Re: [xwiki-users] PLS HELP! wich is the best way to adapt a look and feel made in html, css to velocity?
Hi Caleb, thx for the help!.
I have tried to create a page in xwiki with the raw html, previously i have
copied my css file in
/usr/share/tomcat5.5/webapps/xwiki/skins/myportal/portal/css/estilo.css and
i have all jpgs files in
/usr/share/tomcat5.5/webapps/xwiki/skins/myportal/portal/imgs/
the code of the page is like this:
{{velocity}}
$xwiki.ssfx.use(mades/portal/site/css/estilo.css)
{{/velocity}}
{{html}}
body
!--INICIO CABECERA--
div id=cabecera
div class=logoh1 class=ocultoMADES, Marco de Desarrollo y
Mantenimiento de Aplicaciones/h1/div
div class=logoextremh1 class=ocultoJunta de Extremadura, Consejería
de Sanidad y Dependencia
/h1/div
/div
!--inicio menu--
div id=menuulli # Introducción /lili # Guía Rápida /lili #
Objetivos /lili # Descripción /lili # Noticias /lili # RSS
/li/ul/div
div id=contenido
div id=columleft
div id=imgport
h2MADES (Marco de Desarrollo y Mantenimiento de Aplicaciones)/h2
pes una referencia para los actores implicados en el desarrollo de
aplicaciones software en el ámbito de la Consejería de Sanidad y Dependencia
de la Junta de Extremadura. Ofrece un punto de partida para el uso de
tecnologías probadas bajo directrices que marcan criterios de calidad y
homogeneización en los desarrollos y proponiendo un marco metodológico en la
operativa de los proyectos./p
p class=right # leer más /p
/div
div id=accesosport
div class=cajaacceso1
h3Arquitectura MADES/h3
h4Marco Tecnológico/h4
ul
li # Infraestructura /li
li # Librerías /li
li # Área de entrega /li
li # Criterios de Desarrollo /li
/ul
/div
div class=cajaacceso2
h3Políticas y procedimientos/h3
h4Marco Metodológico/h4
ul
li # Metodología /li
li # Plantillas de documentación /li
li # Material de referencia /li
/ul
/div
/div
/div
div id=columright
div id=zonadescarga
h3Zona de descargas/h3
ul
li class=vin1 # Entorno de Desarrollo /li
li class=vin1 # Plantillas de Documentación /li
li class=vin1 # Manuales /li
li class=vin1 # Ejemplos /li
li class=vin1 # Guía rápida a MADES /li
li class=vin2 # Proyecto Piloto
ulli # Repositorio de Código Fuente /li/ul
/li
li class=vin1 # Bibliografía /li
li class=vin1 # Herramienta de Verificación /li
li class=vin1 # Actualización de reglas /li
/ul
/div
div id=gestionproyecto
h3Gestión de Proyectos/h3
div class=centrar
div class=formulario
form method=post action=#br /
label for=usuario title=usuarioUsuario/label
input id=usuario value=usuario size=12
br/
label for=login title=loginLogin/label
input id=login value=login size=12
input type=submit name=Enviar id=Enviar value=Enviar
class=boton alt=Enviar title= Enviar
br /
/form
/div
/div
/div
/div
/div
!--INICIO PIE PÁGINA--
div id=piep(c) Junta de Extremadura 2009/p/div
/body
{{/html}}
I think that xwiki does not parser div tags? does it?
Do i must to do with tables?
regards!
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Re: [xwiki-users] PLS HELP! wich is the best way to adapt a look and feel made in html, css to velocity?
Hi Caleb, i already have resolved the issue. It was a problem with the paths.
I have changed this
{{velocity}}
$xwiki.ssfx.use(/mades/portal/site/css/estilo.css)
{{/velocity}}
with this
{{velocity}}
$xwiki.ssfx.use(/portal/site/css/estilo.css)
{{/velocity}}
where the skins path is like this:
/usr/share/tomcat5.5/webapps/xwiki/skins/mades/portal/site/css
and
/usr/share/tomcat5.5/webapps/xwiki/skins/mades/portal/site/imgs
thx for the help
Regards!
AlonsoIR wrote:
hi everybody,
i have a problem and less time. Tomorrow i have to release a xwiki portal
with a custom look and feel. Its made with html and css and i dont know
nothing at all about velocity.
In your opinion, which is the best strategy to confront the problem.
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Re: [xwiki-users] Drop Down Menus only work for Admin Users
We had this problem with 2.0.x, but we just upgraded to 2.1 and its happening there as well. A slight correction... the More Actions and Export menu's are working for a Regular user. But the Edit menu does not show a drop down... just the main Edit link. Maybe that's normal? As an Admin user, the Edit menu allows me to choose between Wiki, WYSIWIG, Inline Form, etc. Ideally, I'd like to be able to control which of these items are available to which user. For example, I want them to be able to choose between Wiki and WYSIWIG, but I don't want them to be able to edit Page Access Rights. Thanks! AW Jean-Vincent Drean-3 wrote: Hi, Which XE version are you using ? Drop down at the top are not displayed to unregister users (guests), for normal users entries are displayed according to user's rights but they should at least have the watch entries. Can you use firefox and firebug and see if there's any JS error reported ? Thanks, JV. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:45 PM, AW andrew.wayc...@slimsoft.com wrote: Hi There, For some reason, the drop down menus at the top of the screen only work for Admin users. I suspect we have changed the access rights somewhere we shouldn't have, but I can't figure out where. Can someone help point me in the right direction? Thanks! AW -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Drop-Down-Menus-only-work-for-Admin-Users-tp4170225p4170225.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Drop-Down-Menus-only-work-for-Admin-Users-tp4170225p4170510.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Drop Down Menus only work for Admin Users
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Re: [xwiki-users] Drop Down Menus only work for Admin Users
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Hi, On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We should replace the Choose Editor panel by using the Action Menu also in Edit Mode. Please comment on this and select your favorite variant: A, B, C, D, E http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuEditImprovements#HEditImprovementsProposals I Like D :) - Asiri Thanks, Caty ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Governance for xwiki.org
Hi Vincent, It sounds pretty good to me. There are a few items we need to make sure we implement right (making it clear what's commercial and what's open on xwiki.org, the 'rules' for getting the offer listed, etc), but those are matters of the actual implementation and not the idea itself. On 12/04/2009 04:44 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: Hi everyone (devs and users), While we have a clear governance for write access to our source repository (http://dev.xwiki.org), we're missing a clear governance for xwiki.org. The idea is to address mainly the following 2 questions: 1) who owns it and thus controls (or rather provides direction for) its content 2) can it be used for business advertising (support, paid packages, consulting services) Bit of History about XWiki SAS - XWiki SAS (http://xwiki.com) is the company founded by Ludovic Dubost the creator of XWiki (I'm the CTO of XWiki SAS in addition to being a committer here). - Most of the active contributors are also employed and paid by XWiki SAS to develop the XWiki software. Today that's -- 12.5 committers (developers) -- 1 open source product manager (see http://markmail.org/thread/ggaaw4u6yyci4oan for its definition) -- 1 designer -- 1 tester/technical writer - XWiki SAS sells services around the open source software, see http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Services/ - XWiki SAS truly believes and understands open source, see http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/About/Values -- I also wrote a blog post on this some time back: http://massol.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/XWikiSASAndOpenSource - XWiki SAS has promised not to do evil ;), see its manifesto at http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/About/Manifesto - XWiki SAS is paying for the servers and maintenance of xwiki.org, myxwiki.org, the maven repo, the svn repo, the hudson build serversn the free JUG farm, and more Issue at hand === XWiki SAS would like to generate more revenue to be able to increase the development pace of the XWiki software. We'd like to fund even more the development of XWiki, so that it becomes an even better product. We've asked you what you'd like to see in the future in XWiki and you've answered on this survey result: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/Features+Survey+Results We'd like to implement those features as fast as possible. For this we need to ensure that users interested in commercial services find easily the way to http://xwiki.com, even when they arrive on xwiki.org. This is true for XWiki SAS's services but also for any company willing to offer services around the XWiki open source project. There's no magic. Developers need to be paid when they work full time on some project. We need a commercial ecosystem around XWiki for it to progress as quickly as its competitors (the collaboration market). We need to allow for commercial companies the ability to generate revenue from their work on the XWiki open source project. However we also want to continue ensuring that all the XWiki development is done in open source, under a LGPL license. Governance Proposal = 1) xwiki.org is controlled by the XWiki committers. This means that important changes brought to it should be discussed/vote on the list, using the same practices as for code commits 2) xwiki.org stays open in edit mode to all external contributors (and XWiki committers continue to monitor it to remove spam, etc) 3) we agree to start with 3 zones where companies can advertise their commercial offers on top of the XWiki open source product: -- On the download page (for business packages, subscriptions, hosting) -- On the support page (for services: support, consulting) -- (still to be defined) Possibly on a Products tab in the new horizontal navigation. The idea would be to do as jboss.org is doing. Projects are open source and community and Products are commercial 4) the company offerings are listed by their amount of contributions to the XWiki open source project. The company that contributes most (XWiki SAS today) gets the best spots (top of the list, bigger space) 5) Companies who want to be listed should provide some proof of their contributions to the XWiki open source project 6) XWiki SAS gets some acknowledgment for paying for the xwiki.org server/maintenance of it. Probably somewhere in the footer of the site or on side panel somewhere I think this could be optional as it is included in the support XWiki SAS offers for XWiki.org and therefore 'rewarded' through the advertising space. 7) xwiki.org should always remain a site for the xwiki open source community Conclusion = We want to stress that this proposal is not about XWiki SAS making a commercial takeover of the xwiki.org site. It's about recognizing that if the XWiki open source software progresses quickly today, it's thanks to contributors but also for a very large proportion to
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Hi. I am evaluating XWiki's LDAP-based authentication capabilities. The intention is to have a locked-locked-light wiki instance for my group in a large AD-based corporate environment. The LDAP documentation in xwiki.cfg clarifies how to map LDAP groups to XWiki groups. However, for ease of ACL administration, I would like to treat only users belonging to xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping as registered users and the rest of the users within the corporation as Guests. Is there any way of achieving this mapping? Presently, I have setup LDAP config to authenticate any user within the corporation using xwiki.authentication.ldap.user_group=cn=workers,ou=etc.etc. This causes every user to be treated as a registered user (after successful authentication of course). The only work around I can see is to have an AD group (say X) that contains all the mapped groups specified in xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping, but that requires X to be updated in sync with changes made to xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping. If I can avoid the need for setting and maintaining X, that would be nice. Thanks, Milind ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Governance for xwiki.org
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 15:44, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi everyone (devs and users), While we have a clear governance for write access to our source repository (http://dev.xwiki.org), we're missing a clear governance for xwiki.org. The idea is to address mainly the following 2 questions: 1) who owns it and thus controls (or rather provides direction for) its content 2) can it be used for business advertising (support, paid packages, consulting services) Bit of History about XWiki SAS - XWiki SAS (http://xwiki.com) is the company founded by Ludovic Dubost the creator of XWiki (I'm the CTO of XWiki SAS in addition to being a committer here). - Most of the active contributors are also employed and paid by XWiki SAS to develop the XWiki software. Today that's -- 12.5 committers (developers) -- 1 open source product manager (see http://markmail.org/thread/ggaaw4u6yyci4oan for its definition) -- 1 designer -- 1 tester/technical writer - XWiki SAS sells services around the open source software, see http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Services/ - XWiki SAS truly believes and understands open source, see http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/About/Values -- I also wrote a blog post on this some time back: http://massol.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/XWikiSASAndOpenSource - XWiki SAS has promised not to do evil ;), see its manifesto at http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/About/Manifesto - XWiki SAS is paying for the servers and maintenance of xwiki.org, myxwiki.org, the maven repo, the svn repo, the hudson build serversn the free JUG farm, and more Issue at hand === XWiki SAS would like to generate more revenue to be able to increase the development pace of the XWiki software. We'd like to fund even more the development of XWiki, so that it becomes an even better product. We've asked you what you'd like to see in the future in XWiki and you've answered on this survey result: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/Features+Survey+Results We'd like to implement those features as fast as possible. For this we need to ensure that users interested in commercial services find easily the way to http://xwiki.com, even when they arrive on xwiki.org. This is true for XWiki SAS's services but also for any company willing to offer services around the XWiki open source project. There's no magic. Developers need to be paid when they work full time on some project. We need a commercial ecosystem around XWiki for it to progress as quickly as its competitors (the collaboration market). We need to allow for commercial companies the ability to generate revenue from their work on the XWiki open source project. However we also want to continue ensuring that all the XWiki development is done in open source, under a LGPL license. Governance Proposal = 1) xwiki.org is controlled by the XWiki committers. This means that important changes brought to it should be discussed/vote on the list, using the same practices as for code commits 2) xwiki.org stays open in edit mode to all external contributors (and XWiki committers continue to monitor it to remove spam, etc) 3) we agree to start with 3 zones where companies can advertise their commercial offers on top of the XWiki open source product: -- On the download page (for business packages, subscriptions, hosting) -- On the support page (for services: support, consulting) -- (still to be defined) Possibly on a Products tab in the new horizontal navigation. The idea would be to do as jboss.org is doing. Projects are open source and community and Products are commercial 4) the company offerings are listed by their amount of contributions to the XWiki open source project. The company that contributes most (XWiki SAS today) gets the best spots (top of the list, bigger space) 5) Companies who want to be listed should provide some proof of their contributions to the XWiki open source project 6) XWiki SAS gets some acknowledgment for paying for the xwiki.org server/maintenance of it. Probably somewhere in the footer of the site or on side panel somewhere It's maybe already part of 4), depends how we value this contribution. 7) xwiki.org should always remain a site for the xwiki open source community Conclusion = We want to stress that this proposal is not about XWiki SAS making a commercial takeover of the xwiki.org site. It's about recognizing that if the XWiki open source software progresses quickly today, it's thanks to contributors but also for a very large proportion to companies paying developers to work on it, either directly (like XWiki SAS or other companies that have developers contributing) or indirectly (by paying for example XWiki SAS or other companies to work on specific features). It's also about recognizing that XWiki SAS is happy to see other companies willing to contribute to the progress of the
Re: [xwiki-users] Limitng registered users list to Ldap (Active Directory) groups mapped to XWiki groups
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 20:36, Milind Kamble mbk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi. I am evaluating XWiki's LDAP-based authentication capabilities. The intention is to have a locked-locked-light wiki instance for my group in a large AD-based corporate environment. The LDAP documentation in xwiki.cfg clarifies how to map LDAP groups to XWiki groups. However, for ease of ACL administration, I would like to treat only users belonging to xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping as registered users and the rest of the users within the corporation as Guests. Is there any way of achieving this mapping? Presently, I have setup LDAP config to authenticate any user within the corporation using xwiki.authentication.ldap.user_group=cn=workers,ou=etc.etc. This causes every user to be treated as a registered user (after successful authentication of course). The only work around I can see is to have an AD group (say X) that contains all the mapped groups specified in xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping, but that requires X to be updated in sync with changes made to xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping. If I can avoid the need for setting and maintaining X, that would be nice. Currently there is no other way i can think of, see http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2518 Note that generally in LDAP you can put groups into groups so you only need to put the groups you have in group_mapping in your LDAP X group so that maintain it should not be to painful. The good thing is that it's very clear in your LDAP who has the right to access to the wiki and you can exceptionally add a user that is not part of the mapping groups which is more complex to support at XWiki level. Thanks, Milind ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Limitng registered users list to Ldap (Active Directory) groups mapped to XWiki groups
Thanks for you prompt reply Thomas. I really appreciate that. The issue XWIKI-2518 that you pointed out was exactly the solution I was thinking of. Meanwhile, I think that setting up the super group X should satisfy our needs. Just curiously, why is it difficult to define xwiki group consisting of subgroups and individuals? I thought that is already the way it works. Thanks Milind - Original Message From: Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.com To: XWiki Users users@xwiki.org Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 2:29:53 PM Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Limitng registered users list to Ldap (Active Directory) groups mapped to XWiki groups On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 20:36, Milind Kamble wrote: Hi. I am evaluating XWiki's LDAP-based authentication capabilities. The intention is to have a locked-locked-light wiki instance for my group in a large AD-based corporate environment. The LDAP documentation in xwiki.cfg clarifies how to map LDAP groups to XWiki groups. However, for ease of ACL administration, I would like to treat only users belonging to xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping as registered users and the rest of the users within the corporation as Guests. Is there any way of achieving this mapping? Presently, I have setup LDAP config to authenticate any user within the corporation using xwiki.authentication.ldap.user_group=cn=workers,ou=etc.etc. This causes every user to be treated as a registered user (after successful authentication of course). The only work around I can see is to have an AD group (say X) that contains all the mapped groups specified in xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping, but that requires X to be updated in sync with changes made to xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping. If I can avoid the need for setting and maintaining X, that would be nice. Currently there is no other way i can think of, see http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2518 Note that generally in LDAP you can put groups into groups so you only need to put the groups you have in group_mapping in your LDAP X group so that maintain it should not be to painful. The good thing is that it's very clear in your LDAP who has the right to access to the wiki and you can exceptionally add a user that is not part of the mapping groups which is more complex to support at XWiki level. Thanks, Milind ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Limitng registered users list to Ldap (Active Directory) groups mapped to XWiki groups
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 21:57, Milind Kamble mbk...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for you prompt reply Thomas. I really appreciate that. The issue XWIKI-2518 that you pointed out was exactly the solution I was thinking of. Meanwhile, I think that setting up the super group X should satisfy our needs. Just curiously, why is it difficult to define xwiki group consisting of subgroups and individuals? I thought that is already the way it works. It's not technically very difficult, I just mean it make the configuration more complex. You have to mix LDAP users and groups in the same list in the configuration which is not very good for performance since you have to do a LDAP query for each element to know if its a user or a group or you need to introduce another parameter in LDAP configuration (which already contains a lot) just for the list of users. It's nicer to handle it directly in LDAP because it's already supported in there and it mean you only have to go to LDAP to set authorizations for all applications, no need to change XWiki configuration (plus modify xwiki.cfg file mean restart XWiki). Thanks Milind - Original Message From: Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.com To: XWiki Users users@xwiki.org Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 2:29:53 PM Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Limitng registered users list to Ldap (Active Directory) groups mapped to XWiki groups On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 20:36, Milind Kamble wrote: Hi. I am evaluating XWiki's LDAP-based authentication capabilities. The intention is to have a locked-locked-light wiki instance for my group in a large AD-based corporate environment. The LDAP documentation in xwiki.cfg clarifies how to map LDAP groups to XWiki groups. However, for ease of ACL administration, I would like to treat only users belonging to xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping as registered users and the rest of the users within the corporation as Guests. Is there any way of achieving this mapping? Presently, I have setup LDAP config to authenticate any user within the corporation using xwiki.authentication.ldap.user_group=cn=workers,ou=etc.etc. This causes every user to be treated as a registered user (after successful authentication of course). The only work around I can see is to have an AD group (say X) that contains all the mapped groups specified in xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping, but that requires X to be updated in sync with changes made to xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping. If I can avoid the need for setting and maintaining X, that would be nice. Currently there is no other way i can think of, see http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2518 Note that generally in LDAP you can put groups into groups so you only need to put the groups you have in group_mapping in your LDAP X group so that maintain it should not be to painful. The good thing is that it's very clear in your LDAP who has the right to access to the wiki and you can exceptionally add a user that is not part of the mapping groups which is more complex to support at XWiki level. Thanks, Milind ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Governance for xwiki.org
Hi Pascal, On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Pascal Voitot pascal.voitot@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I don't know if pascal is me or someone else but I'm also one Pascal so I answer ;) Yes, I meant you :-) Sorry for the long mail... Thanks for the detailed feedback! I agree with this kind of governance as long as XWiki.org keeps fully free and brings the best and latest code with LGPL license. I agree that companies contributing to XWiki could be rewarded by having some visibility on xwiki.org site. I agree with the fact that XWiki SAS needs to earn more money based on XWiki.org because if it earns more money, XWiki will go further etc... The limit between commercial product and free software is not easy to define and to manage... Being an opensource company is really hard, isn't it? The only thing I want XWiki SAS is to keep going as a real opensource company for which the community project is the base of everything and which contains the best of breed of XWiki SAS knowledge. I would be disappointed to see you becoming a company such as the ones I can see for which opensource is just a facade or a marketting argument without any real community development and support. Jboss is not exactly one of those but they give me the impression of going progressively in this direction and after one year working intensively with their professional projects and support, I'm really disappointed because I see that their opensource and community support seems declining or even seems willingly bad sometimes and focused on only some visible projects. I really wonder if opensoure is not getting corrupted by such companies after all... With XWiki, I've been able to develop some little professional projects with the best code coming from XWiki without thinking that, if my project could make or not money, I would have to pay, in any case, the X thousands $ just for the license. My idea was to contribute to XWiki through these projects and if I could earn some money I would contribute to XWiki with something more than my little braincells :)... Sorry about that but the projects I have achieved with XWiki have never gone further than pilots and I have never been able to make a living with that :)... What a shame, isn't it?;) All of that just to explain that the fully open status of XWiki allowed me to bring my ideas into reality and I think your professional but free status is a great attractor for lots of people. So as long as you keep that in mind and in facts, I will keep supporting you and maybe more... I understand your concern. I've been reading quite a number of online discussions about JBoss and the questions people have about its business model and the fact that they're afraid that at one point it will no longer be Open-Source. I think I can speak on behalf of XWiki SAS when I say that we believe in Open-Source and want to stay a real Open-Source company - however complex it might be at times. My personal take is that, as long that we as a company promise that all the XWiki code written by XWiki SAS will be released under the LGPL license, the project can thrive with people confident that they're contributing to real Open-Source. Ludovic has personnally committed himself to this in the past as XWiki SAS' founder and this is a policy that will continue in the future. We've been talking about this internally and the overwhelming majority of XWiki SAS employees wants the XWiki code we write to be made available under the LGPL license. I hope this answers your concerns :-) Apart from this, are there other questions and/or things that may sound worrying to you? Thanks again for the feedback - and I hope that some of your XWiki-based commercial initiatives will eventually become fruitful :-) Guillaume Pascal On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Guillaume Lerouge guilla...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi, On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi everyone (devs and users), While we have a clear governance for write access to our source repository (http://dev.xwiki.org), we're missing a clear governance for xwiki.org. The idea is to address mainly the following 2 questions: 1) who owns it and thus controls (or rather provides direction for) its content 2) can it be used for business advertising (support, paid packages, consulting services) Bit of History about XWiki SAS - XWiki SAS (http://xwiki.com) is the company founded by Ludovic Dubost the creator of XWiki (I'm the CTO of XWiki SAS in addition to being a committer here). - Most of the active contributors are also employed and paid by XWiki SAS to develop the XWiki software. Today that's -- 12.5 committers (developers) -- 1 open source product manager (see http://markmail.org/thread/ggaaw4u6yyci4oan for its definition) -- 1 designer -- 1 tester/technical writer - XWiki SAS sells
Re: [xwiki-users] Drop Down Menus only work for Admin Users
Ideally, I'd like to be able to control which of these items are available to which user. For example, I want them to be able to choose between Wiki and WYSIWIG, but I don't want them to be able to edit Page Access Rights. Right now you'd need to edit a .vm file to achieve this. Thanks for the help!!! Can you point me me to what .vm file needs to be edited? Or perhaps a doc that describes the basics of this? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Drop-Down-Menus-only-work-for-Admin-Users-tp4170225p4173503.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Drop Down Menus only work for Admin Users
AW wrote: Ideally, I'd like to be able to control which of these items are available to which user. For example, I want them to be able to choose between Wiki and WYSIWIG, but I don't want them to be able to edit Page Access Rights. Right now you'd need to edit a .vm file to achieve this. Thanks for the help!!! Can you point me me to what .vm file needs to be edited? Or perhaps a doc that describes the basics of this? See templates/menuview.vm (for toucan skin) or skins/colibri/contentmenu.vm Hope this helps, Marius ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
