[vchkpw] Opinions needed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Some of you may be aware I'm working on changes and additions to the quota system in vpopmail. Part of the aim of the updated system is to provide future-proofing against the problems we're having now, where quota sizes and usage counts are overflowing in various circumstances, either in vpopmail, or in applications utilizing vpopmail. My question is this; would anyone ever require a quota below a megabyte, or, would any application ever really need to know about specific usage counts below a megabyte? When calculating usage, I'm thinking about making the smallest measure of unit a megabyte storing the result in a 64bit unsigned integer. The 64bit value is almost a requirement, but making the smallest unit of measure a megabyte, should future-proof for quite a bit longer. - -- /* Matt Brookings m...@inter7.com GnuPG Key D9414F70 Software developer Systems technician Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. (815)776-9465 */ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJdzVU6QgvSNlBT3ARAiFnAKCeHYx2gywPskZk5S//QBAud2VjrACfTynz 7ASJaP8uqjghUBvwbWi/SxQ= =iOoj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [vchkpw] Opinions needed
I personally don't require it. It also seems to me with disk space costing what it does, and compression being readily available (via plugins, ZFS, or what have you) it shouldn't really be an issue. Are there any applications that display the actual quota amount that do NOT round to the megabyte? It seems to me that most show percentage used, and round to the megabyte if they do display the actual number - maybe that's where the problem will lie.. Applications that convert the actual quota from bytes to megabytes will break. Rick Matt Brookings wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Some of you may be aware I'm working on changes and additions to the quota system in vpopmail. Part of the aim of the updated system is to provide future-proofing against the problems we're having now, where quota sizes and usage counts are overflowing in various circumstances, either in vpopmail, or in applications utilizing vpopmail. My question is this; would anyone ever require a quota below a megabyte, or, would any application ever really need to know about specific usage counts below a megabyte? When calculating usage, I'm thinking about making the smallest measure of unit a megabyte storing the result in a 64bit unsigned integer. The 64bit value is almost a requirement, but making the smallest unit of measure a megabyte, should future-proof for quite a bit longer. - -- /* Matt Brookings m...@inter7.com GnuPG Key D9414F70 Software developer Systems technician Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. (815)776-9465 */ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJdzVU6QgvSNlBT3ARAiFnAKCeHYx2gywPskZk5S//QBAud2VjrACfTynz 7ASJaP8uqjghUBvwbWi/SxQ= =iOoj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rick Romero Need IT assistance? VF IT Services / VFEmail.net www.vfit.biz / www.vfemail.net !DSPAM:49773dc432683754956235!
Re: [vchkpw] Opinions needed
My question is this; would anyone ever require a quota below a megabyte, or, would any application ever really need to know about specific usage counts below a megabyte? Not us, however current applications assume the format is in bytes (for example the maildirsize file) so calucalations will be off in some frontends or custom made backends when calculating the usage. Sincerely, - Wouter van der Schagt !DSPAM:49773fc232689127091031!
Re: [vchkpw] Opinions needed
i don't really see 16 exabyte mailboxes in near future. But when the time comes for those, there should be 128bit processors and operating systems, so replacing the 64bit unsigned int with a 128bit one at that point should not be a too great deal. Maybe future proof by defining the thing in one place. just my 2 cents. ++jukka !DSPAM:4977794732681263011309!
Re: [vchkpw] New development release
Matt Brookings wrote: I've tagged the current CVS HEAD as version 5.4.27, a development release. It is available for download. I've now compiled and installed on a 64 bit machine. This is a low usage live server, and seems to be working. I use the CDB back end on all of my installs. I did not need to use any of the tricks that used to be required to get older versions to compile on a 64 bit processor. I believe the 64 bit problems were fixed sometime after 5.4.18 when I switched build system files to something created after 64 bit processors became popular. I have spotted one small problem... On both of these installs the first thing make did was run aclocal then run ./configure again. I believe this is a bug in the files created by the gnu build system. The fix may be to run the following: aclocal autoconf autoheader automake before packaging the next update. You will want to be sure you are running with a reasonably recent version of the gnu build system. The test to verify it is fixed is to insure make doesn't run ./configure when you are building from a fresh tarball. This probably doesn't deserve its own release since most people will not notice. OTOH, someone without the build system installed will be unable to get past the make step of building. If you haven't done the svn conversion yet, you might want to fix this before you do. Build system file updates are messy since we have many of the output files in cvs/svn. Rick !DSPAM:4977b4b832681990434868!
Re: [vchkpw] Opinions needed
On Jan 21, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Matt Brookings wrote: My question is this; would anyone ever require a quota below a megabyte, or, would any application ever really need to know about specific usage counts below a megabyte? When calculating usage, I'm thinking about making the smallest measure of unit a megabyte storing the result in a 64bit unsigned integer. The 64bit value is almost a requirement, but making the smallest unit of measure a megabyte, should future-proof for quite a bit longer. Two thoughts on quotas. You're going to have to deal in sub-megabyte numbers, since the size of most messages are measured in KB. Maybe you could track the quota in kbytes, rounding up/down as necessary? All programs that deal with the quota (maildirsize file) will have to use 128-bit numbers (long long?) or whatever new method you come up with. This includes not just vpopmail, but your IMAP server and potentially maildrop and qmail (if you have any .qmail files that are handled by qmail and not vdelivermail). Maybe they can use a dynamically linked library? -Tom !DSPAM:4978006832684277763451!
