Re: [xwiki-users] The confusing name 'WebHome'

2011-04-13 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi,

I had a similar remark from users. This is disturbing for them to read on
the main page of the wiki in a wiki that is not in english Main and
WebHome. I am talking about the Add area. I think we should introduce
the notion of space title that would be used for display instead of space
name. We could use title property of WebHome page of a space. This way,
users could change it easily.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) 
vali...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 19:06, Joris Dirks jo...@user.stekje.nl wrote:

  I just had a user renaming a page called 'Webhome' to something she
  thought was more appropriate. I understood her reasoning for the name
  'intro' but had a hard time explaning why there should be WebHome at
  the end of the URL, especially since it isn't an English wiki. Even
  when users understand the first page has a fixed name, they are more
  accustomed to 'index' (.html, .php).
  Of course, when reaching a space, the name WebHome isn't shown,
  backlinks (e.g. breadcrumbs) do refer to Example/WebHome instead of
  Example/
  The biggest improvement imho would be: hide the trailing 'WebHome'
  when viewing a WebHome. When editing this page, it can of course be
  shown.
 

 'WebHome' appears just in the Wiki/Space/Page separation and this cannot be
 removed since it contains page functions

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2/page.png
 and also reflect the physical URL construction.

 About renaming: the WebHome is indeed a convention. I was thinking about
 other names for it.
 If we would had named it 'Index' or simple 'Home' and appeared like
 xwiki  Main  Home  or
 xwiki  ColorThemes  Home
 it would have been confusing also because usually we have only one main
 home
 and only that should be name 'Home', not every homepage for every space.
 Having put let's say 'Home' and 'SpaceHome' would be an improvement, but
 will be very close to the current behavior: still a convention, still in
 english, still unchangeable.

 The breadcrumb does not display the page name, but the page title. So as
 long as the page has a title there shouldn't be a problem.

 Thanks,
 Caty



 
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Re: [xwiki-users] The confusing name 'WebHome'

2011-04-13 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Just found this one XE-441, also from customer feedback :)

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On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Thibaut Camberlin 
thibaut.camber...@xwiki.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I had a similar remark from users. This is disturbing for them to read on
 the main page of the wiki in a wiki that is not in english Main and
 WebHome. I am talking about the Add area. I think we should introduce
 the notion of space title that would be used for display instead of space
 name. We could use title property of WebHome page of a space. This way,
 users could change it easily.


 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) 
 vali...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 19:06, Joris Dirks jo...@user.stekje.nl wrote:

  I just had a user renaming a page called 'Webhome' to something she
  thought was more appropriate. I understood her reasoning for the name
  'intro' but had a hard time explaning why there should be WebHome at
  the end of the URL, especially since it isn't an English wiki. Even
  when users understand the first page has a fixed name, they are more
  accustomed to 'index' (.html, .php).
  Of course, when reaching a space, the name WebHome isn't shown,
  backlinks (e.g. breadcrumbs) do refer to Example/WebHome instead of
  Example/
  The biggest improvement imho would be: hide the trailing 'WebHome'
  when viewing a WebHome. When editing this page, it can of course be
  shown.
 

 'WebHome' appears just in the Wiki/Space/Page separation and this cannot
 be
 removed since it contains page functions

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2/page.png
 and also reflect the physical URL construction.

 About renaming: the WebHome is indeed a convention. I was thinking about
 other names for it.
 If we would had named it 'Index' or simple 'Home' and appeared like
 xwiki  Main  Home  or
 xwiki  ColorThemes  Home
 it would have been confusing also because usually we have only one main
 home
 and only that should be name 'Home', not every homepage for every space.
 Having put let's say 'Home' and 'SpaceHome' would be an improvement, but
 will be very close to the current behavior: still a convention, still in
 english, still unchangeable.

 The breadcrumb does not display the page name, but the page title. So as
 long as the page has a title there shouldn't be a problem.

 Thanks,
 Caty



 
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[xwiki-users] Translation application ?

2011-04-10 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hello,

I was wondering if someone had a start of an application managing
translations. The need is to have an end-user interface to manage
translations. I put a mockup there to show you what I have in mind :
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/TranslationApplication

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Re: [xwiki-users] Drop mailing lists in favor of a forum software

2011-03-17 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi,

IMO it makes a lot of sense to use a forum solution for users (when it does
not for devs). When I was working with WordPress software, I was reading a
lot forum threads (they are using their other product, bbPress). I wouldn't
have thought about subscribing to a mailing list, I didn't even know they
existed. I was not Open Source minded, so are a lot of people using XWiki
and willing to contribute good feedback. A forum is so much easier to read
(topics, dates, tags, rates) and much less geek.

I am +1 for a forum solution for users.

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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Andreas Hahn ah...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 14.03.2011 09:16, schrieb Vincent Massol:
  On Mar 13, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Andreas Hahn wrote:
 
  Am 10.03.2011 17:39, schrieb Paul Libbrecht:
  Please contradict me!
  Paul,
  actually - how could I do this ?
  I'm not an expert in forum software so I'd to go for the naive approach
  - comparing features e.t.c.
 
  I was hoping for some insight that it is beneficial for the whole
  project to encourage users first to browse and then to participate -
  even if it means  for you and the others around here to give up beloved
  habits.
 
  Anyway - I'm not going to push you guys back to the future of Web 2.0.
 
  Given the lame participation when compared to the survey 4 years ago it
  seems to me that quite some people have already left the boat and it may
  not matter anymore.
  I'm not sure how to read your last 2 paragraphs.
 
  Just note that fro my POV there's no you and me here. There's only a
 global community and you're part of it. That said at some point some people
 are going to need to work to make it happen, this is where the distinction
 will happen. How far are you willing to help? Maybe a first step would be
 that you help find either a forum software that fits the bill or a hosted
 service that would work for us.
 
   From the people who answered so far my feeling is that:
  * people seem to agree in general that at least for users a forum would
 be nicer
  * since xwiki committers provide a substantial amount of answers to the
 user list as of today it would be nice that they can continue to have the
 information coming to me

 For my own FOSS project I'm hoping to start soon - I'll be going with
 http://stackoverflow.com. Providing support means checking the site for
 tagged questions a couple of times a day. It's just one mouse click. For
 me it makes no real difference in getting mails or checking a forum as
 long as you have a one-click list of open topics.

 Gathering all the information about all possible options and criteria
 can get very time consuming so I think we should try to rule out
 something first.

 Forums that are operated by other providers (getsatisfaction,
 stackoverflow, ...) might
 * be discontinued without warning (see jive)
 * change their policy later (no more free forums)
 * not expose user mail addresses and forum content (or might change that
 policy) so you're locked in.
 * not be as flexible as own forums if you want to change something (add
 category, ...)

 OTOH operating an own forum
 * requires admin efforts (must be maintained and updated, backups, ...)
 * may not be as publicly visible as that of other providers (because of
 their advertisements ...)
 * may not be as innovative as special forum operators ('awarding for
 active participants', ...)

 In addition there are concerns valid for both:
 * Is it important to somehow import the existing mail archive ?

 So IMO this is the first decision - is it ok to rely on somebody else ?
 and then decide which one.

 I'd be ok to spend time on it once its clear which way to go.
 However - as for me - nothing will happen fast as beside of my daily
 work I already have a side project so this is kind of
 side-project-side-project.

 Now for getsatisfaction - I don't know anything about it except that
 what can be found on their site.
 They don't seem to offer free accounts for open source. I've also seen
 no indication you can get mail alerts for new contributions.

 So how do we approach this ?

 bye
 Andreas

  My personal POV is indeed that I'd like a forum for both the
 participation part (ie awarding status/points to active participants to
 surface them) and the categorization part but indeed I don't see myself
 going to the forum so it has to come to me. I think this is easy to achieve
 since on forums like getsatisfaction you can subscribe to the whole forum
 and thus receive all posts. What would be even better is if I could post or
 reply by replying to the mail.
 
  Now back to getsatisfaction I think before we could use it we'd need to
 check:
  * are there any limitations for free open source forums? What's their
 position on open source?
  * how can we get all the posts in a neutral and standard format should we
 want to move to another tool later on?
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
 
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[xwiki-users] [Discussion] Application Within Minutes Investigation

2011-01-27 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi,

I layed down some of my investigations on Application Within Minutes
features voted for 3.0.

Can you give me your feedback on current specs. All features that I could
think of are there.

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Roadmap/ApplicationWithinMinutes

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Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] Application Within Minutes Investigation

2011-01-27 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Done, thanks.

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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote:

 Hi Thibaut,

 On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I layed down some of my investigations on Application Within Minutes
  features voted for 3.0.
 
  Can you give me your feedback on current specs. All features that I
 could
  think of are there.
 
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Roadmap/ApplicationWithinMinutes

 Would be great if you could move this to the Design space on the dev wiki
 which is where we put our design pages:
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/

 Thanks
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Re: [xwiki-users] [Investigation] User Statuses

2010-12-14 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi,

Here is how I see this feature within XWiki :

Simple feature :
* not theaded
* for internal use
* only limited length of text is the input (no category, neighboorhood,
etc.)

Also, 2000 caracters is way too much IMO. I would go more for 170 - 200
words. If this is more than that, it should be a page or something else, but
this is not a status anymore.

No need to share the status with a client. What is needed first is page
sharing (edition by the client using a validation key in the URL for eg).

Not integrated to twitter. That is an internal and enterprise oriented
feature.

To ease link publising we could have an autocomplete feature. Just a piece
of JS, not the WYSIWYG. It would suggest links to pages an even attachments.

Concerning Caty's proposal on the incubator:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusScrap
I like the consistency with current activity stream. I also think that
instead of stressing the user or the application that published a status,
actual status should be stressed (put in first position and other texts with
smaller size and fader color)

Thanks
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On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Ricardo Rodriguez [eBioTIC.] 
ricardo.rodrig...@ebiotic.net wrote:



 Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
  On 11/24/2010 04:12 PM, Fabio Mancinelli wrote:
 
  Hi Caty,
 
  a mail to share my vision about the User Status feature.
 
  The main idea is to have a mechanism for users to broadcast messages
  concerning their activities.
  The key use cases for this are:
 
  1) Fast communication between enterprise members which can replace IMs
  and mails with user status
  1.1) Communicate what you are working on
 
 
  Obvious, +1.
 
 
  1.2) Quick question answering and feedback gathering
 
 
  You mean something like:
 
  BigBoss says:
 How do we get through the crisis?
  Jimmy says:
 @BigBoss reduce costs!
  Mike says:
 @BigBoss sell more!
 
  And:
 
  Jimmy says:
 @Timmy where can I get a W80 form?
  Timmy says:
 @Jimmy room 404
 
 
  1.3) Interesting  material dissemination
 
 
  You mean link sharing?
 
 
  2) Focused discussions about a given topic
 
 
  I'm not sure this is the best way to communicate. It might work if it
  behaves a bit like instant messaging, with updates being refreshed in
  real time. Also, for it to make sense as a discussion, it should be
  threaded. So this starts to look like Google Wave, which somehow failed.
  It might work in an intranet, but still it would diverge too much from a
  simple status update, and I'm not sure how it can be integrated nicely
  inside the current Activity UI (nor the implementation, but that's not
  critical).
 
 
  3) Fast communication with external clients to keep them up-to-date
 
 
  I'm not sure I get this. Isn't an *intra*net supposed to be internal,
  inaccessible to external parties?
 
  Do you mean closed group messages, visible only in a given space?
 
 
  In order to realize these use cases we need something that resembles
  to Facebook's Wall or, if we look at more enterprise oriented
  products, to SalesForce chatter (http://www.salesforce.com/chatter)
 
 
  This is getting too far from the initial ideas. It was supposed to be
  integrated in the recent activity, as little user messages mixed among
  wiki activity. Now it looks like the main goal is user communication,
  with wiki activity on the second place. Going the Chatter way would
  imply many changes in the ActivityStream implementation, the
  {{activity}} macro, and the Recent Activity UI.
 
  I'm not saying we shouldn't try to go there, I'm only asking if we want
  to do it as the User Statuses sub-feature inside the Activity feature.
 
 
  In particular:
 
  1) The feature should be implemented as an internal subsystem that
  takes advantage of the Wiki underlying model for exposing information
 
 
  That's always the case.
 
 
  1.1) User status can contain reference to Wiki entities (i.e., page,
  attachments, comments) and external links. As Jerome said in a
  previous email, this is key. An autocompletion mechanism could help
  making this feature more usable.
 
 
  The full wiki syntax might be available, which includes links to
  documents/attachment. If we do that, then should the WYSIWYG be
  displayed as well?
 
 
  1.2) I am not sure that we need to provide an upload mechanism to
  associate an artifact to a user status. Linking an attachment in a
  Wiki page is sufficient in my opinion.
 
 
  +1 for links to existing data only. We could provide a notify this
  checkbox in the edit/upload UI.
 
 
  2) It should be possible to define one or more neighborhoods, i.e.,
  people that will receive our status updates
 
 
  We could have activities for a space, and activities for a group. This
  means that in the group UI we could integrate a say something widget.
 
  Another idea is a panel which allows you to specify where to post the
  update: global (default), current space, specific space (with suggest),
  group of 

Re: [xwiki-users] where put macros?

2010-11-03 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
 On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote:


 On Nov 2, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

  Hi Vincent, all,
 
  See below
 
  On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net
 wrote:
 
  On Nov 2, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote:
 
  On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Jerome Velociter jer...@xwiki.com
 wrote:
 
  Actually I've been thinking maybe we could provide a Macros/ space
  with XE. The home page would be a improved version of the current
  XWiki.WikiMacros page (adding for example a ClassSheet for macros, a
  form to create a new macro, some documentation, etc.)
 
  WDYT?
 
 
  This polishing would empower a standard user to use this XWiki advanced
  feature.
 
  I don't quite agree. Standard users shouldn't see this space. it's
 something technical and 99% of wiki users don't want/need to see it (and
 they won't even understand it). So for me this space would need to be hidden
 from simple users (same as for other tech spaces).
 
  Then we should probably hide them from the WYSIWYG tooIbar too, I guess
 ;)
 
  Seriously, the space could be blacklisted, but it should be discussed,
  I'm not sure we want to have only admins seing it (personally I see
  that space as being documentation on macros existing in the wiki
  before being a place to create new macros - so not so technical in
  the end).

 The reason is simple. Most people come to the wiki as a place where to find
 information (not as contributors) and they'll see the list of spaces listed
 on the home page mixed with spaces containing real content for that wiki.
 All I want is a separation between business content and technical content.
 I'm fine if we have 2 space lists on the home page, one for each type of
 content. But I really don't like to mix the two kind of content.


+1 for space separation, based on the user type (Advanced/Standard). It is
very disturbing to have technical spaces mixed with content/business spaces.



  Maybe in some distant future we should have an intermediary level
  between Normal users and Admins. BTW do users that chose to be
  Advanced Users in their profile see the blacklisted spaces ?

 yes.

  Maybe
  the intermediary level could be this one.

 I don't think we need one ATM.

  I'm not sure what the proposal is about exactly.
 
  Well it's not a proposal yet, rather an idea.
 
  Some open questions: Would the macros stay where they are currently
 located?
 
  If you ask me some should be moved already (like {{spaces}} and
  {{tags}}), since they are located in documents that already have
  another purpose, and thus can not benefit from a potential
  WikiMacroClassSheet (that for example could display the usage of the
  macro and its parameters ; thus becoming a sort of self-contained
  documentation for the held macro)

 Well I'm not sure. IMO the dashboard should be moved to a dashboard
 application and that spaces macro could be moved to that dashboard
 application.
 Recent Activity should be moved to an Activity application too and the
 activity macro there too.

 Basically I still believe strongly that we need to list all our default XE
 pages and assign them an application. I had done that exercise one and
 created the jira components in XE asa result. Maybe we should revisit this
 and do this mapping now?

  Shouldn't macros stay with their apps?
 
  Yes they should.
  Right now we don't even have a rule for where to put applications
  documents (in their own space ? with a Code suffix ? in the XWiki
  space ? somewhere else ?)

 Yes we need to define that too. We've been quite poor in term of wiki
 content organization and as a result I feel that our default wiki content is
 a bit of a disorganized mess. We should improve. Want to lead a proposal?


Yes, we miss conventions on the naming. Moreover, AFAIR something is not
coherent between class wizard and livetable macro : The livetable macro
displays the template document because its name which is given by the class
wizard is not matching the one the livetable macro is expecting (and that
would be excluded).



  I think the (not existing) UI at Macros.WebHome should retrieve and
  list documents from the entire wiki, not just the Macros space.

 I agree

  Same
  as the scheduler (I changed that behavior just recently by the way - I
  wanted my application scheduler jobs in my application space, not in
  the Scheduler space - see http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XASCH-56)

 Yep seen that and I agree.

  Does it mean a new platform/application in svn?
 
  There is already one : the wikibridge I think, with just one
  document now (the name is not correct though, I agree)

 Agree, it's a good place and it should be renamed or merged with another
 app, all depending if we find that there are macros that don't belong to any
 specific app.


I guess there are generic macros that don't belong to a specific app.



  What macros go there? When do we use wiki macros vs java macros (we

Re: [xwiki-users] Livetable does not show results

2010-10-22 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi Gerritjan,

I tested on Panels.PanelClass on a 2.5 M2 and it works fine.

Can you test this code (generated by the script)

{{velocity}}
#set($columns = [ doc.title  ,name  ,type  ,description  ,content
,category ])
#set($columnsProperties = { name : { type : text, link :
view, size : 10, filterable : true, sortable: true }, type
: { type : list, link : view, size : 10, filterable : true,
sortable: true }, description : { type : text, link :
view, size : 10, filterable : true, sortable: true },
content : { type : text, link : view, size : 10, filterable :
true, sortable: true }, category : { type : list, link :
view, size : 10, filterable : true, sortable: true },
_avatar : { type : none, link : none, html : true,
sortable:false },   _images : { type : none, link : none,
html : true, sortable:false },   _attachments : { type :
none, link : none, html : true, sortable:false },
_actions : { type : none, link : none, html : true,
sortable:false },doc.name : { type : text, link : view,
size : 10, filterable : true, sortable: true },   doc.space :
{ type : text, link : view, size : 10, filterable : true,
sortable: true },   doc.fullName : { type : text, link :
view, size : 10, filterable : true, sortable: true },
doc.author : { type : text, link : view, size : 10,
filterable : true, sortable: true },   doc.date : { type :
text, link : view, size : 10, filterable : true, sortable:
true },   doc.creator : { type : text, link : view, size :
10, filterable : true, sortable: true },   doc.creationDate : {
type : text, link : view, size : 10, filterable : true,
sortable: true },   doc.title : { type : text, link : view,
size : 20, filterable : true, sortable: true } })

#set($options = { className:Panels.PanelClass, translationPrefix :
panel.livetable., tagCloud : true, rowCount: 15, maxPages : 10,
selectedColumn : doc.title, defaultOrder : asc })

#livetable(panel $columns $columnsProperties $options)
{{/velocity}}


You may have to hit ctrl + F5 to refresh the livetable.

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek 
gerritjankoekk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I only have 2.5, deinstalled the old version
 In my situation It looks like it is only working on classes where the
 classes sit in the XWiki space and the documents holding the objects are in
 the same space?
 So it works with users, but not with panels.panelclass (or my own custom
 developed class). It does work brilliantly with tag-class Even get unexected
 goodies

 I do not think it's the generator script, but something with livetable?

 Gerritjan

 Op 20 okt 2010, om 01:05 heeft [Ricardo Rodriguez] eBioTIC. het volgende
 geschreven:

 Hi,

 Thibaut Camberlin wrote:
  Hi Gerritjan,
 
  Ludovic did that script not me I have to say!
 
  Did you test the same code on another version of XWiki ? If so what is
 the
  behaviour and the version ?
  Can you generate the livetable based on another class, say
 XWiki.XWikiUsers,
  what is the result ?
 
 

 It is working fine in a XE/XEM 2.4.1 system. Thibaut, you can check it
 here...

 http://ebiotic.net/bin/ICT/LiveTableUsers

  On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek 
  gerritjankoekk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi Thibaut,
  The script works like magic, very nice.
  Copy and Paste from the link created some formatting challenges, but
 after
  fixing the script generated actually created a live table;
  BUT...
  Still there are no records displayed? Like with the script I put in this
  question.
  The pages where the objects are stored are in a space that has access
  forbidden for unregistered users?
  Off course I run the generated script as a registered user (actually as
 a
  admin user
  I'm running this on xwiki 2.5
 
  Gerritjan
 
  Op 18 okt 2010, om 23:11 heeft Thibaut Camberlin het volgende
 geschreven:
 
  Hi Gerritjan,
 
  You can use the livetable generator code snippet
  http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/LivetableGeneratorSnippet
 
  Hope this helps,
  --
  Thibaut
 
 
  On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek 
  gerritjankoekk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  i'm trying to use LiveTable to improve our user experience.
  This is my code:
 
  #set($collist = [name, email , subject, status, question,
  answer, generalize])
 
  #set($colprops = {
  name : { type : text, size : 20,  link : view},
  email :{ type : text, size : 20,  link : view},
  subject :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none},
  status :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none},
  question :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none, html :
  true, sortable:false },
  answer :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none, html :
  true, sortable:false },
  generalize : { type : list, class:
  CdlsatdCode.CdLS_ATD_UserQuestionsClass}
})
 
  #set($options = {
  className:CdlsatdCode.CdLS_ATD_UserQuestionsClass,
  rowCount: 15 })
  p/
  #livetable(myLTQuestions $collist $colprops $options)
 
  It does show

Re: [xwiki-users] Livetable does not show results

2010-10-19 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi Gerritjan,

Ludovic did that script not me I have to say!

Did you test the same code on another version of XWiki ? If so what is the
behaviour and the version ?
Can you generate the livetable based on another class, say XWiki.XWikiUsers,
what is the result ?

Hope this helps,
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek 
gerritjankoekk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Thibaut,
 The script works like magic, very nice.
 Copy and Paste from the link created some formatting challenges, but after
 fixing the script generated actually created a live table;
 BUT...
 Still there are no records displayed? Like with the script I put in this
 question.
 The pages where the objects are stored are in a space that has access
 forbidden for unregistered users?
 Off course I run the generated script as a registered user (actually as a
 admin user
 I'm running this on xwiki 2.5

 Gerritjan

 Op 18 okt 2010, om 23:11 heeft Thibaut Camberlin het volgende geschreven:

 Hi Gerritjan,

 You can use the livetable generator code snippet
 http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/LivetableGeneratorSnippet

 Hope this helps,
 --
 Thibaut


 On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek 
 gerritjankoekk...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  i'm trying to use LiveTable to improve our user experience.
  This is my code:
 
  #set($collist = [name, email , subject, status, question,
  answer, generalize])
 
  #set($colprops = {
  name : { type : text, size : 20,  link : view},
  email :{ type : text, size : 20,  link : view},
  subject :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none},
  status :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none},
  question :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none, html :
  true, sortable:false },
  answer :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none, html :
  true, sortable:false },
  generalize : { type : list, class:
  CdlsatdCode.CdLS_ATD_UserQuestionsClass}
 })
 
  #set($options = {
  className:CdlsatdCode.CdLS_ATD_UserQuestionsClass,
  rowCount: 15 })
  p/
  #livetable(myLTQuestions $collist $colprops $options)
 
  It does show the table, but without any rows!
  The last column does recognize the List box as defined in the Class,
  because when I click it it shows the list of values defined in the class
 
  If I use a jsonQuery as in the example below, I get two records as
 defined
  in the filter.
  I tried to replace the above options value className with resultPage
  pointing to page containing the jsonQuery below... but with the same
 result,
  no rows returned
 
  ===
  {{include document=XWiki.LiveTableResultsMacros /}}
  {{velocity}}
  #gridresultwithfilter(CdlsatdCode.CdLS_ATD_UserQuestionsClass
  $request.collist.split(,)   and doc.creator='$context.user')
  {{/velocity}}
 
  the page I get shows me:
  {
  totalrows: 2,
  matchingtags: {
  },
  tags : [
  ],
  returnedrows:  0 ,
  offset: 1,
  reqNo: $request.reqNo,
  rows: [
  {
  doc_viewable : true,
  doc_name : GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
  doc_fullname : xwiki:CdlsatdPrivate.GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
  doc_space : CdlsatdPrivate,
  doc_url :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
  doc_space_url :
  \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/,
  doc_hasadmin  : true,
  doc_edit_url :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/inline\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
  doc_copy_url   :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/XWiki\/CopyDocument?sourcedoc=xwiki%3ACdlsatdPrivate.GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
  doc_delete_url :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/delete\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
  doc_rename_url :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261?xpage=renamestep=1,
  doc_rights_url :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/edit\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261?editor=rights,
  doc_author_url :
  \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/XWiki\/GerritjanKoekkoek,
  doc_date : 2009\/07\/18 16:44,
  doc_title : GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
  doc_author : Gerritjan Koekkoek,
  doc_creationDate : 2009\/07\/17 22:08,
  doc_creator : Gerritjan Koekkoek
  }
  , {
  doc_viewable : true,
  doc_name : GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
  doc_fullname : xwiki:CdlsatdPrivate.GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
  doc_space : CdlsatdPrivate,
  doc_url :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
  doc_space_url :
  \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/,
  doc_hasadmin  : true,
  doc_edit_url :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/inline\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
  doc_copy_url   :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/XWiki\/CopyDocument?sourcedoc=xwiki%3ACdlsatdPrivate.GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
  doc_delete_url :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/delete\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
  doc_rename_url :
 
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate

Re: [xwiki-users] Livetable does not show results

2010-10-18 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi Gerritjan,

You can use the livetable generator code snippet
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/LivetableGeneratorSnippet

Hope this helps,
--
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On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek 
gerritjankoekk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 i'm trying to use LiveTable to improve our user experience.
 This is my code:

 #set($collist = [name, email , subject, status, question,
 answer, generalize])

 #set($colprops = {
  name : { type : text, size : 20,  link : view},
  email :{ type : text, size : 20,  link : view},
  subject :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none},
  status :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none},
  question :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none, html :
 true, sortable:false },
  answer :{ type : text, size : 20, link : none, html :
 true, sortable:false },
  generalize : { type : list, class:
 CdlsatdCode.CdLS_ATD_UserQuestionsClass}
 })

 #set($options = {
  className:CdlsatdCode.CdLS_ATD_UserQuestionsClass,
  rowCount: 15 })
 p/
 #livetable(myLTQuestions $collist $colprops $options)

 It does show the table, but without any rows!
 The last column does recognize the List box as defined in the Class,
 because when I click it it shows the list of values defined in the class

 If I use a jsonQuery as in the example below, I get two records as defined
 in the filter.
 I tried to replace the above options value className with resultPage
 pointing to page containing the jsonQuery below... but with the same result,
 no rows returned

 ===
 {{include document=XWiki.LiveTableResultsMacros /}}
 {{velocity}}
 #gridresultwithfilter(CdlsatdCode.CdLS_ATD_UserQuestionsClass
 $request.collist.split(,)   and doc.creator='$context.user')
 {{/velocity}}

 the page I get shows me:
 {
 totalrows: 2,
 matchingtags: {
 },
 tags : [
 ],
 returnedrows:  0 ,
 offset: 1,
 reqNo: $request.reqNo,
 rows: [
 {
 doc_viewable : true,
 doc_name : GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
 doc_fullname : xwiki:CdlsatdPrivate.GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
 doc_space : CdlsatdPrivate,
 doc_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
 doc_space_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/,
 doc_hasadmin  : true,
 doc_edit_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/inline\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
 doc_copy_url   :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/XWiki\/CopyDocument?sourcedoc=xwiki%3ACdlsatdPrivate.GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
 doc_delete_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/delete\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
 doc_rename_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261?xpage=renamestep=1,
 doc_rights_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/edit\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261?editor=rights,
 doc_author_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/XWiki\/GerritjanKoekkoek,
 doc_date : 2009\/07\/18 16:44,
 doc_title : GerritjanKoekkoek_doc261,
 doc_author : Gerritjan Koekkoek,
 doc_creationDate : 2009\/07\/17 22:08,
 doc_creator : Gerritjan Koekkoek
 }
  , {
 doc_viewable : true,
 doc_name : GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
 doc_fullname : xwiki:CdlsatdPrivate.GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
 doc_space : CdlsatdPrivate,
 doc_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
 doc_space_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/,
 doc_hasadmin  : true,
 doc_edit_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/inline\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
 doc_copy_url   :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/XWiki\/CopyDocument?sourcedoc=xwiki%3ACdlsatdPrivate.GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
 doc_delete_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/delete\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
 doc_rename_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264?xpage=renamestep=1,
 doc_rights_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/edit\/CdlsatdPrivate\/GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264?editor=rights,
 doc_author_url :
 \/xwiki%2Denterprise%2Dweb%2D2.5\/bin\/view\/XWiki\/GerritjanKoekkoek,
 doc_date : 2009\/07\/20 14:22,
 doc_title : GerritjanKoekkoek_doc264,
 doc_author : Gerritjan Koekkoek,
 doc_creationDate : 2009\/07\/20 13:58,
 doc_creator : Gerritjan Koekkoek
 }
 ]}

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Re: [xwiki-users] [UX] Action Menus: What menu items we have into Simple/Advanced mode

2010-08-12 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi,

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Simple/Advanced mode definition

 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/PageEditing#HSimpleandAdvancededitingmodes

 After discussing Action Menu Improvements part 2 (

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2
 )
 we changed the position of Access rights from Edit submenu to
 Page
 submenu. Until now, changes done by Advanced mode were located only in
 Edit submenu.


+1



 A. The question is: what other items do you think should go under
 Simple/Advanced mode? Do we keep the same items? Do we add more? Do we
 simplify?


I would say the same.



 B. Another idea is to change Simple/Advanced mode into
 User/Developer/Admin in the structure we also have the documentation
 written.


+1 for the modes update. I would also add that User mode should not have the
WIKI: xwiki if this is a single instance (most of the time) because that
is just confusing.




 Obs1. The problem with menus is that they don't rely only on these modes,
 but also on the rights the users has to do some actions (like edit, delete,
 admin).

 Obs2. The ideal way for this topic would be to let administrators decide
 what goes into what mode, but even like that, we should still have some
 standards values for the modes.

 Thanks,
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Re: [xwiki-users] [UX] Action Menus: What menu items we have into Simple/Advanced mode

2010-08-12 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi,

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Simple/Advanced mode definition

 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/PageEditing#HSimpleandAdvancededitingmodes

 After discussing Action Menu Improvements part 2 (

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2
 )
 we changed the position of Access rights from Edit submenu to
 Page
 submenu. Until now, changes done by Advanced mode were located only in
 Edit submenu.


+1



 A. The question is: what other items do you think should go under
 Simple/Advanced mode? Do we keep the same items? Do we add more? Do we
 simplify?


I would say the same.



 B. Another idea is to change Simple/Advanced mode into
 User/Developer/Admin in the structure we also have the documentation
 written.


+1 for the modes update. I would also add that User mode should not have the
WIKI: xwiki if this is a single instance (most of the time) because that
is just confusing.




 Obs1. The problem with menus is that they don't rely only on these modes,
 but also on the rights the users has to do some actions (like edit, delete,
 admin).

 Obs2. The ideal way for this topic would be to let administrators decide
 what goes into what mode, but even like that, we should still have some
 standards values for the modes.

 Thanks,
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Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-12 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi,

+0.8 for 12A
+0.2 for 16B

--
Thibaut Camberlin

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Eveilleau tho...@xwiki.com wrote:

 +1 for 4

 Thomas

 Le 12/04/10 10:22, Jerome Velociter a écrit :
  +1 for 4
 
  Jerome.
 
 
  +1 to 16B (default-straight).
 
  Raluca.
 
  On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriuser...@xwiki.com
  wrote:
 
  Hello XWiki Community,
 
  We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many
  thanks to all those who submitted their ideas (
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the
  first round of votes (digest here:
 
 http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en
 ),
  we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round:
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
 
  The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not
  already done for round 1:
   * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the
  votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each
  proposal on
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 )
   * polish the design (if they consider it necessary)
   * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office
   * provide samples for light and dark background
   * provide a blackwhite version
   * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative
 part
  of the logo
   * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo
   * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current
  skin, colibri
 
  For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already
  uploaded here:
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
  For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions
  for round 2 as well,
  and voters will have to use their imagination in case
  any of the required use cases is missing.
 
 
  VOTING:
 
  You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or
  users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time.
 
  Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists
  (
 
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals
  ).
 
  IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference,
  please try to also ask yourself the following questions:
 
   * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos,
  including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo.
   * Is it easy to remember and recognize?
   * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new
  XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order
  to better integrate with the logo.
   * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be
  successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large
  poster?
   * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark
  backgrounds?
   * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)?
  It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look
  attractive and keep the main features.
 
 
  TIMELINE:
 
  08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org,
  users@xwiki.org
  11/Apr/10 : End of votes
 
 
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Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-12 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
My corrected vote is +1 for 12A.

:)

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Thibaut Camberlin 
thibaut.camber...@xwiki.com wrote:

 Hi,

 +0.8 for 12A
 +0.2 for 16B

 --
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 On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Eveilleau tho...@xwiki.comwrote:

 +1 for 4

 Thomas

 Le 12/04/10 10:22, Jerome Velociter a écrit :
  +1 for 4
 
  Jerome.
 
 
  +1 to 16B (default-straight).
 
  Raluca.
 
  On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriuser...@xwiki.com
  wrote:
 
  Hello XWiki Community,
 
  We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many
  thanks to all those who submitted their ideas (
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the
  first round of votes (digest here:
 
 http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en
 ),
  we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round:
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
 
  The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not
  already done for round 1:
   * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the
  votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each
  proposal on
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 )
   * polish the design (if they consider it necessary)
   * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and
 office
   * provide samples for light and dark background
   * provide a blackwhite version
   * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative
 part
  of the logo
   * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the
 logo
   * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current
  skin, colibri
 
  For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already
  uploaded here:
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
  For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions
  for round 2 as well,
  and voters will have to use their imagination in case
  any of the required use cases is missing.
 
 
  VOTING:
 
  You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or
  users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time.
 
  Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists
  (
 
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals
  ).
 
  IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference,
  please try to also ask yourself the following questions:
 
   * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other
 logos,
  including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo.
   * Is it easy to remember and recognize?
   * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new
  XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in
 order
  to better integrate with the logo.
   * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be
  successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large
  poster?
   * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark
  backgrounds?
   * What would it look like in black and white (not just
 grayscale)?
  It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look
  attractive and keep the main features.
 
 
  TIMELINE:
 
  08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org,
  users@xwiki.org
  11/Apr/10 : End of votes
 
 
  Thanks,
  --
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki watch on xwiki v2 ?

2010-01-07 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi Olivier,

did not test it personnaly, but one developer has tested Watch with XWiki
2.2-SNAPSHOT so you should not have problems with 2.1.x version

-- Thibaut


On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Olivier Berger 
olivier.ber...@it-sudparis.eu wrote:

 Hi.

 Is the XWiki Watch application compatible with most recent platform ?

 It is very unclear from the app's pages which is the most recent version
 supported.

 Thanks in advance.

 Best regards,
 --
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 http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/%7Eberger_o/-
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[xwiki-users] Time tracking application

2010-01-05 Thread Thibaut Camberlin
Hi Everyone,

I would need a time tracking application. The objective is to have an
application to log how much time is spend on project X for person Y.

Does that kind of application already exist, or even a draft that should be
completed ?

Thanks

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