Re: [Veritas-bu] bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf? -SPOKE TO SOON

2011-04-29 Thread Rosie Cleary
Hi Jeff,

I've just started using dnsmasq on Red Hat Linux which acts as a dns 
forwarder but allows me to override certain IP addresses. It's easy to 
configure and will get around this problem.

Other than that is it out of the question to use a slightly different 
name for client interface that is in the backup network? (e.g. 
servername-b) You would then put servername-b rather than servername in 
the policy and the traffic would automatically route over the backup 
network. I've used this for all clients in my backup network from day 
one and it's been fine. The disadvantages that I can think of for you are
  - The name of the client in reports and for searches is different from 
the normal client name, and if it only applies to one or two servers 
then it will be confusing.
  - Backups taken before the change will be considered by the server to 
be of a different client so there are a few extra steps to restore from 
these.

Best regards,

Rosie.

Rosie Cleary
Computer Centre
National University of Ireland, Maynooth


Lightner, Jeff  wrote [28/04/2011 20:53]:
 Sorry folks - NOT resolved.

 I thought this was resolved because the backup started but on checking I
 see it is using the primary LAN rather than the backup LAN. The addition
 of the FQDN on the client did get us past the 59 error but didn’t fix
 the issue I was asking about initially.

 The bpclntcmd is still showing the 10.x primary IP instead of the 172.x
 backup IP that I have in host file of the media server. We really need
 this backup to go across the backup LAN.

 

 *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of
 *Lightner, Jeff
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:11 PM
 *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?
 -RESOLVED

 *Dan Otto had responded and based on what he wrote I resolved the issue.
 The below shows the thread between us and is reposted here with his
 permission.*

 **

 *From:*Lightner, Jeff [mailto:jlight...@water.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:02 PM
 *To:* Daniel Otto
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 That was it.

 After checking bpcd log on the client we saw that it was complaining
 that the FQDN name wasn’t a media server. Our entry for the server was
 the short name for the media server. Adding the FQDN to the line that
 had the backup LAN IP and short name resolved the issue.

 It just didn’t occur to me to look at the client because I thought
 bpclntcmd was simply trying to resolve from the media server.

 I had actually tried adding FQDN of the client to the media server
 earlier because we have seen various issues regarding short name vs FQDN
 since implementing 7.1.

 Thanks for your help.

 

 *From:*Daniel Otto [mailto:dan_o...@symantec.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:57 PM
 *To:* Lightner, Jeff
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 The 59 is thrown because whatever server hostname the client is
 resolving doesn’t exist in the client’s server list hence server access
 denied status 59 and should show up as a status 46 error in bpcd as a
 invalid server. If the media server couldn’t resolve the client at all
 or getting the wrong IP address you would be getting 58/25 or even 54’s
 type of errors.

 

 *From:*Lightner, Jeff [mailto:jlight...@water.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:43 PM
 *To:* Daniel Otto
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 I did actually try removing dns from nsswitch.conf but it didn’t help.

 I haven’t looked at the client’s bpcd log – I did verify the media
 server is in the server list for the client. The only other one in the
 list is the master.

 

 *From:*Daniel Otto [mailto:dan_o...@symantec.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:35 PM
 *To:* Lightner, Jeff
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 Easy fix would be to use the bpcd log on the client and whatever
 hostname is getting resolved simply add it to the SERVER = on the client
 and the 59 should go away. As to why it is not using the host
 file…that’s interesting.

 Perhaps for a quick test remove the DNS entry altogether from
 switch.conf to see if it then goes to the host file. Though I have only
 seen Solaris server do funkly things such as this.

 Hope this helps,

 Dan O

 

 *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of
 *Lightner, Jeff
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:22 PM
 *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* 

Re: [Veritas-bu] bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf? -SPOKE TO SOON

2011-04-29 Thread Lightner, Jeff
We actually do that for most clients but this is a MS Exchange cluster
name and we didn't need to use a separate name for this cluster in
6.5.4.  To me this seems like a bug in the NetBackup tools since I can
demonstrate OS level tools resolve the expected IP and it is only the
NetBackup tools that are getting the wrong name.   Also as I noted
before this is only happening on my HP-UX media server - my master
server is getting the correct IP in bpclntcmd for the client.

-Original Message-
From: Rosie Cleary [mailto:rosie.cle...@nuim.ie] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:06 AM
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?
-SPOKE TO SOON

Hi Jeff,

I've just started using dnsmasq on Red Hat Linux which acts as a dns 
forwarder but allows me to override certain IP addresses. It's easy to 
configure and will get around this problem.

Other than that is it out of the question to use a slightly different 
name for client interface that is in the backup network? (e.g. 
servername-b) You would then put servername-b rather than servername in 
the policy and the traffic would automatically route over the backup 
network. I've used this for all clients in my backup network from day 
one and it's been fine. The disadvantages that I can think of for you
are
  - The name of the client in reports and for searches is different from

the normal client name, and if it only applies to one or two servers 
then it will be confusing.
  - Backups taken before the change will be considered by the server to 
be of a different client so there are a few extra steps to restore from 
these.

Best regards,

Rosie.

Rosie Cleary
Computer Centre
National University of Ireland, Maynooth


Lightner, Jeff  wrote [28/04/2011 20:53]:
 Sorry folks - NOT resolved.

 I thought this was resolved because the backup started but on checking
I
 see it is using the primary LAN rather than the backup LAN. The
addition
 of the FQDN on the client did get us past the 59 error but didn't fix
 the issue I was asking about initially.

 The bpclntcmd is still showing the 10.x primary IP instead of the
172.x
 backup IP that I have in host file of the media server. We really need
 this backup to go across the backup LAN.




 *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of
 *Lightner, Jeff
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:11 PM
 *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpclntcmd and others ignoring
nsswitch.conf?
 -RESOLVED

 *Dan Otto had responded and based on what he wrote I resolved the
issue.
 The below shows the thread between us and is reposted here with his
 permission.*

 **

 *From:*Lightner, Jeff [mailto:jlight...@water.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:02 PM
 *To:* Daniel Otto
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 That was it.

 After checking bpcd log on the client we saw that it was complaining
 that the FQDN name wasn't a media server. Our entry for the server was
 the short name for the media server. Adding the FQDN to the line that
 had the backup LAN IP and short name resolved the issue.

 It just didn't occur to me to look at the client because I thought
 bpclntcmd was simply trying to resolve from the media server.

 I had actually tried adding FQDN of the client to the media server
 earlier because we have seen various issues regarding short name vs
FQDN
 since implementing 7.1.

 Thanks for your help.




 *From:*Daniel Otto [mailto:dan_o...@symantec.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:57 PM
 *To:* Lightner, Jeff
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 The 59 is thrown because whatever server hostname the client is
 resolving doesn't exist in the client's server list hence server
access
 denied status 59 and should show up as a status 46 error in bpcd as a
 invalid server. If the media server couldn't resolve the client at all
 or getting the wrong IP address you would be getting 58/25 or even
54's
 type of errors.




 *From:*Lightner, Jeff [mailto:jlight...@water.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:43 PM
 *To:* Daniel Otto
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 I did actually try removing dns from nsswitch.conf but it didn't help.

 I haven't looked at the client's bpcd log - I did verify the media
 server is in the server list for the client. The only other one in the
 list is the master.




 *From:*Daniel Otto [mailto:dan_o...@symantec.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:35 PM
 *To:* Lightner, Jeff
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 Easy fix would 

Re: [Veritas-bu] bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf? -SPOKE TO SOON

2011-04-29 Thread Patrick
Have you tried running bptestbpcd -client client name -verbose -debug from
the media server? What are the results? Does bpgetconfig -M client name
work?

Regards,
 
Patrick Whelan
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows.

netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk


-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner,
Jeff
Sent: 29 April 2011 13:41
To: Rosie Cleary
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?
-SPOKE TO SOON

We actually do that for most clients but this is a MS Exchange cluster name
and we didn't need to use a separate name for this cluster in 6.5.4.  To me
this seems like a bug in the NetBackup tools since I can demonstrate OS
level tools resolve the expected IP and it is only the
NetBackup tools that are getting the wrong name.   Also as I noted
before this is only happening on my HP-UX media server - my master server is
getting the correct IP in bpclntcmd for the client.

-Original Message-
From: Rosie Cleary [mailto:rosie.cle...@nuim.ie]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:06 AM
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?
-SPOKE TO SOON

Hi Jeff,

I've just started using dnsmasq on Red Hat Linux which acts as a dns
forwarder but allows me to override certain IP addresses. It's easy to
configure and will get around this problem.

Other than that is it out of the question to use a slightly different name
for client interface that is in the backup network? (e.g. 
servername-b) You would then put servername-b rather than servername in the
policy and the traffic would automatically route over the backup network.
I've used this for all clients in my backup network from day one and it's
been fine. The disadvantages that I can think of for you are
  - The name of the client in reports and for searches is different from

the normal client name, and if it only applies to one or two servers then it
will be confusing.
  - Backups taken before the change will be considered by the server to be
of a different client so there are a few extra steps to restore from these.

Best regards,

Rosie.

Rosie Cleary
Computer Centre
National University of Ireland, Maynooth


Lightner, Jeff  wrote [28/04/2011 20:53]:
 Sorry folks - NOT resolved.

 I thought this was resolved because the backup started but on checking
I
 see it is using the primary LAN rather than the backup LAN. The
addition
 of the FQDN on the client did get us past the 59 error but didn't fix 
 the issue I was asking about initially.

 The bpclntcmd is still showing the 10.x primary IP instead of the
172.x
 backup IP that I have in host file of the media server. We really need 
 this backup to go across the backup LAN.




 *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of 
 *Lightner, Jeff
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:11 PM
 *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpclntcmd and others ignoring
nsswitch.conf?
 -RESOLVED

 *Dan Otto had responded and based on what he wrote I resolved the
issue.
 The below shows the thread between us and is reposted here with his
 permission.*

 **

 *From:*Lightner, Jeff [mailto:jlight...@water.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:02 PM
 *To:* Daniel Otto
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 That was it.

 After checking bpcd log on the client we saw that it was complaining 
 that the FQDN name wasn't a media server. Our entry for the server was 
 the short name for the media server. Adding the FQDN to the line that 
 had the backup LAN IP and short name resolved the issue.

 It just didn't occur to me to look at the client because I thought 
 bpclntcmd was simply trying to resolve from the media server.

 I had actually tried adding FQDN of the client to the media server 
 earlier because we have seen various issues regarding short name vs
FQDN
 since implementing 7.1.

 Thanks for your help.




 *From:*Daniel Otto [mailto:dan_o...@symantec.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:57 PM
 *To:* Lightner, Jeff
 *Subject:* RE: bpclntcmd and others ignoring nsswitch.conf?

 The 59 is thrown because whatever server hostname the client is 
 resolving doesn't exist in the client's server list hence server
access
 denied status 59 and should show up as a status 46 error in bpcd as a 
 invalid server. If the media server couldn't resolve the client at all 
 or getting the wrong IP address you would be getting 58/25 or even
54's
 type of errors.




 *From:*Lightner, Jeff 

[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1

2011-04-29 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hello,

How has everyone's 7.1 experience been?
Any gotchas or things to look out for?

Justin.
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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1 Client Software Changes

2011-04-29 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi,

I noticed it starts up a lot of services with 7.1

# rc.d/init.d/netbackup start
NetBackup Authentication daemon not started.
NetBackup network daemon started.
NetBackup client daemon started.
NetBackup SAN Client Fibre Transport daemon started.
NetBackup Bare Metal Restore Boot Server daemon started.

In the past, there were little to no services (SAN Client) most recently, 
what is everyone's thoughts on this?  Has anyone seen any issues running 
these services on busy hosts?  As with any new software/package/change, I 
wonder if there have been any bugs or weird issues that someone on here 
may have faced?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1

2011-04-29 Thread Lightner, Jeff
There appear to be differences in where fully qualified domain names
need to be used.

We have moved most of our environment to 7.1 but do have a few
outstanding issues:

Can't backup SQL 2000 on MS 2000 (not supported - we put the NBU 6.5.4
client on this server since there isn't a 7.1 version.   Someone on this
list says they got it working with 7.0.1 master and 6.5.3 client.).

MS-Exchange 2010 GRT restores don't seem to work.   We have a case open
for this and have been providing info.   This morning we're hearing this
may be a known issue with migrating mailboxes from Exchange 2003 to 2010
and there may be an engineering binary available.   No confirmation yet.

Issue with bpclntcmd not resolving correct client names from HP-UX media
server.   (See forum for my posts on that topic.)

Also we're running a RHEL6 (Linux) master and I'm seeing system lockups
whenever we try to push extremely large items there.   I first saw this
when setting up vaulting which duplicates Data Domain to Quantum i6000
tape robot.   Earlier in the week saw it again when I tried to push
large Exchange (old Exchange 2003) backup to Data Domain.   Both of
these issues were mitigated by using the HP-UX media server for vaulting
and to do the backup.   (However the backup is the one affected by the
bpclntcmd issue above.)

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:29 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1

Hello,

How has everyone's 7.1 experience been?
Any gotchas or things to look out for?

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1

2011-04-29 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

 There appear to be differences in where fully qualified domain names
 need to be used.

 We have moved most of our environment to 7.1 but do have a few
 outstanding issues:

 Can't backup SQL 2000 on MS 2000 (not supported - we put the NBU 6.5.4
 client on this server since there isn't a 7.1 version.   Someone on this
 list says they got it working with 7.0.1 master and 6.5.3 client.).

 MS-Exchange 2010 GRT restores don't seem to work.   We have a case open
 for this and have been providing info.   This morning we're hearing this
 may be a known issue with migrating mailboxes from Exchange 2003 to 2010
 and there may be an engineering binary available.   No confirmation yet.

 Issue with bpclntcmd not resolving correct client names from HP-UX media
 server.   (See forum for my posts on that topic.)

 Also we're running a RHEL6 (Linux) master and I'm seeing system lockups
 whenever we try to push extremely large items there.   I first saw this
 when setting up vaulting which duplicates Data Domain to Quantum i6000
 tape robot.   Earlier in the week saw it again when I tried to push
 large Exchange (old Exchange 2003) backup to Data Domain.   Both of
 these issues were mitigated by using the HP-UX media server for vaulting
 and to do the backup.   (However the backup is the one affected by the
 bpclntcmd issue above.)

The entire system locked up or just NetBackup?  Does a cycle fix it?
This is very scary and makes me wonder if 7.1 is ready for heavy production
loads?

Justin.

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[Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for Windows?

2011-04-29 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hello,

Has anyone seen this?

Windows 2008 clients:

CLIENT:
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES

On the client,
EXCLUDE C:\
INCLUDE D:\

For the C:\ backup it will get the following error:

Apr 29, 2011 10:09:22 AM - mounting TAPE01
Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM - connecting
Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM - connected; connect time: 0:00:00
Apr 29, 2011 10:09:59 AM - mounted TAPE01; mount time: 0:00:37
Apr 29, 2011 10:09:59 AM - positioning TAPE01 to file 59
Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM - positioned TAPE01; position time: 0:00:32
Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM - begin writing
Apr 29, 2011 10:11:31 AM - end writing; write time: 0:01:00
media manager received no data for backup image  (90)

With  7.0 this never happened, is this a bug?
The data in D:\ does get backed up however.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for Windows?

2011-04-29 Thread Patrick
Why would you do that?! Are you trying to see how many errors you can cause
by using non-sense combinations? Either
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and exclude C: \
or 
specify D: only in the file section. 
You are including the D:\ drive which should be included when you said
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES.

Regards,
 
Patrick Whelan 
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows.

netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk



-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: 29 April 2011 18:22
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for
Windows?

Hello,

Has anyone seen this?

Windows 2008 clients:

CLIENT:
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES

On the client,
EXCLUDE C:\
INCLUDE D:\

For the C:\ backup it will get the following error:

Apr 29, 2011 10:09:22 AM - mounting TAPE01 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM -
connecting Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM - connected; connect time: 0:00:00 Apr
29, 2011 10:09:59 AM - mounted TAPE01; mount time: 0:00:37 Apr 29, 2011
10:09:59 AM - positioning TAPE01 to file 59 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM -
positioned TAPE01; position time: 0:00:32 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM - begin
writing Apr 29, 2011 10:11:31 AM - end writing; write time: 0:01:00 media
manager received no data for backup image  (90)

With  7.0 this never happened, is this a bug?
The data in D:\ does get backed up however.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1

2011-04-29 Thread Lightner, Jeff
NetBackup was locked up and certain parts of the Linux OS weren't
working.  (e.g. I couldn't run ps -ef and get full output - it would
hang).   If I ran cat /proc/stat I would see process_blocked was
showing 5 or higher whereas without these big things running it is
typically at 0 or 1.

At present I suspect this is more an issue with the server or its
configuration than with NetBackup.   I haven't yet had a chance to delve
into it owing to the other issues and since I have a work around (other
media servers) I've put it on the back burner.  It works fine for most
of our other UNIX/Linux/Windows backups.   I saw similar issues on a
RHEL5 Media server back when we were doing 6.5.4.   On that server when
trying to push backups to dedupe units it was experiencing similar hangs
but when pushing to the tape library it wasn't.  Since we got a new disk
array and san switches at the same time as the library it may simply be
we need to throttle things back or it could be an issue with the NFS
stack.

-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:40 PM
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1



On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

 There appear to be differences in where fully qualified domain names
 need to be used.

 We have moved most of our environment to 7.1 but do have a few
 outstanding issues:

 Can't backup SQL 2000 on MS 2000 (not supported - we put the NBU 6.5.4
 client on this server since there isn't a 7.1 version.   Someone on
this
 list says they got it working with 7.0.1 master and 6.5.3 client.).

 MS-Exchange 2010 GRT restores don't seem to work.   We have a case
open
 for this and have been providing info.   This morning we're hearing
this
 may be a known issue with migrating mailboxes from Exchange 2003 to
2010
 and there may be an engineering binary available.   No confirmation
yet.

 Issue with bpclntcmd not resolving correct client names from HP-UX
media
 server.   (See forum for my posts on that topic.)

 Also we're running a RHEL6 (Linux) master and I'm seeing system
lockups
 whenever we try to push extremely large items there.   I first saw
this
 when setting up vaulting which duplicates Data Domain to Quantum i6000
 tape robot.   Earlier in the week saw it again when I tried to push
 large Exchange (old Exchange 2003) backup to Data Domain.   Both of
 these issues were mitigated by using the HP-UX media server for
vaulting
 and to do the backup.   (However the backup is the one affected by the
 bpclntcmd issue above.)

The entire system locked up or just NetBackup?  Does a cycle fix it?
This is very scary and makes me wonder if 7.1 is ready for heavy
production
loads?

Justin.
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1

2011-04-29 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi Jeff,

Thank you for your feedback, it is very useful.  I will have to do more 
load testing from your feedback.

Justin.

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

 NetBackup was locked up and certain parts of the Linux OS weren't
 working.  (e.g. I couldn't run ps -ef and get full output - it would
 hang).   If I ran cat /proc/stat I would see process_blocked was
 showing 5 or higher whereas without these big things running it is
 typically at 0 or 1.

 At present I suspect this is more an issue with the server or its
 configuration than with NetBackup.   I haven't yet had a chance to delve
 into it owing to the other issues and since I have a work around (other
 media servers) I've put it on the back burner.  It works fine for most
 of our other UNIX/Linux/Windows backups.   I saw similar issues on a
 RHEL5 Media server back when we were doing 6.5.4.   On that server when
 trying to push backups to dedupe units it was experiencing similar hangs
 but when pushing to the tape library it wasn't.  Since we got a new disk
 array and san switches at the same time as the library it may simply be
 we need to throttle things back or it could be an issue with the NFS
 stack.

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com]
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:40 PM
 To: Lightner, Jeff
 Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1



 On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

 There appear to be differences in where fully qualified domain names
 need to be used.

 We have moved most of our environment to 7.1 but do have a few
 outstanding issues:

 Can't backup SQL 2000 on MS 2000 (not supported - we put the NBU 6.5.4
 client on this server since there isn't a 7.1 version.   Someone on
 this
 list says they got it working with 7.0.1 master and 6.5.3 client.).

 MS-Exchange 2010 GRT restores don't seem to work.   We have a case
 open
 for this and have been providing info.   This morning we're hearing
 this
 may be a known issue with migrating mailboxes from Exchange 2003 to
 2010
 and there may be an engineering binary available.   No confirmation
 yet.

 Issue with bpclntcmd not resolving correct client names from HP-UX
 media
 server.   (See forum for my posts on that topic.)

 Also we're running a RHEL6 (Linux) master and I'm seeing system
 lockups
 whenever we try to push extremely large items there.   I first saw
 this
 when setting up vaulting which duplicates Data Domain to Quantum i6000
 tape robot.   Earlier in the week saw it again when I tried to push
 large Exchange (old Exchange 2003) backup to Data Domain.   Both of
 these issues were mitigated by using the HP-UX media server for
 vaulting
 and to do the backup.   (However the backup is the one affected by the
 bpclntcmd issue above.)

 The entire system locked up or just NetBackup?  Does a cycle fix it?
 This is very scary and makes me wonder if 7.1 is ready for heavy
 production
 loads?

 Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for Windows?

2011-04-29 Thread Chapman, Scott
That doesn't make any sense to me... why not just use all local drives and 
exclude C:\ from that... Having and exception to the exclude list of D:\ 
doesn't make sense... D:\ isn't part of C:\... 

I would just use all local drives and exclude C:\...

Scott Chapman
Senior Technical Specialist
Storage and Database Administration
ICBC - Victoria
Ph:  250.414.7650  Cell:  250.213.9295

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:52 AM
To: Patrick
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for 
Windows?

Hi Patrick,

The ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES is specified on the server, and then the team who 
handles windows can setup the includes and excludes locally on their 
client, that allows the user to configure the backups as they please and 
not require any intervention from the server-side of things other than 
adding the client properly.

Example:

Exclude Lists:
All Policies
   All schedules
C:\

Exceptions to the exclude list:
All schedules
D:\

Therefore, ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES backs up D:\ and System State and excludes 
C:\, this is how it has always worked and no errors and the data has been 
backed up successfully and tested via restore with no issues, the problem 
is with 7.0.1 and (maybe 7.0?) that it gets an error 90 for C:\ instead of 
just skipping it and exiting with a status 0, I think there was a tech 
note on this somewhere.

Justin.

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Patrick wrote:

 Why would you do that?! Are you trying to see how many errors you can cause
 by using non-sense combinations? Either
 ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and exclude C: \
 or
 specify D: only in the file section.
 You are including the D:\ drive which should be included when you said
 ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES.

 Regards,
  
 Patrick Whelan
 VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.
 VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows.

 netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk



 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin
 Piszcz
 Sent: 29 April 2011 18:22
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for
 Windows?

 Hello,

 Has anyone seen this?

 Windows 2008 clients:

 CLIENT:
 ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES

 On the client,
 EXCLUDE C:\
 INCLUDE D:\

 For the C:\ backup it will get the following error:

 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:22 AM - mounting TAPE01 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM -
 connecting Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM - connected; connect time: 0:00:00 Apr
 29, 2011 10:09:59 AM - mounted TAPE01; mount time: 0:00:37 Apr 29, 2011
 10:09:59 AM - positioning TAPE01 to file 59 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM -
 positioned TAPE01; position time: 0:00:32 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM - begin
 writing Apr 29, 2011 10:11:31 AM - end writing; write time: 0:01:00 media
 manager received no data for backup image  (90)

 With  7.0 this never happened, is this a bug?
 The data in D:\ does get backed up however.

 Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for Windows?

2011-04-29 Thread Justin Piszcz

Hi,

Please disregard, the actual example is:

Exclude Lists:
C:\
D:\

Include Lists:\
D:\Mydata

Where mydata is the only path we want to backup and nothing else on D:\ 
(potentially TB of live DB, where, we only want the dumps, for example).


Justin.

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Chapman, Scott wrote:


That doesn't make any sense to me... why not just use all local drives and exclude C:\ 
from that... Having and exception to the exclude list of D:\ doesn't make 
sense... D:\ isn't part of C:\...

I would just use all local drives and exclude C:\...

Scott Chapman
Senior Technical Specialist
Storage and Database Administration
ICBC - Victoria
Ph:  250.414.7650  Cell:  250.213.9295

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:52 AM
To: Patrick
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for 
Windows?

Hi Patrick,

The ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES is specified on the server, and then the team who
handles windows can setup the includes and excludes locally on their
client, that allows the user to configure the backups as they please and
not require any intervention from the server-side of things other than
adding the client properly.

Example:

Exclude Lists:
All Policies
  All schedules
C:\

Exceptions to the exclude list:
All schedules
D:\

Therefore, ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES backs up D:\ and System State and excludes
C:\, this is how it has always worked and no errors and the data has been
backed up successfully and tested via restore with no issues, the problem
is with 7.0.1 and (maybe 7.0?) that it gets an error 90 for C:\ instead of
just skipping it and exiting with a status 0, I think there was a tech
note on this somewhere.

Justin.

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Patrick wrote:


Why would you do that?! Are you trying to see how many errors you can cause
by using non-sense combinations? Either
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and exclude C: \
or
specify D: only in the file section.
You are including the D:\ drive which should be included when you said
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES.

Regards,
 
Patrick Whelan
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows.

netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk



-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: 29 April 2011 18:22
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for
Windows?

Hello,

Has anyone seen this?

Windows 2008 clients:

CLIENT:
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES

On the client,
EXCLUDE C:\
INCLUDE D:\

For the C:\ backup it will get the following error:

Apr 29, 2011 10:09:22 AM - mounting TAPE01 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM -
connecting Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM - connected; connect time: 0:00:00 Apr
29, 2011 10:09:59 AM - mounted TAPE01; mount time: 0:00:37 Apr 29, 2011
10:09:59 AM - positioning TAPE01 to file 59 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM -
positioned TAPE01; position time: 0:00:32 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM - begin
writing Apr 29, 2011 10:11:31 AM - end writing; write time: 0:01:00 media
manager received no data for backup image  (90)

With  7.0 this never happened, is this a bug?
The data in D:\ does get backed up however.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1

2011-04-29 Thread bob944
 How has everyone's 7.1 experience been?

It runs filesystem backups well in the lab.

 Any gotchas or things to look out for?

Things you would expect to be found in FA and to be in LBN before you
discover it the hard way, including

- upgrade of a solaris master with windows clients fails/takes days
(look up bpplconvert in the archives; workaround available)
- NDMP 3-way backups fail (workaround in Release Notes)
- bandwidth directive for one client will apparently limit the entire
domain's aggregate throughput to that limit (caution in Release Notes)

If you've skipped 7.0[.1], be sure to read all those docs as well;
important changes there are not repeated in the 7.1 docs.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for Windows?

2011-04-29 Thread Michael Graff Andersen
Hello Justin

Had the same issue to just after upgrading to 7.0, a workaround that worked
for was  to exclude drive:\*.*

Regards
Michael


2011/4/29 Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com

 Hello,

 Has anyone seen this?

 Windows 2008 clients:

 CLIENT:
 ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES

 On the client,
 EXCLUDE C:\
 INCLUDE D:\

 For the C:\ backup it will get the following error:

 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:22 AM - mounting TAPE01
 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM - connecting
 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM - connected; connect time: 0:00:00
 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:59 AM - mounted TAPE01; mount time: 0:00:37
 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:59 AM - positioning TAPE01 to file 59
 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM - positioned TAPE01; position time: 0:00:32
 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM - begin writing
 Apr 29, 2011 10:11:31 AM - end writing; write time: 0:01:00
 media manager received no data for backup image  (90)

 With  7.0 this never happened, is this a bug?
 The data in D:\ does get backed up however.

 Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 90 on Windows hosts with NBU 7.x client for Windows?

2011-04-29 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hello Michael,

I've tested this and I've confirmed you are correct it fixes the problem, 
under 7.0.1 as well!

Thank you!

Justin.

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Michael Graff Andersen wrote:

 Hello Justin

 Had the same issue to just after upgrading to 7.0, a workaround that worked
 for was  to exclude drive:\*.*

 Regards
 Michael


 2011/4/29 Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com

 Hello,

 Has anyone seen this?

 Windows 2008 clients:

 CLIENT:
 ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES

 On the client,
 EXCLUDE C:\
 INCLUDE D:\

 For the C:\ backup it will get the following error:

 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:22 AM - mounting TAPE01
 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM - connecting
 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:24 AM - connected; connect time: 0:00:00
 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:59 AM - mounted TAPE01; mount time: 0:00:37
 Apr 29, 2011 10:09:59 AM - positioning TAPE01 to file 59
 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM - positioned TAPE01; position time: 0:00:32
 Apr 29, 2011 10:10:31 AM - begin writing
 Apr 29, 2011 10:11:31 AM - end writing; write time: 0:01:00
 media manager received no data for backup image  (90)

 With  7.0 this never happened, is this a bug?
 The data in D:\ does get backed up however.

 Justin.
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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1

2011-04-29 Thread sandesh
Do you have Windows Master Server?

We ran upgrade on a standalone Windows Master Server and it went well. However, 
hot catalog backup failed with status code 2 on Windows Master. 

Had to download n install patch from Symantec's website which replaced 
bpbrm.exe and that solved the problem.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1

2011-04-29 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi,

Not sure who this was directed to, using Linux here, but good to know 
about that issue, thanks.

Justin.

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, sandesh wrote:

 Do you have Windows Master Server?

 We ran upgrade on a standalone Windows Master Server and it went well. 
 However, hot catalog backup failed with status code 2 on Windows Master.

 Had to download n install patch from Symantec's website which replaced 
 bpbrm.exe and that solved the problem.

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