Re: [vdr] UK Freeview Logical Channel Numbers

2007-02-15 Thread Tony Grant
Le jeudi 15 février 2007 à 00:12 +0100, Rob Davis a écrit :

 What I am after is an ordered channel list in the same order as the 
 official decoders from different providers.  ie, someone from outside 
 the UK wouldn't necessarily know that the channels go:
 
 BBC 1, 2 , ITV 1, Ch 4, five.  Then BBC 3, 4 etc.

I always thought that I could put them in the order I want to (which I
do) by messing with channels.conf?

My on screen EPG is shown with the channels in the same order as hey
appear in channels.conf. Am I missing a very important idea here?

BBC 1
London;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5000:5001=eng,5002=NAR:5003:0:6301:2:2045:0
BBC 2
England;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5100:5101=eng,5102=NAR:5103:0:6302:2:2045:0
BBC
THREE;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5200:5201=eng,5202=NAR:5203:0:6319:2:2045:0
BBC
FOUR;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5300:5301=eng,5302=NAR:5303:0:6316:2:2045:0
CBBC
Channel;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5200:5201=eng,5202=NAR:5203:0:6317:2:2045:0
CBeebies;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5300:5301=eng,5302=NAR:5303:0:6318:2:2045:0
BBC NEWS
24;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5400:5401=eng:5403:0:6304:2:2045:0
ITV1
Granada;BSkyB:10758:vC56:S28.2E:22000:2342:2343=eng:2320:0:10080:2:2044:0
ITV2;BSkyB:10758:vC56:S28.2E:22000:2348:2349=eng,2351=NAR:2317:0:10070:2:2044:0
ITV3;BSkyB:10906:v:S28.2E:22000:2356:2357:0:0:10260:2:2044:0
ITV4;BSkyB:10758:v:S28.2E:22000:2355:2356=eng:0:0:10072:2:2044:0
:-
Below this point are the channels found by epg scan


Tony
PS any news on when/if Channel5 and channel4 will be FTA?

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Re: [vdr] UK Freeview Logical Channel Numbers

2007-02-15 Thread Andrew Herron

The point is that a £20 freeview box automatically sorts the channel list
using the broadcast lcn data without any user intervention. Then of course
all the channel numbering is correct and conforms to the UK freeview channel
order. By using Tony's script we get the same functionality in vdr for UK
Freeview channel numbering without having to manually resort the channel
list every time we rescan.

Your channel list below is not in UK Freeview LCN order of course.

Channel 4 and 5 have been free to air for ages on freeview, cable and Sky by
the way.

Cheers

Andrew

On 2/15/07, Tony Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Le jeudi 15 février 2007 à 00:12 +0100, Rob Davis a écrit :

 What I am after is an ordered channel list in the same order as the
 official decoders from different providers.  ie, someone from outside
 the UK wouldn't necessarily know that the channels go:

 BBC 1, 2 , ITV 1, Ch 4, five.  Then BBC 3, 4 etc.

I always thought that I could put them in the order I want to (which I
do) by messing with channels.conf?

My on screen EPG is shown with the channels in the same order as hey
appear in channels.conf. Am I missing a very important idea here?

BBC 1
London;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E
:22000:5000:5001=eng,5002=NAR:5003:0:6301:2:2045:0
BBC 2
England;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E
:22000:5100:5101=eng,5102=NAR:5103:0:6302:2:2045:0
BBC
THREE;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E
:22000:5200:5201=eng,5202=NAR:5203:0:6319:2:2045:0
BBC
FOUR;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E
:22000:5300:5301=eng,5302=NAR:5303:0:6316:2:2045:0
CBBC
Channel;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E
:22000:5200:5201=eng,5202=NAR:5203:0:6317:2:2045:0
CBeebies;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E
:22000:5300:5301=eng,5302=NAR:5303:0:6318:2:2045:0
BBC NEWS
24;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5400:5401=eng:5403:0:6304:2:2045:0
ITV1
Granada;BSkyB:10758:vC56:S28.2E:22000:2342:2343=eng:2320:0:10080:2:2044:0
ITV2;BSkyB:10758:vC56:S28.2E
:22000:2348:2349=eng,2351=NAR:2317:0:10070:2:2044:0
ITV3;BSkyB:10906:v:S28.2E:22000:2356:2357:0:0:10260:2:2044:0
ITV4;BSkyB:10758:v:S28.2E:22000:2355:2356=eng:0:0:10072:2:2044:0
:-
Below this point are the channels found by epg scan


Tony
PS any news on when/if Channel5 and channel4 will be FTA?

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Re: [vdr] UK Freeview Logical Channel Numbers

2007-02-15 Thread Rob Davis

Tony Grant wrote:

Le jeudi 15 février 2007 à 00:12 +0100, Rob Davis a écrit :

What I am after is an ordered channel list in the same order as the 
official decoders from different providers.  ie, someone from outside 
the UK wouldn't necessarily know that the channels go:


BBC 1, 2 , ITV 1, Ch 4, five.  Then BBC 3, 4 etc.


I always thought that I could put them in the order I want to (which I
do) by messing with channels.conf?

My on screen EPG is shown with the channels in the same order as hey
appear in channels.conf. Am I missing a very important idea here?

BBC 1
London;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5000:5001=eng,5002=NAR:5003:0:6301:2:2045:0
BBC 2
England;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5100:5101=eng,5102=NAR:5103:0:6302:2:2045:0
BBC
THREE;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5200:5201=eng,5202=NAR:5203:0:6319:2:2045:0
BBC
FOUR;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5300:5301=eng,5302=NAR:5303:0:6316:2:2045:0
CBBC
Channel;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5200:5201=eng,5202=NAR:5203:0:6317:2:2045:0
CBeebies;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5300:5301=eng,5302=NAR:5303:0:6318:2:2045:0
BBC NEWS
24;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5400:5401=eng:5403:0:6304:2:2045:0
ITV1
Granada;BSkyB:10758:vC56:S28.2E:22000:2342:2343=eng:2320:0:10080:2:2044:0
ITV2;BSkyB:10758:vC56:S28.2E:22000:2348:2349=eng,2351=NAR:2317:0:10070:2:2044:0
ITV3;BSkyB:10906:v:S28.2E:22000:2356:2357:0:0:10260:2:2044:0
ITV4;BSkyB:10758:v:S28.2E:22000:2355:2356=eng:0:0:10072:2:2044:0
:-
Below this point are the channels found by epg scan


Have a look at:

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/skyuk_chno.html

From there a channels.conf file would look roughly:

:@101
BBC 1 
West;BSkyB:10817:vC56:S28.2E:22000:2305:2307=eng:2309:0:10351:2:2048:0:west.bbc1.bbc.co.uk

:@102
BBC 2 
England;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5100:5101=eng,5102=NAR:5103:0:6302:2:2045:0:west.bbc2.bbc.co.uk

:@103
ITV1 
West;BSkyB:10832:hC56:S28.2E:22000:2344:2345=eng:2346:0:10030:2:2049:0:west.htv.co.uk

:@104
Channel 
4;BSkyB:12168:V:S28.2E:27500:2311+2304:2312=eng,2313=NAR:2314:960,961:9201:2:2024:0:channel4.com

:@105
Five;BSkyB:12304:H:S28.2E:27500:514+8190:662=eng,682=NAR:578:960,961:9343:2:2031:0:channel5.co.uk
:@106
Sky 
One;BSkyB:12285:v:S28.2E:27500:513+8190:641=eng,661=NAR:577:960,961:4703:2:2030:0:sky-one.sky.com

:@107
Sky 
Two;BSkyB:12226:h:S28.2E:27500:514+8190:642=eng,662=NAR:578:960,961:5104:2:2027:0:sky-two.sky.com

:@108
Sky 
Three;BSkyB:12226:h:S28.2E:27500:512+8190:640=eng,660=NAR:576:960,961:5103:2:2027:0:sky-three.sky.com

:@109
UKTV 
Gold;BSkyB:11817:V:S28.2E:27500:2326:2328=eng,2330=NAR:2327:960,961:6504:2:2006:0:uk-gold.flextech.telewest.co.uk

:@110
UKTV Gold 
+1;BSkyB:11992:H:S28.2E:27500:2329:2330=eng,2354=NAR:2331:960,961:7605:2:2015:0:plus-1.uk-gold.flextech.telewest.co.uk
UK Gold 
2~;BSkyB:11817:V:S28.2E:27500:2336:2338=eng:2337:960,961:6516:2:2006:0:uk-gold-2.flextech.telewest.co.uk

:@115
BBC 
THREE;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5200:5201=eng,5202=NAR:5203:0:6319:2:2045:0:choice.bbc.co.uk

:@116
BBC 
FOUR;BSkyB:10773:hC56:S28.2E:22000:5300:5301=eng,5302=NAR:5303:0:6316:2:2045:0:knowledge.bbc.co.uk

:@117
ITV2;BSkyB:10758:v:S28.2E:22000:2348:2349=eng,2352=NAR:2354:0:10070:2:2044:0:itv2.itv.co.uk
:@118
ITV3;BSkyB:10906:v:S28.2E:22000:2356:2357=eng,2358=NAR:2359:0:10260:2:2054:0:itv3.itv.co.uk
:@119
ITV4;BSkyB:10758:v:S28.2E:22000:2368:2369=eng:2370:0:10072:2:2044:0:itv4.itv.co.uk

etc..

If you wanted to have the same numbers as a Sky Digibox.

Now, if you had two feeds, say Sky UK and Sky Italia (Like us)

You also have:

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/skyitalia_chno.html

The format is roughly the same..






Tony
PS any news on when/if Channel5 and channel4 will be FTA?



Their licence expires next year, but no one seems to know if then will 
then go FTA or stay FTV.


I have a FreeSat card, so am not too worried.



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Re: [vdr] UK Freeview Logical Channel Numbers

2007-02-15 Thread Tony Grant
Le jeudi 15 février 2007 à 09:15 +0100, Rob Davis a écrit :

 
 If you wanted to have the same numbers as a Sky Digibox.

OK I see. 

I am a very basic viewer who just zaps around on a whim recording the
odd film now and then and of course MotoGP. Since we moved my VDR box
died (bad capacitors) and so the dish isn't even bolted to the front of
the house yet... And now we have a DVB-T box to watch all 18 free French
channels. But bike season is approaching fast so I will be hooking
everything up again soon.

Tony

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Re: [vdr] VDR user input slowness

2007-02-15 Thread Teemu Suikki
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Teemu Suikki wrote:

 Why is the user input so slow? When I press a key in remote, there seems
 to be a random delay of 0-0.5sec or so.. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes
 not. It's fine in channel switching but really annoying when you a trying
 to input filenames or something.

.. Replying to myself.. The problem seems to be in kernel level after all,
I enabled ir_debug in budget-ci module and the same delay is there as
well, debug log appears at the same time as vdr reacts to the keypress.

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Re: [vdr] VDR user input slowness

2007-02-15 Thread Laz
On Thursday 15 February 2007 11:30, Teemu Suikki wrote:
 On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Teemu Suikki wrote:
  Why is the user input so slow? When I press a key in remote, there
  seems to be a random delay of 0-0.5sec or so.. Sometimes it's fast,
  sometimes not. It's fine in channel switching but really annoying
  when you a trying to input filenames or something.

 .. Replying to myself.. The problem seems to be in kernel level after
 all, I enabled ir_debug in budget-ci module and the same delay is there
 as well, debug log appears at the same time as vdr reacts to the
 keypress.

This is a known driver problem: a link to a patch was posted a few weeks 
back which removes this delay. See:
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2007-February/011994.html

I've always had more success with a home-brew LIRC receiver on a serial 
port.

Cheers,

Laurence

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Re: [vdr] VDR user input slowness

2007-02-15 Thread Teemu Suikki
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Laz wrote:

 On Thursday 15 February 2007 11:30, Teemu Suikki wrote:
  On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Teemu Suikki wrote:
   Why is the user input so slow? When I press a key in remote, there
   seems to be a random delay of 0-0.5sec or so.. Sometimes it's fast,
   sometimes not. It's fine in channel switching but really annoying
   when you a trying to input filenames or something.
 
  .. Replying to myself.. The problem seems to be in kernel level after
  all, I enabled ir_debug in budget-ci module and the same delay is there
  as well, debug log appears at the same time as vdr reacts to the
  keypress.

 This is a known driver problem: a link to a patch was posted a few weeks
 back which removes this delay. See:
 http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2007-February/011994.html

 I've always had more success with a home-brew LIRC receiver on a serial
 port.

I think I'll go for LIRC too.. :( I installed the above patch, it is
slightly better but not very much.

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Re: [vdr] UK Freeview Logical Channel Numbers

2007-02-15 Thread Tony Houghton
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Houghton wrote:

 I've had trouble in the past with VDR disagreeing with the format used
 by the output of scan so I've written a script which compares VDR's
 channels.conf with the output of scan with Freeview numbering and
 outputs a new file with VDR's channel data but resorted and with the
 Freeview numbering added.

Actually, this script isn't much use after all. When scan's run in vdr
compatibility mode (which isn't fully compatible with vdr anyway) it
misses out the part-time channels ie BBC3, CBeebies etc depending on the
time of day. And the script fails to correct the resultant clashes eg
BBCi being channel 2.

What we really need is a patch for VDR to make it get the channel
numbers and sort on them. Some sort of bootstrapping would be a good
idea too. At the moment VDR exits without any error messages if it
doesn't have a channels.conf. It should at least allow the use of the
OSD and/or ask the user for whatever info it needs to start a scan.

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Re: [vdr] VDR user input slowness

2007-02-15 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 04:37:16PM +0200, Teemu Suikki wrote:
   .. Replying to myself.. The problem seems to be in kernel level after
   all, I enabled ir_debug in budget-ci module and the same delay is there
   as well, debug log appears at the same time as vdr reacts to the
   keypress.
 
  This is a known driver problem: a link to a patch was posted a few weeks
  back which removes this delay. See:
  http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2007-February/011994.html
 
  I've always had more success with a home-brew LIRC receiver on a serial
  port.
 
 I think I'll go for LIRC too.. :( I installed the above patch, it is
 slightly better but not very much.

But are you using the cx88 kernel module?  My patch probably breaks all
other drivers depending on ir-common.c or ir-funtions.c, as it is called
in later 2.6 kernels.  I'm talking about this patch, which I have been
using since I made it:

http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/software/vdr/linux-2.6.15.2-cx88_input2.patch

As far as I understand, the cx23882 features a 32-bit shift register for
sampling the output of the infrared receiver and generates an interrupt
after every 32 shifted bits.  I don't know the shifting frequency, but
let's assume that the shift register takes 6 samples of each time base
T=16/9 ms.  The duration of a whole RC5 frame is 64*T, or about 114 ms.
The worst case delay of the shift register would then be something like
32*(T/6) = 9.5 ms.  By Nyquist's sampling theorem, the absolute minimum
sampling frequency would be 1/T (because the minimum pulse width in RC5
code is T/2).  Thus, the maximum delay caused by the shift register would
be 32*T = 57 ms.  I don't think that you can notice that kind of delays,
nor that you would get much smaller delays with LIRC.

Marko

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[vdr] execute script on channel change??

2007-02-15 Thread Simon Baxter
Has anyone done anything like this?

Thanks!

Simon

 I'm looking for a way to execute a command whenever a channel change is
 selected.  I think part of the 'sky' plugin is close to what I want -
 without the stream type changing part.

 I have a PVR-150 running with the pvrinput plugin, attached via composite
 to a digital cable STB.  I have led-xmit (from the Myth pages) working
 from the command line, but need a way for VDR to execute a command each
 time a channel-change is requested, either for a recording or manually:

 /usr/local/lirc-ledxmit/bin/ledxmit-irsend SEND_ONCE ADB_ICAN3000
 channel#


 Has anyone done anything like this?


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