[vdr] Switching from MythTV to VDR

2009-10-14 Thread Andre Newman

Hi,

I'm looking for some pointers on VDR coming from a MythTV history. I'm  
happy with most of the MythTV features but not the stability or the  
playback image quality, I've been using MythTV as my only TV recorder  
for some years.
I got around the image quality issues by using a PS3 for playback and  
have monit restarting mythtv-backend or mysql for me when it falls over.


I have a vdr 1.7.8 on Ubuntu system running to try out, a long term  
vdr user German friend helped me get started with vdr as I found lots  
of things only really discussed or documented in German, I got past  
that and learned a little German, I now seem to be able to find most  
things but not all
These are my questions and my friend does not know and cannot find me  
solutions, googling hasn't given me any answers and I've been reading  
this list for some time too.


I don't have a full featured card, I tried to buy one at first but  
they don't seem to exist any more, I have a HVR4000 in my test PC, oh  
and I'm not really very interested in SDTV or analog TV, only HDTV. I  
am in the UK but have a system looking at 28E, 19E and 13E as well as  
local DVBT. The PC has an Nvidia 9400gt so VDPAU is possible, I have  
tried it through MythTV and standalone mplayer but I'm not very  
impressed with the image quality, I'll stick with the PS3 for now.


Good stuff is mature DVBS2 support, bomb proof stability, sky and  
freesat epg, sc, vdr-admin, static network protocol, live streaming.


In general I find that if vdr has a feature, it works really well.

My problems, not many but they are stoppers.

No ITVHD, I tried the fixed pid and turn off updates workaround but it  
didn't work for me, not so important as I suspect red button ITVHD  
will be history in a couple of months, not like I'd be missing many  
programmes anyway!


no uPnP
Ok have fixed this by running mediatomb pointed at the media  
directory, performance is great (better than MythTV's built in uPnP)  
but vdr's naming convention and file splitting makes this a mess. I  
was pointed to the max file size setting but this is only 2GB as a max  
or is it 4GB, either way even a 1 hour HDTV show on a low bitrate  
channel has several files.
I get a very very long list of files all called 1 2 etc. to  
navigate through! Ok there's useful switches to make the directories  
more meaningful but that means a lot of digging through the file  
structure from the PS3 menu, not ideal.


Timers, I'm used to MythTV's record programme XXX on any channel at  
any time flexibility which follows programme reschedules, new series  
starting without me knowing, all kinds of good stuff that I now take  
for granted. vdr seems to set the timer for a channel and a time like  
an ordinary PVR or VCR with EPG. If there's a plugin that takes this  
up a level I'm struggling to find it in English or German, please  
point me in the right direction.


As an example I tried to record 3 minute wonder on CH4HD, it's a  
filler programme so on at all kinds of times, got the first one then  
who knows what that was on at the same time from then on.


I really like the simplicity and robustness of vdr compared to the  
sprawling disjointed MythTV, I'm hoping I've missed a few tricks along  
the way or the things that cause me hassle are simple enough for me to  
patch, if pushed in the right direction.


Any advice greatly appreciated.

Andre

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Re: [vdr] Switching from MythTV to VDR

2009-10-14 Thread Magnus Hörlin


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 Ämne: [vdr] Switching from MythTV to VDR
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm looking for some pointers on VDR coming from a MythTV history. I'm
 happy with most of the MythTV features but not the stability or the
 playback image quality, I've been using MythTV as my only TV recorder
 for some years.
 I got around the image quality issues by using a PS3 for playback and
 have monit restarting mythtv-backend or mysql for me when it falls over.
 
 I have a vdr 1.7.8 on Ubuntu system running to try out, a long term
 vdr user German friend helped me get started with vdr as I found lots
 of things only really discussed or documented in German, I got past
 that and learned a little German, I now seem to be able to find most
 things but not all
 These are my questions and my friend does not know and cannot find me
 solutions, googling hasn't given me any answers and I've been reading
 this list for some time too.
 
 I don't have a full featured card, I tried to buy one at first but
 they don't seem to exist any more, I have a HVR4000 in my test PC, oh
 and I'm not really very interested in SDTV or analog TV, only HDTV. I
 am in the UK but have a system looking at 28E, 19E and 13E as well as
 local DVBT. The PC has an Nvidia 9400gt so VDPAU is possible, I have
 tried it through MythTV and standalone mplayer but I'm not very
 impressed with the image quality, I'll stick with the PS3 for now.
 
 Good stuff is mature DVBS2 support, bomb proof stability, sky and
 freesat epg, sc, vdr-admin, static network protocol, live streaming.
 
 In general I find that if vdr has a feature, it works really well.
 
 My problems, not many but they are stoppers.
 
 No ITVHD, I tried the fixed pid and turn off updates workaround but it
 didn't work for me, not so important as I suspect red button ITVHD
 will be history in a couple of months, not like I'd be missing many
 programmes anyway!
 
 no uPnP
 Ok have fixed this by running mediatomb pointed at the media
 directory, performance is great (better than MythTV's built in uPnP)
 but vdr's naming convention and file splitting makes this a mess. I
 was pointed to the max file size setting but this is only 2GB as a max
 or is it 4GB, either way even a 1 hour HDTV show on a low bitrate
 channel has several files.
 I get a very very long list of files all called 1 2 etc. to
 navigate through! Ok there's useful switches to make the directories
 more meaningful but that means a lot of digging through the file
 structure from the PS3 menu, not ideal.
 
 Timers, I'm used to MythTV's record programme XXX on any channel at
 any time flexibility which follows programme reschedules, new series
 starting without me knowing, all kinds of good stuff that I now take
 for granted. vdr seems to set the timer for a channel and a time like
 an ordinary PVR or VCR with EPG. If there's a plugin that takes this
 up a level I'm struggling to find it in English or German, please
 point me in the right direction.
 
 As an example I tried to record 3 minute wonder on CH4HD, it's a
 filler programme so on at all kinds of times, got the first one then
 who knows what that was on at the same time from then on.
 
 I really like the simplicity and robustness of vdr compared to the
 sprawling disjointed MythTV, I'm hoping I've missed a few tricks along
 the way or the things that cause me hassle are simple enough for me to
 patch, if pushed in the right direction.
 
 Any advice greatly appreciated.
 
 Andre
 
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Re: [vdr] Switching from MythTV to VDR

2009-10-14 Thread Luca Olivetti

En/na Andre Newman ha escrit:

No ITVHD, I tried the fixed pid and turn off updates workaround but it 
didn't work for me, not so important as I suspect red button ITVHD will 
be history in a couple of months, not like I'd be missing many 
programmes anyway!


I have autoupdates enabled, with one bogus entry for the autoupdated 
itvhd and one with a different id (nid, tid? I don't remember) that 
won't be autoupdated.

These are the channels.conf lines for itvhd:

The good one:

Itv hd;BSkyB:11426:hC23M2O0S0:S28.2E:27500:3401:0;3402=eng:0:0:6969:0:0:0


The bad one:

Itv hd;BSkyB:11426:hC23M2O0S0:S28.2E:27500:0:0;3402=eng:0:0:10510:0:0:69



Bye
--
Luca

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Re: [vdr] Switching from MythTV to VDR

2009-10-14 Thread Andre Newman


On 14 Oct 2009, at 16:02, Luca Olivetti wrote:


En/na Andre Newman ha escrit:

No ITVHD, I tried the fixed pid and turn off updates workaround but  
it didn't work for me, not so important as I suspect red button  
ITVHD will be history in a couple of months, not like I'd be  
missing many programmes anyway!


I have autoupdates enabled, with one bogus entry for the autoupdated  
itvhd and one with a different id (nid, tid? I don't remember) that  
won't be autoupdated.

These are the channels.conf lines for itvhd:

The good one:

Itv hd;BSkyB:11426:hC23M2O0S0:S28.2E:27500:3401:0;3402=eng: 
0:0:6969:0:0:0



The bad one:

Itv hd;BSkyB:11426:hC23M2O0S0:S28.2E:27500:0:0;3402=eng: 
0:0:10510:0:0:69


Thanks, I'll give that a try, I found some similar (but not identical)  
lines at the time which didn't work for me.


Now to rebuild my vdr test box, the disk failed a couple of weeks  
ago :-(

I see 1.7.9 is around now too.

Andre

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Re: [vdr] Switching from MythTV to VDR

2009-10-14 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Andre Newman v...@dinkum.org.uk wrote:
 I'm looking for some pointers on VDR coming from a MythTV history. I'm happy
 with most of the MythTV features but not the stability or the playback image
 quality, I've been using MythTV as my only TV recorder for some years.

Congratulations on finally UPGRADING your tv software!! ;)

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