Re: Velosurf 2.0

2006-11-10 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Congratulations, Claude--

looks really nice!

(obviously you meant the link below:
http://velosurf.sourceforge.net
)

WILL

On 11/10/06, Claude Brisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Velosurf 2.0 has just been released.

Velosurf is a database mapping layer for the Apache Velocity template
engine. It provides automatic database mapping of tables and
relationships without any code generation. In the context of a Webapp,
it also provides handy tools for authentication, localization, and forms
validation.

Homepage: http://velosurf.sourrceforge.net

  Claude



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Re: [ANN] Restlet now supports Velocity

2006-11-10 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Sounds very slick.  Is Restlet in our Powered By Velocity wiki page?
Feel free to add it.

WILL

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Hi all,

Restlet, a lightweight REST framework for Java, now natively supports
Velocity templates. This feature was added in our latest 1.0 beta 20
release.

Here is a summary of the main features:
  * REST concepts have equivalent Java classes (resource,
representation, connector, etc.)
  * Suitable for both client and server Web applications
  * Automatic server-side content negotiation based on media type
and language preferences
  * Static file serving and editing with metadata association based
on file extensions
  * Support for representations like JSON, XML (DOM or SAX),
FreeMarker templates (alternative to JSP)
  * Server connectors for HTTP, HTTPS and AJP (for Apache or IIS)
protocols
  * Client connectors for HTTP, HTTPS, SMTP, JDBC and FILE protocols
  * Routers support the concept of URIs as UI with advanced pattern
matching features
  * Filters support features such as authorization, browser
tunnelling and extraction of call attributes
  * Support of HTTP Basic and Amazon Web Services authentication schemes
  * Deployment as native services using Java Service Wrapper
  * Supports blocking and non-blocking NIO modes
  * Clean Restlet API as a full alternative to the Servlet API
  * Noelios Restlet Engine (NRE) is the Reference Implementation
(provided by Noelios Consulting)

Project home page:
http://www.restlet.org

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Re: graph

2006-11-07 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi,

JFreeChart seems to be the most popular Java open source graphing tool.
http://www.jfree.org/jfreechart/

I've used KavaCharts, which is as inexpensive commercial option
http://www.ve.com/kavachart/index.html

And here is a HTML-only graphing library
http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/chart/chart.html

Will

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I have a turbine/torque/velocity application.
I want to add some graphs to the web page. The data will be retrieved
from the DB. Is there any tools out there to do the job?
What kind of tool do you use to create a graph? Is there any
recommendations?
Thanks a lot for your help.

Jill



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Re: set directive and CSS syntax

2006-11-05 Thread Will Glass-Husain

The Velocity syntax looks ok to me.  The quotes don't matter, they are
outside of the reference.

On 11/3/06, Timothy Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So we have set a bunch of variables to use as inline CSS directives
in HTML emails.

For example:

#set( $div_header = height: 125px; padding: 0 10px 0 0; color:
#13aaf3; background: white url('${IMAGE_SERVER}/path/to/image') top
left repeat-x; font-size: 18px;)

Note that the url is single quoted. I noted this was a problem and
removed them, leaving:

#set( $div_header = height: 125px; padding: 0 10px 0 0; color:
#13aaf3; background: white url(${IMAGE_SERVER}/path/to/image) top
left repeat-x; font-size: 18px;)

This did not seem to correct the problem we are having and I'm
attributing it to the
url(${IMAGE_SERVER}/path/to/image) portion itself.

Is Velocity misinterpreting the url() call as a VM, or something else?

Thanks,
Tim

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Re: bizarre ClassNotFoundException when running in Eclipse

2006-10-23 Thread Will Glass-Husain

You can get odd behavior with 1.4 when running Velocity from a jar
outside of the application classpath.  For example, having the
velocity jar in a container while the calling app is in a webapp.

We've fixed this with upcoming release 1.5  (download the beta
http://people.apache.org/dist/jakarta/velocity/v1.5beta1/ ).  Now it
searches for all plugins, templates etc in the ThreadContext classpath
first.  The result is much more intuitive behavior in these type of
circumstances.

WILL

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Hi,

I have a project using Velocity 1.4 that I'm working on from Eclipse
3.2.1.  In my project path I have a directory called 'lib' which
contains velocity-dep-1.4.jar.  I have velocity-dep-1.4.jar added as
an external jar to my project (I've also tried as a non-external jar).
 I'm using the following velocity.properties:

resource.loader = classpath

classpath.resource.loader.description = Velocity Classpath Resource Loader
classpath.resource.loader.class =
org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.loader.ClasspathResourceLoader

When I run init(...) from org.apache.velocity.app.Velocity I get the
following error:

java.lang.Exception: Problem initializing template loader:
org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.loader.ClasspathResourceLoader
Error is: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
org/apache/velocity/runtime/resource/loader/ClasspathResourceLoader
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.loader.ResourceLoaderFactory.getLoader(ResourceLoaderFactory.java:41)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.ResourceManagerImpl.initialize(ResourceManagerImpl.java:142)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.RuntimeInstance.initializeResourceManager(RuntimeInstance.java:522)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.RuntimeInstance.init(RuntimeInstance.java:227)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.RuntimeInstance.init(RuntimeInstance.java:461)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.RuntimeSingleton.init(RuntimeSingleton.java:208)
at org.apache.velocity.app.Velocity.init(Velocity.java:106)
at com.ctk.index.AirsIndexer.init(AirsIndexer.java:75)
at com.ctk.index.AirsParser.main(AirsParser.java:62)

at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.loader.ResourceLoaderFactory.getLoader(ResourceLoaderFactory.java:56)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.ResourceManagerImpl.initialize(ResourceManagerImpl.java:142)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.RuntimeInstance.initializeResourceManager(RuntimeInstance.java:522)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.RuntimeInstance.init(RuntimeInstance.java:227)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.RuntimeInstance.init(RuntimeInstance.java:461)
at 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.RuntimeSingleton.init(RuntimeSingleton.java:208)
at org.apache.velocity.app.Velocity.init(Velocity.java:106)
at com.ctk.index.AirsIndexer.init(AirsIndexer.java:75)
at com.ctk.index.AirsParser.main(AirsParser.java:62)

But here is the strange part.  In my main function if I call
Class.forName(org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.loader.ClasspathResourceLoader)
it works and loads the class.  Even if I call Class.forName before
Velocity.init, I still get the error.

I know this could be something pretty simple or fundamental I'm
missing.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

Additional info:
Windows XP
JRE 1.5_09

Thank you,
Robby Walker

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Re: Which variables are involved in a template?

2006-10-19 Thread Will Glass-Husain

The latest version of Velocity (1.5) has an event handler
InvalidReferenceEventHandler that allows you to capture bad
references.  It's not yet documented but you can read the docs on
event handlers, then look at the javadocs for this specific one.

It's available in svn, we'll do a beta release soon.

WILL

On 10/19/06, Matthias Hendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Javier,

just an idea.
Perhaps you can use the velocity log mechanism to get the information.
In version 1.4 (in v1.5 the API is a bit different I think) you can
write your own logging class for velocity. So there you can parse the log 
messages.
It's more a dirty solution, I think. Hopefully the developers have a better 
idea. :-)

Ciao Matthias




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Datum: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:37:43 +0200
Von: Javier Velez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
Betreff: Which variables are involved in a template?

 Hi,

 I am developing a tool using velocity. In my application the user write
 down a template and then it is evaluated within a velocity context. But
 somtimes not all variables in template are found in the context. So I
 need a mechanism to recognize which variables could not be resolved.

 One solution is evaluate once the template and then parse it looking for
 string maching with $ or ${}. My question is: Is there any other
 more straitforward mechanism within the velocity API that give me the
 list of unsolved variables? Or at least, is there a method in velocity
 API that returns the list of referenced variables witin a template?

 Thanks in forward.

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Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue

2006-10-15 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Robin,

I set up a test server and duplicated this issue.  Here's the
specifics of what's going on with a suggested solution (long email).

By default, the Tomcat security manager policy prohibits reflection on
classes in the org.catalina hierarchy.  This prevents web apps from
instantiating internal classes and doing things it shouldn't be doing.

When you write a JSP page that calls %= request.getSession().getId()
%  this is literally compiled into a class.  Since the code is called
directly, it works fine.

As a contrast, when Velocity calls $request.session.id it uses
reflection.  Since the $request reference is actually implemented by
org.apache.catalina.connector.RequestFacade (in Tomcat 5.5) any method
calls using reflection throw a security exception.

There are two possible solutions.

(1) Your hosting provider should add the following to the security
policy.  Note it is very specific - just applies to the two velocity
jars.  You'll need to change the path to match your webapp.

grant codeBase 
file:${catalina.home}/webapps/simple/WEB-INF/lib/velocity-1.4.jar
{
permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.connector;
  permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.session;
  permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core;
};


grant codeBase 
file:${catalina.home}/webapps/simple/WEB-INF/lib/velocity-tools-view-1.2.jar
{
permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.connector;
permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.session;
  permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core;
};

(2) You can create your own implementations of HttpServletRequest and
HttpSession that simply delegate to the app server versions.  Since
your classes are outside of the org.catalina hierarchy there will be
no reflection-related security issues.  Then add your new wrapper to
the context with the same name request.

To sum up, this issue is due to the use of reflection by Velocity and
a strict security policy in Tomcat.  Either changing the security
policy or changing the target of the reflection would solve the
problem.

I'm going to post a JIRA issue to the Velocity Tools list suggesting
that the project add a wrapper for $request to eliminate this issue.

Best, WILL

On 10/13/06, Robin Mannering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Will,

Originally, any request to the $request object were just being ignored (or
were throwing security exceptions).  So the Velocity page just output
$request into the HTML.

He then granted permission on the below package uisng the security manager
and the request object was then 'working' although it was putting out the
incorrect values.  The exceptions in the log then disappeared.

Then, he ran the application without the Security manager and the $request
object had expected values for methods such $request.contextPath and
$request.session.id and everything worked fine.

I'm unfamiliar with Security Managers, shall I ask him to apply just this
one? (This has no reference to Velocity classes does it?)

java.lang.RuntimePermission accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core

As an extra, do you know of a hosting company that has established clients
using Velocity?  I might do well to move somewhere with direct experience of
hosting with velocity.

Thanks for all your help
Robin


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Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue

2006-10-12 Thread Will Glass-Husain

I'll play around with this.  Might be a day or so.

On 10/11/06, Robin Mannering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

Sorry I forgot the velocity version: Velocity 1.4

From: Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:54:51 -0700

One more question.  What's your platform
-- version of Tomcat
-- version of JDK
-- Win, Linux, etc?

(and to repeat the last email for redundancy)
-- VelocityServlet or VelocityViewServlet (with version)

I run an instance of Tomcat with a security policy.  I've found
numerous inconsistencies even within Tomcat that require security
permissions to be opened up.  (There was a bug with the 4.1.x series
for example for which I had to open up something similar).

I tend to think you've hit a Tomcat bug triggered by the way Velocity
accesses the request object.  Send the info back and we can dig into
this.

WILL

On 10/11/06, Robin Mannering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, some more logging that might make it clearer.

My local machine uses request objects:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Whereas the hosted server with the problem uses:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Log 1 - From action class running on hosted server
--
11-Oct 17:52:49.647 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
11-Oct 17:52:49.648 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getContextPath() = ''
11-Oct 17:52:49.648 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getMethod() = 'GET'
11-Oct 17:52:49.649 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getSession().getId() = '28536F4542A222DC6F0E6DE23442DC6D'
11-Oct 17:52:49.650 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getRequestURI() = '/test.htm'
11-Oct 17:52:49.650 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getRequestURL() = 'http://www.chaletexplorer.com/test.htm'
11-Oct 17:52:49.651 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getServletPath() = '/test.htm'


Log 2 - From VM Template/page running on hosted server
--
request = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
request.contextPath = '/'
request.method = 'GET'
request.session.id = '$request.session.id'
request.requestURI = '//test.vm'
request.requestURL = 'http://www.chaletexplorer.com//test.vm'
request.servletPath = '/test.vm'


Log 3 - From action class (running on my local machine)
---

12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getContextPath() = '/indy'
12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getMethod() = 'GET'
12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getSession().getId() = '79E50B9B3F25A2897BF420521952D51F'
12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getRequestURI() = '/indy/test.htm'
12-Oct 00:10:17.532 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getRequestURL() = 'http://localhost:8080/indy/test.htm'
12-Oct 00:10:17.532 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getServletPath() = '/test.htm'


Log 4 - From VM Template/page (running on my local machine)
---
request = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
request.contextPath = '/indy'
request.method = 'GET'
request.session.id = '79E50B9B3F25A2897BF420521952D51F'
request.requestURI = '/indy/test.vm'
request.requestURL = 'http://localhost:8080/indy/test.htm'
request.servletPath = '/test.vm'



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 From: Robin Mannering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
 To: velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:08:29 +
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone shed some light? I have some more facts now
 
 The original problem was Velocity required permission on a core package
 within catalina. Is this because it couldn't find the 'correct' request
 object.
 
 Here are some logs, the first is from a Struts action class,  the second
is
 output from the velocity template forwarded to immediately after the
action
 class.  They refer to different request objects that ultimately give
 different values. Should the velocity template not also refer to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??
 
 Any help/clues would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Log 1 - From action class
 --
 11-Oct 17:52:49.647 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
  | request = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 11-Oct 17:52:49.648 |DEBUG

Re: simple question 2

2006-10-11 Thread Will Glass-Husain

The + operator for string concatenation is available in 1.5.  You can
download the beta

I prefer Christopher's solution, myself.

WILL

On 10/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As simple as this:
#set( $products=$products,$user.productName )

See more at:
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/docs/user-guide.html#String%20Concatenation

I do remember having seen the +-operator implemented
for string concatenation, can someone geve me a pointer
or state if 1.5 will have this enabled?

Cheers,
Christoph

P.S. to create a string with a comma separated list I use:
#set( $sep =  )
#set( $string= )
#foreach( $item in $list )
#set( $string=$string$sep$item )
#set( $sep = ,  )
#end

Arkadiusz Ryćkowski wrote:
 --- Oryginalna wiadomość ---
 Od: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Do: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Wysłano: 2006-10-11 13:35:31
 Temat: Re: simple question

 your string matches Velocity semantics up to the (,
 and that is why the parser has trouble witch what comes
 afterwards.

 Just replace the initial $ to soothe the barking parser:
 #set( $D = '$' )
 

 Many thanks
 Last question, how to do sth like
 #set ($products=$products + , + $user.productName)
 I'v tried i.e.
 #set ($products=$products${COMMA}$user.productName)
 and $products.concat($user.productName) but without expected effect

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Re: Running forumdemo sample on Tomcat 5.5

2006-10-11 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Unfortunately, the Forum example is rather dated, and applies to older
versions of Tomcat.  We've dropped it in the upcoming release and in
fact have deprecated VelocityServlet (which it is based on).

We suggest you download the subproject Velocity Tools which has
improved support for webapps, and contains a tutorial of its own. See
this URL for some more info on using Velocity with webapps.
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/webapps.html

Will

On 10/11/06, Nils, Maratron.ch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello

I have done this as explained in the README.txt:

1. Build the demo by running ./build-velocity.sh forumdemo
2. Drop the WAR (forumdemo.war) made in the Velocity bin into your Tomcat 
webapps directory.
3. Start Tomcat ( this will expand the forumdemo.war
4. Point your browser to http://yourhost.com/forumdemo

now I can go to http://yourhost.com/forumdemo where the main entrance shows ok, 
but if I want to see the posts or post it I get:

description The requested resource (/forumdemo/servlet/forum) is not available.

Is that cause I built forumdemo.war with ant examples and not 
./build-velocity.sh forumdemo (which doesnt do anything on windows anyways)?







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Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue

2006-10-11 Thread Will Glass-Husain
|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getRequestURL() = 'http://www.chaletexplorer.com/test.htm'
11-Oct 17:52:49.651 |DEBUG|TestAction.executeLogic
 | request.getServletPath() = '/test.htm'

Log 2 - From VM Template/page
-
request = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

request.contextPath = '/'

request.method = 'GET'

request.session.id = '$request.session.id'

request.requestURI = '//test.vm'

request.requestURL = 'http://www.chaletexplorer.com//test.vm'

request.servletPath = '/test.vm'







From: Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:25:35 -0700

I don't think it's Velocity which requires that permission, I'm
guessing it's the request object which is ultimately provided by
Tomcat...

WILL

On 10/11/06, Robin Mannering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Will,

Thanks for the links, I'll give them a thorough read.

I've been working with the hosting company who set up the server config
and
they have give the application permission to org.apache.catalina.core
although they are troubled to do so.

They seem very surprised that velocity requires this permission.

Since they granted the permission, the problem has cleared up and
$request.contextPath now has a value within a velocity template (although
this has changed from an empty value to '/' so I need to make source
amendments.  Not a problem, just worrying it takes on a new value in a
different hosting environment.

Thanks again for your help
Robin


 From: Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
 To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:04:32 -0700
 
 What app server are you using?  This is a server configuration issue.
 If someone else set it up, you might also want to work with them.
 
 If you're using Tomcat, check out:
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/security-manager-howto.html
 
 And you should read the Sun docs at:
 http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/security/permissions.html
 
 WILL
 
 On 10/10/06, Robin Mannering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Will,
 
 thanks for your help. Sorry. I'm new to permissions, could you explain
a
 little more for me please.
 
 Thanks
 Robin
 
 
  From: Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
  To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
  Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:24:57 -0700
  
  Looks like the security policy on your app server needs to be tuned.
  Have you tried giving the permission java.lang.RuntimePermission for
  accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core?
  
  WILL
  
  On 10/10/06, Robin Mannering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I'm new back on this list in a while, please excuse if the
following
  problem
  is obvious/has been posted before.
  
  I am transferring an existing site based on Struts/Velocity to a
new
 web
  hosting provider.  The application runs smoothly on its current
host.
  
  However, there seems to be one last stumbling block with the new
server
 in
  that the Struts object; 'request' appears not to be in scope within
  velocity
  pages (there may be others not in scope).
  
  I'm using the VelocityLayoutServlet if that helps.
  
  I've attached a snippet of the log file that points to the problem
I
  mentioned, notable the 'java.security.AccessControlException' and
  '$request.contextPath is not a valid reference'
  
  All other velocity directives appear to be functioning as normal.
  
  Has anyone seen this behaviour before? Any help would be greatly
  appreciated.
  
  Kind regards
  Robin
  
  10-Oct 02:45:21.752 |INFO |   [/].log
   |  Velocity   [info] ResourceManager : found
 /pages/frontend/home.vm
  with loader org.apache.velocity.tools.view.servlet.WebappLoader
  10-Oct 02:45:21.761 |INFO |   [/].log
   |  Velocity  [error] PROGRAMMER ERROR : PropertyExector() :
  java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
  (java.lang.RuntimePermission
  accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
  10-Oct 02:45:21.763 |INFO |   [/].log
   |  Velocity  [error] ASTIdentifier.execute() : identifier =
  contextPath
  : java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
  (java.lang.RuntimePermission
  accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
  10-Oct 02:45:21.764 |INFO |   [/].log
   |  Velocity  [error] RHS of #set statement is null. Context
will
 not
  be
  modified. /pages/frontend/home.vm [line 9, column 1]
  10-Oct 02:45:21.772 |INFO |   [/].log
   |  Velocity  [error] PROGRAMMER ERROR : PropertyExector

Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue

2006-10-10 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Looks like the security policy on your app server needs to be tuned.
Have you tried giving the permission java.lang.RuntimePermission for
accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core?

WILL

On 10/10/06, Robin Mannering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I'm new back on this list in a while, please excuse if the following problem
is obvious/has been posted before.

I am transferring an existing site based on Struts/Velocity to a new web
hosting provider.  The application runs smoothly on its current host.

However, there seems to be one last stumbling block with the new server in
that the Struts object; 'request' appears not to be in scope within velocity
pages (there may be others not in scope).

I'm using the VelocityLayoutServlet if that helps.

I've attached a snippet of the log file that points to the problem I
mentioned, notable the 'java.security.AccessControlException' and
'$request.contextPath is not a valid reference'

All other velocity directives appear to be functioning as normal.

Has anyone seen this behaviour before? Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Kind regards
Robin

10-Oct 02:45:21.752 |INFO |   [/].log
|  Velocity   [info] ResourceManager : found /pages/frontend/home.vm
with loader org.apache.velocity.tools.view.servlet.WebappLoader
10-Oct 02:45:21.761 |INFO |   [/].log
|  Velocity  [error] PROGRAMMER ERROR : PropertyExector() :
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.lang.RuntimePermission accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
10-Oct 02:45:21.763 |INFO |   [/].log
|  Velocity  [error] ASTIdentifier.execute() : identifier = contextPath
: java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.lang.RuntimePermission accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
10-Oct 02:45:21.764 |INFO |   [/].log
|  Velocity  [error] RHS of #set statement is null. Context will not be
modified. /pages/frontend/home.vm [line 9, column 1]
10-Oct 02:45:21.772 |INFO |   [/].log
|  Velocity  [error] PROGRAMMER ERROR : PropertyExector() :
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.lang.RuntimePermission accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
10-Oct 02:45:21.773 |INFO |   [/].log
|  Velocity  [error] ASTIdentifier.execute() : identifier = contextPath
: java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.lang.RuntimePermission accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
10-Oct 02:45:21.774 |INFO |   [/].log
|  Velocity   [warn]
org.apache.velocity.runtime.exception.ReferenceException: reference :
template = /pages/frontend/home.vm [line 32,column 34] :
$request.contextPath is not a valid reference.

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Re: [announcement] Click Framework 1.0 is now available

2006-10-05 Thread Will Glass-Husain

That's great to hear.  Look forward to checking the new release out.

On 10/4/06, Malcolm Edgar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,

Click Framework 1.0 is now available.

For the list of changes please see:

http://click.sourceforge.net/docs/roadmap-changes.html

This release includes lots of new examples.

www.avoka.com:8080/click-examples

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Re: help in calling a class in a velocity template

2006-09-29 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Noo...

#set($newobject = $foo.class.forName(myclass).newInstance())

is just not a good way of doing this.  It's error-prone, hard to read,
may not be supported in future versions of Velocity.  Instead, create
an instance of the object and put it into the context before Velocity
is called with
 context.put(newobject, new MyClass());

Note to Claude: I've got a new (simpler) Uberspector subclass that
addresses this.  I'm going to integrate it into 1.5 during our
Hackathon in two weeks.

WILL

On 9/29/06, Claude Brisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do you mean :

How to put a new instance of a class in the velocity context from
inside the vtl?

Usually, you put classes in the context using java
(context.put(name,object)), or using toolbox.xml if you rely on the
VelocityTools subproject.

Now, if you really want to load a new instance of a class in the context
from inside the VTL, you have the following hack:

#set($newobject = $foo.class.forName(myclass).newInstance())

where $foo can be any existing reference.

But this is really not a very clean coding style... Also, the class you
load must have a default constructor (otherwise it is still possible but
more complex).

By the way, dev people, why is this issue only scheduled for 1.6? Will's
patch seems to be ready in
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-179 and backward
compatible with proper default configuration value.

  Claude


Le vendredi 29 septembre 2006 à 10:27 -0400, sandesh makam a écrit :
 hi,
   Can any body tell me how i can call a class in a velocity template.
  I am trying to write a template which call a class that allows me to build
 a tree.

 thankyou


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Re: [HELP] anythings like AjaxAnywhere to integrate with Velocity?

2006-09-29 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi,

I'm not familiar with any Velocity specific AJAX libraries.  You can
however write a Velocity template to serve as a low-level AJAX
response.  Browse the archives of this list for some interesting
recent discussion on Velocity and AJAX.

WILL

On 9/29/06, Pham Anh Tuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I got a problem in executing the javascript code in the response which I got 
after ajax request.

I heard somewhere that there's HTML_AJAX, which can solve above problem, but
it is used for PHP, and the other one is AjaxAnywhere which is used for
Java, would you plz showing me anythingelse (like AjaxAnywhere, my web app
is Struts based application + Velocity).

but, as u knows, AjaxAnywhere requires u to put some AjaxAnywhere taglib in .vm 
file, but .. currently, Velocity doesn't quite support other taglib in .vm 
file... :|

help me, thanks in advance :)

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Re: AJAX and Velocity (again, building on the previous posts)

2006-09-25 Thread Will Glass-Husain

I use the prototype.js library.  Seems to improve productivity for
AJAX and Javascript work.  I like the Ajax.Updater method call which
can populate a div tag with a block of HTML loaded from a file.  (In
my case, often generated with Velocity).

WILL

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Re: Installing velocity

2006-09-25 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Are the examples files included with the binary?  We should change the
tutorial to skip this step if we can.

WILL

On 9/25/06, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ah.  You downloaded, the binary.  You need to download the source
distribution.

http://apache.gr-linux.com/jakarta/velocity-tools/source/velocity-tools-1.2-src.zip

I believe the tutorial says to get the source, though it probably just
mentioned it in passing, rather than making it clear.

On 9/25/06, Brenton Strine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is no file called build.xml in
 velocity-tools-1.2.zip anywhere. I even did a search. I
 *have* typed the ant commands in the root directory of
 the velocity tools. Maybe I'm confused about what the
 root directory is. I unzipped velocity tools into
 C:\vtools. (So that inside C:\vtools is a folder called
 velocity-tools-1.2.)I then opened the shell, navigated
 to C:\vtools, and typed the commands. I also navigated
 to C:\vtools\velocity-tools-1.2 and typed the ant
 commands.

 I also have tried doing this with the velocity tools
 unzipped in the same directory as I have velocity itself
 in.

 Brenton

 By the way, this is the zip I've been downloading.
 Perhaps I have the wrong file??
 http://apache.gr-linux.com/jakarta/velocity-tools/binarie
 s/velocity-tools-1.2.zip



 -Original Message-
 From: Nathan Bubna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:49 PM
 To: Velocity Users List
 Subject: Re: Installing velocity

 Where is the build.xml?  Your command prompt should be
 working in the directory where the build.xml file is for
 ant to find it.  So, after you unzipped the
 velocity-tools distribution, go to the root directory of
 it and then type the ant command(s).

 On 9/25/06, Brenton Strine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Yes, I've looked through that tutorial, but I can't get
 through it.
 
  It says Build the Velocity Tools jar and the simple
  example by typing: ant example.simple and in the
 readme file it says
  To build the project, start ant in the root directory
 of the project:
   ant.
 
  However, when I do either of these, all I ever get is
  Buildfile: build.xml does not exist! Build failed.
 
  I'm typing these commands in cmd.exe and I've tried it
 in the
  directory velocity-tools-1.2,
 velocity-tools-1.2\examples, and a few
  other things.
 
  My velocity-tools-1.2 directory is inside the velocity
 directory. Is
  that bad? What's the problem?
 
  Brenton
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will
 Glass-Husain
  Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:37 PM
  To: Velocity Users List
  Subject: Re: Installing velocity
 
  Have you read the tutorial on webapps I linked to in
 the previous
  email?
 
  Download the subproject Velocity Tools.  Look for the
 tutorial on
  using VelocityViewServlet and follow that.
 
  WILL
 
  On 9/23/06, Brenton Strine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Perhaps actually, what I mean to ask is what I need
 to
  do to *use*
   Velocity. Because I'm pretty sure I have Velocity
  installed. I did the
   whole ant thing, and I also did ant test, and
  everything seems fine.
   But if it's installed, then why aren't .vm files
  executed as velocity?
   What do I have to do so that I can write some
 velocity
  code and see
   the output?
  
   Brenton
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Brenton Strine
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:43 PM
   To: Velocity Users List
   Subject: Installing velocity
  
   I've downloaded the tomcat windows exectutable
 (5.5.17)
  and ran it. It
   seems to have installed perfectly, and furthermore,
 is
  somehow
   integrated with apache!
  
   I have velocity downloaded (not to mention jdk and
 ant
  installed)...
   But I don't know how to install velocity. I assume
 I've
  got everything
   I need. So how do I install Velocity now?
  
   Thanks everyone,
  
   Brenton
  
  
 
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Re: Installing velocity

2006-09-23 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Have you read the tutorial on webapps I linked to in the previous email?

Download the subproject Velocity Tools.  Look for the tutorial on
using VelocityViewServlet and follow that.

WILL

On 9/23/06, Brenton Strine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Perhaps actually, what I mean to ask is what I need to do
to *use* Velocity. Because I'm pretty sure I have
Velocity installed. I did the whole ant thing, and I also
did ant test, and everything seems fine. But if it's
installed, then why aren't .vm files executed as
velocity? What do I have to do so that I can write some
velocity code and see the output?

Brenton

-Original Message-
From: Brenton Strine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:43 PM
To: Velocity Users List
Subject: Installing velocity

I've downloaded the tomcat windows exectutable (5.5.17)
and ran it. It seems to have installed perfectly, and
furthermore, is somehow integrated with apache!

I have velocity downloaded (not to mention jdk and ant
installed)... But I don't know how to install velocity. I
assume I've got everything I need. So how do I install
Velocity now?

Thanks everyone,

Brenton

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Re: Beginner trying to install velocity to apache server

2006-09-22 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Yes, I think that's a good way of framing it.  (no pun intended).

So the stack becomes

Apache (optional)
 -  Tomcat (app server)
 -- web framework (or VelocityViewServlet)
  - Velocity


WILL

On 9/22/06, Brenton Strine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does this mean that a web  framework actually *is*
necessary, but that if not supplied otherwise, velocity
uses it's own simple one?

Brenton

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will
Glass-Husain
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:59 AM
To: Velocity Users List
Subject: Re: Beginner trying to install velocity to
apache server

Actually, Velocity provides the VelocityViewServlet
which is a ultra simple web framework (i.e. category 1).
You just drop the templates in your Tomcat web app and
you go.

Have you seen this article?

http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/webapps.html

WILL

On 9/22/06, Peter Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't comment on Click as I've never used it, but I
must recommend
 staying away from Struts.  I know I may start an
argument here as
 there are a lot of people who still live by them but
I've used Struts,
 and while they were great when they first came out and
there weren't
 alternatives,  I have found them to be inferior to many
other newer MVC/MVC2 frameworks.

 You don't NEED anything from 1.  To be honest, I
wouldn't bother with
 any other MVC framework until you learn velocity and
all it offers.

 All you need to do to get velocity based pages to
render your computer is:

 Install Tomcat and then Velocity.  That's it.

 Once you are comfortable with the above and are writing
some simple
 velocity backed servlets, then do your OWN
investigation as to a
 supporting framework to help you.  My suggestions to
look at are
 Spring MVC/Web flow, Tapestry, JSF, but remember these
aren't
 necessary, and in my opinion can add an unnecessary
layer unless the web app developed is going to be quite
large.

 Again this is a matter of opinion and others may argue
that you should
 never develop a web app without one of these helper
frameworks under
 the templating language, and I encourage you to explore
them for
 yourself after getting comfortable with a basic
velocity only webapp.



 -Original Message-
 From: Brenton Strine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:16 AM
 To: Velocity Users List
 Subject: RE: Beginner trying to install velocity to
apache server

 Wow, I really wasn't getting it! Thanks everyone. May I
ask a
 clarifacatory question?

 It seemed to me that all the stuff mentioned goes into
two categories:

 1: click, struts
 2: tomcat, jboss, websphere, resin, jetty

 And possibly 3: resin, apache.


 And my understanding is that to get velocity to render
on my pc, I
 need to install one thing from category 1, and one
thing from category 2. Correct?

 I'm going to want to install either the easiest or the
one with the
 most detailed install documentation available.

 Thanks,

 Brenton


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Re: Using Velocity In Servlets

2006-09-19 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Alexandre,

(Would you mind keeping the discussion on the user list -- otherwise
it becomes overwhelming).

I suggest you use Velocity 1.5-beta, just released.  It's pretty
stable.  Download it from here:

http://cvs.apache.org/dist/jakarta/velocity/

WILL

On 9/19/06, Alexandre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey,

just though I could ask you one more question...
i saw in the docs that Velocity suports number comparison only for integers.
also, i saw one post of yours (dating of 2005...) that says in 1.5 it will
be various types...

how to overcome that limitation?
should i implement a class to help me with that?

thanks a lot!
Alexandre


On 9/17/06, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Alexandre,

 One thing to consider.  We've just released the beta version of
 Velocity 1.5 (or rather, are  in the middle of doing so -- I don't
 think the web site is upgraded).  We've deprecated the VelocityServlet
 and recommend you use the VelocityViewServlet in the Velocity Tools
 project instead.  (This works with Velocity 1.4 as well).

 There's more info at these two urls:
 http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/webapps.html
 http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/tools/view/

 Along with the many technical improvements, the documentation and
 examples are much better.

 WILL

 On 9/16/06, Alexandre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm using Velocity now, but I spent the
  last hour trying to figure out how to tell
  it where my templates are stored.
 
  I'm writing this message because I think
  that the Developer's Guide section entitled
  Using Velocity In Servlets should give
  a little bit more of detail in this respect.
 
  I think you could just put a tiny example
  of a servlet code overriding the
  loadConfiguration() method.
 
  I know that it's explained on that section,
  telling that if you want to set properties
  at startup you could use it, but for newbies
  this is to much hidden (they're just learning
  that Velocity looks in a specific path for
  the templates).
 
  Notice that the text refers to the examples:
   The following code is SIMILAR to the
   SampleServlet.java class included in the
   distribution in the examples directory.
  It's SIMILAR. It would not work for anyone
   trying it.
 
  Then I thought it would make sense to just
  google for that (ResourceNotFoundException).
  None of them could help me. I thought it would
  be too stupid to post one more on the web.
 
  Finnaly, as I tend to look at code samples too
  late (because I like reading about the subject
  and seeing examples intermingled with text),
  I found one example that comes packaged
  with Velocity.
 
  Sorry for bothering you with this, but I think
  this would be a great trigger to get everyone
  up and running the first minute (a thing only a
  few templating engines can do).
 
  Congratulations!
  You're doing a great job!
 
  Alexandre Martini
 
 


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Re: Velocity-tools and geronimo

2006-09-17 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Where's the Velocity jar file?  Is it in the webapp directory?

Could Geronimo have another Velocity jar in the container classpath?

Velocity 1.4 has a problem if it's in the container classpath, not the
webapp classpath.  You might try Velocity 1.5-beta.  (will be released
momentarily).

On 9/17/06, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hmm.  Seems like a difference in the servlet implementation is
likely...  of course that's just guessing.  and it may be that
Geronimo isn't wrong, but just interprets the spec differently.  it's
hard to say without looking into it more.  Would you open a JIRA issue
for this?

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS

and perhaps include example output from that VTL snippet you sent for
Tomcat and Geronimo as references for comparison?

that'd be great!

On 9/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey all,

 Velocity has been working sweet for quite some time, but I am working on 
upgrading the system to using Geronimo 1.1 from Tomcat 5.5.*.

 When I run my war under Tomcat, it works perfectly.  When I run the same war 
under Geronimo, it ...almost works.   Screens are generated and some links work.

 However, whereever I use a link as follows, the host is left off of the front 
of the URL once it is generated.  Again this does not happen under just Tomcat.


 a 
href=$link.setAction('/pub/list/submit').addQueryData(c,$!csl).addQueryData(r,$!pop.pId)$!pop.pName/a


 Any ideas?


 John Eichelsdorfer
 The job bank http://www.jobbank.com





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Re: i encounter some mistakes in User Guide.

2006-09-12 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Sun,

Thanks for catching this.  Coincidentally someone just reported the
first mistake the other day.  We'll work on fixing these.

WILL

On 9/11/06, sun davy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi Velocity team:
  I am an user of Velocity from China. Thanks for your perfect production.
Through your creative and hard work, we have such Convenience and Powerful
tools in our toolbox.
  but i have encounter some mistakes in the Velocity User Guide which in
velocity-1.4\docs directory.
1) in Escaping VTL Directives section.
   \\#if( $jazz )
  Vyacheslav Ganelin
   \\#end

   In this case, if $jazz is true, the output is

   \ Vyacheslav Ganelin
   \

 after i run this code fragment,the output is :
   \ Vyacheslav Ganelin \
 i think it's reasonable,because there is no br tag,so the
browser(my is IE 6.0) doesn't output the backslash in a new line.

2) Advanced Issues: Escaping and !
  #set( $foo = bar )
  $\!foo
  $\!{foo}
  $\\!foo
  $\\\!foo

This renders as:
  $!foo
  $!{foo}
  $\!foo
  $\\!foo

   My output is:
  $!foo
  $!{
  $\!foo
  $\\!foo
   i was confused.
   ---
   Contrast this with regular escaping, where \ precedes $:
  \$foo
  \$!foo
  \$!{foo}
  \\$!{foo}
  This renders as:
  \$foo
  \$!foo
  \$!{foo}
  \bar

  My output is:
  $foo
  $!foo
  $!{foo}
  \bar

  it seems like clerical error.

3) Velocimacro Trivia
   Currently, Velocimacros must be defined before they are first used in a
template. This means that your #macro() declarations should come before
using the Velocimacros.

   i defined VM after they are first used in a template, it also work. i
don't know why.


  hope your reply.

  best regards

  sun wei



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Re: memory problem with display table export options

2006-09-10 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Sreidar,

Are you sure you are referring to Velocity?  I'm familiar with the
open source Display Table tag library, but not with anything in
Velocity of that name...

WILL

On 9/8/06, Alexey Panchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

sreidhar kanaparthy wrote:

 I am using th display table to list the number of users in my application.
 Export is working fine when there is less data, but when it reaches more
 than 50,000 users , almost all types of
 exports throwing the exceptions like heap exception or unable to export .
 I am expecting the application to scale to support upto atleast a million
 users.

 Any suggestion to solve this problem is of great help

1. Allow JVM to use more memory - e.g. add -Xmx256Ì to the java
command line starting your application.

2. Use profiler to track memory usage and optimize it in your
application.

How do you use velocity? Why do you think that velocity is the most
involved part in your memory usage?

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Re: [HELP] I'm looking for one text editor for Velocity

2006-08-28 Thread Will Glass-Husain

I use Eclipse with one of the Velocity plugins or TextPad (with a
Velocity syntax extension).  The first does auto-completion and error
checking, the second just syntax highlighting.



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At least Ecplipse, JEdit  emacs

http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/VelocityEditors


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I got a problem in seeking one text editor using in Velocity, I tried to use
FCKEditor, but it sometimes doesn't work :( , I tried to use Dojo, but it's
text editor can't specify cols and rows :( ... help me plz

thanks in advance.

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Re: AJAX anyone?

2006-08-25 Thread Will Glass-Husain

I use Velocity with Ajax to generate the server-side responses.  More
commonly I do JSON responses but have also done XML.  For me, the
Velocity does no parsing, merely generates the AJAX reponse like it
would any other text.   It's convenient to specify a few lines of
velocity, save it to my web directory, then retrieve with an AJAX
call.

WILL

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I use and love Velocity, but when I want to deal with XML I use
FreeMarker, which supports XPATH and can parse very easily.

I have Spring configured to use both Velocity and FreeMarker so I can use
one or the other for any given view.

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Re: AJAX anyone?

2006-08-25 Thread Will Glass-Husain

One more quick note.  With prototype.js, it's easy to use the Updater
javascript function to populate a DIV tag on the fly with an HTML
formatted chunk.  Again, it's easy to do this chunk in Velocity (or
any templating language, really).

WILL

On 8/25/06, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I use Velocity with Ajax to generate the server-side responses.  More
commonly I do JSON responses but have also done XML.  For me, the
Velocity does no parsing, merely generates the AJAX reponse like it
would any other text.   It's convenient to specify a few lines of
velocity, save it to my web directory, then retrieve with an AJAX
call.

WILL

On 8/25/06, Scott Edward Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use and love Velocity, but when I want to deal with XML I use
 FreeMarker, which supports XPATH and can parse very easily.

 I have Spring configured to use both Velocity and FreeMarker so I can use
 one or the other for any given view.

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Re: Getting a velocity engine in Spring

2006-08-21 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hmm... I've successfully (and easily) used Velocity with the Spring
MVC.  Anyone got experience with the Spring/Struts/Velocity combo?

WILL

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Within Struts I've been using a velocity engine from within a subclass of
VelocityViewServlet with which I am able to call
evaluate(Context context, java.io.Writer out, java.lang.String logTag,
java.lang.String instring)
to render the vtl in the 'instring'. Because I am doing my own
preprocessing before
that call and possibly after I need that kind of fine grained control of the
vtl rendering.

I am moving now to Spring, which gives me some important features,
but haven't been able to figure out how to do the hand rendering of
the vtl within a Spring controller. Any suggestions on how to do that?

Bill Rishel

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Re: how to declare map in template

2006-08-17 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Prashant,

This capability (literal maps) is available in the (as yet unreleased)
Velocity 1.5.  If you download the code from svn, you'll see this in
the users guide.

WILL

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Hi,

I want to know that how we can declare Map object in template.

regards
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Re: how to reduce memory usage and still use the cache?

2006-08-15 Thread Will Glass-Husain
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Re: some escape character

2006-08-04 Thread Will Glass-Husain

I don't think we currently allow this.  Is it in JIRA?  If not, I'll
add it a bit later.

Will

On 8/4/06, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I can't recall if quote escaping was actually added to Velocity 1.5
yet or not, but i'm at least sure we came to the consensus that double
quote escaping should be done as follows for backwards compatibility.

#button( ADD javascript:retrieveURL($AJAXurl)

At least, i think so.  Perhaps someone else can confirm whether this
is in 1.5 yet or not?  My memory is fuzzy these days, as i'm suffering
from newborn-baby-sleep-deprivation. :)

On 8/4/06, Barbara Baughman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When in doubt, I find the most straightforward way to do it is to:
 #set($q='')

 #set ($AJAXurl = $link.setAction(ShowRegionAddForm))
 #button(ADD javascript:retrieveURL($q$AJAXurl$q))br

 This approach takes less brainpower to implement and is easier to read
 than escape characters, which I don't think Velocity has anyway.  I
 use this quite often in HTML-based templates.

 Barbara Baughman
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 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, dizzi wrote:

  It has probably pretty simple solution but i cant figure it anyway :)
 
  #macro(button $name $url)
div class=buttona href=$url$name/a/div
  #end
 
 
  #set ($AJAXurl = $link.setAction(ShowRegionAddForm))
  #button(ADD javascript:retrieveURL($AJAXurl))br
 
  is renedered like javascript:retrieveURL(/tors/ShowRegionAddForm.do)
 
  I need javascript:retrieveURL(/tors/ShowRegionAddForm.do)
 
  How can i tell velocity that quote in macro parameter is part of string
  and not argument
 
 
  #button(ADD javascript:retrieveURL('$AJAXurl'))br
 
  this works nice, but what if i need  and not ' :)
 
  thx dizzi
 
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Re: Defining velocimacro in java class

2006-07-31 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Here are some good examples about how to extend Velocity, including
the creation of custom directives...

http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/HackingVelocity

WILL

On 7/31/06, Maxim Gordienko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The reason is quite simple. The macro logic is quite complicated and
cumbersome. It hardly can be implemented in velocity template.
It's legacy architecture feature - view asks business logic for a model.

Maybe I do not need macro and directive works just well. I need to
define some kind of shortcut for view developer who can use it in
any view. And a logic behind this shortcut is actually evaluated
only if velocity engine encounter shortcut in rendered view.

Can you point out where i can find info about custom directive?
Thank you!

On 7/31/06, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there some particular reason you want to attach the macro to a
 specific context?  If you are just wanting to define a Velocimacro
 in a java class, than you can create a custom directive.  But those
 must be associated with a VelocityEngine before initialization.

 Your other option would be to Use A Tool.   This could be a tool
 that takes advantage of the VelocityTools support or just any old
 POJO.  Have it take the parameters you want and generate the output
 you want.  Then you just put it in your context and use it.

 Other than these alternatives, no, i don't believe it is possible to
 define a Velocimacro in a java class and attach it to a specific
 context.

 On 7/30/06, Maxim Gordienko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello!
 
  Is it possible to define Velocimacro in java class (implementing some
  interface, extending some base class etc.), somehow register it in
  context and use it just like macro defined inline or in macros
  library?
 
  Thank you.
 
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Re: Putting key/value pair into hashmap from velocity template

2006-07-22 Thread Will Glass-Husain

More specifically, see

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-186

WILL

Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:

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(In 2001 I made a proposal and contribution allowing: #set($!dummy=null)
 to explicitly allow set-operations with null RHS - but it did not
 find its way in. It is a simple patch, and maybe there is more
 interest now).



Please take a look at the directive.set.null.allowed property of
1.5-dev. It should do exactly what you want.

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Re: Putting key/value pair into hashmap from velocity template

2006-07-22 Thread Will Glass-Husain

That'll teach me to actually try out syntax before suggesting it.

Thanks, Henning...

Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:

Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

Hi Matthias--



  

Two things.  First, this syntax is not valid:
${jMap.put(123, test)}



No. It is valid. Don't listen to Will. ;-) 

  

Use one of these two forms this instead



  

$jMap.put(ttt123,test)
${jMap}.put(ttt123,test)



Uhm, no?!?  ${jMap.put(...)} _is_ correct. 


If you write ${jMap}.put(), you force Velocity to evaluate ${jMap}
without looking at the surrounding template code. This leads to
executing jMap.toString() which renders the map as text and then
adding .put(...) after it.

  
The reason Velocity works this way is that templates are typically used 
to just display data.  They very rarely change internal state.  (makes 
for less error-prone programming).  If you want to call put from 
within your template and not have it return null, you'll need to write a 
Map wrapper which is either defined void or returns an actual value.



... or use the quiet notation $! or use 1.5-dev where you can set a property to
have null as a valid reference. 


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Re: Putting key/value pair into hashmap from velocity template

2006-07-21 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Matthias--

Two things.  First, this syntax is not valid:
${jMap.put(123, test)}

Use one of these two forms this instead

$jMap.put(ttt123,test)
${jMap}.put(ttt123,test)

Second, the put call works fine in your example.  But since it returns 
null, it echoes back the velocity reference.   You can test this by 
doing a get after the put.


The reason Velocity works this way is that templates are typically used 
to just display data.  They very rarely change internal state.  (makes 
for less error-prone programming).  If you want to call put from 
within your template and not have it return null, you'll need to write a 
Map wrapper which is either defined void or returns an actual value.


WILL


Matthias Hendler wrote:

Hello,

I have created a simple test to show the problem I have with velocity.
I offer my test case in a zip archive to everyone who is interested.

Download the archive at: http://velocity.hendlerreplace this and brackets by a 
minus sign '-'home.de/

In this archive you will find the java source, all needed velocity jars, a 
template and a batch file to run the test.
Look at my template file, run the batch file and watch the output file and 
velocity logfile.

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Re: Putting key/value pair into hashmap from velocity template

2006-07-21 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi--

 I do not know if the current
 release allows empty #if(...)#end body.

Previously fixed in the source control head.

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Re: Overriding the default precedence of the template engine

2006-07-20 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Mike,

Not sure.  The basic premise behind Velocity is this notion of the 
application providing the context and then the template being filled 
out.  Such an approach keeps things simple.


You might look at the Velocity Tools project -- there's a item called 
RenderTool that lets a Velocity template evaluate more text within itself.


WILL

Smith, Mike H wrote:

Hi,

 


Is there a way to modify the precedence logic of the template engine?

 


In particular, I'd like to:

 

 


1.  Define a template like:

 


#set( $this = Velocity)

$this is great!

 


2.  Within the application code, set the this property to be
something different (e.g. Laughter)
3.  Then have the engine render as Laughter is great

 

 


With the current implementation the rendering precedence is template
then context, any easy way to reverse this?

 


Thanks.

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Re: Extracting a list of keys from a string based template

2006-07-20 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Mike,

First, a quick side comment.  Velocity.evaluate() does work fine.  But 
if you are calling Velocity repeatedly, consider using a resource loader 
like FileResourceLoader or ClasspathResourceLoader.  The caching 
mechanism in the resource loader speeds up things tremendously.


Velocity is more aimed at generating the text rather than parsing it.  
It doesn't contain much in the way of identifying content.  It's 
possible you might load the file in a resource loader, take the returned 
Template object, and break it down into to the constituent parsed 
nodes.  But since this is essentially an internal structure, the 
specific node types it might change in future versions.


WILL

Smith, Mike H wrote:
Hi, 

 


I'm a Velocity newbie, and am evaluating to see if it can address our
relatively simple requirements.

 


I need to use String based templates. After a bit if digging around I
found the following function:

 


Velocity.evaluate( context, writer, , templateString );

  


This works pretty well for our purposes.

 


However I also need to get a list of candidate keys from the template
String.

 


So if my template contains: $a $b I need to extract [a,b].

 


Thanks.

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Re: Putting key/value pair into hashmap from velocity template

2006-07-19 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Matthias--

There's no magic.  If there are parens, it assumes it is a method call

$abc.foo(data)

calls the foo method with the argument data.

$abc.foo

would call either getFoo(), getfoo()  or (for a Map) get(foo)

WILL

Matthias Hendler wrote:

Thanx Chris,

but this doesn't solve the problem. :(
It's  still the same error.
I also tried to use the method set(index, object) from arraylist, but this also 
doesn't work.

I guess that velocity does some magic and don't calls the put-method from 
hashmap or the set-method from arraylist.

I have verified both tests by calling the methods clear() and size() on hashmap 
and arraylist to be sure, that the objects exists in the velocity context.

I have found at http://www.freebok.net/help/velocity4.html the following  
example:
$sisyphus.pushRock()
## Velocity assumes I mean $sisyphus.getRock()
Its not discussed in detail what the author meant by his example, but I wonder 
how velocity assumes method calls.

















 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:00:13 +0200
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Putting key/value pair into hashmap from velocity template

  

try without the square brackets...

;) Christoph

Matthias Hendler wrote:


Hello,

I try to put a key/value pair to a hashmap from velocity template.

First I put a new hashmap object into velocity context named myMap.
In my templates I can write:
...
$myMap.clear()
Size: $myMap.size()
...
The above works fine. Now I want to put a key/value pair into the
  

hashmap using the method put(object, object).


So I wrote:
...
${myMap.put([123, test])}
  

   ^ ^


...
And I get an exception: ${myMap.put([123, test])} is not a valid
  

reference.


What's wrong?

Thanx 
Matthias










  

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Re: Putting key/value pair into hashmap from velocity template

2006-07-19 Thread Will Glass-Husain
ah - thanks for the correction.  not every day I learn something new 
about Velocity.


WILL

Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:

Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

would call either getFoo(), getfoo()  or (for a Map) get(foo)



Not just for a map. For _any_ object. If it has a get(Object) method,
this gets called. I've used this many times in Turbine tools which
definitely don't implement Map.

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Re: Urgent ,need help for using Velocity

2006-07-17 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Surjan,

[Can you please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks!]

Depends whether you want to use Velocity for a web app or other application.

For a web app, see
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/webapps.html
(there's a tutorial at the end)

For use in other applications (e.g. generating email or other text 
files), see the example in 
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/docs/developer-guide.html#Using%20Velocity%20In%20General%20Applications


Will

Surjan Rawat wrote:

Hi,
   I am new to Velocity . I want to if theres any good tutorial for
beginners on velocity.
I want to develop a simple application using velocity for my 
presentation.

Please Help.


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Re: parseErrorException

2006-07-17 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Tom,

Are you trying to compile the docs for Tools?  Any of the tools users 
have thoughts on this?


best,
WILL

Tom Jerry wrote:

C:\Softwares\velocity-tools-1.2-srcant
Buildfile: build.xml
..
.

.
docs:
[dvsl] Loading stylesheet C:\Softwares\velocity-
tools-1.2-src\xdocs\site.dv
sl
[dvsl]  [error] Exception Loading User Directive:
org.apache.tools.dvsl.dir
ective.MatchDirective : java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
org.apache.tools.dvsl.
directive.MatchDirective
[dvsl]  [error] ResourceManager : unable to find resource
'VM_global_librar
y.vm' in any resource loader.
[dvsl]  [error] Parser Exception: DVSL:stylesheet :
org.apache.velocity.run
time.parser.ParseException: Encountered #end\r\n at line 162, column 1.
[dvsl] Was expecting one of:
[dvsl] EOF
[dvsl] ( ...
[dvsl] RPAREN ...
[dvsl] ESCAPE_DIRECTIVE ...
[dvsl] SET_DIRECTIVE ...
[dvsl]  ...
[dvsl] \\ ...
[dvsl] TEXT ...
[dvsl] SINGLE_LINE_COMMENT ...
[dvsl] *# ...
[dvsl] *# ...
[dvsl] STRING_LITERAL ...
...

[dvsl] Failed to read stylesheet C:\Softwares\velocity-
tools-1.2-src\xdocs\
site.dvsl

BUILD FAILED
C:\Softwares\velocity-tools-1.2-src\build.xml:261:
org.apache.velocity.exception
.ParseErrorException: Encountered #end\r\n at line 162, column 1.
Was expecting one of:
   EOF
   ( ...
   RPAREN ...
   ESCAPE_DIRECTIVE ...

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Re: ClasspathResourceLoader with/without leading slash

2006-07-17 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Bradley,

I think this works in the (as yet) unreleased Velocity 1.5.  It's pretty 
stable, you can download it, compile it and use it.


If you want to make it relative, you might try writing your own resource 
loader.  It's a fairly simple API.  Just grab the code for 
ClasspathResourceLoader from the source and modify it.  Then specify 
this custom resource loader in your velocity.properties.


There's some more info on writing custom resource loaders on the Wiki 
here and elsewhere:

http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/HackingVelocity

Best, WILL

Bradley Wagner wrote:
I'm using Velocity-1.4 and I'm experiencing problems with loading 
templates using the ClasspathResourceLoader. Basically, the only way I 
can get it to work is by dropping the leading slash on my absolute 
classpath.


Template template = Velocity.getTemplate(class/path/to/file)

Also, is there any way to reference something relative to your current 
class as you can do with the resource loader in Java?


MyClass.class.getResourceAsStream(./relative/to/current)

Thanks,
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Re: pls help on Velocity-servlets

2006-07-11 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Tom,

You probably want to download the sub project Velocity Tools.  Use the 
VelocityViewServlet -- it's the best approach. 


Also, read this article.  It includes a simple tutorial

http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/webapps.html

WILL



Tom Jerry wrote:
hi... I have a simple servlet and velocity program.. for eg. 
Sample.java and

email.vm ... and when the vm file is run in a browser, nothing is
displayed.. which means the template is not loaded properly . email.vm 
is in

pets folder (pets/email.vm) and Sample.class is in pets/WEB-INF/classes
folder. I gave the simple code as :
Template t = getTemplate (email.vm);

  I am new to Velocity... and while googling, I found that 
webAppLoader
is the best way to load templates. How to use it ??? And which is the 
proper

way.. having a velocity.properties file or setting the properties in the
Servlet java file ??? Please guide me.

Regards,
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macro not being called

2006-07-09 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi,

Just a quick query.  Has anyone else had problems with repeated or 
simultaneous macro calls not executing?


I've a template that does 10 macro calls in quick succession with a 
#parse'd header file.  (I use this to load a common set of data for the 
page).  This is an app with 2 iframes, so there are always at least 3 
simultaneous threads making these 10 macro calls.


I'm discovering that on my production machine sometimes the first 7 of 
those calls execute, but the last 3 don't.  Changing the order of the 
calls doesn't make a difference, it's always the last 3.  I'm suspecting 
some subtle race condition, but it's hard to replicate this on my dev 
machine.


The property velocimacro.permissions.allow.inline.local.scope is set 
to true, so theoretically macros in one page shouldn't affect another.


Anyone have a similar experience?

Will

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Re: Inject velocimacros during runtime (request)

2006-07-07 Thread Will Glass-Husain
I'd like this too.  (or something similar to allow macros to be defined 
in other files).  It's been a growing demand from our users.  Adding the 
macros via #parse would be nice for me.  But it sounds like you're 
looking for some type of event handler allowing the macros to be 
selected in code.  Is this right?


WILL

Magnus Kvalheim wrote:

Hi all,
I'm using VelocityViewServlet with velocitytools 1.2

I'm working on a web based templating system that relies on velocity 
for generating output.
This is a multiuser system and files are stored in private 
repositories (DB). A custom resourceloader takes care of the file 
segregation.


I would like for my users to be able to specify velocimacros in a 
configuration-file and have them loaded in request time.
(Just like with the velocimacro.library property in the 
velocity.properties file are loaded for the velocity engine)


I have searched through the sourcecode for a suited place to 'inject' 
the runtime macro files, with no success so far.


I realize that the macro files could be parsed from within a template 
file, but I would like for my users to be able to declare them in a 
configuration file.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreaciated

thanks
magnus

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Re: clarification needed for getting HashMap values in the templates

2006-07-07 Thread Will Glass-Husain

yes.

WILL

jian chen wrote:

Hi, All,

As a long term Velocity user, I think I have been pretty savvy for 
Velocity

usage. Still got a question to ask though.

If I put a HashMap in the Velocity template,

HashMap map = new HashMap();
map.put(aKey, aValue);
ctx.put(map, map);

I can retrieve the value in the template by: $map.aKey.

I tried to find relevant info. in Velocity user guide, but couldn't 
find any

relating this usage.

So, is it that $map.aKey is the same as $map.get(aKey)?

Thanks,

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Re: Please - help me

2006-07-06 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Ravi,

[ this questions is more suited for the velocity-user list, not the 
developer list.  Would you mind responding please to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks. ]


All Velocity does is generate text files - you have to define the output 
template for the radio buttons.  Take a look at Anakia.  This is an ant 
task for Velocity that reads in an XML file and uses it as the source 
data.  You should be able to use this to populate an HTML template that 
displays radio buttons.  For examples of how it works, download the 
velocity source and look at the documentation -- it's all created with 
Velocity/Anakia based on XML source.


Best,
WILL


ravi gowda wrote:

Hi,

Description: Using apache template writer.

 I was not sure on how to post this question.. so I am
writing this mail..

Problem is , I have written an xml file (where two
radio buttons should be horizontally aligned) 
for ex:


radiobutton name=RadioButtons description=
option label=Radio_1 value=
option label=Radio_2 value=
/radiobutton

Based on the above example the buttons will be aligned
vertically one below the other like..

Radio_1 .
Radio_2 .

 But I need them to be horizontally aligned on next to
the other like this.

Radio_1 .  Radio_2 .

When I start my Application the XML will be loaded by
the java class (which imports the functionality of the
Sun's velocity template engine API) and writes to the
template using Apache's velocity template writer.

Since I don't have any control to any CSS/XSL 
standards and also even I don't even know abt it at
all. 
At the end when I could my those radio buttons sitting
one below the other.. 



Can Any one suggest me how to achieve this.

Thanks in Advance

Ravi












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Re: Velocity on z/OS - velocity.properties not getting picked up

2006-06-23 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Having the multiple jars with Velocity has been known to cause problems 
in the past, particularly if they are loaded by different classloaders 
(e.g. one in a container classpath and one in the app).


Can you get rid of one and see what happens?

WILL

Anuradha Weeraman wrote:

Hi,

I've been using Velocity in J2EE web application on z/OS and have been
running into a few problems. I'm using maven to build the application
which has set dependencies on velocity 1.4. the repository/jars folder
contains both velocity-1.4.jar and velocity-1.4-dev.jar.

For some reason, when velocity is initialized, the velocity.properties
file doesn't get picked up and as a result throws a
NullPointerException. When a Property object is manually populated
with the needed fields or if the property file is manually loaded and
passed into the init method, it seems to work.

Does anybody any idea why the velocity.properties in
velocity-1.4.jar\org\apache\velocity\runtime\defaults doesn't get
picked up automatically?

Could it be because the property file appears in both maven-1.4.jar
and maven-1.4-dev.jar?

Regards,
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Re: How Can I Search the Archive?

2006-06-14 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Search for StringResourceLoader. 


There's a couple of archives.  I like GMane.
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.velocity.user

But here's a more helpful link with some sample code:
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-183

WILL

Keith R. Bennett wrote:

All -

Is there a way I can search the archive for a given string, say 
String Resource Locator?


The only interface I see is to view messages by month (at 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-velocity-user/).


Thanks,
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Re: another kudo to Velocity, destinationlighting.com is live

2006-06-02 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Jian,

Thanks for the update and good words!

Please feel free to update the PoweredByVelocity wiki page if you'd 
like.  Good luck with your site.


Cheers,

WILL

jian chen wrote:

Hi, All,

Our site, www.destinationlighting.com, went live yesterday. Powered by
Velocity template engine, it will be the best and most comprehensive 
online

store for lighting fixtures and related hardware.

A big thank you for the velocity developers and the open source 
community.

we love this template engine!

Jian Chen
Lead Developer
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Re: Velocity 1.5-dev on jdk 1.3

2006-05-30 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Yes, it can run with JDK 1.3+.

(requires JDK 1.4 to compile)

WILL

Ricardo Lecheta wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to use the Click web framework in a project and Click 
uses Velocity 1.5-dev for view rendering.


But my customer uses WebSphere 3.5 with jdk 1.3.

Does velocity run with jdk 1.3 ?

thanks,
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Re: How can I get the length of Array ?

2006-05-25 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Not true, though it's on our feature request list.

Use ListTool from the Velocity tools project.

WILL

Withers John Z wrote:

I think $arr.size() would return the length of the array.  If memory
serves, Velocity implements arrays as ArrayList.

John Withers 


-Original Message-
From: trad-ex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:13 AM

To: Velocity Users List
Subject: How can I get the length of Array ?

Hi all,

In the Velocity realm, how can I get the length of Array ?
For instance,

#set( $arr = __set int[] value__ )
#if( $arr.length  0 )
 ...(snip)...
 
$arr.length is always null. Why ?

I always use helper Object to avoid this issue.
For example, 


$helperObj.lengthOf( $arr )

This method, lengthOf, is described below:

 public int lengthOf( Object[] objects )  {
   if( objects == null)
 return 0;
   return objects.length;
 }
 
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Re: How can I get the length of Array ?

2006-05-25 Thread Will Glass-Husain

That'll teach me to read the question fully before answering...

#set($abc = [1,2,3])

actually creates an ArrayList, so any List method-- such as size()-- 
will work.


WILL

Townson, Chris wrote:

How do you mean, Will?

$myArray.class.name returns java.util.ArrayList and $myArray.size() has always 
worked for me.

Chris 

  

-Original Message-
From: Will Glass-Husain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 May 2006 14:50

To: Velocity Users List
Subject: Re: How can I get the length of Array ?

Not true, though it's on our feature request list.

Use ListTool from the Velocity tools project.

WILL

Withers John Z wrote:


I think $arr.size() would return the length of the array.  If memory
serves, Velocity implements arrays as ArrayList.

John Withers 


-Original Message-
From: trad-ex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:13 AM

To: Velocity Users List
Subject: How can I get the length of Array ?

Hi all,

In the Velocity realm, how can I get the length of Array ?
For instance,

#set( $arr = __set int[] value__ )
#if( $arr.length  0 )
 ...(snip)...
 
$arr.length is always null. Why ?

I always use helper Object to avoid this issue.
For example, 


$helperObj.lengthOf( $arr )

This method, lengthOf, is described below:

 public int lengthOf( Object[] objects )  {
   if( objects == null)
 return 0;
   return objects.length;
 }
 
Best Regards,

trad-ex



  

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Re: Static Template Validation?

2006-05-24 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Elmar,

Nice idea.  It's been discussed briefly on the list before, but there's 
no implementation.  There's two sides to it.  (1) validation of template 
and (2) performance improvement through compilation.  My personal 
opinion is that validation would be a major benefit, but that 
compilation may or may not matter.  (Performance with Velocity's built 
in caching system is pretty good). 


WILL

Elmar Jürgens wrote:

Hi,


I am using Velocity to generate Java classes for a custom target 
framework (also written in Java).
Every time I change my target framework, I have to adapt my velocity 
templates accordingly.


I am looking for a way to statically validate the Java code contained 
in my velocity templates, in order to automatically find those spots 
in my templates that I have to adapt to a change in the underlying 
framework.


My first guess at a static template validator would be to somehow 
transform a Java-generating-template into something one can more or 
less hand to a Java compiler for static validation.

Does something like this already exist? Any other ideas?

Any comments, explanations, wild ideas or pointers to additional 
material very much appreciated!




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Re: macros and out of scope variables

2006-05-17 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Scott,

Only what's defined in the user guide under Velocimacro 
configuration.  I don't think you can enforce this, no.


WILL

Scott Edward Skinner wrote:

Hi Velocity people,

Some of the developers I work with have this annoying habit of 
referencing variables in macros that were not passed to the macros as 
a parameters. I suppose you could call these global variables and 
argue that this is perfectly normal, but from my point of view that 
makes every variable passed from the model to the view a global and 
why have macro params at all? It's useful to be able to look at a 
macro's params and know that these represent every external variable 
the macro needs in order to fulfill its logic responsibilities.


So...

Is there any way to enforce scope on macros such that they can only 
reference the params that are explicitly passed to them?


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Re: A 1.5 release date?

2006-05-07 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Peter,

I'll just weigh in with a quick comment or two as I'm working through 
the weekend to deliver a big project next week.  I may not be able to 
respond later as my email access is limited.


We've discussed this on the list before.  My take -- Velocity is a 
mature product, with a released version in use lots of places.  For 1.5 
we focused on bug fixes (and improvements in error reporting, 
integration, etc) and it's pretty stable.  There's really no important 
bugs left that haven't been solved-- Look at JIRA and look at the wiki 
-- there's only a handful of trivial (if subtle) syntax bugs left.  
(there's an irritating problem with including macros in parsed files 
too, but it's arguable whether that's a bug or design issue).


User support is pretty good -- the lists have far more activity than a 
classic dormant project.  And developers are still around.  (Myself, 
Nathan, Henning are often present on the lists).  The major frustration 
continues to be release - understandably many users expect a released 
version and we haven't delivered it in a timely manner.  Regardless of 
this fact, there's many users using version 1.4 and some using 
pre-release 1.5.  The software hasn't decayed, it's only gotten better.  
I don't feel competitive.   Everyone has to make their own decisions 
about whether and how to use Velocity. 

Like Nathan, I also feel bad about the lack of a release.  A week of 
work and it would be done.  But when I have my entire year's salary 
hanging onto the delivery of a consulting project in May and June, it's 
hard to set that time aside.  The other committers also have significant 
work and family committments.  (what's with all this family stuff, 
anyway?)  I'm reluctant to say anything about timing in public, since 
I've been wrong before.  But I'm betting that I'll have that week in the 
summer - maybe when I go on vacation :-)


best,
WILL


Peter Harrison wrote:

Velocity continues to be one of the primary technologies I use, but
there are a few annoying bugs that have been planned for future
releases and never made.

The point is that without a tight release cycle a open source project
will stagnate. The primary problem I see is that any work done in
Velocity will not make a release version anytime soon. If I thought that
improvements would make it into a release I would have fixed them by now
in the original codebase.

There are two major bugs I know of:

1. Setting a value to Null is ignored. Yes, I know its in the docs, its
been discussed to death here, but has not seen a fix in years, eben
though its a consensus that this should not be the right behaviour. 
.

2. Having a Null in the first object within a list will cause the method
cache to fail, and that column will have empty values for every column.

There is a nasty work around code in every view for these issues. I am
not a newbie, have used Velocity for years, and continue to believe it
is better than JSP. However, I would like to see active development, and
I am prepared to help so long as I know that the work will actually be
released.

I'm not being critical for its own sake - I believe in Velocity, and my
work depends on it. I would like to see it improved. I would like to
take part in that improvement. But I need to know that those who control
the process will release my work in a timely manner.

Regards,

Peter


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Re: curious about stack trace...

2006-04-28 Thread Will Glass-Husain
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at
com.sun.enterprise.web.connector.grizzly.ProcessorTask.processNonBlocked(ProcessorTask.java:571) 


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Re: #include()ed doc not loading

2006-04-25 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hi Brian,

This is a known issue.  Macros can't be written in one file and
included with a #parse statement.  See this for a summary.
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/MacroIssues

WILL

On 4/25/06, THOMAS, BRIAN M (SBCSI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a little fuddled about a macro definition file.  The Velocity engine
 is running in a Tomcat server (XWiki, actually) and I have a Velocity
 macro defined in a wiki document which is included in another wiki
 document which also calls it.

 The problem is that after the wiki restarts, the macro definition file
 is not loaded - or at least, the macro definition is not placed into the
 context - as evidenced by Velocity rendering the call instead of its
 execution.  Its argument is expanded, so that it's plain that it is
 being rendered.  What usually fixes it is when one of us opens the file
 explicitly, or saves it.

 I'm not at all certain that this is a Velocity problem, but I'd like to
 know if there's a way to learn whether an #include directive has failed,
 other than to note that the macro is undefined...?

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Re: Escaping double quote characters during variable substitution?

2006-04-24 Thread Will Glass-Husain
In the latest unreleased version in source control, there's are event
handlers to escape HTML, Javascript, etc.  I should have docs posted
in the next day or so.

WILL

On 4/24/06, Joe Desbonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've forms with velocity lines like this:

 input type=text name=myparam value=$myBean.getName() /

 Occasionally myParamValue will contain a double quote character which
 causes HTML parsing problems. I could of course define some object
 with a filter method and include it in the velocity context ... eg:

 input type=text name=myparam
 value=$filterObject.escapeQuotes($myBean.getName()) /

 but this is rather messy.

 Is there a way to put all variable substitutions through a filter? Or
 any other elegant solutions?

 Thanks,
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Re: how to find vm location in a velocity application jar

2006-04-23 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Have you looked into the JarResourceLoader or (my favorite) the
ClasspathResourceLoader?

http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/docs/developer-guide.html#Resource%20Loaders

WILL

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 hi,

 I'm developing a simple code-generator program using velocity.
 I'll distribute this as a jar (including java main- class and vm files )
 to
 developers.
 A problem is the location of vm files..

 generator.jar! main.java
 vm/ aaa.vm
bbb.vm

 in this structure, how can I find the path of vm files?

 property.setProperty( file.resource.loader.path, ../vm );
 Velocity.init(property);
 = doesn't work.. it searches for the where javaw executed../vm  NOT
 INSIDE JAR!!

 I cannot use an absolute path, because vm files are inside jar and I don't
 even know where developers will put the jar  !!

 is there any way to use ../.. path to access vm files inside jar??

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Re: Can velocity load a properties file ?

2006-04-21 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hi Trad-Ex,

Far be it from me to dictate how to develop your app.  But I tend to avoid
reflection in Velocity for the following reasons:

-- It's a complex syntax, easy to mess up, hard to read, hard to debug.

-- There's a much simpler alternative (putting objects and methods directly
in the context).

-- This is actively dangerous for cases in which third parties submit
templates as they have full acess to files and other resources on your
machine

Velocity works well as a markup language where text is directly inserted in
a template via properties or method calls.  Such templates are easy to use
and easy to maintain.  If you need a scripting or programming language there
are much better alternatives.

best,
WILL

On 4/20/06, trad-ex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Barbara,
 Hi Will,

 Thanks a lot for your response.
 As Will says, #set can make any class objects.
 In fact, I often make instances of ArrayList, and use them.
 But I think whether there are tools like org.apache.velocity.tools.
 struts.MessageTool or not.

 I will follow Will's advice to implement methods like $util.
 getPropertyResourceBundle( path ) in $util.

 BTW, why do you propse to limit to use reflection ?
 It's a powerful way to provide such availability into velocity realm, I
 guess. Would you mind asking you for reasons ?

 Best Regards,
 trad-ex


 Are you sure?  I think #set can be used for any class.
 
 I've proposed to limit this to prohibit reflection by default (such as
 what
 trad-ex is doing), but we haven't applied the patch yet.
 
 WILL
 
 On 4/20/06, Barbara Baughman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You cannot use the #set directive to designate just any kind of JAVA
  object.  See the User Guide for allowable references.  I believe the
  #set directive you have will automatically call the toString method of
  the class in order to set the variable to a valid reference, but you
  can check by printing the value of the set variable.
 
  Barbara Baughman
  X2157
 
  On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, trad-ex wrote:
 
   Hi All,
  
   I tried to load property resource bundle file, but failed to get an
   instance of FileInputStream.
   My code is below:
  
   #set( $fStreamClass = $util.class.forName(java.io.FileInputStream)
 )
   #set( $iStreamClass = $util.class.forName(java.io.InputStream) )
   #set( $stringClass = $util.class.forName(java.lang.String) )
   #set( $bundleClass
= $util.class.forName(java.util.PropertyResourceBundle) )
   #set( $userNameFilePath = $util.getPortalFile($userNameFile) )
   #set( $resStream
= $fStreamClass.getConstructor( [$stringClass] )
  .newInstance( [$userNameFile] ) )
   #set( $resBundle
= $bundleClass.getConstructor( [$iStreamClass] )
.newInstance( [$resStream] ) )
  
   $util object is provided by our application to inject functionality
 into
   velocity context.
   I succeeded to get $fStreamClass  $iStreamClass  $bundleClass
   But I failed to get $resStream  $resBundle.
  
   My questions are:
   1. Can I load the specific property file in Velocity context ?
   2. What's wrong with my velocity script ?
  
   Best Regards, and thanks in advance.
   trad-ex
  
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Re: Can velocity load a properties file ?

2006-04-20 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Ugh.  Using reflection in Velocity to create a new class is a pretty messy
kludge.  Would it be possible just to create a method in $util that loads
this, e.g. $util.getPropertyResourceBundle?

WILL



On 4/20/06, trad-ex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 I tried to load property resource bundle file, but failed to get an
 instance of FileInputStream.
 My code is below:

 #set( $fStreamClass = $util.class.forName(java.io.FileInputStream) )
 #set( $iStreamClass = $util.class.forName(java.io.InputStream) )
 #set( $stringClass = $util.class.forName(java.lang.String) )
 #set( $bundleClass
  = $util.class.forName(java.util.PropertyResourceBundle) )
 #set( $userNameFilePath = $util.getPortalFile($userNameFile) )
 #set( $resStream
  = $fStreamClass.getConstructor( [$stringClass] )
.newInstance( [$userNameFile] ) )
 #set( $resBundle
  = $bundleClass.getConstructor( [$iStreamClass] )
  .newInstance( [$resStream] ) )

 $util object is provided by our application to inject functionality into
 velocity context.
 I succeeded to get $fStreamClass  $iStreamClass  $bundleClass
 But I failed to get $resStream  $resBundle.

 My questions are:
 1. Can I load the specific property file in Velocity context ?
 2. What's wrong with my velocity script ?

 Best Regards, and thanks in advance.
 trad-ex

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Re: Private fields and methods in ResourceLoader

2006-04-20 Thread Will Glass-Husain
That sounds interesting.  Did you remember to call VelocityEngine.init() or
Velocity.init() before parsing a template?

WILL

On 4/20/06, Tim Pizey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I have been trying to write a ResourceLoader, initially a
 FileResourceLoader, but found that I could not extend
 FileResourceLoader as the members and findTemplate method are private.

 This has forced me to a more general solution, where I have a
 ResouceLoader
 which is a decorator to any other and takes the InputStream returned,
 converts it to a String, does Perl5 substitutions on it and then
 converts the String back to an InputStream.

 My code is at work but from memory I do something like

 public abstract class WebMacroResourceLoader extends ResourceLoader {

 private ResourceLoader loader ;

 public void init( ExtendedProperties configuration) {
   loader.init(configuration);
 }

 public InputStream getResourceStream(String templateName) {
if (templateName.endsWith(.wm) {
   // mugle about with Perl5
   // return new input stream
} else
  return loader.getResourceStream(templateName);
 }

 }

 public class WebMacroClasspathResourceLoader extends
 WebMacroResourceLoader {
   public WebMacroClasspathResourceLoader() {
 this.loader = new ClasspathResourceLoader();
   }
 }
 public class WebMacroFileResourceLoader extends WebMacroResourceLoader {
   public WebMacroClasspathResourceLoader() {
 this.loader = new FileResourceLoader();
   }
 }

 Mine feels like a not-unusual requirement, is my approach sensible?
 PS Any idea why I am getting NPE thrown from the init method?

 yours
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Re: Can velocity load a properties file ?

2006-04-20 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Are you sure?  I think #set can be used for any class.

I've proposed to limit this to prohibit reflection by default (such as what
trad-ex is doing), but we haven't applied the patch yet.

WILL

On 4/20/06, Barbara Baughman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You cannot use the #set directive to designate just any kind of JAVA
 object.  See the User Guide for allowable references.  I believe the
 #set directive you have will automatically call the toString method of
 the class in order to set the variable to a valid reference, but you
 can check by printing the value of the set variable.

 Barbara Baughman
 X2157

 On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, trad-ex wrote:

  Hi All,
 
  I tried to load property resource bundle file, but failed to get an
  instance of FileInputStream.
  My code is below:
 
  #set( $fStreamClass = $util.class.forName(java.io.FileInputStream) )
  #set( $iStreamClass = $util.class.forName(java.io.InputStream) )
  #set( $stringClass = $util.class.forName(java.lang.String) )
  #set( $bundleClass
   = $util.class.forName(java.util.PropertyResourceBundle) )
  #set( $userNameFilePath = $util.getPortalFile($userNameFile) )
  #set( $resStream
   = $fStreamClass.getConstructor( [$stringClass] )
 .newInstance( [$userNameFile] ) )
  #set( $resBundle
   = $bundleClass.getConstructor( [$iStreamClass] )
   .newInstance( [$resStream] ) )
 
  $util object is provided by our application to inject functionality into
  velocity context.
  I succeeded to get $fStreamClass  $iStreamClass  $bundleClass
  But I failed to get $resStream  $resBundle.
 
  My questions are:
  1. Can I load the specific property file in Velocity context ?
  2. What's wrong with my velocity script ?
 
  Best Regards, and thanks in advance.
  trad-ex
 
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Re: Cleaned the PoweredByVelocity WikiPage

2006-04-16 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Thanks!  Good idea to remove dead sites.

I'd give people the benefit of the doubt whether they use Velocity or
not.  It's hard to tell from just looking at a site.  (for example,
one of mine has all .htm extensions).

WILL

On 4/16/06, Dominik Bruhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hy,
 I just cleaned the PoweredByVelocity Page in the Velocity-Wiki:
 http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/PoweredByVelocity

 I threw out alle links not working anymore or definitly not showing the
 descirved Content anymore (Domain-Sell-Pages). I left thos pages in which
 don't seem to use velocity (anymore) because I don't want to decide this.

 If anybody got any Problems with these Steps he/she might revert all the
 changes.

 Greetings
 Dominik

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Re: Updated SilentParseInclude

2006-04-14 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Chris,

Thanks for contributing this.  Do you want to edit the Wiki so this
can be preserved?

WILL

On 4/14/06, Townson, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, fixed for me ... Needed to change scope in toolbox and method to 
 templateExists()

 In TemplateExistsTool.exists(), change this:
 return this.engine.resourceExists(template);

 To this:
 return this.engine.templateExists(template);

 And in toolbox.xml, change this:
 scopeapplication/scope

 To this:
 scoperequest/scope

 Anyone else encountered similar?

 C

  -Original Message-
  From: Townson, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 14 April 2006 15:01
  To: velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
  Subject: Updated SilentParseInclude
 
  Hi,
 
  I just noticed Shinobu's updated version of the Fred Toth's
  TemplateExistsTool for the VelocityViewServlet in Velocity
  Tools v.1.2 (details on wiki here:
  http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/SilentParseInclude)
 
  This updated class doesn't seem to work for me (using tools
  1.2 and velocity 1.4 ... i.e. current release versions, not dev tree)
 
  The problem originates with the new exists(String template)
  method: this uses the resourceExists() method which exists
  for org.apache.velocity.app.Velocity (in favour of the
  deprecated templateExists()), but not for
  org.apache.velocityapp.VelocityEngine (which only has the
  templateExists() method ... Not deprecated). I am therefore
  getting a java.lang.Error because the resourceExists() is
  undefined for VelocityEngine.
 
  Changing resourceExists() to templateExists() results in
  NullPointerException.
 
  Can anyone tell me what is going on here?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Chris
 
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Re: Switching from PHP to Java/Velocity, Performance?

2006-04-13 Thread Will Glass-Husain
One of the things I like about Hibernate is that it has request-level
caching automatically.  In other words if you read and write to the
database within a single request, that will only hit the database
once.  It also organizes queries and minimize them.

Another point - if you do clustering you might consider a stateless
app.  (This is very common for PHP).  This solves a lot of the session
cluster problems.

WILL

On 4/13/06, Florin Vancea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, that's what I knew. But that's 1.1.
 Check http://ehcache.sourceforge.net/
 Scroll down to 26 March 2006 1.2 beta 5 released

 - Original Message -
 From: Dominik Bruhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:15 PM
 Subject: Re: Switching from PHP to Java/Velocity, Performance?


  Hy,
  I read the following:
  
  5 Distributed Caching
  Ehcache is not a distributed cache. There are no plans to make it a
  distributed cache. The key design goals of ehcache are simplicity and
  provability. Adding a distribution mechanism to ehcache conflicts with
 those
  goals. Moreover, a requirement for distribution is far less common than
 for
  requirements such as memory and disk storage.
   
 
 http://ehcache.sourceforge.net/documentation/documentation-1_1.html#mozTocId763298
 
  Where did you take the information about the distribution-feature from?
 
  Thanks
  TO
 
 
  Am Thursday 13 April 2006 16:10 schrieb Florin Vancea:
   Yes, easily. You'll find it in docs.
 
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Re: Switching from PHP to Java/Velocity, Performance?

2006-04-13 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Stateless means that there is no in-memory user session.  Track the
user id in a cookie and retrieve any relevant info from the database
each request based on the user id and URL parameters.  This works well
for simple apps which don't need to remember much info from page to
page (I think of Flickr where most stuff is driven by URLs).  The
advantage of that without a user session in memory, you can send the
user request to any server in your cluster.  Not a requirement
(there's other ways to handle this problem) but just an idea.

You'll still need to use a cluster-based cache for database queries. 
This is where a lot of the performance savings can come in.  Possibly
you'd use an abstraction layer (like Spring or Hibernate) that will
let you change cache systems from a single server cache to a clustered
cache when you need to.

WILL


On 4/13/06, Dominik Bruhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hy,
 what does stateless mean? Does it mean that you don't save data between
 requests? So no caching?

 Thanks
 Dominik

 Am Thursday 13 April 2006 17:07 schrieb Will Glass-Husain:
  Another point - if you do clustering you might consider a stateless
  app.  (This is very common for PHP).  This solves a lot of the session

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Re: Switching from PHP to Java/Velocity, Performance?

2006-04-12 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hi Dominik,

Wow, that's a busy site.

The short answer is that writing a high performance application is
mostly about architecture and only partially about language.  If you
read the pages and pages of comments on that famous post, the
intelligent comments mostly boil down to that response.  Caching is
critical, (for both database queries and page generation), as is good
database design.

Velocity is unlikely to be a significant part of your bottleneck as
performance with template caching turned on is quite fast.

WILL



On 4/12/06, Dominik Bruhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hy,
 I currently got a online-community running on a PHP-Bulletin-Board-Software. I
 didn't write the software myself but I modified it over the time so the code
 grew and became quite unreadable, hard to understand and also slow.

 Some data for the site:
 300Users online at the same time
 30661 visitors per day
 10GB Traffic per day

 The site is currently running on two servers, one for the dynamic PHP-Scripts
 and one for the Database (MySQL) and the static content.

 I was thinking about a complete rewrite for a long time and now I started to
 plan it more detailed. As I have used Velocity and Java for another (but
 quite small) project this was what first came into my mind. I also hoped for
 some speed increases from a Java-Application due to the fact that is possible
 to cache the Data-Base Data and save Queries to the DB. I'm also thinking
 about the time when there might be more than one server needed for the site
 (due to increasing visitors).
 My PHP and Java knowledeges are about equal, but I have never done such a big
 project in Java (neither in PHP) and so i'm searching for help.

 On my search through the internet I found a webpage where they told that
 friendster (really big site) switched from java to PHP due to performance.
 This made me think about my decision.
 http://troutgirl.com/blog/index.php?/archives/22_Friendster_goes_PHP.html

 I fear programming the whole Website in Java and then recognizing that its
 much to slow for this purpose. Thats why I write to this mailinglist. Are
 there any people who made a similar step from php to java and can tell about
 performance gains or looses.

 Can anybody else tell me where there are differences and how the influence the
 performance.

 Thanks
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Re: Switching from PHP to Java/Velocity, Performance?

2006-04-12 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Oh, no.  Here come the religious arguments.  Although you'll likely
find more Java than PHP programmers on this list!

To be fair, although I'm a Java programmer I attended a compelling
presentation on designing scalable apps with PHP.  (Taught by Cal
Henderson of Flickr).  So, I'm wary of blanket statements condemning
scripting languages or PHP.
http://www.carsonworkshops.com/dev/henderson/20JUN2005_photos.html

Anyone have good practical resources/articles on scalable web app
design to point Dominik towards?

WILL



On 4/12/06, Peter Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dominik Bruhn wrote:
  Hy Will,
  thanks to your response. My question was not only concerning Velocity but 
  also
  about Java in General in Comparison to PHP. I hope that there are some
  Developers who have user Java and Velocity in realy huge sites.
 

 You must also consider complexity. If you have a site which is simple
 then PHP will probably be fine, even under heavy load. However, if your
 application is complex then Java shows its mettle.

 You *can* write nice PHP code, but it requires a disciplined developer.
 You can also write horrible Java code, although its less permissive
 about what it allows at compile time (strong typing).

 The point is that each language has its role, and I think blanket
 statements like PHP is not a language are not helpful. Python for
 example is a great language, and we have used it several times to
 develop quick solutions that would have been substantially more
 difficult in Java.

 However, with the infrastructure around Java/Struts/Velocity the actual
 code you have to write is greatly reduced, and whats left is simplified.
 For web apps Java/Tomcat/Struts/Velocity remains a credible and
 effective solution.

 The downside to Java I feel is a pretty long learning curve compared to
 other languages. It is certainly more verbose, and has quite a few
 elements that make life complex.

 PHP and Python on the other hand have not developed the same
 infrastructure to date, although if you want a CMS there are many
 options that will be a good start.

 As for performance, I must agree that performance is a question of
 architecture and complexity. Complex applications will be slower because
 they need more DB time and more CPU. The best way to handle this is - as
 a previous poster said, keep everything cached where possible, hit the
 db the least possible, and keep the architecture open so you can deploy
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Re: Getting the protocol of actual page

2006-04-11 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hi Gustavo,

It depends what is in the context.  If you have the HTTPRequest object
in the context with the name request, then $request.getScheme() is
exactly right.

Are you using VelocityViewServlet, VelocityServilet or some other servlet?

WILL

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  I want to know if actual page is secure or insecure, then how
  can I get
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  Thanks!
 
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Re: UTF8-Enconding in Macros

2006-04-09 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hi,

A quick look at the source suggests this isn't currently possible. 
Anyone else have any ideas on this?

If you'd care to file a JIRA issue on this we'll probably add this
capability.  It seems an obvious miss.
http://issues.apache.org/JIRA

Best, WILL

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 Hy,
 I encode all my templates in UTF-8, and I load them via
 getTemplate(frame.vm,UTF-8);

 I also use some macros, all of them are written in the VM_global_library.vm
 which Velocity loads at startup. The Problem is: This library isn't loaded
 with UTF8 encoding. How can I change this?

 Thanks
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Re: using Velocity in an untrusted environment

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Re: using Velocity in an untrusted environment

2006-04-06 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hi Ben,

You probably don't have an issue with #include though it depends how
you organize the templates.

In our case, I load templates specific to a given user via part of the
path, e.g. /will/abc.htm.  Hence we needed an event handler to
decide if you have permission to include the files or not.  If you
don't indicate user specific info on the path you're likely ok.  It's
probably pretty obvious whether this is the case or not.

In regards to unescaped HTML, do a Google search on Cross-Site
Scripting.  Esentially, the issue is that if user A can insert text
that appears on User B's screen, you need to prevent that text from
including arbitrary HTML or JavaScript.  The easiest way to do this is
to convert all entities (e.g.  into lt;).

I'll have to think about the rendering cost issue.  I agree with
Nathan in that I'm reluctant to add a lot of complexity to the core to
address this.  I suggest either putting such code in a custom plugin
(e.g. the ReferenceInsertEventHandler) that checks for resource
activity and throws a RuntimeException if appropriate, or adding such
a routine externally to Velocity in some type of thread handler. 
(e.g. it launches Velocity in a thread and kills the thread if it
takes too long -- is that possible?  I'm not a thread guru).

Best, WILL



On 4/6/06, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Will, I appreciate your response.

 Two more questions though, in my project the templates are kept inside a
 MySQL database and are loaded by a custom class from there, does this mean I
 don't have to worry about the #include and the #parse loading another user's
 templates, since they only load them from a directory on the hard-drive?

 Also I dont' fully understand the problem of unescaped HTML inside the
 templates, what kind of issues can be expected from that in my case, where
 users are allowed to upload their own templates anyway, or it only applies
 in a case where they don't have permission to do this?

 I'll be happy to share my solution about interrupting the rendering process,
 if I come up with a generic way which can be applied to other projects
 besides mine. Ideally I would like this to be a function of Velocity itself,
 where for every operation it does it would assign some number, which would
 be the cost of that operation, and then the developer would have the ability
 to set the maximum cost, after which velocity would automatically interrupt
 the rendering process. Another option would be for it to save the starting
 date/time of the rendering process, and then every now and then to check how
 much time has passes, and if the time limit has expired to interrupt the
 rendering process. I am not sure I have sufficient understanding of the
 Velocity source code to do this though, can anybody who knows the Velocity
 code well tell me if any of these two options are feasable, and if yes, what
 class/classes would I need to modify for this?

 Thanks,
 Ben

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 Hi Ben,

 I run a web site with some hundreds of users who upload their own
 Velocity templates.  It works pretty well.  We've tried to address
 most security-related issues, but so far we've just ignored the
 potential DenialOfService issue and haven't had any trouble.

 As far as the classloader patch goes, you can put it into a custom
 Uberspector and use it right now.  A little complicated, but it works.

 Some of the other items in the article have been fixed.  The current
 source control head contains an Event Handler which can automatically
 escape HTML.  There's also a new event handler that can be used to
 modify #include and #parse (say, to prevent one user from including
 files of another user).

 In Tomcat you can set up catalina.policy to restrict access to files
 outside the webapp using the Java security manager.  It takes a little
 trial and error to get this right.  Most third-party libraries (e.g.
 Velocity, Hibernate, etc.) require certain permissions and these are
 almost never documented.  I can share mine if that's helpful although
 it's pretty specific to my apps.

 Finally, you need to be very careful as to what you put in the
 context.  Any methods that allow access to files, databases and other
 resources are actively dangerous.

 WILL

 On 4/5/06, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, this is really more Will's area of expertise.  I have the luxury
  of not letting users of my apps define their own templates.  So, i've
  not had any need to use a JavaSecurityManager.
 
  The language in the article is a little unclear.  Version 1.6 has not
  started development yet.  We are still tweaking 1.5 in our
  collectively scarce free time.  It's more that the patch in question
  has been put on the roadmap for 1.6.
 
  In the meantime, the info and references

Re: using Velocity in an untrusted environment

2006-04-06 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Thanks - let us know what you find...

On 4/6/06, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for pointing the way, I'll definitely take a look at the SimpleNode
 class and see if it can be used for my purpose. I don't want to use a
 separate thread since by me the render function is called from within a
 servlet running inside resin, so what i'll probably do is have it check the
 time, let's say every 10,000/100,000/1,000,000  loops or so, depending on
 how many loops it does per second, and if it's past the time limit stop the
 render process, or maybe just limit the rendering process to a certain
 amount of loops, to prevent people from writing templates with a near
 infinite loop. I do some work with Yahoo's RTML scripting language, which is
 being interpreted by a perl script running on Yahoo's servers, and I think
 that's what Yahoo does, limit the loops to 10,000,000 iterations or so.

 If people are interested I can paste the results of my experiment when I am
 done, as well as any modifications I make.



 Hmm.  To be honest, I'm not interested in having this be an
 out-of-the-box piece of Velocity.  Adding this maximum cost option
 for every operation it does would mean a performance hit, a big rise
 in complexity, or both.  I would want to see a lot of interest in this
 from others before i would let this change go through without vetoing
 it.  I really don't think this is something most of our users want or
 need.  No one else has asked for it (to my memory) in the five years
 i've been around.

 For you, however, it ought to be fairly easy straightforward to create
 a VelocityRunnable that you can start in a new Thread to do the
 template merge/render and then have the request thread check up on it
 (sleeping in between checks, of course) periodically.

 The tricky part is stopping the rendering thread when it goes over
 time.  It's not really safe to use the deprecated Thread.stop()
 method.  The recommended replacement
 (http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/misc/threadPrimitiveDeprecation.html)
 is to create velocityRunnable.stop() method that can flip a flag to
 interrupt the rendering.  But Velocity doesn't have any built in way
 to *interrupt* the rendering.  The only thing i'm aware of is the
 #stop directives ability to make Velocity stop sending output to the
 writer.  So far as i know, it doesn't actually stop the template
 processing (personally, i think it'd be better if it did).

 To actually stop template processing, you will probably have to alter
 some of the internals yourself.  The driver of the rendering process
 is a simple for() loop in the render(context, writer) method of the
 SimpleNode class.  all the nodes extend this class, so this method is
 how the AST is traversed.  I would imagine that the real way to do
 this would be to somehow put the flag in that for() loop's conditional
 that would be shared by all nodes in that template.  That probably
 means you need a flag that resides in the context that's being passed
 around.  When the flag is tripped, no further nodes should be
 rendered.

 Of course, i'm not 100% sure that that is all you'll need to change,
 and it also might not catch all possible problems.  For instance, if
 it is the rendering of a particular leaf on the AST that is taking
 forever, then this won't stop that node's rendering; it would only
 stop further traversal of the tree.  Still, that is hopefully enough
 info to get you started...

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Re: Velocity vs. WebMacro performance

2006-04-04 Thread Will Glass-Husain
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Re: Missing inequality in VTL documentation

2006-03-30 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Turns out we already fixed this for 1.5.  Thanks for reporting it though!

WILL

On 3/29/06, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for catching this.  We'll fix it in the next release.

 Best,
 WILL

 On 3/29/06, Mike Bridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One of our designers was confused by the lack of an inequality operator
  in the VTL documentation at:
 
  http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/docs/vtl-reference-guide.html
 
  I think the following lines are missing from the if/then/else section:
 
   Not Equal to Number: #if( $foo != 42 )
   Not Equal to String: #if( $foo != bar )
 
  Thanks,
 
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Re: Trouble using TexenTask

2006-03-30 Thread Will Glass-Husain
That's strange.  Is there the same problem with the vanilla Texen task?

I don't see any obvious gotchas. (though I'm not a regular Texen user).

WILL

On 3/29/06, Philip A Grim II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings,

 I have been using Velocity to generate code for quite some time now, but
 I've tried something for the first time recently and it's not working.
 I have a class that derives from TexenTask that I call from Ant that
 invokes my code generation system.  I set the templatePath property on
 the task to point to one directory, call the task a number of times
 (which all work fine) then call the task with a different templatePath
 and it fails saying that the control template cannot be found.  The
 output from ant -debug shows the task claiming to use the templatePath
 that I set, and the control template exists on that path, so I don't
 understand what the problem is.  Here is an example:

 fomgen
   controlTemplate=cppPCOMFileIncludeControl.vm
   outputDirectory=${cpp.om.path}
   templatePath=${cpp.template.path}/PCOM   // This one works
   outputFile = build.log
 /

 fomgen
   controlTemplate=cppPluginControl.vm
   outputDirectory=${cpp.plugin.path}
   templatePath=${cpp.template.path}/RTI1_3  // This one fails
   outputFile = build.log
 /

 If I reorder the tasks to call the broken one first and the working one
 second, the error moves...in other words, the first one I call always
 works, and the second always fails.

 Here is the error from velocity.log:

 Wed Mar 29 11:30:49 EST 2006  [error] ResourceManager : unable to find
 resource 'cppPluginControl.vm' in any resource loader.

 I'd appreciate any insight you could offer.

 Thanks.
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Re: Trouble using TexenTask

2006-03-30 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Thanks.  In fact, if you care to take the trouble, you should open up
a bug report at

http://issues.apache.org/jira

and attach the test case.  This will help us track the issue and resolution.

Otherwise if you post the code I'll open it up.

Best, WILL


On 3/30/06, Philip A Grim II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, I put together a trivial test case using just the vanilla TexenTask
 and a couple of little templates and the behavior is the same...if you
 change the template path and call the task again, it fails, even though
 the new path is valid and the control template exists.

 I can send you a tar file with my test case if you want it.

 Phil

 On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 01:21 -0800, Will Glass-Husain wrote:
  That's strange.  Is there the same problem with the vanilla Texen task?
 
  I don't see any obvious gotchas. (though I'm not a regular Texen user).
 
  WILL
 
  On 3/29/06, Philip A Grim II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Greetings,
  
   I have been using Velocity to generate code for quite some time now, but
   I've tried something for the first time recently and it's not working.
   I have a class that derives from TexenTask that I call from Ant that
   invokes my code generation system.  I set the templatePath property on
   the task to point to one directory, call the task a number of times
   (which all work fine) then call the task with a different templatePath
   and it fails saying that the control template cannot be found.  The
   output from ant -debug shows the task claiming to use the templatePath
   that I set, and the control template exists on that path, so I don't
   understand what the problem is.  Here is an example:
  
   fomgen
 controlTemplate=cppPCOMFileIncludeControl.vm
 outputDirectory=${cpp.om.path}
 templatePath=${cpp.template.path}/PCOM   // This one works
 outputFile = build.log
   /
  
   fomgen
 controlTemplate=cppPluginControl.vm
 outputDirectory=${cpp.plugin.path}
 templatePath=${cpp.template.path}/RTI1_3  // This one fails
 outputFile = build.log
   /
  
   If I reorder the tasks to call the broken one first and the working one
   second, the error moves...in other words, the first one I call always
   works, and the second always fails.
  
   Here is the error from velocity.log:
  
   Wed Mar 29 11:30:49 EST 2006  [error] ResourceManager : unable to find
   resource 'cppPluginControl.vm' in any resource loader.
  
   I'd appreciate any insight you could offer.
  
   Thanks.
   Phil
  
  
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Re: Missing inequality in VTL documentation

2006-03-29 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Thanks for catching this.  We'll fix it in the next release.

Best,
WILL

On 3/29/06, Mike Bridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of our designers was confused by the lack of an inequality operator
 in the VTL documentation at:

 http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/docs/vtl-reference-guide.html

 I think the following lines are missing from the if/then/else section:

  Not Equal to Number: #if( $foo != 42 )
  Not Equal to String: #if( $foo != bar )

 Thanks,

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Re: ternary operator

2006-03-28 Thread Will Glass-Husain
I don't think this is supported.

On 3/28/06, Michael Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 Is it possible to use the ternary operator in a set directive? I tried
 the fallowing set directive but it didn't work,  is there an alternative
 way to do this without and if else statement?

 #set($test = $command == null ? 'its null' : 'not null')
 $test

 thanks,
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Re: Macro not executed on first load

2006-03-28 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hi Gunnar,

This is a known bug.  See
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-146

Best advice - don't define a in a parsed file and use it in the main file.

You might also try the config setting
velocimacro.permissions.allow.inline.local.scope

WILL

On 3/28/06, Gunnar Wagenknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 I've defined a macro in a file that is included in a template using
 #parse. On the first page load the macro call is not executed but
 printed as is.  If I reload the page immediately it works as desired.

 Any ideas?

 Cu, Gunnar

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Re: #parse expensive ?

2006-03-24 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hi Andrew,

I don't have much specific feedback on this, except be sure template
caching is turned on.  Otherwise, performance testing is the key.  If
you find anything useful, let us know!

WILL

On 3/24/06, Andrew Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guiys,
 Just wondering how expensive a #parse() is in terms of time taken to render a
 page? I have a few servlets which take between 12-18 ms to do the
 getTemplate() method. I'm not sure if this is extremely fast for the amount
 of work it's doing or about average or slow. The getTemplate() function seems
 to be the most time consuming thing the servlet is doing, the rest combined
 is between 4-6ms  The servlet isn't particularly slow but I am always looking
 for ways to speed things up. Are there operations that I should avoid in the
 templates.

 kind regards
 Andrew M

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Re: How to stop a loop (#foreach)

2006-03-23 Thread Will Glass-Husain
There's no break or continue statement.  You need to use an inner #if
statement that only evaluates for the first X elements.

WILL

On 3/22/06, Pham Anh Tuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I don't know how we can stop a loop or #foreach?

 help me plz

 thanks in advance

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Re: Collect variables from a template

2006-03-22 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Ok, glad you will be able to get your needs met.

WILL

On 3/22/06, Holger Willebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Der Will,

 I'm sorry that i can't give you results of testing with 1.5-dev, as i
 didn't manage to get velocity-1.5-dev compiled yet. Should I take it
 from the snapshosts or is there a 1.5-dev jar ?

 I need to get this working and can't spent much time on experiments.
 I took a look at the TemplateTool and it seems to be suitable (Thanks,
 Claude), so i for myself am through with this issue ;-)

 Thanks for your replies.

 Holger

 Will Glass-Husain wrote:
  Also, have you tried this with the latest source code?  (velocity
  1.5dev)?   If so, can you give us the exception trace with the latest
  source?
 
  WILL
 
  On 3/15/06, Claude Brisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 Maybe you can check the TemplateTool in the experimental section :
 
 
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/velocity/engine/trunk/experimental/templatetool/TemplateTool.java
 
   Claude
 
 Le mercredi 15 mars 2006 à 11:07 +0100, Holger Willebrandt a écrit :
 

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Re: confusion regarding velocity versions...

2006-03-16 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Whoops!  The home page is wrong.  The current version is 1.4.

The patch is in the as-yet-unreleased-1.5 (along with numerous other new
features).  This can be downloaded (source) at
http://svn.apache.org/snapshots/jakarta-velocity/

For info on building, see
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/build.html

And feel free to ask for help on the list.

WILL

On 3/16/06, Piyush Purang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am very interested in the
 http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17379 being fixed.

 Bug status shows taht it'll be fixed for 1.5 eventhough the patch is in. I
 went on looking for a milestone build but couldn't find any.

 http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ goes on to state that the The current
 release version is version 1.5. which is followed by a link
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_velocity-engine.cgithat
 isn't found (404). Maven ditribution and
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_velocity.cgi
 only provide 1.4 release.

 I hope someone fixes the error on the homepage or relases 1.5... I'd
 rather
 see the second happening ;)

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Re: Collect variables from a template

2006-03-15 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Also, have you tried this with the latest source code?  (velocity
1.5dev)?   If so, can you give us the exception trace with the latest
source?

WILL

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 Hi.

 Maybe you can check the TemplateTool in the experimental section :


 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/velocity/engine/trunk/experimental/templatetool/TemplateTool.java

   Claude

 Le mercredi 15 mars 2006 à 11:07 +0100, Holger Willebrandt a écrit :
  Hello everybody,
 
  i would like to parse a velocity template and collect information about
  all variables that are used within it.
  Therefore, i use the Parser class in the following way:
 
  //here a reader for the template and a collector for the variables
  //will be supplied
  public static void findVariables(Reader reader, List collector)
throws ParseException {
VelocityCharStream cstream = new VelocityCharStream(reader, 0, 0);
Parser parser = new Parser(cstream);
findVariables(parser.process(), collector); //call method below
  }
 
  //this method will recursively collect the variables and store them
  //in the collector.
  public static void findVariables(Node startNode, List collector) {
if (startNode.getClass().equals(ASTReference.class)) {
if (!collector.contains(startNode.literal())) {
collector.add(startNode.literal());
}
}
for (int i = 0; i  startNode.jjtGetNumChildren(); i++) {
findVariables(startNode.jjtGetChild(i), collector);
}
  }
 
  The code is working as long as the template does not contain a #foreach
 statement.
  Whenever i try to parse velocity code with a #foreach, i get the
 following error:
 
  java.lang.NullPointerException
   at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.Parser.Directive(
 Parser.java:628)
   at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.Parser.Statement(
 Parser.java:319)
   at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.Parser.process(
 Parser.java:258)
 
  Looking into velocity's source code, revealed that the Parser is missing
 a
  RuntimeServices instance, resp. a template name.
 
  It would be nice to have a way of collecting all variables and
 validating the
  synatx (a ParseException would indicate a syntax error) at once.
 
  Any kind of help or advice is welcome.
 
  Thanks, Holger
 
 
 
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Re: Features

2006-03-10 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hey, just a quick comment.  Check the velocity-user archives for extensive
velocity versus freemarker conversation.  This has been hashed to death
here in previous months... might be more productive to take the FreeMarker
specific part of the conversation to the FreeMarker list.

WILL

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 Hi, Jonathan,

 I am a bit sad to see that the Velocity project hasn't been that active
 these days, particularly with the much needed enhancements still pending.

 However, I just don't like FreeMarker for the following major reasons:

 1) FreeMarker tags look similar as html tags.

 2) Too much feature in FreeMarker. The template engine language should be
 succinct. Otherwise, it might give people too much flexibility in
 templating.

 I would hope to have a better version of Velocity though, with the bug
 fixes
 and correct feature enhancements.

 Jian
 Lead Developer, Seattle Lighting

 On 3/10/06, Jonathan Revusky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Jurica Viskovic wrote:
   Will , thanks!
  
   Last night i looked at source to see how
   to simply implement those new features, but
   it seems it will not be as easy as i thought.
 
  The fact is that if nobody even gives you any pointers as to where to
  look, where the crucial points in the code are, it's not generally going
  to be easy. Some people are surely better at this than others, but I
  personally find it very hard to get into an unfamiliar codebase and
  understand the mind behind it.
 
  I think it's only fair to tell you and anybody else interested in having
  macros work this way, that this is already available in FreeMarker. For
  example, if I define a macro as follows:
 
  #macro foo bar baz=some default value
  ...
  /#macro
 
  it can be invoked with either one or two arguments. The baz argument
  reverts to the default value when it is invoked with just one argument.
 
  Macros with can be invoked with the parameters by name, as in:
 
  @foo bar=arg1 baz=arg2/
 
  If I listed all the other other goodies in FreeMarker's macro system
  that are not present in Velocity, this message would get quite long.
 See:
 
  http://freemarker.org/docs/dgui_misc_userdefdir.html
 
  These features have been present in FreeMarker for 3 years or more and
  many people use this stuff in production and it is highly stress tested.
  An existing mature tool that already has the features you want is likley
  to be a better technical solution.
 
  Jonathan Revusky
  --
  lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/
 
 
 
 
 
   Anyway i will forward this discussion on developers
   mailing list.
  
  
   Regards, jure
 
 
 
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Re: problem loading templates

2006-03-10 Thread Will Glass-Husain
A snapshot of the (unreleased) Velocity 1.5 code is available here.
http://svn.apache.org/snapshots/jakarta-velocity/

(I notice the link on the website is wrong - I'll fix that).

You'll need to install ant and type ant build after cd'ing to the build
directory.


You can also access the source code with Subversion (svn).  More info here.
http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html

If you get stuck, give a holler on the list.

Best, WILL

On 3/10/06, Richard Huegill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 so whats the easiest way to get to the most recent build ?
 the latest code from the source control head

 thanks

 Richard


 From: Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
 To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: Re: problem loading templates
 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:37:40 -0800
 
 George is right.
 
 Or use the latest code from the source control head, which solves this
 problem.  (It looks in the Thread's context classloader so it finds the
 templates).
 
 WILL
 
 
 On 3/6/06, George Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Are you using classpath loader?
  
   If yes, then put your templates jar (jar which have the velocity
   templates) in the same directory as velocity.jar.
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Richard Huegill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:43 AM
   To: velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
   Subject: problem loading templates
  
   I have an app which has templates, in web-inf/templates dir. (working
   fine).
   I decided to move all my jars from the war file to the common dir
 under
   tomcat. now I can't load my templates, same directory, but it can't
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Re: Features

2006-03-09 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hi Jurica,

Sure, we'd welcome help to implement those features.

Thanks for offering!

WILL

On 3/9/06, Jurica Viskovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hy.

 I have a bit different question about velocity.
 Velocity is great, simple and efficient and we have 2 projects
 using velocity as view. I was wondering is there some workaround to
 implement some new features in velocity or is there some work in progress
 to implement those features.

 New features:
 - accept macros with same name but different number of arguments
   #macro(img $src)
   #macro(img $src $properties)

 - passing macro arguments as (name=value) pair
   #img(src=/images/text.gif properties=border=0)


 If I can help with implementing this new features I will gladly do it.

 Regards, jure



 PS: i am using intelliJ IDEA and if someone has some plug-in for velocity
 or
   some syntax highlighter please send it to it will be of great help.

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Re: Features

2006-03-09 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Sure.  A good starting point are these links:

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/CodeStandards

And the Velocity Wiki in general:
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/

You can submit ideas for features and bug patches on the velocity-developer
list, or create an issue on our JIRA issue tracking system.  (use the list
for general ideas and discussion and use JIRA for submitting patches or
requesting certain features).
https://issues.apache.org/jira/

Best, WILL

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 Ok!

 I never developed for open source project
 so can you give me some pointers on how i can help.


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Re: #macro recursion

2006-03-08 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Yes, but their are some pecularities about scoping.

Do you have this property set to true?
velocimacro.context.localscope

I'm not experienced in Macro recursion, but I suggest you try that.  Maybe
someone else would chime in who works with recursion macros.  Or check the
archives.  (the topic has come up before).

WILL


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 Is it possible for #macro()s to recurse?



 I'm attempting recursion but the output is not as expected and I'm not
 sure whether it's due to my code or whether recursion is not supported.





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Re: problem loading templates

2006-03-07 Thread Will Glass-Husain
What is common.jars?

On 3/6/06, Richard Huegill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Is there a way that I can have my common.jars in the common/lib and only
 my
 application specific ones in the webapp (just easier to only deploy
 changes
 in 1 war file) ?

 if i Have to have them in the same dir, then i have to have them both in
 the
 war with any other dependencies (which makes a big war file)

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 To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: Re: problem loading templates
 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:37:40 -0800
 
 George is right.
 
 Or use the latest code from the source control head, which solves this
 problem.  (It looks in the Thread's context classloader so it finds the
 templates).
 
 WILL
 
 
 On 3/6/06, George Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Are you using classpath loader?
  
   If yes, then put your templates jar (jar which have the velocity
   templates) in the same directory as velocity.jar.
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
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   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:43 AM
   To: velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
   Subject: problem loading templates
  
   I have an app which has templates, in web-inf/templates dir. (working
   fine).
   I decided to move all my jars from the war file to the common dir
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   tomcat. now I can't load my templates, same directory, but it can't
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Re: problem loading templates

2006-03-06 Thread Will Glass-Husain
George is right.

Or use the latest code from the source control head, which solves this
problem.  (It looks in the Thread's context classloader so it finds the
templates).

WILL


On 3/6/06, George Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you using classpath loader?

 If yes, then put your templates jar (jar which have the velocity
 templates) in the same directory as velocity.jar.



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 Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:43 AM
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 I have an app which has templates, in web-inf/templates dir. (working
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 I decided to move all my jars from the war file to the common dir under
 tomcat. now I can't load my templates, same directory, but it can't find

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Re: New MVC Framework

2006-03-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Thanks for sharing this!  Don't forget to add it to the PoweredByVelocity
section on the Wiki.

WILL


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Re: PANIC : Velocity cannot find any of the specified or default logging ...

2006-02-21 Thread Will Glass-Husain
What's a VelocityGen?  That's not in the Velocity distribution.  Do the 
error messages list what class was causing the problem?


- Original Message - 
From: Pascual Queralt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:47 AM
Subject: PANIC : Velocity cannot find any of the specified or default 
logging ...



Hi,
I need a little of help.
My plugin in Eclipse that use Velocity was working fine, but suddenly I've 
got this velocity message.


systems in the classpath, or the classpath doesn't contain the necessary 
classes to support them. Please consult the documentation regarding logging. 
Exception : java.lang.NoClassDefFound


It happens just when I execute this instruction.

  VGenerator = new VelocityGen();

Any ideas will be helpfull.

Many thanks.

   Pascual


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Re: PANIC : Velocity cannot find any of the specified or default logging ...

2006-02-21 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Pascual,

I've never seen that error message in connection with Velocity.  Did you say
you were writing a plugin?  It's probably an Eclipse classpath problem.  Or 
are you running under some type of restrictive security policy?


You might consider using the VelocityEngine instead of Velocity.
Velocity.init() sets up a singleton - all other uses of Velocity in the same
classloader will share all the properties.  If you create a VelocityEngine
you can have different instances with different properties.

WILL


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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:01 AM
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Hi Will,

I mean the instruction
  Velocity.init();

the velocitygen is only a constructor that binds values to the velocity
properties.



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What's a VelocityGen?  That's not in the Velocity distribution.  Do the
error messages list what class was causing the problem?

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To: Velocity Users List velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:47 AM
Subject: PANIC : Velocity cannot find any of the specified or default
logging ...


Hi,
I need a little of help.
My plugin in Eclipse that use Velocity was working fine, but suddenly
I've got this velocity message.

systems in the classpath, or the classpath doesn't contain the necessary
classes to support them. Please consult the documentation regarding
logging. Exception : java.lang.NoClassDefFound

It happens just when I execute this instruction.

  VGenerator = new VelocityGen();

Any ideas will be helpfull.

Many thanks.

   Pascual


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Re: PANIC : Velocity cannot find any of the specified or default logging ...

2006-02-21 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Of course!

Forgot about the basics...

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Sounds like you are using the vanilla velocity.jar without the
necessary dependencies.  You either need to use the velocity-dep.jar
included in your distribution, or else make sure that either logkit or
log4j are in the classpath.

On 2/21/06, Pascual Queralt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I need a little of help.
My plugin in Eclipse that use Velocity was working fine, but suddenly I've 
got this velocity message.


systems in the classpath, or the classpath doesn't contain the necessary 
classes to support them. Please consult the documentation regarding 
logging. Exception : java.lang.NoClassDefFound


It happens just when I execute this instruction.

   VGenerator = new VelocityGen();

Any ideas will be helpfull.

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Re: wanting to preprocess Velocity templates

2006-02-17 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Thanks for the followup...

Just a caution - be aware that VelocityEngine.evaluate does not cache 
templates.  There's a substantial performance improvement for using 
mergeTemplate instead which will cache the parsed template.


WILL


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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:38 AM
Subject: re: wanting to preprocess Velocity templates


I solved my problem.
I just had to override doRequest(...) in VelocityViewServlet,
use evaluate(...) etc.

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