Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync

2011-12-26 Thread gimli
Two things to mention about vaapi :

1.) Use xf86-video-intel-2.15.0
2.) Forget sxfe in combination with vaapi. sxfe plays bad tricks with the
stream and is not able to do a clean reinitialize of the output when the
stream is changing.


On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:44:42 +0200, j...@mbnet.fi wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:14:05PM +0100, Nicolas Huillard wrote:
 I have the same issue on SandyBridge (vdr 1.7.22-1~ctvdr2,
 xineliboutput-sxfe 1.0.7+cvs20111211.1625-1).
 Are there some news since then ?
 
 I built a new SandyBridge-based VDR-machine last May and
 was sorely disappointed by the intel video drivers. My
 initial solution was an old nvidia card, but about a month
 ago I finally found a tear-free combination of drivers
 and settings.
 
 .xine/config_xineliboutput:
 video.output.opengl_renderer:2D_Tex
 
 vdr-sxfe --video=opengl
 
 I run a gentoo system and the following versions are
 propably relevant:
 
 x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.17.0-r3
 media-libs/xine-lib-1.2.
 
 Vdr is 1.7.22, xineliboutput is from cvs and I do not
 use compositing or even a window manager.
 
 
 HTH and YMMV

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Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync

2011-12-26 Thread Tony Houghton
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:43:42 +0100
gimli gi...@dark-green.com wrote:

 Two things to mention about vaapi :
 
 1.) Use xf86-video-intel-2.15.0

Do you mean at least 2.15, or are there problems with later versions
like 2.17?

 2.) Forget sxfe in combination with vaapi. sxfe plays bad tricks with
 the stream and is not able to do a clean reinitialize of the output
 when the stream is changing.

Another issue is compositing. This is the future of window management
and some people like (OK, tolerate) GNOME 3 and even Unity, so saying,
Don't use compositing isn't good enough long term IMO. On my Ion
2-based nettop I can watch video in GNOME 3 OK, but I'm not sure vsync
works with it OK on my NVidia 8200-based HTPC. I don't mind using xfce4
on that for now, because I don't use it for much else. But I've got two
other machines with Intel graphics on which I'd rather use GNOME 3 than
xfce4 and still be able to watch video without tearing, and I haven't
managed that so far :-(.

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Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync

2011-12-26 Thread gimli
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:43:59 +, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:43:42 +0100
 gimli gi...@dark-green.com wrote:
 
 Two things to mention about vaapi :
 
 1.) Use xf86-video-intel-2.15.0
 
 Do you mean at least 2.15, or are there problems with later versions
 like 2.17?
 
 2.) Forget sxfe in combination with vaapi. sxfe plays bad tricks with
 the stream and is not able to do a clean reinitialize of the output
 when the stream is changing.
 
 Another issue is compositing. This is the future of window management
 and some people like (OK, tolerate) GNOME 3 and even Unity, so saying,
 Don't use compositing isn't good enough long term IMO. On my Ion
 2-based nettop I can watch video in GNOME 3 OK, but I'm not sure vsync
 works with it OK on my NVidia 8200-based HTPC. I don't mind using xfce4
 on that for now, because I don't use it for much else. But I've got two
 other machines with Intel graphics on which I'd rather use GNOME 3 than
 xfce4 and still be able to watch video without tearing, and I haven't
 managed that so far :-(.

This issue you have to clearly bug at the intel developers at
freedesktop.org.

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Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync

2011-12-25 Thread jjtt
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:14:05PM +0100, Nicolas Huillard wrote:
 I have the same issue on SandyBridge (vdr 1.7.22-1~ctvdr2,
 xineliboutput-sxfe 1.0.7+cvs20111211.1625-1).
 Are there some news since then ?

I built a new SandyBridge-based VDR-machine last May and
was sorely disappointed by the intel video drivers. My
initial solution was an old nvidia card, but about a month
ago I finally found a tear-free combination of drivers
and settings.

.xine/config_xineliboutput:
video.output.opengl_renderer:2D_Tex

vdr-sxfe --video=opengl

I run a gentoo system and the following versions are
propably relevant:

x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.17.0-r3
media-libs/xine-lib-1.2.

Vdr is 1.7.22, xineliboutput is from cvs and I do not
use compositing or even a window manager.


HTH and YMMV

-- 
Juho Törmä

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Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync

2011-12-24 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Le jeudi 03 novembre 2011 à 20:57 +, Tony Houghton a écrit :
 On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:00:10 +0200
 prelude prel...@kapsi.fi wrote:
 
  This maybe help:
  http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/vga-sync-fields/README
 
 No, that's so you can slightly adjust the rate at which the display is
 refreshed to match the rate at which you're receiving the stream. That's
 a non-issue if you can't sync your frame changes to the refresh!

I have the same issue on SandyBridge (vdr 1.7.22-1~ctvdr2,
xineliboutput-sxfe 1.0.7+cvs20111211.1625-1).
Are there some news since then ?

-- 
NH


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Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync

2011-11-03 Thread prelude

This maybe help:
http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/vga-sync-fields/README



On 11/01/2011 07:01 PM, Tony Houghton wrote:

When using NVidia graphics cards and the proprietary driver I find
vdr-sxfe looks quite smooth even with a monitor that only supports 60Hz.
I think it's been syncing to the vertical blank automagically. But
with other graphics cards I get a lot of tearing which is marring my
viewing pleasure. This is happening both with Intel Sandy Bridge (normal
monitor) and a Radeon 5450 with fglrx connected to a TV. The free ati
driver isn't a practical option on that because the HDMI audio doesn't
work with it. I'm using the xv output in each case. Is there a way to
make vdr-sxfe sync to the vertical blank with these cards/drivers?

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Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync

2011-11-03 Thread Tony Houghton
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:00:10 +0200
prelude prel...@kapsi.fi wrote:

 This maybe help:
 http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/vga-sync-fields/README

No, that's so you can slightly adjust the rate at which the display is
refreshed to match the rate at which you're receiving the stream. That's
a non-issue if you can't sync your frame changes to the refresh!

 On 11/01/2011 07:01 PM, Tony Houghton wrote:
  When using NVidia graphics cards and the proprietary driver I find
  vdr-sxfe looks quite smooth even with a monitor that only supports
  60Hz. I think it's been syncing to the vertical blank
  automagically. But with other graphics cards I get a lot of
  tearing which is marring my viewing pleasure. This is happening
  both with Intel Sandy Bridge (normal monitor) and a Radeon 5450
  with fglrx connected to a TV. The free ati driver isn't a practical
  option on that because the HDMI audio doesn't work with it. I'm
  using the xv output in each case. Is there a way to make vdr-sxfe
  sync to the vertical blank with these cards/drivers?
 
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[vdr] sxfe and vsync

2011-11-01 Thread Tony Houghton
When using NVidia graphics cards and the proprietary driver I find
vdr-sxfe looks quite smooth even with a monitor that only supports 60Hz.
I think it's been syncing to the vertical blank automagically. But
with other graphics cards I get a lot of tearing which is marring my
viewing pleasure. This is happening both with Intel Sandy Bridge (normal
monitor) and a Radeon 5450 with fglrx connected to a TV. The free ati
driver isn't a practical option on that because the HDMI audio doesn't
work with it. I'm using the xv output in each case. Is there a way to
make vdr-sxfe sync to the vertical blank with these cards/drivers?

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