[xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
hi，all I want request for a wiki service on this farm. brief description: I want set a web site for school alumni for talking together and info sharing. myxwiki.org user name: WenjieSHI server name: CLGO Steven SHI 13816059596 上海交通大学安泰经济与管理学院 ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
Hi Michael, Your wiki is now available at http://chgemeinden.myxwiki.org/ You log in using the user name you registered on myxwiki.org Enjoy it and please report here any issue or anything not working. Improvement ideas are also very welcome. Thanks -Vincent on behalf of the xwiki community On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Michael Bützer wrote: Hey there We are interested in having a wiki hosted on this farm. The Association of Swiss Communes (www.chgemeinden.ch in German oder French) is a small non-for profit organization that defends the Swiss Communes interests at the federal governmental level in Switzerland. The Associations' executive office would like to add this Wiki for internal use in order to enhance our internal commnication and mutual exchange of information. We already registered on myxwiki.org with the user chgemeinden and would like to use the server name chgemeinden.myxwiki.org to access the wiki. Thanks in advance to the community Admins to create it for us! Best regards, Michael Bützer ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
Hi Steven, Your wiki is now available at http://clgo.myxwiki.org/ You log in using the user name you registered on myxwiki.org Enjoy it and please report here any issue or anything not working. Improvement ideas are also very welcome. Thanks -Vincent on behalf of the xwiki community On Jan 27, 2011, at 9:23 AM, 史文杰 wrote: hi，all I want request for a wiki service on this farm. brief description: I want set a web site for school alumni for talking together and info sharing. myxwiki.org user name: WenjieSHI server name: CLGO Steven SHI ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
hi, Vincent TKS Regards 史文杰 Steven SHI 13816059596 CLFM 08 上海交通大学安泰经济与管理学院 From: vinc...@massol.net Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:37:34 +0100 To: users@xwiki.org Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request Hi Steven, Your wiki is now available at http://clgo.myxwiki.org/ You log in using the user name you registered on myxwiki.org Enjoy it and please report here any issue or anything not working. Improvement ideas are also very welcome. Thanks -Vincent on behalf of the xwiki community On Jan 27, 2011, at 9:23 AM, 史文杰 wrote: hi，all I want request for a wiki service on this farm. brief description: I want set a web site for school alumni for talking together and info sharing. myxwiki.org user name: WenjieSHI server name: CLGO Steven SHI ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
Hi Vincent, I want set a web site about home Automation and info sharing. With best regards Paul Jung On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 08:19, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Paul, Can you explain what you intend to do with this wiki? We need a description. Thanks -Vincent On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Paul Jung wrote: Please create a xwiki account for me. User name: ulju With best regards Paul Jung ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [Discussion] Application Within Minutes Investigation
Hi, I layed down some of my investigations on Application Within Minutes features voted for 3.0. Can you give me your feedback on current specs. All features that I could think of are there. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Roadmap/ApplicationWithinMinutes Thanks -- Thibaut ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] State of the XWiki Community
Hi Sergiu/everyone, See below. On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hi Community, The following message expresses my personal opinions as a member of the community, so it might not be entirely accurate. The goal is to start a discussion about how can we attract more contributors and committers to the XWiki open source project, and will address three main subjects: - the current state of the community and committers - the possibility of joining or creating a non-profit foundation to govern XWiki - the possibility of using Fundry as a way for users to fund XWiki development - Status of the community At the start of a new year, it's time to look a bit at the status of XWiki, the project and the community. XWiki was created by Ludovic Dubost as an open source project from the start. Later, he founded a commercial company (XWiki SAS, back then XPertNet SaRL) as a way to financially support the development of the product. It kept the project entirely open, unlike the many false open source companies that only offer a basic open source version, forcing people to buy the commercial one (the open core model), or that only release the source code while still doing behind-the-curtains development, or that almost completely ignore the outside community. See the XWiki SAS values: http://purl.org/xwiki/sas-values and manifesto: http://purl.org/xwiki/sas-manifesto The committers, elected for their merit, and not made automatically as employees of the company, always tried to maintain a healthy community and attract new contributors/committers. Thus, the XWiki software is developed not by the XWiki SAS company, but by the XWiki community. http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/ has a lot of information about the community, and the development process. As of January 2011, there are 16 core committers, 12 of which are XWiki SAS employees, and 3 are or were related to XWiki SAS one way or another. http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/HallOfFame#HCoreCommitters I've just updated this page and added an Affiliation column for increased transparency: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/HallOfFame A big part of the development is aided by non-committer members of the community, either by providing patches, testing and reporting bugs, requesting new features, providing feedback, answering on the mailing lists, etc. As committers, we tried to listen to the community when developing the project, but as paid employees we have to also listen to the company requirements. With a limited manpower it's very hard to evolve as fast as the community would want, or in all the directions that the community wants. And we welcome any help here. The project is healthy, we have regular and frequent releases, with visible progress with each new release (see Vincent's statistics on http://massol.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Blog/XWikiIn2010 for more details). Still, I'm a little disappointed with the development speed. Lately, out of the 16 committers on average about 3-4 are actually available for platform development during a day. * How can we help speed up the growth of the community? Find a way to sponsor more people? :) IMO the community is growing fast. I think you mean the development team (committership), right? * How can we attract more developers outside XWiki SAS? (Here's below a repost to an internal mail where we were discussing about whether the bar is too high or not to contribute to xwiki's development, with slight modifications) I think we need to separate 2 areas: * core contributions * extension contributions This is the same in all open source project (linux core, vs peripheral things). The level of quality asked is not the same for core contributions vs extension contributions or peripheral domains (non core). I doubt very much that the linux kernel accepts contributions that don't have a very good quality level for example. Same for Firefox or any other Mozilla project. In practice I don't think we can expect people external to XWiki SAS or more generally people not paid to work on XWiki for 2 reasons: 1) there are committers paid to work daily on them and as such they progress much faster than anyone outside could (since those person outside are not paid for that and don't have extensible time - they do it in their free time - it's almost impossible to follow code and discussions). 2) it requires a high quality level I'm always surprised and have a great admiration when people succeed in contributing to core things, like Sergiu in his time, Denis and Caleb. Also I think that most open source project have a very small number of people who are actually core committers (you can count them on one or 2 hands). When you see open source projects with tons of contributors they're actually contributing to peripheral things like: translations, themes, extensions, etc. What
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] Application Within Minutes Investigation
Hi Thibaut, On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote: Hi, I layed down some of my investigations on Application Within Minutes features voted for 3.0. Can you give me your feedback on current specs. All features that I could think of are there. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Roadmap/ApplicationWithinMinutes Would be great if you could move this to the Design space on the dev wiki which is where we put our design pages: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ Thanks -Vincent ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] State of the XWiki Community
Hi Roman, Thanks a lot for your feedback. Lots of good points. It's also good to see that you like the way XWiki is being developed! :) At some point, we should put on a wiki page all the good ideas that emerged from this thread. Thanks -Vincent On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:15 PM, coldserenity wrote: Hi Sergiu, Thanks for the interesting story :) * How can we help speed up the growth of the community? Continue doing this brilliant work you do. And ... * How can we attract more developers outside XWiki SAS? ... here's a list of some ideas (might contain crazy ones) * First thing is to bring more users (see http://www.google.com/trends?q=xwiki%2C+foswiki%2C+twiki%2C+confluence ) among which new developers shall emerge * At many points XWiki is more powerful than Confluence, outline them * You have to populate the knowledge about XWiki to the Community * If you want to attract developers, advertize among developers * Advertize with features developers and development teams like * Probably advertize XWiki (sourceforge, apache, codehaus) through ads * Try to convince Apache (or at least projects within Apache you have close relations with), Codehaus etc. to host it's numerous docs on XWiki * XWiki functionality as a document storage is more than sufficient. Build more applications on top of it (e.g. agile tools, project management tools) to attract more users. (another e.g. we try to use XWiki for storing all the knowledge about our project, including meetings, user stories etc. It would be nice to bring in some agile features like meeting minutes, product backlog, integration with Jira) * Ability to build applications on top of XWiki is its main advantage you have to extend and advertise to a wide community. * If I owned a software development company I'd send my developers/managers/architects for internship on XWiki for 3-6 iteration cycles to learn all that cool things you do. Maybe I'm not the only one? Some concerns * Main XWiki competitor is Confluence * Unfortunately for XWiki, when one buys Jira - he's likely to buy Confluence * Now is the moment, of truth, XWiki either becomes popular, or vanishes in the fight with Confluence (which might start or already started receiving features from XWiki) * I really hope that XWiki.org will survive not to be either bought by or turn into a commercial company (like Compass and EHCache were somewhere in the past). It so demotivating for the open-source committer that someone has used his hard and volunteer work to get richer. Some major points from the story below * SearchEngineOptimization matters (http://www.google.com.ua/search?q=wiki+engine) * Project Homepage UI matters * Project UI matters (and currently its good, keep an eye on it ;) ) * Ease of installation matters * Ease of configuration / Hot configuration (ability to change smth without restarting the server) matters. And currently its the way you go (plugin management module) * Modularity / Extensibility (with numerous plug-ins) matter * Community (those who are able to support you) matter * Documentation / Tutorials matter (thanks for the numerous docs on how to setup and tune XWiki) * How easy you input your information matters (WYSIWYG + Document import rock!) * Healthy development process matters * Being heard by the community is nice * Frequent feature-fruitful releases are nice THE STORY BELOW Now I will tell you my story of getting addicted to XWiki. We required a wiki for our project and from all of the available choices we initially took FOS Wiki. However having an experience with Attassian Confluence, I neither liked the UI nor syntax. Being a Java developer (Tomcat/JBoss) I as well hated complex installation of that wiki itself as well as plug-ins for it. The structure of that wiki was hard to understand. Funny to mention but most of all I hated how it formats the Java code :) Soon after we started using FOS Wiki, having that heavy feeling of something isn't right I did a quick final random poke for other open-source frameworks (preferably Java, where I could develop the feature I miss or patch the bug I find). I must say that XWiki was far not the first one I found but ... I was conquered with sweet-as-a-candy design of XWiki site (Toucan Skin at that moment). So I quickly downloaded the installer, set it up on my local machine and started getting more and more astonished with the nice features XWiki provided. Just to name few * It had more logical (or at least more obvious) organization of documents * Eye-pleasing UI * Easy installation * A ton of plugins and extension * All was configurable and in many cases even from UI without the need to restart the server Hell, I was even capable to hack (patch) the code colorer library to use styles I wanted (later was added as config parameter)! * The syntax 2.0 was nice (again, thanks for the recent emoticons feature :) ) and the code
[xwiki-users] Using brackets in Pagename
Hello all, I created a new page within a space, and named it page 1. Now, when I create a child from page 1 it shows the correct breadrumb navigation in edit mode, but as soon as i save it, it calls the parent page, instead of page 1. Can it be that I am not allowed to use in the page name? Anyone had this problem? I can still rename the page ofcourse and hope all is well, but I would like to keep it as is. Thanks in advance, -wouter ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] Application Within Minutes Investigation
Done, thanks. -- Thibaut On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Thibaut, On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote: Hi, I layed down some of my investigations on Application Within Minutes features voted for 3.0. Can you give me your feedback on current specs. All features that I could think of are there. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Roadmap/ApplicationWithinMinutes Would be great if you could move this to the Design space on the dev wiki which is where we put our design pages: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ Thanks -Vincent ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Paul, Please provide all the information as requested on http://myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ (you did not provide us with a name for the wiki, to be used as subdomain) Jerome. Thanks -Vincent On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Paul Jung wrote: Hi Vincent, I want set a web site about home Automation and info sharing. With best regards Paul Jung On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 08:19, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Paul, Can you explain what you intend to do with this wiki? We need a description. Thanks -Vincent On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Paul Jung wrote: Please create a xwiki account for me. User name: ulju With best regards Paul Jung ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] State of the XWiki Community
This is a interesting conversation. I have been thinking recently about what motivates people to contribute to free software projects. What I have come up with is this: 1. They need it to do _that_. 2. If they contribute code then their contribution will be maintained with the trunk (perhaps even improved), if they try to maintain a patch set in-house, they will be forced to make changes to it each time a new version comes out. IMO this is a big motivator for people to clean up their code and meet project standards. On 01/27/2011 08:46 AM, Vincent Massol wrote: Hi Sergiu/everyone, See below. On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hi Community, The following message expresses my personal opinions as a member of the community, so it might not be entirely accurate. The goal is to start a discussion about how can we attract more contributors and committers to the XWiki open source project, and will address three main subjects: - the current state of the community and committers - the possibility of joining or creating a non-profit foundation to govern XWiki - the possibility of using Fundry as a way for users to fund XWiki development - Status of the community At the start of a new year, it's time to look a bit at the status of XWiki, the project and the community. XWiki was created by Ludovic Dubost as an open source project from the start. Later, he founded a commercial company (XWiki SAS, back then XPertNet SaRL) as a way to financially support the development of the product. It kept the project entirely open, unlike the many false open source companies that only offer a basic open source version, forcing people to buy the commercial one (the open core model), or that only release the source code while still doing behind-the-curtains development, or that almost completely ignore the outside community. See the XWiki SAS values: http://purl.org/xwiki/sas-values and manifesto: http://purl.org/xwiki/sas-manifesto The committers, elected for their merit, and not made automatically as employees of the company, always tried to maintain a healthy community and attract new contributors/committers. Thus, the XWiki software is developed not by the XWiki SAS company, but by the XWiki community. http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/ has a lot of information about the community, and the development process. As of January 2011, there are 16 core committers, 12 of which are XWiki SAS employees, and 3 are or were related to XWiki SAS one way or another. http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/HallOfFame#HCoreCommitters I've just updated this page and added an Affiliation column for increased transparency: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/HallOfFame A big part of the development is aided by non-committer members of the community, either by providing patches, testing and reporting bugs, requesting new features, providing feedback, answering on the mailing lists, etc. As committers, we tried to listen to the community when developing the project, but as paid employees we have to also listen to the company requirements. With a limited manpower it's very hard to evolve as fast as the community would want, or in all the directions that the community wants. And we welcome any help here. The project is healthy, we have regular and frequent releases, with visible progress with each new release (see Vincent's statistics on http://massol.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Blog/XWikiIn2010 for more details). Still, I'm a little disappointed with the development speed. Lately, out of the 16 committers on average about 3-4 are actually available for platform development during a day. * How can we help speed up the growth of the community? Find a way to sponsor more people? :) IMO the community is growing fast. I think you mean the development team (committership), right? * How can we attract more developers outside XWiki SAS? (Here's below a repost to an internal mail where we were discussing about whether the bar is too high or not to contribute to xwiki's development, with slight modifications) I think we need to separate 2 areas: * core contributions * extension contributions This is the same in all open source project (linux core, vs peripheral things). The level of quality asked is not the same for core contributions vs extension contributions or peripheral domains (non core). I doubt very much that the linux kernel accepts contributions that don't have a very good quality level for example. Same for Firefox or any other Mozilla project. My understanding is Linux recklessly breaks old api at the internal/modular level. Given #2 (top), our tiptoeing through deprecation/migration processes may actually harm us by encouraging people to keep their modifications secret. In practice I don't think we can expect people external to XWiki SAS or more generally
[xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
sorry forgot to include would like the url to be: zero.xwiki.org -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Kaiser mjkai...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM Subject: [myxwiki] new wiki request To: users@xwiki.org myxwiki.org username: zkai I would like to use xwiki to create some documentation that I would like to keep track off. Tech support, scripting, etc. In addition, am a CSC major and being that xwiki is written in java I would like to test out the programmability of the wiki, ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
myxwiki.org username: zkai I would like to use xwiki to create some documentation that I would like to keep track off. Tech support, scripting, etc. In addition, am a CSC major and being that xwiki is written in java I would like to test out the programmability of the wiki, ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Using brackets in Pagename
Hello, I followed the steps that you described and I had no issues regarding parent-child relationship: 1. go to space _ Main _ 2. create page named _ page 1 _ 3. create a new page named _ page 2 _ 4. set the parent of _ page 2 _ as being _ page 1 _ 5. save _ page 2 _ The breadcrumbs is the same both in edit and view mode: Welcome to your wiki » page 1 » page 2 . It is definitively allowed to create pages containing double quotes in their names. Raluca. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Wouter de Vos hukab...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, I created a new page within a space, and named it page 1. Now, when I create a child from page 1 it shows the correct breadrumb navigation in edit mode, but as soon as i save it, it calls the parent page, instead of page 1. Can it be that I am not allowed to use in the page name? Anyone had this problem? I can still rename the page ofcourse and hope all is well, but I would like to keep it as is. Thanks in advance, -wouter ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
