Re: [xwiki-users] download link for Google Document Viwer Macro
On 02/11/2011 02:25 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote: Slightly off-topic : I've seen a presentation of WebODF ( http://www.webodf.org/) at FOSDEM, which would allow to create an office viewer macro that does not require an OOo server. Drawback is that it does not support MS Office files, just ODF files. There are other drawbacks too: * AGPL licence. If I understood correctly AGPL licence extends GPL only with the ability to use the code for creating a service over a network. So AGPL licence is still viral if you want to distribute the code. This makes WebODF suited for creating web services rather than for being packaged in a web application. * it relies on JavaScript and thus on client machine. Some of the examples from their demo page make my Firefox hang for a while. For some I even get the popup to stop the script because it runs for too long. * it relies heavily on CSS to make the result look as much as possible like the original ODF document. Because of this the result looks different across different browsers. Combined with the fact that they sink the XML content of the ODF document in the HTML content it makes the page heavy. * doesn't work in IE at all and some examples don't work in Chrome. Besides this, one advantage of using the OpenOffice server (our current approach) is that the result is better integrated into the wiki page. Office viewer relies on office importer. When you view an office document using the office viewer macro you view in fact how the office document would look like if it were imported into the wiki page. Thanks, Marius Jerome On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 02/10/2011 10:50 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Thanks a lot! Does Office macro also import pdf files? No. Office macro uses jodconverter which in turn uses OpenOffice server to convert between different office file formats. OpenOffice currently can only export an office file to pdf. Hope this helps, Marius Vito On Feb 10, 2011 9:26 PM, Vincent Massolvinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Vito, It's now been fixed by Jerome. Thanks for reporting it -Vincent On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Hi I am trying to download the Google Document Viewer Macro from the extensions wiki: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Google+Document+Viewer+Macro#HPrerequisites26InstallationInstructions however the download link still refers to the old code wiki (as in many other extensions). Where can I find the installation file? thanks -- Vito Impagliazzo ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] download link for Google Document Viwer Macro
AFAIK AGLP inherits all rules of GPL, adding one more, i.e. even in case you don't redistribute the software, but make it available through a web service, you are still constrained by the GPL license, i.e. make the whole source code available, of the AGPL component and any other linked piece of code (thus incompatible with any proprietary software, even if just part of the web service) On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 02/11/2011 02:25 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote: Slightly off-topic : I've seen a presentation of WebODF ( http://www.webodf.org/) at FOSDEM, which would allow to create an office viewer macro that does not require an OOo server. Drawback is that it does not support MS Office files, just ODF files. There are other drawbacks too: * AGPL licence. If I understood correctly AGPL licence extends GPL only with the ability to use the code for creating a service over a network. So AGPL licence is still viral if you want to distribute the code. This makes WebODF suited for creating web services rather than for being packaged in a web application. * it relies on JavaScript and thus on client machine. Some of the examples from their demo page make my Firefox hang for a while. For some I even get the popup to stop the script because it runs for too long. * it relies heavily on CSS to make the result look as much as possible like the original ODF document. Because of this the result looks different across different browsers. Combined with the fact that they sink the XML content of the ODF document in the HTML content it makes the page heavy. * doesn't work in IE at all and some examples don't work in Chrome. Besides this, one advantage of using the OpenOffice server (our current approach) is that the result is better integrated into the wiki page. Office viewer relies on office importer. When you view an office document using the office viewer macro you view in fact how the office document would look like if it were imported into the wiki page. Thanks, Marius Jerome On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 02/10/2011 10:50 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Thanks a lot! Does Office macro also import pdf files? No. Office macro uses jodconverter which in turn uses OpenOffice server to convert between different office file formats. OpenOffice currently can only export an office file to pdf. Hope this helps, Marius Vito On Feb 10, 2011 9:26 PM, Vincent Massolvinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Vito, It's now been fixed by Jerome. Thanks for reporting it -Vincent On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Hi I am trying to download the Google Document Viewer Macro from the extensions wiki: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Google+Document+Viewer+Macro#HPrerequisites26InstallationInstructions however the download link still refers to the old code wiki (as in many other extensions). Where can I find the installation file? thanks -- Vito Impagliazzo ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Vito Impagliazzo --- Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] download link for Google Document Viwer Macro
Yes I'm not saying in any case it should replace the office macro. I's just an alternative. We can't package it anyway since the llicense is not compatible, we could just distribute it on extensions.xwiki.org. Though it remains interesting and something to watch. It's possibly not mature enough yet, but the take is interesting. They plan to add (limited) support for editing documents in the future. It's also something you could use if for whatever reason you run in an environment without an OOo server. Jerome. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 02/11/2011 02:25 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote: Slightly off-topic : I've seen a presentation of WebODF ( http://www.webodf.org/) at FOSDEM, which would allow to create an office viewer macro that does not require an OOo server. Drawback is that it does not support MS Office files, just ODF files. There are other drawbacks too: * AGPL licence. If I understood correctly AGPL licence extends GPL only with the ability to use the code for creating a service over a network. So AGPL licence is still viral if you want to distribute the code. This makes WebODF suited for creating web services rather than for being packaged in a web application. * it relies on JavaScript and thus on client machine. Some of the examples from their demo page make my Firefox hang for a while. For some I even get the popup to stop the script because it runs for too long. * it relies heavily on CSS to make the result look as much as possible like the original ODF document. Because of this the result looks different across different browsers. Combined with the fact that they sink the XML content of the ODF document in the HTML content it makes the page heavy. * doesn't work in IE at all and some examples don't work in Chrome. Besides this, one advantage of using the OpenOffice server (our current approach) is that the result is better integrated into the wiki page. Office viewer relies on office importer. When you view an office document using the office viewer macro you view in fact how the office document would look like if it were imported into the wiki page. Thanks, Marius Jerome On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 02/10/2011 10:50 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Thanks a lot! Does Office macro also import pdf files? No. Office macro uses jodconverter which in turn uses OpenOffice server to convert between different office file formats. OpenOffice currently can only export an office file to pdf. Hope this helps, Marius Vito On Feb 10, 2011 9:26 PM, Vincent Massolvinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Vito, It's now been fixed by Jerome. Thanks for reporting it -Vincent On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Hi I am trying to download the Google Document Viewer Macro from the extensions wiki: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Google+Document+Viewer+Macro#HPrerequisites26InstallationInstructions however the download link still refers to the old code wiki (as in many other extensions). Where can I find the installation file? thanks -- Vito Impagliazzo ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] download link for Google Document Viwer Macro
On 02/11/2011 09:23 AM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: AFAIK AGLP inherits all rules of GPL, adding one more, i.e. even in case you don't redistribute the software, but make it available through a web service, you are still constrained by the GPL license, i.e. make the whole source code available, of the AGPL component and any other linked piece of code (thus incompatible with any proprietary software, even if just part of the web service) Indeed, AGPL is even more viral than GPL. So we can't really use it in the default distribution of XWiki, not even as a remote service. We can provide a module and make it available as an optional extension, since users can choose to use it privately, like we do for the PHP macro (GPL requires code availability only when distributing the software, and private use is not redistribution). On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 02/11/2011 02:25 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote: Slightly off-topic : I've seen a presentation of WebODF ( http://www.webodf.org/) at FOSDEM, which would allow to create an office viewer macro that does not require an OOo server. Drawback is that it does not support MS Office files, just ODF files. There are other drawbacks too: * AGPL licence. If I understood correctly AGPL licence extends GPL only with the ability to use the code for creating a service over a network. So AGPL licence is still viral if you want to distribute the code. This makes WebODF suited for creating web services rather than for being packaged in a web application. * it relies on JavaScript and thus on client machine. Some of the examples from their demo page make my Firefox hang for a while. For some I even get the popup to stop the script because it runs for too long. * it relies heavily on CSS to make the result look as much as possible like the original ODF document. Because of this the result looks different across different browsers. Combined with the fact that they sink the XML content of the ODF document in the HTML content it makes the page heavy. * doesn't work in IE at all and some examples don't work in Chrome. Besides this, one advantage of using the OpenOffice server (our current approach) is that the result is better integrated into the wiki page. Office viewer relies on office importer. When you view an office document using the office viewer macro you view in fact how the office document would look like if it were imported into the wiki page. Thanks, Marius Jerome On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 02/10/2011 10:50 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Thanks a lot! Does Office macro also import pdf files? No. Office macro uses jodconverter which in turn uses OpenOffice server to convert between different office file formats. OpenOffice currently can only export an office file to pdf. Hope this helps, Marius Vito On Feb 10, 2011 9:26 PM, Vincent Massolvinc...@massol.netwrote: Hi Vito, It's now been fixed by Jerome. Thanks for reporting it -Vincent On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Hi I am trying to download the Google Document Viewer Macro from the extensions wiki: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Google+Document+Viewer+Macro#HPrerequisites26InstallationInstructions however the download link still refers to the old code wiki (as in many other extensions). Where can I find the installation file? thanks -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] download link for Google Document Viwer Macro
Hello, That answer your question, but it is recommended to used http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Office+Macro instead Arnaud. 2011/2/4 Vito Impagliazzo vimpaglia...@gmail.com: Hi I am trying to download the Google Document Viewer Macro from the extensions wiki: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Google+Document+Viewer+Macro#HPrerequisites26InstallationInstructions however the download link still refers to the old code wiki (as in many other extensions). Where can I find the installation file? thanks -- Vito Impagliazzo --- Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] download link for Google Document Viwer Macro
Thanks a lot! Does Office macro also import pdf files? Vito On Feb 10, 2011 9:26 PM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Vito, It's now been fixed by Jerome. Thanks for reporting it -Vincent On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Hi I am trying to download the Google Document Viewer Macro from the extensions wiki: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Google+Document+Viewer+Macro#HPrerequisites26InstallationInstructions however the download link still refers to the old code wiki (as in many other extensions). Where can I find the installation file? thanks -- Vito Impagliazzo ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] download link for Google Document Viwer Macro
On 02/10/2011 10:50 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Thanks a lot! Does Office macro also import pdf files? No. Office macro uses jodconverter which in turn uses OpenOffice server to convert between different office file formats. OpenOffice currently can only export an office file to pdf. Hope this helps, Marius Vito On Feb 10, 2011 9:26 PM, Vincent Massolvinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Vito, It's now been fixed by Jerome. Thanks for reporting it -Vincent On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Hi I am trying to download the Google Document Viewer Macro from the extensions wiki: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Google+Document+Viewer+Macro#HPrerequisites26InstallationInstructions however the download link still refers to the old code wiki (as in many other extensions). Where can I find the installation file? thanks -- Vito Impagliazzo ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] download link for Google Document Viwer Macro
Slightly off-topic : I've seen a presentation of WebODF ( http://www.webodf.org/) at FOSDEM, which would allow to create an office viewer macro that does not require an OOo server. Drawback is that it does not support MS Office files, just ODF files. Jerome On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 02/10/2011 10:50 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Thanks a lot! Does Office macro also import pdf files? No. Office macro uses jodconverter which in turn uses OpenOffice server to convert between different office file formats. OpenOffice currently can only export an office file to pdf. Hope this helps, Marius Vito On Feb 10, 2011 9:26 PM, Vincent Massolvinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Vito, It's now been fixed by Jerome. Thanks for reporting it -Vincent On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Vito Impagliazzo wrote: Hi I am trying to download the Google Document Viewer Macro from the extensions wiki: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Google+Document+Viewer+Macro#HPrerequisites26InstallationInstructions however the download link still refers to the old code wiki (as in many other extensions). Where can I find the installation file? thanks -- Vito Impagliazzo ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
