[USMA 216] From Queen Elizabeth

[John Dunlop]

I just received a note from Queen Elizabeth.  She has declared that 
we are flubbing democracy, and therefore, effectively immediately, 
our independence is revoked.  Among the changes she will implement in 
the country formerly known as the USA:


6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will 
start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same 
time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the 
benefit of conversion tables.  Both roundabouts and metrication will 
help you understand the British sense of humour.


John




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[USMA 220] Re: From Queen Elizabeth

[Mark Henschel]

IT is getting hot here, up to almost 30 today in Illinois. A good friend of
mine, Phil Butler, and his daughter, were killed in a terrible traffic
accident in England. Don't think I can blame the roundabouts though, I
think it was because of all those stupid high hedges that block the view of
the road and oncoming traffic.

Mark

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Peter Goodyear 
wrote:

> In Australia we also drive on the wrong side of the road in cars with
> manual gearboxes and negotiate roundabouts clockwise* in speeds measured
> in kilometres per hour.* It’s a miracle we’re not all dead from traffic
> accidents.
>
> It’s going to be a cold 10ºC today in Melbourne
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Peter Goodyear
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2016, at 07:39, Mark Henschel  wrote:
>
> Interesting thing about the British and their roundabouts, and driving on
> the left side of the road.
>
> I was in a car being driven around England a few years back. The driver
> sits on the right, but the gear shift is in the left, in the middle of the
> car. So since they travel on the opposite side of the road, their
> roundabouts turn clockwise,  not counter clockwise as ours do.
>
> So here we are with the driver on the right, her left hand on the gear
> shift, right hand on the steering wheel, left foot on the clutch and right
> foot on the accelerator, and attempting to go counterclockwise into a
> roundabout. All the time looking right and turning left. At least in the
> USA we can use our best hand for most of us (right handers) on the gear
> shift and just hold the steering wheel with the left hand, look left and
> turn right, but I imagine it is a challenge to constantly use your left
> hand to shift gears if you are right handed.
>
> Few European cars have automatic transmissions. Even when I rented cars in
> Germany, they were usually stick shift but diesel engines. Hmmm. wonder if
> I got one of the cars VW cheated on the emissions with?
>
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, John Dunlop  wrote:
>
>> I just received a note from Queen Elizabeth.  She has declared that we
>> are flubbing democracy, and therefore, effectively immediately, our
>> independence is revoked.  Among the changes she will implement in the
>> country formerly known as the USA:
>>
>> 6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will
>> start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you
>> will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion
>> tables.  Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the
>> British sense of humour.
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> John Dunlop
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[USMA 219] Roundabouts

[Harry's Email]

In Noosa Australia, the roundabout capital of Down Under, there are upwards of 
fifty of them in a medium sized town--at almost every intersection. Locals 
complain that the edges of their tires (left edge, I guess) get worn town 
prematurely!  It was wonderful being in an SI only country. Rental cars down 
there are all automatic trans.

HARRY WYETH


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> On Jul 11, 2016, at 14:39, Mark Henschel  wrote:
> 
> Interesting thing about the British and their roundabouts, and driving on the 
> left side of the road.  
> 
> I was in a car being driven around England a few years back. The driver sits 
> on the right, but the gear shift is in the left, in the middle of the car. So 
> since they travel on the opposite side of the road, their roundabouts turn 
> clockwise,  not counter clockwise as ours do.
> 
> So here we are with the driver on the right, her left hand on the gear shift, 
> right hand on the steering wheel, left foot on the clutch and right foot on 
> the accelerator, and attempting to go counterclockwise into a roundabout. All 
> the time looking right and turning left. At least in the USA we can use our 
> best hand for most of us (right handers) on the gear shift and just hold the 
> steering wheel with the left hand, look left and turn right, but I imagine it 
> is a challenge to constantly use your left hand to shift gears if you are 
> right handed.
> 
> Few European cars have automatic transmissions. Even when I rented cars in 
> Germany, they were usually stick shift but diesel engines. Hmmm. wonder if I 
> got one of the cars VW cheated on the emissions with?
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, John Dunlop  wrote:
>> I just received a note from Queen Elizabeth.  She has declared that we are 
>> flubbing democracy, and therefore, effectively immediately, our independence 
>> is revoked.  Among the changes she will implement in the country formerly 
>> known as the USA:
>> 
>>> 6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start 
>>> driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will 
>>> go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion 
>>> tables.  Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the 
>>> British sense of humour.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John Dunlop
>> jrdun...@igc.org personal email
>> 612-374-2181 home phone
>> 
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[USMA 221] Cartoon

[James]

My wife came across this "almost metric" cartoon, as she put it...

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13653401_10153505042931595_5208133551650750595_o.jpg

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[USMA 217] Re: From Queen Elizabeth

[Mark Henschel]

Interesting thing about the British and their roundabouts, and driving on
the left side of the road.

I was in a car being driven around England a few years back. The driver
sits on the right, but the gear shift is in the left, in the middle of the
car. So since they travel on the opposite side of the road, their
roundabouts turn clockwise,  not counter clockwise as ours do.

So here we are with the driver on the right, her left hand on the gear
shift, right hand on the steering wheel, left foot on the clutch and right
foot on the accelerator, and attempting to go counterclockwise into a
roundabout. All the time looking right and turning left. At least in the
USA we can use our best hand for most of us (right handers) on the gear
shift and just hold the steering wheel with the left hand, look left and
turn right, but I imagine it is a challenge to constantly use your left
hand to shift gears if you are right handed.

Few European cars have automatic transmissions. Even when I rented cars in
Germany, they were usually stick shift but diesel engines. Hmmm. wonder if
I got one of the cars VW cheated on the emissions with?

Mark

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, John Dunlop  wrote:

> I just received a note from Queen Elizabeth.  She has declared that we are
> flubbing democracy, and therefore, effectively immediately, our
> independence is revoked.  Among the changes she will implement in the
> country formerly known as the USA:
>
> 6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start
> driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will
> go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion
> tables.  Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the
> British sense of humour.
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> John Dunlop
> jrdun...@igc.org personal email
> 612-374-2181 home phone
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[USMA 223] Re: From Queen Elizabeth

[Carleton MacDonald]

I rented a car in Ireland in 2009. It was a stick shift, wheel on the right, 
drive on the left side of the road. It wasn’t difficult.

 

We rented the car in Belfast, toured the shipyard where the Titanic and the 
Olympic were built, drove to Downpatrick to see St. Patrick’s burial site (at 
the Anglican cathedral there), then drove to Dublin. The minute we crossed the 
border, I noticed:

 

The road signs were in both English and Gaelic.

Speed limits and distances were in km.

I had to find a bank machine to get some euro notes.

 

Carleton

 

On 2016-07-11, 17:39, "USMA on behalf of Mark Henschel" 
 wrote:

 

Interesting thing about the British and their roundabouts, and driving on the 
left side of the road.  

 

I was in a car being driven around England a few years back. The driver sits on 
the right, but the gear shift is in the left, in the middle of the car. So 
since they travel on the opposite side of the road, their roundabouts turn 
clockwise,  not counter clockwise as ours do.

 

So here we are with the driver on the right, her left hand on the gear shift, 
right hand on the steering wheel, left foot on the clutch and right foot on the 
accelerator, and attempting to go counterclockwise into a roundabout. All the 
time looking right and turning left. At least in the USA we can use our best 
hand for most of us (right handers) on the gear shift and just hold the 
steering wheel with the left hand, look left and turn right, but I imagine it 
is a challenge to constantly use your left hand to shift gears if you are right 
handed.

 

Few European cars have automatic transmissions. Even when I rented cars in 
Germany, they were usually stick shift but diesel engines. Hmmm. wonder if I 
got one of the cars VW cheated on the emissions with?

 

Mark

 

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, John Dunlop  wrote:

I just received a note from Queen Elizabeth.  She has declared that we are 
flubbing democracy, and therefore, effectively immediately, our independence is 
revoked.  Among the changes she will implement in the country formerly known as 
the USA:



6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start 
driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go 
metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables.  
Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of 
humour.


John



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[USMA 224] Re: From Queen Elizabeth

[Stanislav Jakuba]

You answered my question. When I was there last (a long time ago) the
distances were in miles, but the speed limits were in km/h. Without the
km/h shown. As a passenger in a car, I was really scared of the speed until
the driver explained this state of affairs. I was like this apparently for
years and nobody seemed bothered.
Stan

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Carleton MacDonald 
wrote:

> I rented a car in Ireland in 2009. It was a stick shift, wheel on the
> right, drive on the left side of the road. It wasn’t difficult.
>
>
>
> We rented the car in Belfast, toured the shipyard where the Titanic and
> the Olympic were built, drove to Downpatrick to see St. Patrick’s burial
> site (at the Anglican cathedral there), then drove to Dublin. The minute we
> crossed the border, I noticed:
>
>
>
> The road signs were in both English and Gaelic.
>
> Speed limits and distances were in km.
>
> I had to find a bank machine to get some euro notes.
>
>
>
> Carleton
>
>
>
> On 2016-07-11, 17:39, "USMA on behalf of Mark Henschel" <
> usma-boun...@colostate.edu on behalf of mwhensch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Interesting thing about the British and their roundabouts, and driving on
> the left side of the road.
>
>
>
> I was in a car being driven around England a few years back. The driver
> sits on the right, but the gear shift is in the left, in the middle of the
> car. So since they travel on the opposite side of the road, their
> roundabouts turn clockwise,  not counter clockwise as ours do.
>
>
>
> So here we are with the driver on the right, her left hand on the gear
> shift, right hand on the steering wheel, left foot on the clutch and right
> foot on the accelerator, and attempting to go counterclockwise into a
> roundabout. All the time looking right and turning left. At least in the
> USA we can use our best hand for most of us (right handers) on the gear
> shift and just hold the steering wheel with the left hand, look left and
> turn right, but I imagine it is a challenge to constantly use your left
> hand to shift gears if you are right handed.
>
>
>
> Few European cars have automatic transmissions. Even when I rented cars in
> Germany, they were usually stick shift but diesel engines. Hmmm. wonder if
> I got one of the cars VW cheated on the emissions with?
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, John Dunlop  wrote:
>
> I just received a note from Queen Elizabeth.  She has declared that we are
> flubbing democracy, and therefore, effectively immediately, our
> independence is revoked.  Among the changes she will implement in the
> country formerly known as the USA:
>
>
> 6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start
> driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will
> go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion
> tables.  Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the
> British sense of humour.
>
>
> John
>
>
> John Dunlop
> jrdun...@igc.org personal email
> 612-374-2181 home phone
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[USMA 218] Re: From Queen Elizabeth

[Peter Goodyear]

In Australia we also drive on the wrong side of the road in cars with manual 
gearboxes and negotiate roundabouts clockwise in speeds measured in kilometres 
per hour. It’s a miracle we’re not all dead from traffic accidents.

It’s going to be a cold 10ºC today in Melbourne

Best wishes,

Peter Goodyear


> On 12 Jul 2016, at 07:39, Mark Henschel  wrote:
> 
> Interesting thing about the British and their roundabouts, and driving on the 
> left side of the road.  
> 
> I was in a car being driven around England a few years back. The driver sits 
> on the right, but the gear shift is in the left, in the middle of the car. So 
> since they travel on the opposite side of the road, their roundabouts turn 
> clockwise,  not counter clockwise as ours do.
> 
> So here we are with the driver on the right, her left hand on the gear shift, 
> right hand on the steering wheel, left foot on the clutch and right foot on 
> the accelerator, and attempting to go counterclockwise into a roundabout. All 
> the time looking right and turning left. At least in the USA we can use our 
> best hand for most of us (right handers) on the gear shift and just hold the 
> steering wheel with the left hand, look left and turn right, but I imagine it 
> is a challenge to constantly use your left hand to shift gears if you are 
> right handed.
> 
> Few European cars have automatic transmissions. Even when I rented cars in 
> Germany, they were usually stick shift but diesel engines. Hmmm. wonder if I 
> got one of the cars VW cheated on the emissions with?
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, John Dunlop  > wrote:
> I just received a note from Queen Elizabeth.  She has declared that we are 
> flubbing democracy, and therefore, effectively immediately, our independence 
> is revoked.  Among the changes she will implement in the country formerly 
> known as the USA:
> 
>> 6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start 
>> driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will 
>> go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion 
>> tables.  Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the 
>> British sense of humour.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
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> jrdun...@igc.org personal email
> 612-374-2181  home phone
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[USMA 225] Re: Cartoon

[Pierre Abbat]

On Monday, July 11, 2016 17:09:20 James wrote:
> My wife came across this "almost metric" cartoon, as she put it...
> 
> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13653401_10153505042931595_5208
> 133551650750595_o.jpg

I got a timeout. Is it available elsewhere?

Pierre
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[USMA 227] Re: Cartoon

[James]

Not that I know of.

Jim

On 2016-07-11 20:15, Pierre Abbat wrote:

On Monday, July 11, 2016 17:09:20 James wrote:

My wife came across this "almost metric" cartoon, as she put it...

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13653401_10153505042931595_5208
133551650750595_o.jpg


I got a timeout. Is it available elsewhere?

Pierre


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[USMA 226] How common are kitchen scales?

[Pierre Abbat]

I recently got the book Healthy 4 Life from the WAPF. Besides nutritional 
advice, it is full of recipes, almost all of which use cups or spoons as 
units. I'm thinking of asking them to provide the equivalent mass in grams of 
all ingredients. The mass, however, is no use without a scale. If I picked a 
household at random from (the USA/the Anglophony/Europe/...), how likely is it 
to have a kitchen scale, and with what precision? I have two: a gram scale 
which I use to weigh things in a pot, and a decigram scale which I use to 
weigh rice, salt, wakame, and other things in a small container.

Pierre
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The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave.
The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing snave.

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[USMA 228] Re: Cartoon

[Hillger,Donald]

See http://www.us-metric.org/metric-system-cartoons/


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, 11 July, 2016 20:13
To: usma@colostate.edu
Subject: [USMA 227] Re: Cartoon

Not that I know of.

Jim

On 2016-07-11 20:15, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Monday, July 11, 2016 17:09:20 James wrote:
>> My wife came across this "almost metric" cartoon, as she put it...
>>
>> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13653401_10153505042931595_5208
>> 133551650750595_o.jpg
>
> I got a timeout. Is it available elsewhere?
>
> Pierre
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[USMA 229] Re: From Queen Elizabeth

[Paul Trusten]

Peter, who is to say which is "wrong?"  I would think that, to the drivers on 
the left, the rest of the world has it wrong (grin). 

Concerning metric Australia, I enjoyed two splendid weeks in 2007 visiting 
there, in a country where your measurement is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!  I use 
Australia as my model for a formerly inch-pound nation that successfully 
changed over completely to metric. The only reference to the legacy units was 
on a clearance sign at a building carpark entrance in Melbourne. It gave the 
clearance in both millimeters and feet.  

It's been a'flirtin' with 40ºC here in Texas, USA!

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 16:50, Peter Goodyear  wrote:
> 
> In Australia we also drive on the wrong side of the road in cars with manual 
> gearboxes and negotiate roundabouts clockwise in speeds measured in 
> kilometres per hour. It’s a miracle we’re not all dead from traffic accidents.
> 
> It’s going to be a cold 10º today in Melbourne
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Peter Goodyear
> 
> 
>> On 12 Jul 2016, at 07:39, Mark Henschel  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting thing about the British and their roundabouts, and driving on 
>> the left side of the road.  
>> 
>> I was in a car being driven around England a few years back. The driver sits 
>> on the right, but the gear shift is in the left, in the middle of the car. 
>> So since they travel on the opposite side of the road, their roundabouts 
>> turn clockwise,  not counter clockwise as ours do.
>> 
>> So here we are with the driver on the right, her left hand on the gear 
>> shift, right hand on the steering wheel, left foot on the clutch and right 
>> foot on the accelerator, and attempting to go counterclockwise into a 
>> roundabout. All the time looking right and turning left. At least in the USA 
>> we can use our best hand for most of us (right handers) on the gear shift 
>> and just hold the steering wheel with the left hand, look left and turn 
>> right, but I imagine it is a challenge to constantly use your left hand to 
>> shift gears if you are right handed.
>> 
>> Few European cars have automatic transmissions. Even when I rented cars in 
>> Germany, they were usually stick shift but diesel engines. Hmmm. wonder if I 
>> got one of the cars VW cheated on the emissions with?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, John Dunlop  wrote:
>>> I just received a note from Queen Elizabeth.  She has declared that we are 
>>> flubbing democracy, and therefore, effectively immediately, our 
>>> independence is revoked.  Among the changes she will implement in the 
>>> country formerly known as the USA:
>>> 
 6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start 
 driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will 
 go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion 
 tables.  Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the 
 British sense of humour.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John Dunlop
>>> jrdun...@igc.org personal email
>>> 612-374-2181 home phone
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