Re: [vdr] Request for rotor integration to vdr

2010-06-30 Thread Timothy D. Lenz

While poking around on the net I found this old thread from 2004:
http://www.linuxtv.org/mailinglists/vdr/2004/01-2004/msg00848.html

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Re: [vdr] Request for rotor integration to vdr

2010-06-30 Thread ajurik
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 22:45:53 Timothy D. Lenz wrote:
 While poking around on the net I found this old thread from 2004:
 http://www.linuxtv.org/mailinglists/vdr/2004/01-2004/msg00848.html
 
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Hi,

I'm using patch for gotox with vdr and motor for a long time without problem. 
Original patch is from Seppo Ingalsuo is here - 
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2008-March/016164.html. Last version of 
patch is here (for vdr-1.7.13-1.7.15) - 
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2010-March/022561.html.

BR,

Ales

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Re: [vdr] Request for rotor integration to vdr

2010-06-24 Thread Luca Olivetti

Al 23/06/10 23:04, En/na Timothy D. Lenz ha escrit:


I also looked at the Actuator plugin because I am interested in getting
something going with c-band and thought maybe it included rotor
commands. Don't it does, doesn't look like it's been updated since
vdr-1.6.0,


Hi, I didn't update the released version (it seems there are only two 
users of the plugin), but I'm using it with vdr 1.7.15 (with the 
transponder tuning and channel scanning commented out, I don't have much 
time or need to work on that).



and requires a custom kernel module. I don't mind building
custom electronics and was planing to anyway. But I don't want to have
to hack code into the kernel.


It's a really simple out of tree module, you don't need to hack the 
kernel, just to compile the module and insmod it.

It hasn't caused me any problem in the many years I have used it.
BTW, the module uses a parallel port, and since these are becoming 
difficult to find, I wrote another, unreleased, one that uses a serial 
port (even an usb to serial adapter should work).
Of course I'm not (still) using it in production, so it's not as tested 
as the one using the parallel port.



I think they have boxes that provide
actuator control from rotor diseqc commands anyway which brings us back
to including it.


Well, yes, but I'm cheap and I preferred to spend 5€ in components 
tucked inside the computer instead of buying a 100€ v-box, have another 
box laying around and having less control over the whole positioning 
process.


Bye
--
Luca

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Re: [vdr] Request for rotor integration to vdr

2010-06-24 Thread Timothy D. Lenz



On 6/24/2010 1:37 AM, Luca Olivetti wrote:

It's a really simple out of tree module, you don't need to hack the
kernel, just to compile the module and insmod it.
It hasn't caused me any problem in the many years I have used it.
BTW, the module uses a parallel port, and since these are becoming
difficult to find, I wrote another, unreleased, one that uses a serial
port (even an usb to serial adapter should work).
Of course I'm not (still) using it in production, so it's not as tested
as the one using the parallel port.


I looked on mine and while it doesn't have a port on the back, it does 
have a header on the board. If intel had their way, there'd  be not 
floppy, parallel or serial ports on any new board :(. With a serial 
port, the data stream could be brought out to parallel giving you 8 pins.



Well, yes, but I'm cheap and I preferred to spend 5€ in components
tucked inside the computer instead of buying a 100€ v-box, have another
box laying around and having less control over the whole positioning
process.


I'm cheap too, that's why I'm thinking about home made rotors moving 
cone antennas made of foam covered with foil and maybe fiberglass. Light 
so a faster rotor could be made, and 2-3 of those should be cheaper then 
an array of dishes, lnb's and switches. Plus cone antennas they say 
don't have the rain fade problem. Only problem I might run into is I 
want to do C-band also and while for Ku the cones end up being smaller 
then a dish, I'm hearing that to make it work on in c-band, the length 
is measured in yards instead of inches. We'll see.


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Re: [vdr] Request for rotor integration to vdr

2010-06-24 Thread Luca Olivetti

Al 24/06/10 20:18, En/na Timothy D. Lenz ha escrit:



On 6/24/2010 1:37 AM, Luca Olivetti wrote:

It's a really simple out of tree module, you don't need to hack the
kernel, just to compile the module and insmod it.
It hasn't caused me any problem in the many years I have used it.
BTW, the module uses a parallel port, and since these are becoming
difficult to find, I wrote another, unreleased, one that uses a serial
port (even an usb to serial adapter should work).
Of course I'm not (still) using it in production, so it's not as tested
as the one using the parallel port.


I looked on mine and while it doesn't have a port on the back, it does
have a header on the board. If intel had their way, there'd be not
floppy, parallel or serial ports on any new board :(. With a serial
port, the data stream could be brought out to parallel giving you 8 pins.


My implementation doesn't use the data stream, it just uses the control 
pins of the serial port (RTS as rotate west output, DTR as rotate east 
output and CTS as the pulse counter input).


Bye
--
Luca

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Re: [vdr] Request for rotor integration to vdr

2010-06-24 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
I mean any comunication between computer and device. Serial sends 8 bits 
at a time too, just have to decode/encode it out


On 6/24/2010 1:01 PM, Luca Olivetti wrote:

Al 24/06/10 20:18, En/na Timothy D. Lenz ha escrit:



On 6/24/2010 1:37 AM, Luca Olivetti wrote:

It's a really simple out of tree module, you don't need to hack the
kernel, just to compile the module and insmod it.
It hasn't caused me any problem in the many years I have used it.
BTW, the module uses a parallel port, and since these are becoming
difficult to find, I wrote another, unreleased, one that uses a serial
port (even an usb to serial adapter should work).
Of course I'm not (still) using it in production, so it's not as tested
as the one using the parallel port.


I looked on mine and while it doesn't have a port on the back, it does
have a header on the board. If intel had their way, there'd be not
floppy, parallel or serial ports on any new board :(. With a serial
port, the data stream could be brought out to parallel giving you 8 pins.


My implementation doesn't use the data stream, it just uses the control
pins of the serial port (RTS as rotate west output, DTR as rotate east
output and CTS as the pulse counter input).

Bye


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Re: [vdr] Request for rotor integration to vdr

2010-06-23 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com wrote:
 The rotor plugin doesn't seem to be maintained anymore and was always
 somewhat of a hack to vdr. Seems to me rotor control should really be a part
 of vdr diseqc control code. Just about every sat box out there includes
 rotor control function.

I've seen numerous people make the same request and although I don't
use a rotor myself, I do agree support for it should be included in
vanilla VDR as it's a basic common function  equipment.  I'll guess
that if enough people reply to this thread that Klaus may add it to
his TODO list (assuming it isn't there already).

 I would also like to see it be able to handle a rotor per card. Not much
 point in having several sat tuners if they all have to look at the same sat.

I'm sure if Klaus decides to implement this, he'll do it in such a way
that makes the most sense  flexibile usability to maximize the
benefit of adding it.  No point in adding more functionality if you
leave it crippled. :)

Cheers

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