[Veritas-bu] Puredisk client - cluster

2010-01-12 Thread smpt
Hi to all,

Has anyone installed a puredisk client on a cluster system?

I cannot find any information. 

My thoughts are:

How to install the client at the cluster nodes and how to backup the cluster
resources.

 

Any info I can get will be useful.

Thanks 

Stefanos

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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread Thomas Hemmingby Espe
We are about to set up a system with a NBU SAN Media Server to give
the system direct access to tape drives
due to high throughput requirements.

I have not been able to find any documentation on how to install and
set up this. Is it so that we should perform
an ordinary media server installation and configuration? Is it only
the license that is different?

Sincerely

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Tom
If the San Media, is going to talk to the Master Robot, then you will
need an SSO (Shared Storage Option) license as well.

Essentially, its the license file that is different. When you install
the software and prompted for the license key, enter this, then choose
MEDIA SERVER and follow the normal installation prompts.

Run Device Configuration Wizard once all the update or updates are
applied to your system and you should be good to go!
Simon 

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We are about to set up a system with a NBU SAN Media Server to give the
system direct access to tape drives due to high throughput requirements.

I have not been able to find any documentation on how to install and set
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installation and configuration? Is it only the license that is
different?

Sincerely

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread monalisa.kundu
Hi,

Yes the configuration is same as ordinary media server only the license 
differ.by enabling this license you can create the storage unit for the 
particular media server and take its SAN backup.

thanks  regards,
 
Monalisa Kundu 


 
 
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

We are about to set up a system with a NBU SAN Media Server to give
the system direct access to tape drives
due to high throughput requirements.

I have not been able to find any documentation on how to install and
set up this. Is it so that we should perform
an ordinary media server installation and configuration? Is it only
the license that is different?

Sincerely

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[Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread briandiven

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success.  I recall hearing at one time that it was around 85-86% ...
What do you believe this to be?

TIA

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread ckstehman
Hi Brian

We average around 98% success rate on our production servers. 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread Harpreet SINGH
Hi,

My side success rate is about +98%. As of now we are only on
Solaris/Redhat, Oracle and Oracle Applications only.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread smpt
One of my customers has about 7,000 jobs per day and his failed jobs are 100
jobs/day.
85% success is very bad ratio. Unless you have known problems to your
environment (bad servers or infrastructure)
stefanos

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TIA

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Any companies that restore legacy platforms andsoftware?

2010-01-12 Thread Lightner, Jeff
I used these folks years ago to get data off a corrupt hard drive and
send it to me on tape.   Looking at their site today and a few times in
the past when the question has come up indicates they still do this kind
of work though I've not had the need in a long time.   The site has a
fair amount of detail on formats and softwares they work with.

 

http://pivar.com/

 

 



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You don't say where you are looking for this service. I used these folks
in Melbourne, Australia to recover some data off an old DLT tape that
was backed up with Arcserve. The data was delivered to me on a series of
DVDs. The service provided was exactly as described, and the cost was
reasonable.

 

http://www.techneticsdata.com.au/

 

Cheers

Dean

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I'm looking for a company that is able to do legacy platform restores of
old operating systems and software versions.  I knew of 1 or 2 companies
many years ago that use to provide a service of restoring your older
backups if you couldn't anymore.

Some examples would be restoring from older DLT, LTO or even 9840 media
that contains backups of Solaris 7 or 8 hosts running older version of
Oracle.  You can't even buy a SUN server anymore that doesn't require
Solaris 10 as a minimum.  A similar thing can apply for legacy Exchange
backups from versions such as 2000 and even 5.5.

Anyone know any companies still around that offer a service such as
this?

Thanks!

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
I aim for 99% - In almost all cases, the system is setup to self
behave and re-try jobs if it has failed after a certain amount of
hours.
 
I have left a backup system for weeks, and it has been problem free.
Simon



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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup migration

2010-01-12 Thread Asiye Yigit
 

Hello,

Is it supported to move netbackup catalog on SPARC processor  (Soalris
10) to  AMD Opteron processor (Solaris 10 X64) with the same hostname?

Regards

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup migration

2010-01-12 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Asiye Yigit asiye.yi...@gantek.com wrote:

  Is it supported to move netbackup catalog on SPARC processor  (Soalris
 10) to  AMD Opteron processor (Solaris 10 X64) with the same hostname?


Cross-platform catalog moves are not supported.  In this case you're going
from SPARC to x64.  I can't comment on whether or not it will work, but I'm
pretty sure it's unsupported.  You can/should open a case with Symantec to
verify.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Any companies that restore legacy platforms and software?

2010-01-12 Thread Justin Piszcz
I have also heard good things and have had one or two extensive 
discussions with their engineers, they seem (have not tried them yet) but 
from talking to them, they know all things netbackup and have tools to do 
things you can't do with the regular NBU suite.

Justin.

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote:

 Try dataSPAN (Formerly known as Media Recovery)

 My salesman name is Doug Waterman  713-554-9301 (cell 713-516-8567)
 I am in Texas but I know they do work elsewhere in the country.


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 I'm looking for a company that is able to do legacy platform restores of
 old operating systems and software versions.  I knew of 1 or 2 companies
 many years ago that use to provide a service of restoring your older
 backups if you couldn't anymore.

 Some examples would be restoring from older DLT, LTO or even 9840 media
 that contains backups of Solaris 7 or 8 hosts running older version of
 Oracle.  You can't even buy a SUN server anymore that doesn't require
 Solaris 10 as a minimum.  A similar thing can apply for legacy Exchange
 backups from versions such as 2000 and even 5.5.

 Anyone know any companies still around that offer a service such as
 this?

 Thanks!

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup migration

2010-01-12 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
You may find its not supported (I think they refer to Symantec
Consultancy for this), but I had done one before on a Windows
environment, and although not supported at the time, it had worked for
me.
 
Simon
 
 



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Hello,

Is it supported to move netbackup catalog on SPARC processor  (Soalris
10) to  AMD Opteron processor (Solaris 10 X64) with the same hostname?

Regards

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
It acts much like a normal media server and you just do that, you just
have to get the license installed to allow it to be a SAN Media server.

As such it can only back itself up.

If you have direct attached drives you issue.
If you have a library - you can have some drives just used by that
server (but if those drives fail it cannot use any of the other drives
in the library)  If you want your normal media server and your SAN media
server to use any drives in the library you will need to get an SSO
license so they can all share the same drives.

Not that setting up a SAN media server does not make it backup over the
san... if you want that you will have to set up the Fibre Transport -
you will need to look more into that as it only works with specific
hardware.


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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:28 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

We are about to set up a system with a NBU SAN Media Server to give
the system direct access to tape drives
due to high throughput requirements.

I have not been able to find any documentation on how to install and
set up this. Is it so that we should perform
an ordinary media server installation and configuration? Is it only
the license that is different?

Sincerely

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[Veritas-bu] Robot vendors

2010-01-12 Thread WALLEBROEK Bart
We are in the process of replacing our STK 9310 (PowderHorn).

Does anybody have any experience (good AND bad) with large (+700 slots) robots 
from following vendors:

HP
IBM
Spectra-Logic
Quantum
SUN (SL3000 in particular)

Thx.

Best Regards,
Bart WALLEBROEK
Backup Admin  Systems  Applications Management  Support Specialist
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
You don't specify if your query is about all backups or about
NetBackup backups.

My average is about 95% - failures due to Change Controls on the servers
- but the Netbackup retry configuration means that most of the time the
second try works.  Some failures due to not getting it configured
correctly the first time.

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Now this is with my new library - and the reason I have a new library is
because my old one was failing too much - at that time my backup average
may have been 80 to 85 %

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What do you believe this to be?

TIA

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Robot vendors

2010-01-12 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi,

Exp. w/ Sun SL8500s here, all redundant parts for the most part, works 
very well (w/ dual ACSLS hosts HA).

Although people have noted on this list before that the ADIC i2000's work 
well too.

The Sun SL3000 is good but if you have two robots and one of them gets 
stuck pulling or putting in a tape _AND_ the other robot cannot push the 
stuck one out of the way (into the service bay) then you may end up with 
an inoperable robot.

We looked at the same thing..

With the SL8500 you have four LSMs, (8 bots total) so if one LSM has a 
problem, it will not affect the other 3.

For the SL3000 it is one robot that controls all the levels of the robot.

Justin.

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, WALLEBROEK Bart wrote:

 We are in the process of replacing our STK 9310 (PowderHorn).

 Does anybody have any experience (good AND bad) with large (+700 slots) 
 robots from following vendors:

 HP
 IBM
 Spectra-Logic
 Quantum
 SUN (SL3000 in particular)

 Thx.

 Best Regards,
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread Hudson, Steve
We have consistently been in the 90% plus.

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TIA

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread nitin.gizare
HI

Can I understand what is way calculating backup success rate?

 
Thanks and Rgds
Nitin

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We have consistently been in the 90% plus.

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TIA

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread William Brown
Actually if you think about it a SAN Media Server is no use as an FT Media 
Server - as it cannot backup other clients.  Strangely it could restore them as 
SAN Media Servers are allowed to do alternate client restores...just not 
backups.

William D L Brown


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It acts much like a normal media server and you just do that, you just
have to get the license installed to allow it to be a SAN Media server.

As such it can only back itself up.

If you have direct attached drives you issue.
If you have a library - you can have some drives just used by that
server (but if those drives fail it cannot use any of the other drives
in the library)  If you want your normal media server and your SAN media
server to use any drives in the library you will need to get an SSO
license so they can all share the same drives.

Not that setting up a SAN media server does not make it backup over the
san... if you want that you will have to set up the Fibre Transport -
you will need to look more into that as it only works with specific
hardware.


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

We are about to set up a system with a NBU SAN Media Server to give
the system direct access to tape drives
due to high throughput requirements.

I have not been able to find any documentation on how to install and
set up this. Is it so that we should perform
an ordinary media server installation and configuration? Is it only
the license that is different?

Sincerely

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
It just depends on if you have a need to have the data only travel the
SAN or if it is ok to travel the LAN.

I have SAN media servers but do not have FT. Just depends on what you
want.  But I know a number of people who thought SAN media server meant
by default that it backed up over the SAN.

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Actually if you think about it a SAN Media Server is no use as an FT
Media Server - as it cannot backup other clients.  Strangely it could
restore them as SAN Media Servers are allowed to do alternate client
restores...just not backups.

William D L Brown


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

It acts much like a normal media server and you just do that, you just
have to get the license installed to allow it to be a SAN Media server.

As such it can only back itself up.

If you have direct attached drives you issue.
If you have a library - you can have some drives just used by that
server (but if those drives fail it cannot use any of the other drives
in the library)  If you want your normal media server and your SAN media
server to use any drives in the library you will need to get an SSO
license so they can all share the same drives.

Not that setting up a SAN media server does not make it backup over the
san... if you want that you will have to set up the Fibre Transport -
you will need to look more into that as it only works with specific
hardware.


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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:28 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

We are about to set up a system with a NBU SAN Media Server to give
the system direct access to tape drives
due to high throughput requirements.

I have not been able to find any documentation on how to install and
set up this. Is it so that we should perform
an ordinary media server installation and configuration? Is it only
the license that is different?

Sincerely

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[Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.

2010-01-12 Thread Sagz

I have a problem.

I'm new to Netbackup.  Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra Logic 
t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media.  However there used to be a 
different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and a different hostname 
and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years ago.

Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1 media and 
the old catalog is no where to be found.

I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the robot.

How would you all proceed?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread Rusty.Major
I believe most people on the list are using a backup reporting tool. I use 
Aptare, but there are others and you can also script it to provide you 
success rates.

Those who are watching their success rates are in the 90's. Those who are 
not think their rate is better than what it really is.

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HI

Can I understand what is way calculating backup success rate?

 
Thanks and Rgds
Nitin

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

We have consistently been in the 90% plus.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate


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TIA

Brian

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Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.

2010-01-12 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
The standalone tape drives does not need to integrate with the robot.
If the drive is attached to the master or media server you can add it to
netbackup as a standalone drive.

Your real problem is do you know what tape your data is on?

If you do then you can use the standalone drive to import the tape into
netbackup, then you can do the restore.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:48 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.


I have a problem.

I'm new to Netbackup.  Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra
Logic t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media.  However there used
to be a different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and a
different hostname and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years
ago.

Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1
media and the old catalog is no where to be found.

I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the
robot.

How would you all proceed?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
Maybe he wanted to know the math.

 

Find out how many jobs you run (good and bad)

How many of those fail.

 

1000 jobs run

10 of those fail

Giving you 990 good jobs

 

990/1000 = 99%

 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

 


I believe most people on the list are using a backup reporting tool. I use 
Aptare, but there are others and you can also script it to provide you success 
rates. 

Those who are watching their success rates are in the 90's. Those who are not 
think their rate is better than what it really is. 

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Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 
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HI

Can I understand what is way calculating backup success rate?


Thanks and Rgds
Nitin

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

We have consistently been in the 90% plus.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:27 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate


I've been asked what I think the national average is for backup
success.  I recall hearing at one time that it was around 85-86% ...
What do you believe this to be?

TIA

Brian

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Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.

2010-01-12 Thread Rusty.Major
You can import the LTO1 media (using the LTO3 drives, obviously) into the 
new catalogs. Hopefully you know which tapes the data is on, otherwise you 
have to import each tape until you find what you need. Before you insert 
these tapes into the drive, make sure you write protect them, and have 
them put in a volume pool that NBU will not use for backups. 
Importing is a 2 phase process. You have to read the headers of the backup 
image off the tape first, then actually read the contents of the image to 
populate the metadata into the catalog. It's pretty simple, and you can 
read the details about how to do it in the Admin Guide. You'll have to 
manually switch the tapes out since you don't have a robot, so you'll have 
to watch NBU for when it's ready for the next one.

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I have a problem.

I'm new to Netbackup.  Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra 
Logic t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media.  However there used to 
be a different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and a different 
hostname and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years ago.

Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1 media 
and the old catalog is no where to be found.

I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the 
robot.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Number of successful jobs / number of jobs run is a good start but everyone’s 
metric is going to be different here.  For example, do you want full and 
incremental jobs? Restore jobs? How about large / multi-stream backups? If I 
backup a 4TB oracle database 99% in 20 backup sets, do I get credit for 19 
successful jobs and 1 failure or should I consider the entire backup and all 20 
jobs failures?  How about if my robot runs out of scratch media and I go 18 
hours at some remote site with hundreds of DSSU de-staging jobs failing with 
error 96s? Do you consider status 1s a success or only status 0?

 

Depending on your answers to these questions (and many more) your success rate 
could vary significantly.

 

-Jonathan

 

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Maybe he wanted to know the math.

 

Find out how many jobs you run (good and bad)

How many of those fail.

 

1000 jobs run

10 of those fail

Giving you 990 good jobs

 

990/1000 = 99%

 

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I believe most people on the list are using a backup reporting tool. I use 
Aptare, but there are others and you can also script it to provide you success 
rates. 

Those who are watching their success rates are in the 90's. Those who are not 
think their rate is better than what it really is. 

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HI

Can I understand what is way calculating backup success rate?


Thanks and Rgds
Nitin

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We have consistently been in the 90% plus.

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I've been asked what I think the national average is for backup
success.  I recall hearing at one time that it was around 85-86% ...
What do you believe this to be?

TIA

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Robot vendors

2010-01-12 Thread Rusty.Major
Bart,

We have i2000s, SL8500s and SL3000s, all over 700 slots.

All are good libraries, but the SL libraries have capability of redundant 
robots. The SL8500 is a huge beast of a library, but that's nothing new to 
you with a Powerderhorn. The SL libraries can also be hooked up with ACS 
(the 8500 must use it, and the 3000 is optional), which might be something 
you could continue to take advantage of.

The bad I have noticed with the 8500s is that we have had a few robots 
hands fail over the last 3 or so years we've had them. Not really a big 
deal as each hand is only 25% of the library since we don't have redundant 
hands yet. My point is that even though it's redundant capable, the 
failure rate is higher than I'd like. I can't recall the last time we had 
a bad hand in an i2000.

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We are in the process of replacing our STK 9310 (PowderHorn).

Does anybody have any experience (good AND bad) with large (+700 slots) 
robots from following vendors:

HP
IBM
Spectra-Logic
Quantum
SUN (SL3000 in particular)

Thx.

Best Regards,
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Robot Vendors

2010-01-12 Thread Strom
I have used both Sun and SpectraLogic.  Both work quite well.  My latest 
Spectra library I have had to reboot every couple of Months but other than that 
it is working very well.  My Sun Library was setup and ignore.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread Conner, Neil
I must be missing something... I don't understand why you would want to
install a SAN media server but not configure it to send data over the SAN.
What are the benefits of backing up client X via a SAN media server, but
sending data over the LAN, versus backing up client X through a traditional
master/media server where the same data goes over the same LAN?  I thought
the whole point of a SAN media server was to get the data off of the LAN and
onto the higher-throughput SAN...

Neil

On 1/12/10 8:40 AM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote:

 It just depends on if you have a need to have the data only travel the
 SAN or if it is ok to travel the LAN.
 
 I have SAN media servers but do not have FT. Just depends on what you
 want.  But I know a number of people who thought SAN media server meant
 by default that it backed up over the SAN.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of William
 Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:27 AM
 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server
 
 Actually if you think about it a SAN Media Server is no use as an FT
 Media Server - as it cannot backup other clients.  Strangely it could
 restore them as SAN Media Servers are allowed to do alternate client
 restores...just not backups.
 
 William D L Brown
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
 judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
 Sent: 12 January 2010 15:25
 To: thomas.e...@gmail.com; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server
 
 It acts much like a normal media server and you just do that, you just
 have to get the license installed to allow it to be a SAN Media server.
 
 As such it can only back itself up.
 
 If you have direct attached drives you issue.
 If you have a library - you can have some drives just used by that
 server (but if those drives fail it cannot use any of the other drives
 in the library)  If you want your normal media server and your SAN media
 server to use any drives in the library you will need to get an SSO
 license so they can all share the same drives.
 
 Not that setting up a SAN media server does not make it backup over the
 san... if you want that you will have to set up the Fibre Transport -
 you will need to look more into that as it only works with specific
 hardware.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
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 Hemmingby Espe
 Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:28 AM
 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server
 
 We are about to set up a system with a NBU SAN Media Server to give
 the system direct access to tape drives
 due to high throughput requirements.
 
 I have not been able to find any documentation on how to install and
 set up this. Is it so that we should perform
 an ordinary media server installation and configuration? Is it only
 the license that is different?
 
 Sincerely

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
Load,

I have two servers with large data.
To have my normal media server do the backup would put a big load on it.
So you add more media servers
But media servers cost money
San media servers cost a little less.
So I put the load of backing up those two big servers on themselves.
While letting my normal media servers backup everything else.


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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:47 PM
To: Judy Hinchcliffe; william.d.br...@gsk.com; Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

I must be missing something... I don't understand why you would want to
install a SAN media server but not configure it to send data over the
SAN.
What are the benefits of backing up client X via a SAN media server, but
sending data over the LAN, versus backing up client X through a
traditional
master/media server where the same data goes over the same LAN?  I
thought
the whole point of a SAN media server was to get the data off of the LAN
and
onto the higher-throughput SAN...

Neil

On 1/12/10 8:40 AM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote:

 It just depends on if you have a need to have the data only travel
the
 SAN or if it is ok to travel the LAN.
 
 I have SAN media servers but do not have FT. Just depends on what you
 want.  But I know a number of people who thought SAN media server
meant
 by default that it backed up over the SAN.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
William
 Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:27 AM
 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server
 
 Actually if you think about it a SAN Media Server is no use as an FT
 Media Server - as it cannot backup other clients.  Strangely it could
 restore them as SAN Media Servers are allowed to do alternate client
 restores...just not backups.
 
 William D L Brown
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
 judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
 Sent: 12 January 2010 15:25
 To: thomas.e...@gmail.com; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server
 
 It acts much like a normal media server and you just do that, you just
 have to get the license installed to allow it to be a SAN Media
server.
 
 As such it can only back itself up.
 
 If you have direct attached drives you issue.
 If you have a library - you can have some drives just used by that
 server (but if those drives fail it cannot use any of the other drives
 in the library)  If you want your normal media server and your SAN
media
 server to use any drives in the library you will need to get an SSO
 license so they can all share the same drives.
 
 Not that setting up a SAN media server does not make it backup over
the
 san... if you want that you will have to set up the Fibre Transport -
 you will need to look more into that as it only works with specific
 hardware.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas
 Hemmingby Espe
 Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:28 AM
 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server
 
 We are about to set up a system with a NBU SAN Media Server to give
 the system direct access to tape drives
 due to high throughput requirements.
 
 I have not been able to find any documentation on how to install and
 set up this. Is it so that we should perform
 an ordinary media server installation and configuration? Is it only
 the license that is different?
 
 Sincerely



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread Thomas Hemmingby Espe
 It just depends on if you have a need to have the data only travel the
 SAN or if it is ok to travel the LAN.

 I have SAN media servers but do not have FT. Just depends on what you
 want.  But I know a number of people who thought SAN media server meant
 by default that it backed up over the SAN.

We actually do have a need to have the data travel the SAN because we
have to backup a considerable
amount of data in 30 min. or less. So that mean that we need FT as well?

This is an extra license?


-- 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread Don Peterson
The Fiber Transport media server (which has a FC target mode driver so it can 
receive data across the SAN) is ONLY required when you want to use a SAN Client 
to transfer data to a media server. The data then goes across the SAN vs. the 
LAN.

A SAN media server, because it only backs up itself, not other clients, only 
uses FC for disk and/or tape access, so an FT media server is not applicable.

Don Peterson
Principal Product Manager, NetBackup
Information Management Group
Symantec Corporation
www.symantec.com
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:53:47 -0600
From: Ed Wilts ewi...@ewilts.org
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup migration
To: Asiye Yigit asiye.yi...@gantek.com
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On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Asiye Yigit asiye.yi...@gantek.com wrote:

  Is it supported to move netbackup catalog on SPARC processor  (Soalris
 10) to  AMD Opteron processor (Solaris 10 X64) with the same hostname?


Cross-platform catalog moves are not supported.  In this case you're going
from SPARC to x64.  I can't comment on whether or not it will work, but I'm
pretty sure it's unsupported.  You can/should open a case with Symantec to
verify.

   .../Ed

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Hello,

However, hw contains same OS. I mean both os is Solaris 10.

I will open a case to Symantec.

In fact, I opened for moving the catalog from linux to solaris.

They said moving operation is supported between any kind of unix type.

It really worked in my test environment from linux to solaris.

Regards,

 

 

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On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Asiye Yigit asiye.yi...@gantek.com
wrote:

Is it supported to move netbackup catalog on SPARC processor  (Soalris
10) to  AMD Opteron processor (Solaris 10 X64) with the same hostname?


Cross-platform catalog moves are not supported.  In this case you're
going from SPARC to x64.  I can't comment on whether or not it will
work, but I'm pretty sure it's unsupported.  You can/should open a case
with Symantec to verify.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread William Brown
Don't confuse the confusing names Symantec uses!

A SAN Media Server backs up it's own disks (only) and sends the data over the 
SAN to SAN-attached tape drives (commonly)

A normal Media Server (licence is double the list price) also send data to 
storage just the same as a SAN Media Server, but can pull data in from LAN 
clients, or (with a very limited support matrix for target HBAs) can pull data 
from SAN Clients.

So you cannot backing up client X via a SAN media server, but sending data 
over the LAN unless your SAN Media Server is using network-attached storage 
like NAS or OST.

The name SAN Media Server is very confusing, especially since they introduced 
the SAN Client, and even more so since they share a licence (Enterprise 
Client).   The SAN Media Server is just a Media Server that cannot support 
remote clients.  If you look at the detail of the licence you'll see the 
'remote client' option is missing.

William D L Brown


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Sent: 12 January 2010 20:07
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

Load,

I have two servers with large data.
To have my normal media server do the backup would put a big load on it.
So you add more media servers
But media servers cost money
San media servers cost a little less.
So I put the load of backing up those two big servers on themselves.
While letting my normal media servers backup everything else.


-Original Message-
From: Conner, Neil [mailto:n...@mbari.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:47 PM
To: Judy Hinchcliffe; william.d.br...@gsk.com; Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

I must be missing something... I don't understand why you would want to
install a SAN media server but not configure it to send data over the
SAN.
What are the benefits of backing up client X via a SAN media server, but
sending data over the LAN, versus backing up client X through a
traditional
master/media server where the same data goes over the same LAN?  I
thought
the whole point of a SAN media server was to get the data off of the LAN
and
onto the higher-throughput SAN...

Neil

On 1/12/10 8:40 AM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote:

 It just depends on if you have a need to have the data only travel
the
 SAN or if it is ok to travel the LAN.
 
 I have SAN media servers but do not have FT. Just depends on what you
 want.  But I know a number of people who thought SAN media server
meant
 by default that it backed up over the SAN.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
William
 Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:27 AM
 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server
 
 Actually if you think about it a SAN Media Server is no use as an FT
 Media Server - as it cannot backup other clients.  Strangely it could
 restore them as SAN Media Servers are allowed to do alternate client
 restores...just not backups.
 
 William D L Brown
 
 
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 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
 judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
 Sent: 12 January 2010 15:25
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 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server
 
 It acts much like a normal media server and you just do that, you just
 have to get the license installed to allow it to be a SAN Media
server.
 
 As such it can only back itself up.
 
 If you have direct attached drives you issue.
 If you have a library - you can have some drives just used by that
 server (but if those drives fail it cannot use any of the other drives
 in the library)  If you want your normal media server and your SAN
media
 server to use any drives in the library you will need to get an SSO
 license so they can all share the same drives.
 
 Not that setting up a SAN media server does not make it backup over
the
 san... if you want that you will have to set up the Fibre Transport -
 you will need to look more into that as it only works with specific
 hardware.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas
 Hemmingby Espe
 Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:28 AM
 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server
 
 We are about to set up a system with a NBU SAN Media Server to give
 the system direct access to tape drives
 due to high throughput requirements.
 
 I have not been able to find any documentation on how to install and
 set up this. Is it so that we should perform
 an ordinary media server installation and configuration? Is it only
 the license 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-12 Thread William Brown
If you need the throughput of backup from the client to the Media Server (not 
SAN Media Server) of fibre channel, then the Client needs an 'Enterprise 
Client' licence.  This is actually the same licence now as SAN Media Server, 
and if your client was licensed before as SAN Media Server (e.g. at 5.n) you 
can trade the licence for a 6.n Enterprise Client licence.  See you sales rep 
as they say.

The actual SAN Client licence must be installed on the Master Server to enable 
the capability.

There is no extra licence for the FT Media Server function, any full Media 
Server that meets the compatibility list can be used.  Of course the FT Media 
Server must be able to store that data fast enough, e.g. through to tape (6.5.4 
and above) or to fast staging disk.

William D L Brown


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

 It just depends on if you have a need to have the data only travel the
 SAN or if it is ok to travel the LAN.

 I have SAN media servers but do not have FT. Just depends on what you
 want.  But I know a number of people who thought SAN media server meant
 by default that it backed up over the SAN.

We actually do have a need to have the data travel the SAN because we
have to backup a considerable
amount of data in 30 min. or less. So that mean that we need FT as well?

This is an extra license?


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Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.

2010-01-12 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote:
 Importing is a 2 phase process. You have to read the headers of the backup
 image off the tape first, then actually read the contents of the image to
 populate the metadata into the catalog. It's pretty simple, and you can read
 the details about how to do it in the Admin Guide. You'll have to manually
 switch the tapes out since you don't have a robot, so you'll have to watch
 NBU for when it's ready for the next one.

Also remember that as you import tapes (images), your images directory 
will grow accordingly.

If you import 200 tapes and the catalog at that time was 100GB, your 
images directory (and catalog) will grow by 100GB.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread ckstehman
Our goal is 99%, Lat year we upgraded to 6.5.4 and added Data Domain with 
OST which caused some problems to get
all the connections and workload set correctly.

Things have settled down and we are getting 99+ percent. We run around 
8,000 backups per day.


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I aim for 99% - In almost all cases, the system is setup to self behave 
and re-try jobs if it has failed after a certain amount of hours.
 
I have left a backup system for weeks, and it has been problem free.
Simon

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Hi Brian 

We average around 98% success rate on our production servers.   


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I've been asked what I think the national average is for backup
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What do you believe this to be?

TIA

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

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We are running Aptare, It has reports that show the success rate. 

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HI

Can I understand what is way calculating backup success rate?

 
Thanks and Rgds
Nitin

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We have consistently been in the 90% plus.

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TIA

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[Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.

2010-01-12 Thread Sagz

Update:

I actually found the old server but it won't boot (redhat 7.1)

I was able to mount the filesystems to try and grab the catalog.  Where could I 
look?

i have access to /usr/openv/netbackup

thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread Wayne T Smith
Hi Brian,

Because we backup machines that will be unavailable for periods of time, the
% isn't very interesting for us.

Items I find interesting:

   - On Monday morning, what servers have not had a successful full backup
   over the weekend (I want a reason for every client failing backups)
   - On Friday morning, what servers are failing backups (notify client
   owners)
   - Other days, client owners can work on the problem of failing backups,
   if they have interest (they have the ability/resources)
   - How much of my time is due to backup infrastructure problems.
   - How much of my time is due to client problems.

Over the years, this keeps us reasonably protected and focus with the owners
(responsible parties).  Others may have wildly different perspectives!

Cheers, Wayne


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  I've been asked what I think the national average is for backup
 success.  I recall hearing at one time that it was around 85-86% ...
 What do you believe this to be?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread Mark Phillips
Not sure which OS you're running but on Unix/Linux try running...

bpdbjobs -summary -U | tail -1 | awk '{ s = $5/$11*100} END {print s%, 
Backup success rate}'

And if you count partial successes as a success run

bpdbjobs -summary -U | tail -1 | awk '{ s = ($5+$6)/$11*100} END {print s%, 
Backup success rate}'

Mark

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HI

Can I understand what is way calculating backup success rate?

 
Thanks and Rgds
Nitin

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We have consistently been in the 90% plus.

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TIA

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Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.

2010-01-12 Thread Dean
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/client_name

(where client_name is the name of the host you are trying to restore data
from)

In there will be directories based on the ctime the backup was originally
taken. The directory names will by something like 123400, where 1234 are
the first 4 digits of the ctime.

In that directory will be a *FULL file for each backup image taken in that
perioud (that hasn't since expired). The FRAG records in that file will tell
you what tape/s the backup is on. Asssuming you have another running NBU
system, you can import that tape.

However, I find it easier just to copy the *FULL and *.f or *.f.Z file
across to the new server.

If you elect to just copy the catalog files over, you'll need the following
line in bp.conf
FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER = old new

(where old is the old media server name which is listed in the *FULL file
mentioned above, and new is the new server with access to the LTO3 tape
drive).

Having said all that, if the expiration date of the backup has passed, these
catalog  files will probably be gone.


Good luck!
Dean
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 Update:

 I actually found the old server but it won't boot (redhat 7.1)

 I was able to mount the filesystems to try and grab the catalog.  Where
 could I look?

 i have access to /usr/openv/netbackup

 thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.

2010-01-12 Thread hkyeak...@gmail.com
I'm out at dinner right now, and I'm therefore not near my NetBackup 
documentation, but I believe you'll want to check 
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/lt;clientname

When I get home I'll check my notes to see if I'm correct.

Good luck!

- Heathe Kyle Yeakley



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Update:



I actually found the old server but it won't boot (redhat 7.1)



I was able to mount the filesystems to try and grab the catalog.  Where could I 
look?



i have access to /usr/openv/netbackup



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