[Veritas-bu] D2D backups
What are you all doing for Disk-to-disk backups? I'm getting a chance to redesign some infrastructure and Disk-to-disk might play an expanding role. Currently we keep about 5TB on disk as a primary backup media, simply writing to a large NFS chunk. We stage another TB or so to disk now but only until it's later duplicated to tape. We use no formal DSSU - it's all vault jobs custom scripts. Netapp presented their VTL to me. It's pretty good but I'm also interested in possible automated D2D offsites. What I want is a block-oriented duplication to a remote device, 1000 miles away - OC1 link. It's not practical to duplicate every tape block to a remote library at this speed, I need more of a changed-block oriented duplication for the remote disk unit. Netbackup would still be the software layer. I'd like an appliance head or just software solution I can hang in front of anybody's disks. Data Domain makes the right kind of software, they just tie it too tightly to an appliance, IMO, rather than letting me hang my own disks on the backside. I'm backing up 20TB a week now. -M +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Mark Donaldson - Systems Administrator - 303-664-2040 Corporate Express - Broomfield, Colorado +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ The information contained in this email transmission and any attachments is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated named herein. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document and its attachment in error, and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and return and delete the original message immediately. Thank you. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Job Prediction Accuracy?
I don't recognize the command. What version are you running. I'd look ahead with this: bpschedreq: -terminate -jobid jobid -suspend -jobid jobid [-M master_server,...,master_server] -tables -read_stunits -read_stu_config -predict datetime [-L] -verbose level format for datetime is mm/dd/ HH:MM:SS note, the datetime format. It only predicts for a specific hour/min/sec, you might be defaulting to 00:00:00 by leaving this off. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:49 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Job Prediction Accuracy? I was trying to figure out why my recently implemented backups of an Exchange server did not occur over the weekend. I made sure that the Policies were active - yes. I checked the schedule to be valid - yes. The Information Store policy had a job priority of 1; I've upped it to 4 (like some other jobs). The Mailbox policy had a job priority of 0; I've changed it to a 4 as well. But when I run D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\admincmdnbpemreq.exe -predict -date 03/06/2006 the Exchange backups are not listed at all. So, is nbpemreq.exe a) broken; b) fine, but something else is amiss; c) the wrong cmd-line tool to use for this. Thanks for any suggestions, Jason Jason Brooks Computer Systems Engineer IITS - Longwood University voice - (434) 395-2916 fax - (434) 395-2035 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Job Prediction Accuracy?
What's your policy look like: bppllist policyname -U, and when did it last run? -M -Original Message- From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:21 PM To: Brooks, Jason; Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Job Prediction Accuracy? Bpschedreq is there. Tried the following: D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\admincmdbpschedreq.exe -M calvin -predict 03/06/2006 With different time stamps. Here's what my schedule contains: a differential-incremental and full backup of the Exchange mailboxes. The differential should kick off tonight at 20:00 - that's the schedule. So, plugging in 20:00:00 after the date still shows nothing. I actually can't get any response out of bpschedreq.exe. Ideas? Thanks, Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Job Prediction Accuracy? Version 6. I didn't recognize it either. I couldn't remember what to run, so I opened up the pdf of Version 6 Commands, and searched for predict. That's the only command I landed. I'll check the other as well. Thanks, Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:03 PM To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Job Prediction Accuracy? I don't recognize the command. What version are you running. I'd look ahead with this: bpschedreq: -terminate -jobid jobid -suspend -jobid jobid [-M master_server,...,master_server] -tables -read_stunits -read_stu_config -predict datetime [-L] -verbose level format for datetime is mm/dd/ HH:MM:SS note, the datetime format. It only predicts for a specific hour/min/sec, you might be defaulting to 00:00:00 by leaving this off. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:49 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Job Prediction Accuracy? I was trying to figure out why my recently implemented backups of an Exchange server did not occur over the weekend. I made sure that the Policies were active - yes. I checked the schedule to be valid - yes. The Information Store policy had a job priority of 1; I've upped it to 4 (like some other jobs). The Mailbox policy had a job priority of 0; I've changed it to a 4 as well. But when I run D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\admincmdnbpemreq.exe -predict -date 03/06/2006 the Exchange backups are not listed at all. So, is nbpemreq.exe a) broken; b) fine, but something else is amiss; c) the wrong cmd-line tool to use for this. Thanks for any suggestions, Jason Jason Brooks Computer Systems Engineer IITS - Longwood University voice - (434) 395-2916 fax - (434) 395-2035 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU Java GUI for Unix
which jnbSA/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/jnbSA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:01 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NBU Java GUI for Unix I've got a Solaris 8 server running NBU 4.5. Where exactly is the GUI?! Do I have to install it separately? Everyone keeps talking about the "Java GUI" but I can't seem to find it. Thanx, -Jonathan
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU Java GUI for Unix
Ah - you're right. The one in ../netbackup/bin is a link: ls -ld /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/jnbSA lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 21 Sep 14 2004 /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/jnbSA - /usr/openv/java/jnbSA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Austin Murphy Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:40 PM Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Java GUI for Unix /usr/openv/java/jnbSA On 3/1/06, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a Solaris 8 server running NBU 4.5. Where exactly is the GUI?! Do I have to install it separately? Everyone keeps talking about the Java GUI but I can't seem to find it. Thanx, -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] schedule list?
What you say is definitely true. If you want a better predictor, I suppose you could script a sliding window for your upcoming Saturday using bpsched -predict. Because of the issue you describe (which is exactly what I do for my standard filesystem sets) it would let you look ahead a bit... What I supplied is a way to look at full backups that *might* run on a Saturday. -M -Original Message- From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 5:04 PM To: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Cc: List Veritas List Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] schedule list? On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:48:33PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, bppllist can be used for freq-based, either: bppllist -allpolicies -U ...and visually sort for Saturday being listed, or: bppllist -allpolicies look for an open window on a Saturday. But if you have your Full and Incremental windows 7 days per week (which many of us have), then you can't predict what will run this Saturday. It depends on when the last Full ran and what runs between now and Saturday. Just because you have a Full window open on Saturday doesn't mean that a Full will actually run. .../Ed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 1:08 PM To: Barber, Layne (Contractor) Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] schedule list? On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 12:54:06PM -0600, Barber, Layne (Contractor) wrote: Is there any command line prog I can use to list the schedules of ALL policies at once? I'm trying to find what policies are set to run fulls on Saturday. bppllist only helps if you only use calendar-based scheduling. If you're using frequency-based scheduling, which most of us do, then it's next to impossible to figure out. So yes, you answer your first question, but it likely won't help you determine what you're looking for. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Unable to cancel queued job
I have this all the time on my busy system. It'll often clean up when the entire running job queue is empty then the scheduler seems to cleanup these strays. If it doesn't cleanup then, I get rid of them by bouncing my master server processes. Usually getting an idle period is enough to clean these up. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Stump Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:23 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Unable to cancel queued job I tried to cancel a queued job via the java GUI and could not. So, I went to the command line but I still could not kill it. Any other suggestions? # bpdbjobs -report -jobid 19536 JobID State Stat Client Policy Schedule Started Ended 19536 Queued mickey18.00_sun18.00_sun_inc 02/27/06 18:02 # bpdbjobs -cancel 19536 Canceling 1 jobs # bpdbjobs -report -jobid 19536 JobID State Stat Client Policy Schedule Started Ended 19536 Queued mickey18.00_sun18.00_sun_inc 02/27/06 18:02 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] schedule list?
No, bppllist can be used for freq-based, either:
bppllist -allpolicies -U
...and visually sort for Saturday being listed, or:
bppllist -allpolicies look for an open window on a Saturday.
Here's an awk script to find all unix window policies that have a saturday
full backup (not counting calendar-based scheduling):
bppllist -allpolicies | awk '
{if($1==CLASS){p=$2}
if($1==INFO) {if($2==0||$2==13){good=1}else{good=0}}
if($1==SCHED){if($3==0){set=1;s=$2}else{set=0}}
if($1==SCHEDWIN set==1 $150
good==1){printf(%25s\t%s\n,p,s)}}'
-M
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 1:08 PM
To: Barber, Layne (Contractor)
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] schedule list?
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 12:54:06PM -0600, Barber, Layne (Contractor) wrote:
Is there any command line prog I can use to list the schedules of ALL
policies at once? I'm trying to find what policies are set to run fulls
on Saturday.
bppllist only helps if you only use calendar-based scheduling. If you're
using frequency-based scheduling, which most of us do, then it's next to
impossible to figure out.
So yes, you answer your first question, but it likely won't help you
determine what you're looking for.
.../Ed
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RE: [Veritas-bu] robtest poll
Title: Message I use robtest all the time, never used this command. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of David ChapaSent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:37 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] robtest poll Hello everyone...I'm curious about a robtest command that has been there as far back as I can remember (version 1.6). Once you are in robtest the command is "initrange" How many of you use initrange? And if you do use it what do you use it for? Any Symantec (Veritas) input is welcomed as well. Thanks very much, David
RE: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one media server to another
Title: Moving media from one media server to another Oops - wrong reply window. Ignore. -Original Message-From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:46 AMTo: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO; 'Hindle, Greg'; 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one media server to another Nope - look like I'd have an /opt/VRTSvradv directory if installed. -Original Message-From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:44 AMTo: 'Hindle, Greg'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one media server to another The bpmedia command is right for moving the media DB from one media server to another. If you're talking about moving from library to library, too. Remove the tapes from the first library, update all the inventories, add the tapes to the new, reupdate inventories. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hindle, GregSent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:56 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one media server to another What is the best and recommended way to move media from one media server to another? Greg This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP2
RE: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one media server to another
Title: Moving media from one media server to another The bpmedia command is right for moving the media DB from one media server to another. If you're talking about moving from library to library, too. Remove the tapes from the first library, update all the inventories, add the tapes to the new, reupdate inventories. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hindle, GregSent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:56 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one media server to another What is the best and recommended way to move media from one media server to another? GregThis e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP2
RE: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one media server to another
Title: Moving media from one media server to another Nope - look like I'd have an /opt/VRTSvradv directory if installed. -Original Message-From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:44 AMTo: 'Hindle, Greg'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one media server to another The bpmedia command is right for moving the media DB from one media server to another. If you're talking about moving from library to library, too. Remove the tapes from the first library, update all the inventories, add the tapes to the new, reupdate inventories. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hindle, GregSent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:56 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one media server to another What is the best and recommended way to move media from one media server to another? GregThis e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP2
RE: [Veritas-bu] Frozen / suspended tapes
Title: Frozen / suspended tapes
If
it's recent frozen tapes, in large amounts, I've seen this done due to hardware
mount failures.
Check
your media error report, it'll tell you why.
bperror -media -opts
bperror
[-all|-problems|-media|{-backstat
[-by_statcode]}]
[-L|-l|-U] [-columns
ncols] [-d
mm/dd/ HH:MM:SS|-hoursago hours] [-e mm/dd/
HH:MM:SS]
[-client client_name] [-server
server_name]
[-jobid job_id] [-jobgroupid
job_group_id]
[-M master_server,...] [-v]
Also
check the contents of ../netbackup/db/media/errors on your master server,
too.
-M
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GregSent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:57 AMTo:
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suspended tapes
We are getting a fair amount of frozen and
suspended tapes over the weekend. What are the causes for tapes getting into
these states?
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RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup message board/forums
Or the one that Veritas runs: http://support.veritas.com/menu_ddProduct_NBUESVR.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Keating Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:18 AM To: Jack L. Forester, Jr.; Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup message board/forums Like this one? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack L. Forester, Jr. Sent: February 16, 2006 12:05 PM To: Veritas List Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup message board/forums I was wondering how much interest there would be in a message board/forum for NetBackup. I would be willing to host the beast as long as it's not going to kill the server and eat up all of my bandwidth. :) If there is enough interest, I think the next step would be to form a team to determine how the forums would be laid out and set up the rules for the board. If I host it, I'll do it for free - without ads - but would reserve the right to add targeted/relevant advertising in the future to offset some of the costs. Discussuion? -- Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] We want to backup an STK280 directly
Title: We want to backup an STK280 directly Three methods that I'm aware of: 1. Use a snapshot of your primary filesystems mounted on an off-host server to backups. 2. Use an off-host data mover - an applicance that sits in your SAN and actually move the data blocks. Your primary server is still mined for the meta-data but the bulk of the blocks move via a different path. 3. Use a clustered filesystem and simultaneously mount the filesystems on multiple servers. HTH - M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of King, CherylSent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:00 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] We want to backup an STK280 directly We have a STK280 that we're backing up through the individual servers attached to it. We'd like to be able to backup directly from the SAN. Is there a way to do that with Veritas?
RE: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list on Linux
This may not work - file locking on Linux/unix is very different than the NT world. exclude the database files by excluding either the directory they live in or the default extension, for example: *.dbf for oracle. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:18 AM To: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor); Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list on Linux What I've been using is the Busy File Settings to avoid, or skip database files. It's under Client Settings, and I've got them set to ignore. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:09 AM To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list on Linux I've running 5.1 MP4 w/ a 2003 Master Server. I just loaded 5 new linux clients (also running 5.1) but I can't seem to find their excludes in the gui. Under windows clients I see an excludes section in the host properties but not for linux. Ideas? -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list on Linux
Excludes life on the client in the ../netbackup directory as files, not in a registry-like file. Create /usr/openv/netbackup/exclude_list.policyname with the excluded patterns within on each client. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:09 AMTo: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list on Linux I've running 5.1 MP4 w/ a 2003 Master Server. I just loaded 5 new linux clients (also running 5.1) but I can't seem to find their excludes in the gui. Under windows clients I see an "excludes" section in the host properties but not for linux. Ideas? -Jonathan
RE: [Veritas-bu] Bpmedia -movedb problem
bpmedia -movedb is designed to move mediadb files between media servers in the same environment. I'm not sure it'll work to move to a new master. The new master may have to start life as a media server to the original master, then be converted. Still, this is probably more complicated than that. However, make sure deamons are up on all machines be sure that each server has the other in bp.conf as SERVER = servername. Check your bpcd logs to help debug your connections. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:01 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Bpmedia -movedb problem Hello All I'm moving a master/media server to a new machine. I'm trying to use the procedure in this technote: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/266720.htm But I keep getting: 2bpmedia: INITIATING: version NetBackup 5.1 created: 0 2bpmedia: client/server handshaking failed client/server handshaking failed 2bpmedia: EXIT status = 26 Any ideas/suggestions will be appreciated Regards Michael -- Cybercity Webhosting (http://www.cybercity.dk) ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Help finding the status of tapes!
Your loop below searches the media servers for a volDB, not a list of master
servers. vmquery is specific to the volume database, there's only one per
environment and it's usually on the master server.
Frozen/suspended is per media server, but the volDB contains everything
else.
This is ugly but:
for tape in tape1 tape2 tape3 ...
do
echo ## $tape
for master in master1 master2 master3 ...
do
vmquery -h $master -m $tape 2/dev/null
if [ $? -eq 0 ]
then
for mediasvr in `bpstulist -M $master | awk '{print $3}' | sort -u`
do
bpmedialist -m $tape -M $master -h $mediasvr 2/dev/null
done
else
echo ## Tape $tape not in VolDB on $master.
fi
done
done
This can be prettified a bunch but it's functional. Watch out for line-wrap
issues in this posting.
Note also this this is untested but I think, if nothing else, that the logic
is sound.
-M
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Justin,
for tape in ID1 ID2 ID3 ID4...
do
for i in `bpstulist | awk '{print $3 | sort -u `
do
vmquery -m $tape -h $i
done
done
where ID1 ID2 ID3 ID4 etc are your media id's...
should do it...
JdS
Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:Re: [Veritas-bu] Help finding the status of tapes!
Yes, this'll work but I am trying to figure out the best way to do it via
the command line as I am looking for tapes amongst a vast array of master
media servers.
Justin.
On 2/8/06, WEAVER, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Justin
Here to be proved wrong, but if Netbackup knows about the tapes, then surely
they should be listed in the Reports Module Media Lists.
Also, to prove if Netbackup does know about them and they are in the Robot,
doing a Media Contents report will load the tape and give you all the
backup ID's it knows about!
Is this of any help?
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium
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Sent: 08 February 2006 13:46
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Help finding the status of tapes!
Problem:
I have a few tapes:
L00123
L00124
L00125
I need to find the status of these tapes across multiple master servers.
Is there a text equivalent to list all of the tapes in the:
* Media and Device Management
- Media
In the Media Manager's Media List?
I have several tapes I need to find the status of, whether they are frozen,
expired or scratch, etc...
bpmedialist does not show the complete listing of all of the media that has
ever been in the robot.
I am looking at the documentation now but thought I'd send this out if
anyone knew it off the top of their head?
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Error 58 got me stumped
Title: Message You do have to causethe bprd daemon to reread the database every time you change a client using the "bpclient" command: bprdreq -rereadconfig ..if you've been bouncing daemons, you've been doing this implicitly (albeit intrusively). -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul KeatingSent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:36 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Error 58 got me stumped for the record, I've added dozens of clients to vnetd config using the GUI. it's not necessary to bounce the daemons, or hasn't been in my experience. NBU tells you you have to, any time you change any config in "host properties - master server", but it's not always necessary. Paul -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chapman, ScottSent: February 6, 2006 12:17 PMTo: Jeff Lightner; Hindle, Greg; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Error 58 got me stumped check out the bpclient command. this will allow you to use vnet without boucing the masters netbackup processes. i run a solaris master so i can't confirm if this works on windoz. this should do the job: bpclient -client client_name -add -no_callback 1 here is the command usage: USAGE: bpclient -All [-M master_server] [-l|-L|-H|-FI] bpclient -client client_name [-M master_server] -l|-L|-H|-FI bpclient -client client_name [-M master_server] -add|-delete|-update For -add and -update the options are -connect_nr_port 0=no, 1=yes -no_callback 0=no, 1=yes -dynamic_address 0=no, 1=yes -free_browse 0=allow, 1=deny, 2=use -list_restore 0=not specified, 1=allow both, 2=allow list only, 3=deny both -max_jobs 1-99 -current_hostname host_name -current_ip_addr ip_address -current_host host_name[:ip_address]|:ip_address -WOFB_enabled 0=WOFB disabled, 1=WOFB_enabled -WOFB_FIM 0=VSP, 1=VSS -WOFB_usage 0=Individual Drive Snapshot, 1=Global Drive Snapshot -WOFB_error 0=Abort Backup on Error, 1=Disable Continue Scott Chapman Insurance Corporation of British Columbia - Victoria ph: 250.414.7650 cell: 250.213.9295
RE: [Veritas-bu] vmquery -deassignbyid
Title: Message Their method is sound in that tech document. Nice concise method. Catalog tapes have no image information there's no danger to the Image DB by using deassign by id -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul KeatingSent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:02 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] vmquery -deassignbyid I know it's suppsoed to be bad mojo to use this command, due to it possibly creating inconsistancies in the image db, but I've got a bunch of old catalog tapes, only written to a few times, that I no longer need as catalog tapes...they were being used back when we were sending our offsite tapes to Iron Mountain, and using Vault to do the Duplication.so I've got a bunch of tapes of status "Offsite - Catalog". Veritas specifies to use this command to recycle catalog tapes for normal use, and I've used it millions of times in the past for varisou reasons, but now I'm paranoid. http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/273044.htm Do the same caveats about cat corrunption apply to using it on old catalog tapes?? Paul
RE: [Veritas-bu] chaning ITC
I just tested and it looks like you need to just turn on the number of copies to 1 to deactivate ITC (f the first pool is still good for the single-copy) To enable ITC again, set the copy count to 2 and you'll have to resend the pools again. This, of course, is if you use the bpplschedrep command at the CLI. If you used the command line to change the number of copies to 1, the SCHEDPOOL settings stay the same. Then you could change the count back to 2 when you're done, and supply the SCHEDPOOL values back to the command with the -schedpool pool1,pool2 method. A bit messy, though. Easier might be to exclude, again via the CLI, the run date you don't want from backup. Then, again with the CLI, add new schedule with your one-off parameters. You could schedule the one-off with a specific include calendar date or just run manually using bpsched. Options - although kinda sucky ones. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Keating Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:06 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] chaning ITC I've got close to 100 policies, each with 2-3 schedules, and almost every schedule has ITC enabled (2 copies of every backup.) I want to disable ITC for a night to do some tests, but dang, it's a pain in the butt to change them all. I can't change the global value for max copies to less than 2..thinking my best bet is to copy usr/eopnv/netbackup/db/class aside, turn off ITC in every schedul, then restore the copy to reverse the changes. annoying that you can't turn off multiple copies without losing all the configuration (ie, when you turn multiple copies back on, you have to reconfigure every stu/pool/ret.) Any better ideas? Paul ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
This is from the v5.1 install guide (p20): Because the product uses file locking, VERITAS recommends that you not install NetBackup in an NFS mounted directory. File locking in NFS mounted file systems can be unreliable. May not be a good idea, then. We had trouble running one of our large media servers on NFS, strange errors be blamed on performance problems. Moving the application dir to local disk cleared the issues. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Algo Seeker Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:51 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? Any input? Thanks, ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup
A backup can use more than one tape drive, as the fragments are written,
they can span tapes. Netbackup makes no attempt to mount the next tape to be
written on the same device as the previous tape.
Therefore the drive information is related to the image fragments, not
simply the image.
Tape number written to is field 9 of the bpimagelist FRAG lines.
Device-written-on (DWO) is field 14 of the same record (note, this is the
drive index number for the media server that wrote this image.
Example (client, image, policy with copy, fragment, tape DWO).
This could, of course, be made much prettier:
bpimagelist -hoursago 1 | \
awk '$1==IMAGE {print Client:,$2,Policy:,$7,Image:,$6}
$1==FRAG{print Copy:,$2,Frag:,$3,Media:,$9,DWO:,$14}'
Client: sg-09 Policy: NT_2 Image: sg-09_1138895840
Copy: 1 Frag: 1 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 2 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 3 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 4 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 5 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 6 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 2 Frag: 1 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 2 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 3 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 4 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 5 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 6 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Client: ap-61 Policy: P_NAS2_FS Image: ap-61_1138887927
Copy: 1 Frag: 1 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 2 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 3 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 4 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 5 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 6 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 7 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 8 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 9 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 10 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 11 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 12 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
The second example, if you notice, spanned tapes switched drives in the
process.
-M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Warren Hulley
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:39 AM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup
Hi All
I would just like to know if there is a way to see which drive was used for
a specific policy / backup.
I know that if you get an error, say and 84 error it gives you the drive
index. But with successful backups it doesn't give you the drive index.
Any help would be fantastic.
Kind Regards
Warren
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Help with a Report request
bplist will show the files backed-up from a client given time-frame (lots of options). If you want to see the files in a specific backup image name, then you'll need to use bpflist. This is one of those report, IMO, that have no meaning. You boss intends to scan every line and try to identify which files weren't backed up? -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shawn Guillemette Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:45 AM To: nbu mailing list Subject: [Veritas-bu] Help with a Report request -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Im new to NBU and looking to learning as much as possible about the product. My boss has requested that I generate a report for him to show the file names included in a backup of a new client including full path if possible. He would like this in a digital format also if possible. I have looked through the reports section on the GUI and was unable to locate something that resembled what I (he) is looking for. Im not so familuar with the CLI so Im sure their may be a way to get this from he CLI as well. Im am running Veritas NBU 5.0GA MP6 Enterprise under a solaris 9 environment. - -- Shawn Guillemette MetroCast Cablevision Infrastructure Engineering -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD4jcQnOBTBAmR9iwRAkdPAKCM+S0ljfKx2TMHk/0sOeyMvbt/BwCfS6yw NQdqj7qC2TADfjQV01CFe44= =TW1u -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert?
In general, I've heard nothing bad about tape alert cleaning. The mistake, usually, is library-based cleaning. If you use library-based cleaning, then the library, without any alert to Netbackup, can chose to clean a tape drive, usually using a pseudo-hidden cleaning tape from a reserved slot. If the library cleans the tape drive Netbackup doesn't know about it, then NB can try to use the drive when a cleaning is occurring. The tape mount will fail NB will down the drive. For an SSO environment, your only NB-based option is tape alert cleaning. Frequency-based (at least in v5.x down) doesn't work in SSO because the media servers make no attempt to coordinate hours of run time for each drive. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Justin PiszczSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:45 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert? Anyone have any response to this e-mail concerning the tape alert flag? Hi, I have recently moved to new environment, which actively uses the tape alert setting in Veritas and has cleaning tapes assigned etc. The drives used are HP-Ultrium2-LTO2, the same in the previous environment, which I was responsible for. As I recall in the NetBackup with LTO2 drives I read somewhere or a previous thread on this mailing list, it is not recommended to turn this feature on as it causes more probolems than it fixes? Can using the TapeAlert settings cause more drives to go down than normal? I am trying to figure that part out as my previous main environment had 8 LTO2 drives which did not use tapealert. The new environment has many more drives but they all use tape alert, does anyone have any experience in large or small environments using tape alert? I've always seen and followed the standard placing the NO_TAPE_ALERT file in /usr/openv/volmgr/somewhere as it had never run in the past in the previous environment so I saw no reason to run it. I realize the drives will get dirty after a certain amount of use and need to be cleaned. However, I have spoken with StorageTek in the past and they do not recommend cleaning the drives very often; although I guess that would depend on the use the drives see as well. Ultimately, I'd like to know: 1) Who uses tape alert? 2) Have you tried backups for an extended period of time with it on and off? 3) Does it create more problems than it fixes? Thanks,
[Veritas-bu] RE: +AFs-Veritas-bu+AF0- determine backup ID with File List
Unix, for a brief time, stores the filesystem to JobID reference in: /usr/openv/netbackup/db/jobs/ffilelogs as jobid.f. Mine seem to go back to depth of my job-viewer info. I think that one day I should mine these out and create a database of them. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kilpatrick, Mark Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:19 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] determine backup ID with File List If I use bpimagelist to retrieve a list of backup IDs associated with a client backup how can I determine which job (file system) is associated with which backupID. For example if I want to duplicate the E:\ drive but my client has a C D and E I am unable to determine which of the three backupIDs from the previous nights backup is the E: drive. Even when using the GUI to duplicate I can see the three backup IDs but no indication as to which is the E drive. My temporary work around is to start a restore of a file on the e drive and find out the backup ID from the recover job details. This is not ideal for many duplication jobs. Any tips?? Due to continued expansion Sabeo Technologies have moved office – to The Courtyard, Carmanhall Road, Sandyford, Dublin 18. Our telephone and fax numbers remain unchanged. A location map is available on our website www.sabeo.com. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Sabeo Technologies. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups
Title: Message Just FYI: although the v6.0 feature list has shared drives for NDMP, both Netapp Veritas say it doesn't work. Coming soon to apatch kit near you, I guess. It takes a pretty high level of OnTap, too. Something to verify. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul KeatingSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:27 AMTo: Yosifovski, Tammy; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups I'm currently backing up a pair of NetApp gf940 filers, using Netbackup 5.0MP4 on a Solaris 8 master, with HP LTO3 drives in a STKL700 library. The master is configured asthe robotic control host. Drive(s) MUST be dedicated to the filer in pre NB6.0 versions I have a pair of LTO3 drives zoned to the "tape" HBA of the filer, created the appropriate STU, started the daemons, and off to the races. are you already backing it up and you're looking for options going forward? or is this a new install? if you need step by step config, let me knowI can write up a procedure for you. Note...NDMP restores suck.didn't meet our SLAs for restores, snapshots are an issue in our shopnot technically, but due to some wierd policies...but anyway, drop me a line if you need more info on getting it going. Paul -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yosifovski, TammySent: January 31, 2006 9:01 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups Solaris 9, Netbackup 5.1 MP 3 STK L700 - 5 - 9840C drives, SSO, ACSLS I am reading some conflicting information so I thought I would ask the experts. How are all of you backing up your NAS devices? Is anyone using the "enhance" Netbackup 6.0/NDMP agent? Anyone using NetApp and if so are you dedicating drives to the backup? The information is greatly appreciated. Tammy Yosifovski -Thise-mailistheexclusive,privateandconfidentialpropertyofthesender.Theinformationcontainedinitisintendedsolelyfortheuseofthesenderandtheintendedrecipient.Ifyouarenottheintendedrecipientyouareherebyadvisedthatanyunauthorizeddisclosure,copying,distributionorthetakingofanyactioninrelianceonthecontentsofthismessageisstrictlyprohibited.Ifyouhavereceivedthise-mailinerror,pleasenotifyusimmediatelybytelephone(calltheTec hnicalSupportCenterat1-888-873-8721)andthendestroythisdocumentandanycopiesinanyformimmediately.Finally,therecipientshouldcheckthisemailandanyattachmentsforthepresenceofviruses.YRCRegionalTransportationacceptsnoliabilityforanydamagecausedbyanyvirustransmittedbythisemail.-
RE: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups
Title: Message Oh - and to answer your question, we just NFS mount the filers to a central box backup via NFS. Not very efficient but we didn't want to spend the drives for dedicated backups. We're consisdering it now that our backups have grown so huge - it may pay us back on time savings. -M -Original MessageFrom: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:46 AMTo: 'Paul Keating'; Yosifovski, Tammy; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups Just FYI: although the v6.0 feature list has shared drives for NDMP, both Netapp Veritas say it doesn't work. Coming soon to apatch kit near you, I guess. It takes a pretty high level of OnTap, too. Something to verify. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul KeatingSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:27 AMTo: Yosifovski, Tammy; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups I'm currently backing up a pair of NetApp gf940 filers, using Netbackup 5.0MP4 on a Solaris 8 master, with HP LTO3 drives in a STKL700 library. The master is configured asthe robotic control host. Drive(s) MUST be dedicated to the filer in pre NB6.0 versions I have a pair of LTO3 drives zoned to the "tape" HBA of the filer, created the appropriate STU, started the daemons, and off to the races. are you already backing it up and you're looking for options going forward? or is this a new install? if you need step by step config, let me knowI can write up a procedure for you. Note...NDMP restores suck.didn't meet our SLAs for restores, snapshots are an issue in our shopnot technically, but due to some wierd policies...but anyway, drop me a line if you need more info on getting it going. Paul -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yosifovski, TammySent: January 31, 2006 9:01 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups Solaris 9, Netbackup 5.1 MP 3 STK L700 - 5 - 9840C drives, SSO, ACSLS I am reading some conflicting information so I thought I would ask the experts. How are all of you backing up your NAS devices? Is anyone using the "enhance" Netbackup 6.0/NDMP agent? Anyone using NetApp and if so are you dedicating drives to the backup? The information is greatly appreciated. Tammy Yosifovski -Thise-mailistheexclusive,privateandconfidentialpropertyofthesender.Theinformationcontainedinitisintendedsolelyfortheuseofthesenderandtheintendedrecipient.Ifyouarenottheintendedrecipientyouareherebyadvisedthatanyunauthorizeddisclosure,copying,distributionorthetakingofanyactioninrelianceonthecontentsofthismessageisstrictlyprohibited.Ifyouhavereceivedthise-mailinerror,pleasenotifyusimmediatelybytelephone(calltheT echnicalSupportCenterat1-888-873-8721)andthendestroythisdocumentandanycopiesinanyformimmediately.Finally,therecipientshouldcheckthisemailandanyattachmentsforthepresenceofviruses.YRCRegionalTransportationacceptsnoliabilityforanydamagecausedbyanyvirustransmittedbythisemail.-
RE: [Veritas-bu] Images on media question
Anything other than an error code 0 or 1 is a failed backup; failed backups do not create any valid images. The attempt, though, may still occupy tape space until any other successful images on that tape are expired the entire tape is reusable. There may be a delay in the time when a tape's images are expired and the tape becomes reusable. Look at the "bpexpdate -deassignempty" command to speed the process. It also accepts a mediaid if you want to limit its effect. The command is safe, not deleting any valid images. It's just a cleanup command. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tim MartinoSent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:29 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Images on media question Running NetBackup 4.5 FP3. A weekend Fullback loaded 4 different tapes according to the Activity Monitor. The backup failed due to no available media. Running the Images on Media Report for these tapes, I see no images for the failed backup. 1. I am not sure if the GUI is the best determinant of this. 2. Since the backup failed, does that mean the images that were backed up are no longer on the media? Thanks in advance. -Tim Martino
RE: [Veritas-bu] new storage unit
Unfortunately, yes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Stump Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:08 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] new storage unit Is it still necessary to stop/start daemons when creating a new storage unit in NB 5.1 MP4? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Is there any way to define a rule tell that do n ot backup the files which are older than 2 months
Not out of the box. I suppose you could use find to find all files older than two months and write their names to the exclude list for that policy. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Asiye Yigit Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:26 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is there any way to define a rule tell that do not backup the files which are older than 2 months Hi Gurus, Is there any way to define a rule in the netbackup says that do not backup files Which are older than 2 months. Regards, ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Examples of SSO vm.conf files
It's not vm.conf, it's tpconfig. Be sure which drives are the shared ones, ie /dev/rmt/x on server1 is /dev/rmtY on server2. Then carefully setup the drives as shared drives via tpconfig. vm.conf is plain. Really, the manual is your friend on an SSO setup. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kathryn Hemness Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:26 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Examples of SSO vm.conf files Greetings - I'm trying to setup SSO for an LTO2 library shared between a Solaris 9 Master and a RHEL3 Linux Media server. Can someone give me examples of the vm.conf files on each server? Right now, I'm using an evaluation license and I can see drives on both Master and Media servers and the robotic is controlled by the Master. However, all of the traffic is still going through the Master server. The Master server has a vm.conf but my Linux media server doesn't. --kathy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Examples of SSO vm.conf files
Did you create new storage units for your media server? Reboot? Assign your policy to the new storage unit? Make sure that your both servers have the other in their bp.conf file. Best guarantee is to have each labeled as a SERVER rather than a MEDIASERVER. Master server is listed first, of course, in both servers. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kathryn Hemness Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Examples of SSO vm.conf files Hi Mark -- Here are my tpconfigs on both the Master and Media servers: Master server: /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/tpconfig -d Index DriveName DrivePathTypeShared Status * * ** ** ** 0 Hagrid-1 /dev/rmt/3cbnhcart2 Yes UP TLD(0) Definition DRIVE=1 1 Hagrid-2 /dev/rmt/2cbnhcart2 Yes UP TLD(0) Definition DRIVE=2 2 Hagrid-3 /dev/rmt/1cbnhcart2 Yes UP TLD(0) Definition DRIVE=3 3 Hagrid-4 /dev/rmt/0cbnhcart2 Yes UP TLD(0) Definition DRIVE=4 Currently defined robotics are: TLD(0) robotic path = /dev/sg/c0tw2001005013e00369l1, volume database host = albus.ucdavis.edu *** Media Server:# /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/tpconfig -d Index DriveName DrivePathTypeShared Status * * ** ** ** 0 Hagrid-1 /dev/st/nh1c0t0l2hcart2 Yes UP TLD(0) Definition DRIVE=1 1 Hagrid-2 /dev/st/nh1c0t0l3hcart2 Yes UP TLD(0) Definition DRIVE=2 2 Hagrid-3 /dev/st/nh1c0t0l4hcart2 Yes UP TLD(0) Definition DRIVE=3 3 Hagrid-4 /dev/st/nh1c0t0l5hcart2 Yes UP TLD(0) Definition DRIVE=4 Currently defined robotics are: TLD(0) robot control host = albus.ucdavis.edu volume database host = albus.ucdavis.edu All I/O is still going through the device paths of the Master Server. On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:51:24 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Examples of SSO vm.conf files It's not vm.conf, it's tpconfig. Be sure which drives are the shared ones, ie /dev/rmt/x on server1 is /dev/rmtY on server2. Then carefully setup the drives as shared drives via tpconfig. vm.conf is plain. Really, the manual is your friend on an SSO setup. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kathryn Hemness Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:26 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Examples of SSO vm.conf files Greetings - I'm trying to setup SSO for an LTO2 library shared between a Solaris 9 Master and a RHEL3 Linux Media server. Can someone give me examples of the vm.conf files on each server? Right now, I'm using an evaluation license and I can see drives on both Master and Media servers and the robotic is controlled by the Master. However, all of the traffic is still going through the Master server. The Master server has a vm.conf but my Linux media server doesn't. --kathy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu --kathy === Kathryn Hemness[EMAIL PROTECTED] System Administrator phone: 530.752.6547 Campus Data Center Client Services fax: 530.752.9154 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Can we use NDMP storage unit to backup regular w indows clients?
Although drive sharing is on the v6.0 feature list, according to both Symantec Netapp, it doesn't work yet. Sorry - M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:24 AM To: Veritas-Bu (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Can we use NDMP storage unit to backup regular windows clients? Version 6 can share drives between NDMP and non-NDMP, but you say the drives are 'directly connected' to the NetApp. If they are SAN-attached and using the NetApp HBA for tape, then you can also zone an HBA on e.g. the Master server to the same drives...according to the theory. That could then back up the windows clients. If the SL500 is SCSI-attached to the NetApp then I don't think you can do it. William D L Brown Sto Rage© [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26-Jan-2006 05:25 To Veritas-Bu (E-mail) veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Can we use NDMP storage unit to backup regular windows clients? We have a master server that connects to a SL500 robot. The drives in the SL500 library are all directly conencted to a Netapp. We have been using this to backup the netapp over NDMP. So far so good. Can this setup be extended to backup widows clients? We are running version 6 of NBU. We want to avoid buying an additional LTO-2 drive. Thanks -G ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Tape Reclaimation
Your only way to do this is to duplicate the images from partially filled tapes to a consolidated pool, then delete the original images. I suppose you could automate this so that it's TSM-like. However, since Netbackup, by default, only groups like retentions on a tape, all images ona tape should expire at roughly the same, eliminating the need to consolidate. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mike WigingtonSent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:54 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Tape Reclaimation Does anyone know of a way to move images from one tape to another? I guess I am asking is there a way to do Tape Reclaimation similar to TSM? Thanks, Mike Wigington Bring words and photos together (easily) withPhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
RE: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..
A lot of us have been having trouble using Linux as a media server, especially in a drive-sharing environment. Check the history on ths list for a lot of details. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hampus LindSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:05 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS.. Hi, We run all our master and media servers on HP PA-RISC server and HP-UX as OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but also in maintenance... What do you guys think about going from the above to powerful INTEL server with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? We have about 200 clients and (all full is about ~15TB, never at one time though) to backup at one of our sites. Anyone using this type of solution in DC env`s? Recommendations?? Thankful for advice, MVH / Hampus LindRikspolisstyrelsenNational Police BoardTel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list on windows
Nope, this will exclude *.zyz from /a/b/c/any_dir/*.zyz but not recursively down from there. I think you're going to be stuck with a rather ugly: /a/b/c/*/*.zyz /a/b/c/*/*/*.zyz /a/b/c/*/*/*/*.zyz and so forth... Perhaps you could break the policy into two different ones, with two different filelists and two different exclusion files. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:51 AMTo: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list on windowsJim, \a\b\c\*\*.zyz should do it. JdS Jim McD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/01/2006 05:40 To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc: Subject:[Veritas-bu] Exclusion list on windowsHi Is it possible the exlcude all files with suffix .zyz from all subdirectories from \a\b\c downwards while at the same time backing up all files *.xyz files elsewhere on the system? If so how?.Thanks Jim
RE: [Veritas-bu] Linux Client HW/OS Choice
The "Intel" designation is about to be deprecated so you'll be fine sticking with the "Linux" type. I've tried to find where I just read this on Veritas' site but can't find the original note. I do remember running a sweep on our Linux clients to see if we had any with the "Intel" hardware type. Besides, if you check the compatibility chart, you'll see that, except for BSD, there's no more mention of a client type for Intel, Redhat. -M chart: http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/278064.pdf -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Major, RustySent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:51 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Linux Client HW/OS Choice When adding a Linux client, what is the difference between the INTEL RedHat 2.4 client HW/OS type and the LINUX RedHat 2.4 HW/OS type? I just noticed that a Linux client was setup with the Linux hardware when it really has Intel. Will it make a difference during a restore, because backups are working fine. Thanks, Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP Data Assurance Engineer (281) 584-4693 VeriCenter, Inc.
RE: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retent ions
I can answer for Oracle - I assume that the MSSQL would be similar. When your RMAN script runs, it sends data to the Netbackup Oracle agent. The agent, in turn, sends the data onto a Netbackup media server, to a particular policy schedule. In the RMAN script, you can specify the NB_ORA_POLICY and NB_ORA_SCHEDULE variables. These variables select which Netbackup (Oracle-type) policy schedule are used to recieve the data. Netbackup's retention of the data, therefore, is the retention period set on these application backup schedules. At the end of the retention period, therefore, NB will discard the images. If you want three different retentions, create three different schedules (it can be in the same policy). Have RMAN set the schedule variable appropriate to the type of retention you wish to select. This has nothing to do with retention periods set by RMAN within the RMAN scripts. RMAN can say keep this for a year and what it really is doing is keeping its info on those data blocks for a year. If it tries to restore an old image, it's going to request specific backup pieces from Netbackup. If NB's scheduled retention is less than RMAN's retention, there's a risk that RMAN will get a failure from NB - the images will no longer be in NB's image set. There's two ways to deal with this: 1. Set NB's retention to be the same (or more) than RMAN's retention periods. 2. Frequently sync RMAN's catalog against NB's catalog so RMAN stays current with NB's actual retained data. This is the most accurate but more complex. Here's a technote to get you started: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/251686.htm HTH - M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Austin Murphy Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:23 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retentions Does anyone have any insight on how to do scheduled weekly/monthly/yearly backups (with commensurate retention periods) of an MSSQL or Oracle database with Netbackup? I am running 5.1 MP3 on Solaris 9 and just found out that the database policy schedules don't work the same way as the file policy schedules. It has been pointed out to me that I could setup 3 Policies for weekly/monthly/yearly backups, but this won't stop the weekly when a monthly runs. Nor will the monthly (or weekly) be suspended when the yearly is run. If anyone has any ideas I'd be grateful to hear them. Thanks. Austin Murphy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retent ions
The RMAN script can specify two variables, NB_ORA_POLICY NB_ORA_SCHED. To direct a rman backup to a specific schedule in a policy, just set the latter. Just found this from Veritas: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/261087.htm They're answering just this question. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hampus Lind Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:56 AM To: 'Whelan, Patrick'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: SV: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retentions Hi guys, Can you have several, different application backup scheds in the same policy? Dosen`t netbackup take the first listed and use it for all backups within that policy? If I write the policy and sched into the oracle backup script will it work with all the scheds? Do I need to make some kind of scripting (IF and ELSE and so on) into the script to make it work? Today we have one policy per retention, it`s a mess, but we haven`t got this to work earlier. Many thanks, MVH / Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Whelan, Patrick Skickat: den 19 januari 2006 18:24 Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Ämne: RE: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retentions In researching some answers to the original post I was reminded that most Oracle backups use an infinite retention level with RMAN managing the actual retention level. Does this ring any bells for anyone else, or am I getting senile in my old age. Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Architect Engineering -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2006 17:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retentions I can answer for Oracle - I assume that the MSSQL would be similar. When your RMAN script runs, it sends data to the Netbackup Oracle agent. The agent, in turn, sends the data onto a Netbackup media server, to a particular policy schedule. In the RMAN script, you can specify the NB_ORA_POLICY and NB_ORA_SCHEDULE variables. These variables select which Netbackup (Oracle-type) policy schedule are used to recieve the data. Netbackup's retention of the data, therefore, is the retention period set on these application backup schedules. At the end of the retention period, therefore, NB will discard the images. If you want three different retentions, create three different schedules (it can be in the same policy). Have RMAN set the schedule variable appropriate to the type of retention you wish to select. This has nothing to do with retention periods set by RMAN within the RMAN scripts. RMAN can say keep this for a year and what it really is doing is keeping its info on those data blocks for a year. If it tries to restore an old image, it's going to request specific backup pieces from Netbackup. If NB's scheduled retention is less than RMAN's retention, there's a risk that RMAN will get a failure from NB - the images will no longer be in NB's image set. There's two ways to deal with this: 1. Set NB's retention to be the same (or more) than RMAN's retention periods. 2. Frequently sync RMAN's catalog against NB's catalog so RMAN stays current with NB's actual retained data. This is the most accurate but more complex. Here's a technote to get you started: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/251686.htm HTH - M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Austin Murphy Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:23 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retentions Does anyone have any insight on how to do scheduled weekly/monthly/yearly backups (with commensurate retention periods) of an MSSQL or Oracle database with Netbackup? I am running 5.1 MP3 on Solaris 9 and just found out that the database policy schedules don't work the same way as the file policy schedules. It has been pointed out to me that I could setup 3 Policies for weekly/monthly/yearly backups, but this won't stop the weekly when a monthly runs. Nor will the monthly (or weekly) be suspended when the yearly is run. If anyone has any ideas I'd be grateful to hear them. Thanks. Austin Murphy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retent ions
Oops, wrong again. There's three different Automatic backup choices in the pulldown, full, diff incr. The NB_ORA_CINC NB_ORA_INCR must be changed in these choices. Not future implementation, it's current implemention. -M -Original Message- From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:39 PM To: 'Austin Murphy'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retent ions Our DBA's determine in their RMAN script which type of backup they want, incr, full, etc. This do this themselves based on day of week (fulls on weekends, etc.). They have a case statement just set the NB_ORA_SCHED variable appropriately. If you want to do this via Netbackup's scheduling, then I think you could do this with a single policy with three trigger (Automatic Full Backup) schedules (these call the rman backup script). Each trigger schedule gets a unique schedule, frequency, etc., or course. The trigger schedule name is passed into the RMAN script as the NB_ORA_PC_SCHED variable, no need to mine logfiles to find it. So, your RMAN code would contain: case $NB_ORA_PC_SCHED in schedname1 ) NB_ORA_SCHED=Monthly ;; schedname2 ) NB_ORA_SCHED=Yearly ;; schedname3 ) NB_ORA_SCHED=Daily ;; esac Of course, change the above to fit your environment but the logic is probably useful. The policy name is sent into the script using the NB_ORA_POLICY variable, by the way, so there's no need to set this. The variable list from my test is: NB_ORA_CINC=0 NB_ORA_CLASS=policy name NB_ORA_CLIENT=client name NB_ORA_FULL=1 NB_ORA_INCR=0 NB_ORA_MODE=B NB_ORA_PC_SCHED=trigger schedule name NB_ORA_POLICY=policy name NB_ORA_SCHEDULED=1 NB_ORA_SERV=master server name The NB_ORA_CINC NB_ORA_INCR seems strange - there's no current full/diff/cumu setting in the trigger schedule's setup. Perhaps this is for future use? Just build a policy with three Automatic Full Backup schedules to call your script and three different Application Backup schedules to receive the data and you're set. HTH - M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Austin Murphy Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:49 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retent ions Thanks! That Veritas article addressed half of my problem and it opened up a new line of inquiry. In the middle of it was this line: # Determine which schedule should receive the backup images. Yes! exactly! but how?! I saw bphdb somewhere and I remembered it had a log... on the client. In the log was this little gem: NB_ORA_PC_SCHED which gets set with the CALLING Automatic Backup schedule name. This should be sufficient to solve my problem! I'll setup a little logic in the RMAN script that chooses the correct Application Backup schedule based on the above variable and submit it to RMAN as stated in the Veritas article. I'll post results once I have it working. Austin On 1/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The RMAN script can specify two variables, NB_ORA_POLICY NB_ORA_SCHED. To direct a rman backup to a specific schedule in a policy, just set the latter. Just found this from Veritas: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/261087.htm They're answering just this question. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hampus Lind Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:56 AM To: 'Whelan, Patrick'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: SV: [Veritas-bu] Database backup scheduling with different retentions Hi guys, Can you have several, different application backup scheds in the same policy? Dosen`t netbackup take the first listed and use it for all backups within that policy? If I write the policy and sched into the oracle backup script will it work with all the scheds? Do I need to make some kind of scripting (IF and ELSE and so on) into the script to make it work? Today we have one policy per retention, it`s a mess, but we haven`t got this to work earlier. Many thanks, MVH / Hampus Lind ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] URGENT CLARIFITION -= Help
Yeah - what they all said. Backupid's have individual expiration dates, the
media's expiration date should be the latest image expiration date on that
tape.
Also - most likely he wants the backups for a particular client for a
particular date range to be have their expiration dates extended.
To do this, first lookup the backup-ids you need to extend:
bpimagelist -client clientname -d start_date -e end_date -idonly | awk
'{print $8}' | tee /tmp/bpidlist
now /tmp/bpidlist has a list of backupids for this client date range. Now
extend them:
for id in `cat /tmp/bpidlist`
do
echo Extending $id
bpexpdate -recalculate -backupid $id -d new_date -force
done
HTH - M
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Guys
I wonder if you can help clarify something for me
I have been asked to ensure a backup SESSION does not expire on the 17th Jan
06 - Today is the 13th Jan 06
Now, when I checked this policy, there are 2 tapes in a volume pool - the
guy asking me the question keeps referring to retaining a SESSION !!! Now, I
can see the tape is due to expire in 2 weeks time, but this is not
acceptable!
Is it possible, he is seeing something different to what I am? He truly
beleives that a backup will expire on the 17th!
I checked BPEXPDATE and you can specify a date for media and / or backup id
- I wonder if backup id is related to images?
Can I have an image that will expire BEFORE a tape? I guess it could?? If I
could have clarification, would truly apprecaite it
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RE: [Veritas-bu] RE: Oracle RAC backups
In my opinion, the DBA's have absolutely no need to have access to the admin
console.
You could backup every database to one policy if you with, there's not need
for a 1:1 or 2:1 ration of policies to database instances. You'll need at
least a 1:1 ratio if you're using Netbackup as the scheduler for the backups
(cold backups or no special archived redo treatment). You'll probably want
2:1 ratio if you're doing hot backups and backing up archived redo logs on a
different schedule than the data files.
Here's how we do it.
For (hot) data backups, we call the RMAN data-backup script. We use the
Netbackup scheduler for this. The policy for this looks like this:
Policy Name: P_AT-01_RM_Hot_oraclesid
Policy Type: Oracle
Active: yes
Effective date: 06/09/2003 13:42:30
Block Incremental: no
Mult. Data Streams: no
Client Encrypt: no
Checkpoint: no
Policy Priority: 5
Max Jobs/Policy: Unlimited
Disaster Recovery: 0
Residence: LTO2_Group
Volume Pool: Oracle
Keyword: (none specified)
HW/OS/Client: RS6000AIX5 at-01
Include: /opt/apps/oracle/admin/scripts/backupdb.sh
Schedule: Automatic_Scheduled_Backup
Type:Automatic Full Backup
Frequency: every 1 day
Maximum MPX: 4
Synthetic: 0
PFI Recovery:0
Retention Level: 3 (1 month)
Number Copies: 1
Fail on Error: 0
Residence: (specific storage unit not required)
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool)
Daily Windows:
Sunday 19:00:00 -- Sunday 23:00:00
Schedule: DATASCHED
Type:Application Backup
Maximum MPX: 4
Synthetic: 0
PFI Recovery:0
Retention Level: 3 (1 month)
Number Copies: 1
Fail on Error: 0
Residence: (specific storage unit not required)
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool)
Daily Windows:
Sunday 00:00:00 -- Sunday 24:00:00
Monday 00:00:00 -- Monday 24:00:00
Tuesday00:00:00 -- Tuesday24:00:00
Wednesday 00:00:00 -- Wednesday 24:00:00
Thursday 00:00:00 -- Thursday 24:00:00
Friday 00:00:00 -- Friday 24:00:00
Saturday 00:00:00 -- Saturday 24:00:00
OK, then.
The policy type is Oracle - no surpise there. Everything else in the
general policy attributes is pretty much self explanatory - nothing special
here.
The Automatic_Scheduled_Backup schedule is what I call the trigger
schedule, the NB schedule type is Automatic Full Backup.
This is the schedule that will run the RMAN backup script on the at-01
client. The RMAN backup script on the client is the one on the INCLUDE
line. The script knows what this policy name is (it comes in as a
command-line parameter) or it could have the policy name hard-coded
somewhere in the script. When the RMAN script is run is controlled by the
standard scheduling windows for that schedule.
The other schedule is the one that recieves the data blocks from oracle,
schedule type Application Backup. It has a 7x24 schedule because we want
to receive the data blocks whenever they're sent. This way, the DBA's can
run their RMAN script on demand, bypassing the trigger schedule, and the
policy is capable of recieving the blocks whenever they're sent. This give
the DBA's a large level of control on their backups without actually giving
them control of Netbackup.
(This is actually a simplified printout, we have different schedules for
RMAN Full Incremental backups. The choice of full incremental is left up
to the RMAN script {based on day-of-week} and it chooses the schedule name
appropriate for that type of backup. The reason for two schedules to
receive the data blocks is that full backups on production databases use
inline-tape-copy to create two copies, one for offsite. Incrementals are
not duplicated. The policy above is for a test environment database so it
really doesn't need different schedules for full vs. incremental. Without
this need to treat fulls and incrementals differently, this could be done
with only a single Application Backup type schedule.)
Each hot backup has a sister policy for the archived redo backups. The
trigger schedule for these is set to run every 6 hours, three times a day,
to backup the archived-redo (6-hour freq on a 13-hour window), calling a
specific backup script for RMAN archived redo. They also have an
application backup schedule to receive the blocks from the archived redo.
We have threshold monitors on the archived-redo filesystems that can call
the archived-redo script if the filesystems get too full. This prevents the
filesystem from overfilling if we have a hot hour of activity.
The reason for separate Hot Archive policies is historical and I just
can't get the DBA's to rewrite their backup script.
Here's
RE: [Veritas-bu] RE: Oracle RAC backups
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In my opinion, the DBA's have absolutely no need to have access to the admin
console.
You could backup every database to one policy if you wish, there's no need
for a 1:1 or 2:1 ration of policies to database instances. You'll need at
least a 1:1 ratio if you're using Netbackup as the scheduler for the backups
(cold backups or no special archived redo treatment). You'll probably want
2:1 ratio if you're doing hot backups and backing up archived redo logs on a
different schedule than the data files.
Here's how we do it.
For (hot) data backups, we call the RMAN data-backup script. We use the
Netbackup scheduler for this. The policy for this looks like this:
Policy Name: P_AT-01_RM_Hot_oraclesid
Policy Type: Oracle
Active: yes
Effective date: 06/09/2003 13:42:30
Block Incremental: no
Mult. Data Streams: no
Client Encrypt: no
Checkpoint: no
Policy Priority: 5
Max Jobs/Policy: Unlimited
Disaster Recovery: 0
Residence: LTO2_Group
Volume Pool: Oracle
Keyword: (none specified)
HW/OS/Client: RS6000AIX5 at-01
Include: /opt/apps/oracle/admin/scripts/backupdb.sh
Schedule: Automatic_Scheduled_Backup
Type:Automatic Full Backup
Frequency: every 1 day
Maximum MPX: 4
Synthetic: 0
PFI Recovery:0
Retention Level: 3 (1 month)
Number Copies: 1
Fail on Error: 0
Residence: (specific storage unit not required)
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool)
Daily Windows:
Sunday 19:00:00 -- Sunday 23:00:00
Schedule: DATASCHED
Type:Application Backup
Maximum MPX: 4
Synthetic: 0
PFI Recovery:0
Retention Level: 3 (1 month)
Number Copies: 1
Fail on Error: 0
Residence: (specific storage unit not required)
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool)
Daily Windows:
Sunday 00:00:00 -- Sunday 24:00:00
Monday 00:00:00 -- Monday 24:00:00
Tuesday00:00:00 -- Tuesday24:00:00
Wednesday 00:00:00 -- Wednesday 24:00:00
Thursday 00:00:00 -- Thursday 24:00:00
Friday 00:00:00 -- Friday 24:00:00
Saturday 00:00:00 -- Saturday 24:00:00
OK, then.
The policy type is Oracle - no surpise there. Everything else in the
general policy attributes is pretty much self explanatory - nothing special
here.
The Automatic_Scheduled_Backup schedule is what I call the trigger
schedule, the NB schedule type is Automatic Full Backup.
This is the schedule that will run the RMAN backup script on the at-01
client. The RMAN backup script on the client is the one on the INCLUDE
line. The script knows what this policy name is (it comes in as a
command-line parameter) or it could have the policy name hard-coded
somewhere in the script. When the RMAN script is run is controlled by the
standard scheduling windows for that schedule.
The other schedule is the one that recieves the data blocks from oracle,
schedule type Application Backup. It has a 7x24 schedule because we want
to receive the data blocks whenever they're sent. This way, the DBA's can
run their RMAN script on demand, bypassing the trigger schedule, and the
policy is capable of recieving the blocks whenever they're sent. This give
the DBA's a large level of control on their backups without actually giving
them control of Netbackup.
(This is actually a simplified printout, we have different schedules for
RMAN Full Incremental backups. The choice of full incremental is left up
to the RMAN script {based on day-of-week} and it chooses the schedule name
appropriate for that type of backup. The reason for two schedules to
receive the data blocks is that full backups on production databases use
inline-tape-copy to create two copies, one for offsite. Incrementals are
not duplicated. The policy above is for a test environment database so it
really doesn't need different schedules for full vs. incremental. Without
this need to treat fulls and incrementals differently, this could be done
with only a single Application Backup type schedule.)
Each hot backup has a sister policy for the archived redo backups. The
trigger schedule for these is set to run every 6 hours, three times a day,
to backup the archived-redo (6-hour freq on a 13-hour window), calling a
specific backup script for RMAN archived redo. They also have an
application backup schedule to receive the blocks from the archived redo.
We have threshold monitors on the archived-redo filesystems that can call
the archived-redo script if the filesystems get too full. This prevents the
filesystem from overfilling if we have a hot hour of
RE: [Veritas-bu] RMAN Error in Solaris 8
Can't say I've seen this before but these two lines: RMAN-10031: ORA-19624 occurred during call to DBMS_BACKUP_RESTORE.BACKUPPIECECREATE Strongly imply the error is within Oracle RMAN itself. RMAN creates the backup piece, then delivers it to netbackup's agent for backup to tape. It appears to be erroring at the creation of the backup piece. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Porcelli Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:10 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] RMAN Error in Solaris 8 Hi folks, having problems with some of our Oracle RMAN backups. See errors below. Has anyone else come across this problem ? Thanks for any info. Paul Excerpt from RMAN Log === RMAN-03026: error recovery releasing channel resources RMAN-08031: released channel: c1 RMAN-08031: released channel: c2 RMAN-08031: released channel: c3 RMAN-08031: released channel: c4 RMAN-00571: === RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS === RMAN-00571: === RMAN-10035: exception raised in RPC: O RMAN-10031: ORA-19624 occurred during call to DBMS_BACKUP_RESTORE.BACKUPPIECECREATE RMAN-10035: exception raised in RPC: O RMAN-10031: ORA-19624 occurred during call to DBMS_BACKUP_RESTORE.BACKUPPIECECREATE RMAN-10035: exception raised in RPC: O RMAN-10031: ORA-19624 occurred during call to DBMS_BACKUP_RESTORE.BACKUPPIECECREATE RMAN-03006: non-retryable error occurred during execution of command: backup RMAN-07004: unhandled exception during command execution on channel c1 RMAN-10035: exception raised in RPC: ORA-27062: skgfospo: could not find pending async I/Os RMAN-10031: ORA-19583 occurred during call to DBMS_BACKUP_RESTORE.BACKUPPIECECREATE === Oracle error description = oerr ora 27062 27062, 0, skgfospo: could not find pending async I/Os // *Cause: internal error, there should have been some async I/Os in // the system but a blocking aiowait indicates that there are // no more I/Os // *Action: check for trace file and contact Oracle Support Privileged/Confidential information may be contained in this Email and any files transmitted with it. If you are not the intended recipient you should not retain, copy or use this Email for any purpose or disclose all or part of its contents to any person. If you have received this Email in error please notify the postmaster and sender immediately and delete this Email from your system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Scottish Water (SW) and / or Scottish Water Solutions Ltd (SWS) shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by them. The contents of Emails sent and received by SW and SWS are monitored. WARNING: Although SW and SWS have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses or other malicious software are present, SW and SWS cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this Email or attachments however caused. The recipient should therefore check this Email and any attachments for the presence of viruses or other malicious software. Scottish Water www.scottishwater.co.uk www.scottishwatersolutions.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] I have manually duplicated Tapes / Images
Since you know the image name: bpimagelist -backupid bpid Look for this: IMAGE ug-50 0 0 7 ug-50_1137009456 P_NAS_1_FS 0 *NULL* root Monthly 0HISTO -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1FRAG 1 1 2304 0 2 14 47 004958 ug-50 262144 479976 1135940822 9 0 *NULFRAG 1 2 256 0 2 14 48 004958 ug-50 262144 479997 1135940822 9 0 *NULLFRAG 1 3 42496 0 2 14 49 004958 ug-50 262144 480002 1135940822 9 0 *NUFRAG 1 4 10124 0 2 14 50 004958 ug-50 262144 480170 1135940822 9 0 *NUFRAG 2 1 2304 0 2 14 1 003537 ug-50 262144 2 1137009456 13 0 *NULL* 11FRAG 2 2 256 0 2 14 2 003537 ug-50 262144 23 1137009456 13 0 *NULL* 0FRAG 2 3 42496 0 2 14 3 003537 ug-50 262144 28 1137009456 13 0 *NULL*FRAG 2 4 10124 0 2 14 4 003537 ug-50 262144 196 1137009456 13 0 *NULL* There's two sets of FRAG entries, the second field is the copy number. So the example above has two copies. You can just expire the first copy, the promotion of the second copy to primary copy is automatic. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Joseph DespresSent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:34 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] I have manually duplicated Tapes / ImagesI have manually duplicated tapes / images. Now I would like to verify that this has been done... I have a list off all the image names affected Is there a Command line out there that would help? Once I verify I'm going to make these images the primary Then delete the originals. Thanks. Joe Despres...This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose.
RE: [Veritas-bu] exclude list on Linux client
Title: Message look for stray spaces in the exclude list. Trailing spaces are significant, even in unix backups because the exclude list is made consistent for windows, too. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Pillapalem, SmithaSent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:41 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] exclude list on Linux client Any suggestions please? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Pillapalem, SmithaSent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:01 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduCc: Pillapalem, SmithaSubject: [Veritas-bu] exclude list on Linux client Hi all, I'm on NB 5.1 - I have 2 Linux clients(util1 and util2 )under a policy and with the following filelist /export /root /home /etc /var /u/d01 /usr /lib All I need is to exclude /u/d01 , /usr and /lib from one of the clients (util2) - I created a exclude list on util2 as follows - [EMAIL PROTECTED] netbackup]# cat exclude_list/usr/lib/u/d01But NB still is backing up the above 3 dir's on util2 - Any idea y? Thanks in advance.. Smitha
RE: [Veritas-bu] Vmware virtual machines vs Netbackup
Thanks all - I have no worries on this now. -M ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84
A correction for the third condition is adding a larger value CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT value to your bp.conf on your client. It'll make the media server more tolerant to slow conditions on the client. I find it especially valuable on my large database servers. I ahve a value of 10800 seconds per client as a matter of course now: CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT = 10800 HTH -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:41 AM To: Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84 On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 08:10:56AM -0600, Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS wrote: Ok, I am having a huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up. My master server is a unix and the file server is win2k3. I have a ESL9000 attached to a san switch that the file server is attached too. Problem with the job is it will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84 (media write error). I have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I have used new tapes and still get this error. I am wondering if its something with the switch or if it's the drives. It happens on multiple drives not just one. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts. I've seen at least 3 different classification of 84 errors: 1. Bad tape or tape drive. You've eliminated this. 2. A full disk staging unit. You're not using DSSUs. 3. Connectivity issues between media server and tape drive. This is where the fun happens... Check your switch ports for errors on the ports. I had this happen when I had my ISLs set for 2Gbps and found out later that the fibre wasn't capable of being driven at 2Gbps for that distance. I dropped my ISL speed to 1Gbps and it's working fine (still out of spec and giving me buffer credit issues but error-free from the backup point of view). My fibre is actually being replaced now. Have a good look at your SAN switch logs and the host error logs. When I had my issue, I was logging scsi errors on the hosts (even though the drives are on the other end of a fibre/scsi bridge). .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning Tape Process NBU 5.1 Not functioning
Dean pegged the problem with the library reading the rightmost characters, not the leftmost set. Find your library manual and fix that. Delete the incorrect tape entry entirely and reinventory to get the tape defined correctly (or just manually fix it all - check the vmquery output for your current tape to make sure it's defined as a cleaning tape). Barcode rules are intended for automatically managing more than one tape. For example, for cleaning tapes, my barcode rule is ==rule number: 0barcode tag: CLNmedia type: HC_CLNpool name: Nonecleanings: 50description: HCART Cleaning Tape== The "tag" value is simply "CLN". Any tape injected starting "CLN" will be added as a HCART cleaning tape. You probably shouldn't define a barcode rule for a single tape - it's just wasteful and doesn't help you on the nextcleaning tape to be injected. I've got barcode rules that identiffy all tape numbers greater than 5000 to be LTO2 tapes while tapes less than this are LTO1 tapes. Very magical when managing more than one type of tape in your library. Anyway - HTH - M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of DeanSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:34 AMTo: WEAVER, SimonCc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning Tape Process NBU 5.1 Not functioning Netbackup sees the tape as Media ID N000L1 Barcode Tag CLN0001Might be something wrong there.I don't know about that HP library (rebadged Quantum or ATL?). With STK libraries, if you put a cleaning tape in the correct slot, the library will automatically clean the drives when required, and NetBackup doesn't need to know about it - it doesn't even know about the cleaning tape. Cheers,Dean On 1/6/06, WEAVER, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning I am having some problems getting Netbackup to use a Cleaning Tape on a NBU 5.1 MP1 Win2k3 Master Server. I have a Cleaning Tape called CLN0001L as a Barcode. I have inserted into my HP EVL Tape Library into SLOT 1. Netbackup sees the tape as Media ID N000L1 Now, reading the SysAdmin guide, it talks about creating a rule for barcodes, therefore I created a rule as follows: Barcode Tag CLN0001 Max Mounts 40 Media Type 1/2 Cleaning Tape Volume Pool NONE (and I have confirmed the tape is in this pool) Description - Cleaning Tape So, rule created, I tried to use the GUI to run a clean but netbackup does not see the tape or actually recognise it! Im wondering if anyone can advise where I have gone wrong? I can do a clean from the Robot, but its a very long process Thank you So from the Robot Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is for the intended addressee only.If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it.Please notify the sender by return email.The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited.Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation.EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England
RE: [Veritas-bu] Big Oops - NB v6.0.
Oh - better yet, in the version section farther down, it's explict that MP1 has this fixed: Products Applied: NetBackup Enterprise Server 6.0, 6.0 MP1 (Fixed) NetBackup Server 6.0, 6.0 MP1 (Fixed) -Original Message- From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:50 AM To: 'Piszcz, Justin'; Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Big Oops - NB v6.0. The note, under the Workarounds section says to use the workarounds until you can get MP1 installed. Implication is that problem doesn't exist in v6.0 MP1. -M -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Big Oops - NB v6.0. This is horrid-- with MP1 does it support 5 character tape IDs or do you still have to do the re-inventory/etc? Justin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:06 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Big Oops - NB v6.0. Tapes with Media ID's less than 6 characters in length are incorrectly deassigned by the automatic process. http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/280868.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Mark Donaldson - Systems Administrator - 303-664-2040 Corporate Express - Broomfield, Colorado +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ The information contained in this email transmission and any attachments is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated named herein. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document and its attachment in error, and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and return and delete the original message immediately. Thank you. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Big Oops - NB v6.0.
The note, under the Workarounds section says to use the workarounds until you can get MP1 installed. Implication is that problem doesn't exist in v6.0 MP1. -M -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Big Oops - NB v6.0. This is horrid-- with MP1 does it support 5 character tape IDs or do you still have to do the re-inventory/etc? Justin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:06 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Big Oops - NB v6.0. Tapes with Media ID's less than 6 characters in length are incorrectly deassigned by the automatic process. http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/280868.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Mark Donaldson - Systems Administrator - 303-664-2040 Corporate Express - Broomfield, Colorado +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ The information contained in this email transmission and any attachments is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated named herein. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document and its attachment in error, and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and return and delete the original message immediately. Thank you. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading from 4.5-6
Nope - you'll have to install v5.x first. From the installation guide: You can upgrade to this version of NetBackup only if you have installed NetBackup 5.0MP4 (or later) or 5.1. If you have an earlier version installed (for example NetBackup 4.5), you cannot upgrade directly to NetBackup 6.0. You must first upgrade to NetBackup 5.x and then upgrade. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fernandes, Eustace Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 1:46 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading from 4.5-6 Can I upgrade 4.5MP6 to 5.1 then immediately upgrade to 6. 1 master also media server 1 media server, share same volDB, image catalog and robot Eustace Fernandes Technical Support mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voice (403) 237-1534 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Need some help determining the last file backed up during a failed backup.
If you use bpimagelist to query - do you have a valid image for that time? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Piszcz, JustinSent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:00 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: FW: [Veritas-bu] Need some help determining the last file backed up during a failed backup. ANOTHER THEORY: The IMAGE LIST may only be written at 200GB, 400GB (AT EACH TAPE SPANNING) - so this may be incorrect, basically there is no way to truly know. Justin. I did get some data but I wonder if NETBACKUP WRITES the image list AFTER it fills up a tape? But the following tape which it died on, maybe not? Justin. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Piszcz, JustinSent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:47 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Need some help determining the last file backed up during a failed backup. What is the best way to determine the last successful file backed up before a particular backup failed? Justin.
[Veritas-bu] RE: +AFs-Veritas-bu+AF0- list of all files backed up
If you want a specific jobid's files, you'll have to cross-reference some stuff: bperror -jobid jobnum ...and search for the backupid: clientname_timestamp (on a line with successfully wrote backupid in my test here). Then you can query files in that backupid using bpflist: bpflist -backupid bpid (lots of other options). bpflist is very unfriendly, you often have to specify what seems to be an excessive amount of unnecessary info. Considering the backup id is specific to a timeframe and a client, I've often had to supply these as options anyway. If you want something automated (or if your version of NB doesn't support the jobid option for bperror)...(or if you need to search back farther than your job database retention), I'd recommend using bpimagelist and a timeframe to query the images backed up, field 45 of the IMAGE record is the jobid and field 6 of that same record is the backup-id. You can then feed that into bpflist. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kilpatrick, Mark Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:14 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] list of all files backed up I have been attempting to use one of the netbackup commands to provide me with a list of files that were backed up by a job. Can this be done using bplist and what is the correct syntax. For example, a policy with one client backing up one directory and a job ID of 3685. The directory will contain approx 100 files at the time of backup and I would like to print the list of files backed up. Thanks, Mark Due to continued expansion Sabeo Technologies have moved office – to The Courtyard, Carmanhall Road, Sandyford, Dublin 18. Our telephone and fax numbers remain unchanged. A location map is available on our website www.sabeo.com. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Sabeo Technologies. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding bp_start and bp_stop.
it should be: bpstart_notify (all policies schedules) bpstart_notify.policyname (fixed policy, all schedules in that policy) bpstart_notify.policyname.schedulename (one policy, one sched in that policy) bpstop_notify has the same format. These go on the client, by the way. Policy schedule names are case sensitive. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Piszcz, Justin Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:33 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding bp_start and bp_stop. I need to backup an Oracle database and I will be using bp_start and bp_stop. However, I only want it to backup on a certain policy or schedule. Would I name it bp.start_Schedule-Name? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding bp_start and bp_stop.
It will indeed run once for every image that's started. Multiplexing doesn't matter but multiple streams does. You have to code around this if that's not the behavior you want. For this there's a couple of environment variables that are set at script-run time. Search the docs for STREAM_NUMBER and STREAM_COUNT. ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES will start one backup per drive letter/filesystem if enable multiple streams is checked. -M -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Cc: Harvey, Brian Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding bp_start and bp_stop. Thanks, I just verified this in the UNIX_MediaGuideII-- thanks! Odd though, I am not using multiplexing or multiple streams and I get multiple e-mails (I have it send me an email when it gets called), maybe it runs it fo reach partition of ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES, I will try it for a specific path. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:06 PM To: Piszcz, Justin; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding bp_start and bp_stop. it should be: bpstart_notify (all policies schedules) bpstart_notify.policyname (fixed policy, all schedules in that policy) bpstart_notify.policyname.schedulename (one policy, one sched in that policy) bpstop_notify has the same format. These go on the client, by the way. Policy schedule names are case sensitive. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Piszcz, Justin Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:33 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding bp_start and bp_stop. I need to backup an Oracle database and I will be using bp_start and bp_stop. However, I only want it to backup on a certain policy or schedule. Would I name it bp.start_Schedule-Name? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] realt time to ctime
Fairly tough, really. You have to resort to another tool. I'd use the gnu-date function (your first list item): gdate --date=12/6/2005 19:36:09 +%s 1133922969 You'll have to convert the text to numeric reformat a bit. No doubt, the perl date function has something similar. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Stump Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:10 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] realt time to ctime How can I get the correct ctime equivalent for: assigned: Tue Dec 06 19:36:09 2005 assigned: Tue Dec 06 08:14:55 2005 assigned: Wed Dec 07 00:45:46 2005 assigned: Tue Dec 06 10:43:46 2005 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] More Media Fun!
Title: Message Well, the tape you've queried is already deassigned (see the "assigned" field below). "deassignbyid" is a big hammer of command options - I try to do everything I can before I resort to this. -MA common "not found in NB media database" is the need to specify the media server for the tape on the command line, usually a "-h mediaserver" option. You can find the media server for a tape with "bpmedialist -m mediaid". -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:44 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] More Media Fun! I'm trying to expire some long offsite media from my UNIX Netbackup media server and I get the following: bpexpdate -m SU440S -d 0 -host backitup -forcerequested media id was not found in NB media database and/or MM volume database So I try... vmquery -deassignbyid SU440S 6 0media ID: SU440Smedia type: DLT cartridge tape 2 (16)barcode: BSU440Smedia description: SuperDLT 220 Tapevolume pool: SUPER_POOL (6)robot type: NONE - Not Robotic (0)volume group: ---vault name: ---vault sent date: ---vault return date: ---vault slot: ---vault session id: ---created: Thu Oct 30 15:33:52 2003assigned: ---last mounted: Sat Nov 01 01:39:42 2003first mount: Sat Nov 01 01:39:42 2003expiration date: ---number of mounts: 1max mounts allowed: --- This always works in my NT Environment.. what am I doing wrong / any ideas on where to go from here? Thanks as always, -Jonathan
RE: [Veritas-bu] using vmoprcmd to configure media server
Here's the extended command syntax below. It says just to include the tpconfig command options in the quoted string for -devconfig. I tested using a simple -l for one of my configured servers and it looked just fine. That suggests, therefore: vmoprcmd -h mediasvr -devconfig tpconfig options HTH -M $ vmoprcmd -Q UNSUPPORTED OPTIONS -M master_server Same as -h. -verbose Not implemented. -display Obsolete. See -d. -xd [pr|ds] If none of the following parameters are specified, all information is displayed. pr - Display pending requests in a format intended for the X GUI. ds - Display the status of drives under control of Media Manager in a format intended for the X GUI. -xdisplay Obsolete. See -xd. -xdraw [pr|ds] If none of the following parameters are specified, all information is displayed. This option is used by java. pr - Display pending requests in a raw format. ds - Display the status of drives under control of Media Manager in a raw format. -scanbyname drive_name Get scan information for a drive, specified by drive_name. This option is for testing use only. -startltid Start ltid. This option is used by java. -stopltid Stop ltid. This option is used by java. -devconfig tpconfig command options Send device configuration commands to tpconfig. This option is used by java. -autoconfig tpautoconf command options Send device configuration commands to tpautoconf. This option is used by java. -format tpformat command options Send media configuration commands to tpformat. This option is used by java. -cleanlist Display drive cleaning information. -clean Send media configuration commands to tpclean. This option is used by java. -xdpa mount_request_index Display the text of the pending action for the mount_request_index. -extrob Display the external_robotics file. -extden Display the external_densities file. -extdt Display the external_drivetypes file. -extmt Display the external_mediatypes file. -extall Display the external_robotics, external_densities, external_drivetypes, and external_mediatypes files. -hosttype Get the host type and status of ltid. This option is used by java. -releaseversion Get the Media Manager release version string. -SSOupbyname drive_name UP all host-drive instances of this SSO drive. -SSOdownbyname drive_name DOWN all host-drive instances of this SSO drive. -SSOdisplay drive_name Display the drive status of all host-drive instances of this SSO drive. -timeout value Timeout to use during device discovery. Defaults is 300 seconds. -ctimeout value Connection timeout to use when connecting to vmd. Defaults is 60 seconds. -hostinfo Get the host type, status of ltid, and Media Manager release version string. -set_ndmp_attr set_ndmp_attr command options Send commands to set_ndmp_attr. -tlmtest tlm robotic test utility command options Send commands tlmtest. -tlhtest tlh robotic test utility command options Send commands to tlhtest. -extattr Display external attributes. -shmreq Display requests in shared memory. -shmdrive Display drives in shared memory. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Stump Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:48 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] using vmoprcmd to configure media server There is an undocumented usage of vmoprcmd to configure a remote media server from the master server. It will add the robot and drives to a window server if you do not otherwise have access to the server. as root on the master server # vmoprcmd something -host remote media server tpsomething anyone know? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Browsing the catalog for old hosts
Every client has its own directory entry under ../db/images so every client ever backed up would be: ls /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/ -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Freels Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:07 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Browsing the catalog for old hosts Greetings and Mele Kalikimaka! This might have been covered before, but is there a way to browse the catalog and pull out a list of all the hosts that have ever been backed up from the beginning of time? I've gotten a request from someone for a restore, but they are uncertain of the name of the host. Since the backups took place over three years ago, it's before my time at this company and the backups could quite possibly have been done on a different host, hostname, network, or even a different backup system (which I need to find out). Since I don't know the name of the host, I have no way to enter it in the Source Client field to browse the backups. Maybe something like bpcatlist, but that seems to still require host or policy names NB 4.51_FP6, Solaris Thanks, as always. k -==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Kevin Freels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior UNIX SysAdmin 510.985.7444 Ask Jeeves ask.com We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well and live. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding available tapes.
bpmedialist will give you a count of how how many bytes are on the tape (kbytes column): bpmedialist -U Server Host = X id rl images allocatedlast updated density kbytes restores vimages expiration last read --- STATUS --- 004526 3310 08/21/2005 03:40 12/11/2005 06:36 hcart261698920 0 MPX 01/11/2006 06:36N/A 004696 3874 11/20/2005 02:37 12/12/2005 02:33 hcart2 318870566 0 MPX 01/12/2006 02:33N/A 004801 4 32 11/15/2005 19:54 11/15/2005 19:55 hcart281122987 0 MPX 01/16/2006 19:55N/A 005165 6 6 06/15/2005 19:33 06/15/2005 19:33 hcart219992648 2 MPX 06/15/2006 19:33 07/11/2005 15:52 005265 3 1874 06/10/2005 16:54 12/11/2005 06:01 hcart2 557969356 0 MPX 01/11/2006 07:29N/A After that, you're starting to guess. Because the amount of bytes per tape can vary by the compressibilty of the data, the total amount of bytes actually stored on the tape can vary. The closest you can do is calculate some sort of average compression ratio by looking at full tapes, then estimate based on that for your non-full tapes. Personally, I'd do this by volume pool as my compressibility is going to vary a lot by data source. HTH - M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Piszcz, Justin Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding available tapes. Hello, I can easily see how many scratch tapes, those that have not been written to yet. However, I probably have several tapes that are currently not fully filled up, scratch tapes that had a few fragments written to it. Is there anyway to determine how full the tapes are? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding available tapes.
Yeah - text stuff is pretty squishy - it'll get down there - I've seen much more than the average 2:1. My database backups only get about 1.3:1 or so, not very compressible. It varies a lot by data type. ...and, yes, it's the amount *on* the tape - but that's disk bytes sent to that tape, not tape bytes occupied. If you see 100G reported as being on the tape, it may only be taking up 50GB of actual tape media. Like I said, the amount remaining, given compression, is very hard to calculate. -M -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding available tapes. Interesting though, I use LTO2 which are 200/400GB, but with compression, it ranges from 400-500gb on some tapes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:00 PM To: Piszcz, Justin; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding available tapes. bpmedialist will give you a count of how how many bytes are on the tape (kbytes column): bpmedialist -U Server Host = X id rl images allocatedlast updated density kbytes restores vimages expiration last read --- STATUS --- 004526 3310 08/21/2005 03:40 12/11/2005 06:36 hcart2 61698920 0 MPX 01/11/2006 06:36N/A 004696 3874 11/20/2005 02:37 12/12/2005 02:33 hcart2 318870566 0 MPX 01/12/2006 02:33N/A 004801 4 32 11/15/2005 19:54 11/15/2005 19:55 hcart2 81122987 0 MPX 01/16/2006 19:55N/A 005165 6 6 06/15/2005 19:33 06/15/2005 19:33 hcart2 19992648 2 MPX 06/15/2006 19:33 07/11/2005 15:52 005265 3 1874 06/10/2005 16:54 12/11/2005 06:01 hcart2 557969356 0 MPX 01/11/2006 07:29N/A After that, you're starting to guess. Because the amount of bytes per tape can vary by the compressibilty of the data, the total amount of bytes actually stored on the tape can vary. The closest you can do is calculate some sort of average compression ratio by looking at full tapes, then estimate based on that for your non-full tapes. Personally, I'd do this by volume pool as my compressibility is going to vary a lot by data source. HTH - M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Piszcz, Justin Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question regarding available tapes. Hello, I can easily see how many scratch tapes, those that have not been written to yet. However, I probably have several tapes that are currently not fully filled up, scratch tapes that had a few fragments written to it. Is there anyway to determine how full the tapes are? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Back referencing active jobs from mounted tapes
Here's another potentially helpful script. We had a critical restore hanging the other day because the tape needed for restore was occupied by a long-running backup. This script can take a tape number and return any active jobs running on it. The jobid can then be suspended or cancelled by you to free-up the tape. ksh-script, sorry Windows folks... -M tapes2jobs Description: Binary data
RE: [Veritas-bu] changing pool name
I think the volDB stores pool by both name and number. You might get in trouble by changing the poolDB file. Do a vmquery -w -a to see both fields (fields 12 13). -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:11 AM To: 'Simon I. Tetelbaum' Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] changing pool name You should be ok then! Yes I checked, but I did wonder if a name change was not allowed, even by editing poolDB file! But if it works, its something I will take on board now :-) Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Simon I. Tetelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2005 17:12 To: WEAVER, Simon Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] changing pool name As far as I can tell, no. The image database knows the pool by number, not by name. If you print out the poolDB file, the first column is a number that netbackup associates with that pool. All images seem to reference that number rather than the pool name, so changing the pool name has no effect. Changing the number would probably be a disaster. -Simon I may be wrong, but if you change the pool name, wont the images that are linked to this pool expire? Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Simon I. Tetelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2005 16:51 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] changing pool name Hi, I wanted to change the name of one of my media pools, but couldn't find a command to do this. Will I muck up netbackup somehow if I change the pool name by editing the /usr/openv/volmgr/database/poolDB file? I've tested this somewhat and had no problems, but I'm wondering if the pool name (rather than number) is buried in some other netbackup database files that will cause end up causing problems down the line. -Simon ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] time for NDMP restores
We're looking into this (NDMP backups) and the can't restore a directory problem might be an issue. If you want to restore a directory, then, you have to find every file from that point down restore it individually? Will it create missing subdirectories, ie: restoredir/file1 restoredir/file2 restoredir/subdir1/file1 restoredir/subdir1/file2 ...If the above was your list of files to be restored, does subdir1 get created? -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:45 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] time for NDMP restores Did you request to restore files or folders? DAR is not supported for directory restores - so it is *very* important that you pick files to restore, and never folders. Otherwise it scans the whole tape, even if it already found what you wanted. William D L Brown Paul Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14-Dec-2005 16:29 To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] time for NDMP restores Hi all. it's been years since I've worked with NDMP much (NB 3.x and Auspex file servers), with 32 and 64 gig filessytems so I'm re-learning everything with NetApp, NB5.0 and TB+ filesystems, and refreshing lots of old memories. seems a restore, even of a couple files from a 600+ Gig FS backup (home directoy FS) takes HOURSlike 5-7 hours. The progress monitor shows the tape mounted, positioned, etc, then sits there for hours with no KB/s or KB restored reported, then, bam, it's done. this more or less normal? If so, do you folks have SLAs that account for this kind of timeframe for restores? or do you you snapshots exclusively for restores of user data and only use tape for DR? Paul ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Reporting
Of course, what'cha gonna do when a single stream of a multi-stream backup fails continually while the other succeed? It has to be sorted down to that level. (Like my D: drive on one problem NT box that can't stay connected long enough to back up). (Anybody else have the Cops theme in their head now?) I've attached my script that checks for repeated image-level failures. It has two parameters on the top that contol the alarm point for unix NT (different because our NT level jobs are less important to me, sorry Bill.) Resolution is in days. #Search Depth for backups DAYSBACK=2 DAYSBACKNT=3 #Mail alias for report [EMAIL PROTECTED] Change the ADDR variable above, too. It works pretty well - it uses the failures successes of the past attempts to populate what is searched for. It doesn't care how it was backed up, ie: incremental, full, etc, but just that it was attempted. If I have a full backup fail on a weekend, I'm not too concerned if an incremental was covering for me during that time - I still have a restorable backup. At this time, it only checks for Standard NT jobs - it ignores other types (Oracle, etc). The script is also not smart enough to know if a backup of a missed filesystem is currently active at the time the data is gathered. The the status of a running job is in flux, so to speak. It only reports on completed jobs. Status code 0 1 jobs are considered succesful. The DAYSBACK variable can't be any less than your longest regularly scheduled server idle time or you'll get false alarms. It's easier to give an example. If you do a weeknight incremental (M-F) and a weekend full (Sat) and nothing on Sunday normally, AND if your DAYSBACK is set to 1, then you'll get alarms on Sunday for a missed backup since no backup was recorded for that previous 24 hours. Since nothing was scheduled, it's OK that it was missed but the script isn't smart enough to know that on its own. The only interval that makes sense in this case is a 2-day value. I use a frequency + 24 hours algorithm for my shop - I do daily backups with no skipped days so 1-day would be probably too much notification but 2-days is a pretty good balance point, IMO. Anyway, for what it is, it's a pretty decent CYA for us - it may be for you, too. Script attached. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Piszcz, Justin Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:31 AM To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Reporting What I am saying is I only want to see actual failures, the two/three scripts I use show error 41 being a failure for instance, even though it is also marked as being backed up successfully. A failure [usually] means that a job failed 12 times; however, there have been cases where there is a failure with no retries. From: Paul Keating [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:37 AM To: Piszcz, Justin; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Reporting So what you're saying is that you occasionally need to re-run a job 12+ times to get a backup without a status 41 or 13? Basically you're looking for a script that tells you which machines in active policies have not had a successfull backup in the last x hours? Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Piszcz, Justin Sent: December 13, 2005 7:23 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Reporting Does anyone have a script that will ONLY report clients that REALLY failed? I have retries set to 12, even though they never usually go past this number (maybe one or two retries on a few clients) - I have two/three scripts that show them as failures, while in reality they are error(41s) or file read failed(13) which retry and run successfully. Does anyone have a full-proof reporting script? Justin. endangered_check Description: Binary data
RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning Tape SAN Media Server
Title: Message The trouble with frequency-based cleaning in an SSO environment (if you're SSO) is that the usage data isn't aggregated anywhere (at least in v5.x down). If you're not SSO, then I'd recommend a simple frequency per drive. For SSO, the official response is to use Tape-Alert cleaning, the drive can, supposedly, call for a cleaning when needed. I haven't had much success on this, though. If you use library-based cleaning, then sometimes you'll get into trouble. The library will decide to clean a drive and not inform Netbackup. Then Netbackup will attempt to mount a tape in the drive with the cleaning tape, fail, and then DOWN the drive on you. Annoying. One day, I need to wrrite something that aggregates SSO usage data and initiates a tpclean on my own defined frequency. --M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:35 AMTo: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning Tape SAN Media Server Good Morning. Well so far, I am having alot more successful backups. I get the very odd status 84 message appear, but the backups do continue and complete. Looking into this more, I wonder if my drives need cleaning. I have purchased 2 tape cleaning media's - is there a way I can configure in Netbackup to "automatically" clean the drives?? Or do you have to use TPCLEAN? For example, I will stick the cleaning tape in slot 1 - can a schedule be set to clean tapes or am I talking rubbish!? Also, if anyone has any docs on how to put in a SAN Media Server, I would TRULY apprecaite it! Tried to implement a MEdia Server over the weekend, and clearly I am doing something wrong because when I finally got it up and running, all I was seeing was a mirror image of what my master is seeing! And although I am trying to configure the SAN Media Server to go through a fibre backup, rather than LAN, this does not seem to be happening! Thanks to everyone with all of their help and input! Simon This email is for the intended addressee only.If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it.Please notify the sender by return email.The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited.Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation.EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England
RE: [Veritas-bu] Share Tape Drives for X hours
Title: Share Tape Drives for X hours Storage units cannot span media servers but storage unit groups can. I guess, you could do it with careful scheduling, backups running during the evening go to a specific storage unit. Backups scheduled for early morning go to a storage unit group that contains both storage units. Actually, I'd build two, since stu-groups have a sense of priority. Build one group with stu1 as priority a second group with stu2 on top. Each would roll to the other storage unit if the first was busy or unavailable. I guess you could also programatically alter a storage unit group by adding removing storage units from it via cron. This would be complicated perhaps wouldn't result in what you wanted anyway. Images started but not running wouldn't be affected by the change. Only jobs scheduled after the change would work correctly. I'd do it with timing storage unit groups. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Yosifovski, TammySent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:32 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Share Tape Drives for X hours Hi Netbackup smarties. Netbackup 5.1 MP 3 SSO, ACSLS on Solaris 9. I have a total of 5 9840C tape drives. 3 dedicated to a master, 2 dedicated to a media I want to share my 2 drives for a subset of hours during my complete backup window. IE 3 drives from 6 - 7 PM, 3 drives from 7 PM - 12 AM, and 5 again from 12 AM - 6:00 AM. Can this be done? How? Storage Groups? Thanks for your help!! -Thise-mailistheexclusive,privateandconfidentialpropertyofthesender.Theinformationcontainedinitisintendedsolelyfortheuseofthesenderandtheintendedrecipient.Ifyouarenottheintendedrecipientyouareherebyadvisedthatanyunauthorizeddisclosure,copying,distributionorthetakingofanyactioninrelianceonthecontentsofthismessageisstrictlyprohibited.Ifyouhavereceivedthise-mailinerror,pleasenotifyusimmediatelybytelephone(calltheUSFCorporationTechnicalSupportCenterat1-888-873-8721)andthendestroythisdocumentandanycopiesinanyformimmediately.Finally,therecipientshouldcheckthisemailandanyattachmentsforthepresenceofviruses.USFCorporationacceptsnoliabilityforanydamagecausedbyanyvirustransmittedbythisemail.-
RE: [Veritas-bu] Which backups ran on tape L00123?
Title: Message Suspending a tape keeps it from being written to until the last image on that tape expires. Then the tape returns to read/write. Freezing a tape keeps it from being written to forever. Both are options to the bpmedia command. To find images on tapes, use "bpimmedia -mediaid medianum" with appropriate options to make it pretty, etc. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul KeatingSent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:22 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Which backups ran on tape L00123? Suspend it? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Piszcz, JustinSent: December 9, 2005 10:20 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Which backups ran on tape L00123? Hello, What is the easiest way to find out what clients wrote on a particular tape? I have a tape that is going bad (keeps freezing, same one, I need to know which clients wrote on this tape). Also, is there a way to mark a tape for reading only and not writing? I use multiplexed backups, so I am sure it wrote a whole bunch of stuff on that tape. Thanks, Justin.
RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP question (drive sharing)
Thanks all, This is, unfortunately the answer I expected (no drive sharing pre-v6). So - anybody out there using v6 with SSO-shared NDMP drives? -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 3:43 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP question (drive sharing) I've been crawling the NDMP manual for an hour but haven't found a black-and-white answer yet. I have a number of Netapp Filers and we're looking at implementing NDMP backups (we currently just backup NFS mounts). I know I cannot share a set of drives between my NDMP hosts my other media servers. We're OK with the idea of carving out a set of drives exclusively for NDMP backups (yes, I know about v6.0 - we're not quite ready to convert yet). What I can't figure out is if a single SAN-connected drive can be shared directly with more than one filer. I can see that if I do a 3rd-party NDMP backup, the a single NDMP host can be used to backup the others. I'd rather not load one filer or media server with the backups of another. I'd like the blocks to go as directly to media as possible. The drive setup seems to specify which NDMP host has direct access to the drive, I guess to do what I want, I'd have to define the same robotic drive on more than one NDMP host. My initial goal is to remove 4 drives from my regular drive config share them between the 7 filers, each grabbing any drive as required. Baring this, an option would be to define a directly attached drive for each filer, utilizing more drives, then build storage unit groups where each filer would use their own storage unit first, failing to another 3rd-party host only if their drive is already too busy. So, can NDMP storage units be grouped? For those with v6.0, are your SSO sharing your drives with your filers and how's it working out? -M +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Mark Donaldson - Systems Administrator - 303-664-2040 Corporate Express - Broomfield, Colorado +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ We have enough youth. How about a fountain of smart? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Hard symbolic link restore issue...
There's an extensive discussion of the interaction of hard-links Netbackup in on pages 114-116 of the v5.x SAG (vol 1). Hard-links, as you're probably aware, can't cross filesystem boundaries so restoring to a mixed set of filesystems is bound to cause link issues. In a DR situation, I suspect your filesystems will be similar to your primary setup and these problems might not manifest. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher Jay Manders Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:15 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Hard symbolic link restore issue... We have a restore problem that Legato (the old backup solution) did not seem to have with our iPlanet IMAP mail store BACKGROUND: We have a huge IMAP datastore that resides on a SAN. There are multiple front-ends for folks to get their mail from, named 'imap1, imap2,...'. When someone wants their mail spool files restored, those go onto a separate system that does not have all of the same data with the same inodes. So all Hard Links are not restoring properly Here is a snippet of the error a standard restore gives: 09:41:59 (447272.005) /imap1-mailstore101/=user/c2/10/=+X+Xaa/98/69851.msg 09:41:59 (447272.005) Changed /imap1-mailstore101/=user/c2/10/=+X+Xaa/98/69851.msg to /store/restore/restore-XXaa//98/69851.msg 09:41:59 (447272.005) Could not link /store/restore/restore-XXaa/98/69851.msg - /imap1-mailstore101/=user/85/c2/=+Y+Ybb/09/937.msg. Errno = 18: Cross-device link QUESTION: Is there a way to back up and restore the data in the links for these one-off requests for a user's mail store restore that we get daily, while also keeping the knowledge of the link..so in a REAL disaster we can restore to a system with the proper inode structures with the symbolic links intact? TIA! --Chris ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NDMP question (drive sharing)
I've been crawling the NDMP manual for an hour but haven't found a black-and-white answer yet. I have a number of Netapp Filers and we're looking at implementing NDMP backups (we currently just backup NFS mounts). I know I cannot share a set of drives between my NDMP hosts my other media servers. We're OK with the idea of carving out a set of drives exclusively for NDMP backups (yes, I know about v6.0 - we're not quite ready to convert yet). What I can't figure out is if a single SAN-connected drive can be shared directly with more than one filer. I can see that if I do a 3rd-party NDMP backup, the a single NDMP host can be used to backup the others. I'd rather not load one filer or media server with the backups of another. I'd like the blocks to go as directly to media as possible. The drive setup seems to specify which NDMP host has direct access to the drive, I guess to do what I want, I'd have to define the same robotic drive on more than one NDMP host. My initial goal is to remove 4 drives from my regular drive config share them between the 7 filers, each grabbing any drive as required. Baring this, an option would be to define a directly attached drive for each filer, utilizing more drives, then build storage unit groups where each filer would use their own storage unit first, failing to another 3rd-party host only if their drive is already too busy. So, can NDMP storage units be grouped? For those with v6.0, are your SSO sharing your drives with your filers and how's it working out? -M +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Mark Donaldson - Systems Administrator - 303-664-2040 Corporate Express - Broomfield, Colorado +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ We have enough youth. How about a fountain of smart? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data
The trouble with the original question, and pointed out below, is that archive means different things to different people. If you're talking about moving rarely/never used data from disk to tape, then you're not going to be doing it with Netbackup - at least not automatically. Veritas does make a product for this based on HSM methods. It identifies files based on selection criteria (atime, mtime, etc) and then moves it to tape, leaving a stub behind in the filesystem that points to the tape image. If the file is accessesed, then the product runs off to tape and recovers the file automatically. This product is basically a plug-in to Netbackup. Archiving, as other people use the term, is just backing-up data to tape with a very long retention - this is just a backup from Netbackup's POV. Netbackup's archive, as in the bparchive command, is, IMO, most misnamed feature of Netbackup. The difference between a backup and an archive is whether the backed-up file(s) is deleted after backup. If the source file is deleted on successful backup, it's an archive. If not, it's a backup. Add the stupid -A flag to most of the restore/list commands to view these archives. From a tracking, image, tape, and every other point of view, it's a backup. Another more recently added feature of Netbackup is the ability to extract portions of the catalog from disk and move them to tape. This is more of a Catalog archive feature. For people having lots of rarely used, infinitely retained images, it's an option to keep the catalog size small. This is a catalog archive in some terminology - not the same as anything above. So - define archive carefully and pick your method. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wayne T Smith Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:06 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data When my users talk about archiving, they are talking about moving data away from where it is, but they still want and need it. NetBackup Archive is a joke to me. As many or most people don't backup or archive data to two locations at the same time, the NetBackup archived data tends to be in one place. I always tell anyone that will listen that if you have data in just one place, you have decided that it is not critical and can go away with out the sky falling. True archiving (to me, having a verified and protected copy of data) isn't easy. cheers, wayne Dave Bourgoin wrote, in part, on 12/5/2005 10:40 AM: Simon, Take a look at the NetBackup Backup, Archive, and Restore Getting Started Guide located here: http://support.veritas.com/docs/268199 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *WEAVER, Simon *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2005 9:45 AM *To:* 'Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu' *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data Guys Does NBU 5.x or later provide a facility to ARCHIVE OLD Data? For example, if we have data unused since 2003, is there a way I can tell NBU to move this data off to another drive or SAN? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data
Just remembered, the name of Veritas' HSM product is Storage Migrator. Available at a vendor near you! :) Another option might be a newer feature of Veritas Volume Manager. A volume can be composed of multiple plexes. These plexes can now be costed in some way. You could buy some big, slow, cheap disk for old files keep your popular files on expensive faster disk. Volume manager can now be set with rules to migrate seldom used files to the cheap disk keeping your more needed stuff on fast disk. It's supposed to be an auto-magic kind of tool. Everything stays on line but you don't need to keep expanding your expensive disk arrays. Beats spinning tape every time you want something from your archive. -M -Original Message- From: Simon Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data Hi, yes in answer to the question, I am referring to MOVING off old Archive Data - similar to a HSM Solution - Rather than have 1TB of Old Data and a few hundred GB of live Data, if the majority of unused data could be moved off with Netbackup, great! If not, looks like another solution has to be bought! Simon ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data
The behavior of the bparchive is to backup a fileset to tape and then, only if the entire backup was successful, the files in the fileset are deleted. SAG-1 p147 * User Archive Initiated by the user through the interface on the client and archives all files specifies. An archive is a special type of backup that first backs up the file and then deletes it from the local disk if the backup is successful. This frees local disk space while keeping a copy for future use (until the retention period expires). Users can start archives only during the times that you specify in the schedule Start Window tab. All this is not to be confused with Oracle archive-redo files, either. RMAN has its own abiltiy to delete archive-redo on successful backup based on a number of rules. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:09 AM To: Wayne T Smith; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data ? When I used to have archiving of oracle logs in NB it wouldn't delete the file until the 2nd time it was backed up to tape. Since we were also doing log shipping and backed up both from the primary and standby databases we typically had 4 copies of the logs at any given point. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne T Smith Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:06 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data When my users talk about archiving, they are talking about moving data away from where it is, but they still want and need it. NetBackup Archive is a joke to me. As many or most people don't backup or archive data to two locations at the same time, the NetBackup archived data tends to be in one place. I always tell anyone that will listen that if you have data in just one place, you have decided that it is not critical and can go away with out the sky falling. True archiving (to me, having a verified and protected copy of data) isn't easy. cheers, wayne Dave Bourgoin wrote, in part, on 12/5/2005 10:40 AM: Simon, Take a look at the NetBackup Backup, Archive, and Restore Getting Started Guide located here: http://support.veritas.com/docs/268199 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *WEAVER, Simon *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2005 9:45 AM *To:* 'Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu' *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data Guys Does NBU 5.x or later provide a facility to ARCHIVE OLD Data? For example, if we have data unused since 2003, is there a way I can tell NBU to move this data off to another drive or SAN? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data
Honestly I don't know. v6.0 was released Solaris HPUX only the release notes are dated August of this year it's been recently supported. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:31 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data I thought the Storage Migrator was End Of Life? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data Just remembered, the name of Veritas' HSM product is Storage Migrator. Available at a vendor near you! :) Another option might be a newer feature of Veritas Volume Manager. A volume can be composed of multiple plexes. These plexes can now be costed in some way. You could buy some big, slow, cheap disk for old files keep your popular files on expensive faster disk. Volume manager can now be set with rules to migrate seldom used files to the cheap disk keeping your more needed stuff on fast disk. It's supposed to be an auto-magic kind of tool. Everything stays on line but you don't need to keep expanding your expensive disk arrays. Beats spinning tape every time you want something from your archive. -M -Original Message- From: Simon Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] ARchiving Old Data Hi, yes in answer to the question, I am referring to MOVING off old Archive Data - similar to a HSM Solution - Rather than have 1TB of Old Data and a few hundred GB of live Data, if the majority of unused data could be moved off with Netbackup, great! If not, looks like another solution has to be bought! Simon ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6 daemon won't die
In general, a process that won't die with a -9 is hung on pending I/O. Pretty consistent with avrd's role. The only fix to a hung I/O process is to satisfy the I/O request or reboot. Sorry - unsatisfying answer. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brzozowski, Dwayne Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:49 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6 daemon won't die Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me. I have a NetBackup 6.0 Solaris 9 master. Shutting netbackup down with either /etc/init.d/netbackup stop or bp.kill_all will leave this process running: MM Processes root 605 1 0 Nov 30 ?0:00 avrd -v even a kill -9 will not make this process die. Does anyone know of another way to make this process stop, other than rebooting? thanks! -Dwayne Dwayne J. Brzozowski Department of Veterans Affairs Austin Automation Center Team Lead-Open Systems Support email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone:512-326-6728 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Command line log?
do this: jnbSA -l logfile -lc The commands will be in the logfile. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Baldini Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Command line log? Is there any king of command logging in NBU? In other words, is there a way to see the commands that are executed when actions are done on the GUI side? Thanks. Anthony Baldini ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question)
Anybody have a hint if this is going to be an ongoing problem with NB v6.x? The whole drive assigment part has been replaced, I think. -M -Original Message- From: Tim Hoke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question) What you refer to is a problem NetBackup runs into because of the limited kernel support for passthrough devices. Basically, for a given tape drive, NetBackup needs to be able to quickly map the data path (/dev/nst) to the passthrough path (/dev/sg) so that SCSI Reserve/Release (among other things) can happen properly. In order to do this, there's a make_scsi_dev command which will determine the mappings and create links in the appropriate /dev/st/ and /dev/sg/ dirs. In pre-2.6 kernels, this is the only way to do things and as such, since the make_scsi_dev also includes a scsi inquiry command, devices which are reserved won't be linked. In 2.6 kernels, there's native mapping which makes this processing unnecessary, but I'm not sure what it looks like if one of the devices is busy. Seems to me this is a limitation on any OS... If the drive's reserved to one host, another host can't inquire it and therefore can't determine what it is in order to configure it. HTH -Tim On Nov 30, 2005, at 5:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In our case, we could. However, if the tape drive was reserved by another server, then it wouldn't be properly discovered built into Netbackup's config stuff. The OS could see an unassigned one just fine. -M -Original Message- From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question) Actually the problem was at the OS level. It wouldn't see tape drives through the bridges properly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:25 PM To: Jeff Lightner; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question) The problems were mostly related to SSO - problems discovering devices managing scsi reserves placed by other media servers on shared tape drives. Those using one-drive-one-server architectures didn't seem to have complaints. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:00 PM To: Dan Dobbs; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question) I don't have answers to what you wrote but did want to caution you about using RH for your master. I've not been able to get RH EL AS 3 to properly recognize my SAN environment. From an earlier thread on this list it appears I wasn't the only one. Not sure if you're running SAN or direct SCSI but if the former thought it best to mention it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Dobbs Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:21 PM To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question) Greetings, list. Here's my situation. I have a HP-UX media/master server on 5.1 with a newer Neo SDLT bot and an ancient DLT4000 Surestore bot. We're going to be getting a shiny new Red Hat box soon to take over migrate backup services. I've just read the upgrade docs for 6.0, and I have to say that I'm a little overwhelmed. If I read it right, an upgrade to 6 requires all the clients to get the security software installed and upgraded to 6 as well before they can get backed up, something I'm not sure I can accomplish in a day. In short, I'm considering leaving my HP-UX box at 5.1, and building the new RH box on 6. My plan was to remove the Neo SDLT juke out of the 5.1 environment, plug it into my RH box,and import tapes there (as we've used less than 30 SDLT's, it shouldn't be a huge deal). This would allow me to do the icky client-side upgrades piecemeal, as I moved them to 6.0, they would then back up to the new box. Eventually, as all the clients moved over, I could then move the old jukebox and stop operations on the HP-UX box. The obvious problem is recovery; until I import every single tape, I wouldn't know what tapes had backups from the 'old' system. I guess the thrust of the matter is: 1) Is the upgrade of an in-place 5.1 server to 6 easier than it reads on paper? 1a) Do I really have to upgrade my clients to 6 before the server will talk to them? 2) If I was running 6 on the 'old' system, could I follow the previous advice, and
RE: [Veritas-bu] RE: Searching a command to deactivate all polici es
The bpconfig -mj doesn't work reliably. If you've got a different value set in the client database (bpclient -max_jobs) for a specific client, it takes precedence over the global max jobs value. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kemal Badur Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: Searching a command to deactivate all polici es [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to prevent the VERITAS NetBackup (tm) scheduler from starting backup jobs during a maintenance period http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/264787.htm /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpconfig -tries 0 Works every time and takes seconds to do. The only thing it doesn't stop is user backup jobs initiated from clients. I think if you set the number of maximum jobs per client to 0 by bpconfig -mj 0 you also prevent client-initiated jobs from running - we never allowed user backups on our site, so I can't really say for sure. This is the cleanest way I know of to prevent any backup activity, but it is probably not what Asiye was looking for. HTH Kemal ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] tapes
You need to have the associated policy set for allow multiple streams and enough streams to spread across your tape drives. Turn the mpx/drive setting down on the schedule if necesary to limit the number of streams per drive. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Atif Munir Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:02 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] tapes how can i make my netbackup 5.1 to use all the 3 drives for a certian backupits using only 1 for large backups ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions
Title: Message All these problems makes me think you'd be good to check your driver settings for these tape drives. Make sure, if nothing else, that you have variable blocks enabled. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:31 AMTo: 'Dean'Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions Dean They are failing due to (what veritas say) is bad media NBU Activity Monitor shows status 191 ! Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Dean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 November 2005 08:21To: WEAVER, SimonCc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require OpinionsI would not mess with the production "working" master server. Wiping out your active catalog on purpose and relying on bprecover to get it back sounds ... risky. Not that I've ever seen bprecover fail, but I believe in NOT tempting fate. Is it possible to have a 'spare' server sitting around, with the same OS and hostname as the production master, but not registered in your DNS, or not normally connected to the LAN at all? bprecover your pre-problems catalog to it and just let it sit there until it's needed. It wouldn't need to be too powerful. Then if a restore is required, update /etc/hosts on the client (or the Windows equivelant) to point to your "standby" master server, do the restore, then undo the /etc/hosts change. I've seen this done with an old Ultra 5, and even on a VMware guest machine.Of course, you'd also need a tape drive connected to this "standby" master if/when you need it for a restore.But apart from that, why are the imports failing? Bad tapes? If that's the case, having a good catalog is not necesarily going to help. Remember, with import you have to complete phase 1 import of all tapes in a connected set before beginning pase 2.Good luck,Dean On 11/30/05, WEAVER, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone A week and a bit, I mentioned that all my tapes had expired through no fault of my own. Veritas has not been able to re-produce this and under their guidance, carried on running as I am, but having to import tapes BACK into Netbackup! This is not going well! The majority of imports are failing, and I am becoming increasingly concerned about the entire system, and much more importantly, the previous backups! So, thinking about the situation, I wanted to know if this theory is possible. I still have a Catalogue Backup on a tape going back to 16th November 2005 - prior to the problems. Rather than importing the tapes like I am doing, if I need to do a restore from a Tape say that was run in September 05, could I revert the system BACK to how it was prior to the problems I experienced. This Catalogue tape is currently suspended, and I have told NBU not to use this tape as a Catalogue Backup (presently using 1 tape and 1 drive). Once the restore is done, I could use BPRECOVER to revert the system BACK to how it is now (ie: todays date). I am sure there is going to be a con here (for example, recovering back to the 16th will mean the Netbackup Database will now wonder why there are new tapes in the Robot and probably send them to scratch!! I really am looking for some alternatives options here and open to some real help! Veritas have told me its the media thats the problem! This is not looking good :( Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is for the intended addressee only.If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it.Please notify the sender by return email.The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited.Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation.EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England This email is for the intended addressee only.If you have received it in error then
RE: [Veritas-bu] RMAN browse/ Restore
Let me fix this: So yes you can see the *filenames*, but no it's not very useful. ... Only the RMAN utility can *use* the data backed-up up via the RMAN scripts. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] RMAN browse/ Restore The only thing you can look at is the backup piece name. The backup piece is the container for the blocks backed-up via RMAN. So yes you can see the blocks, but no it's not very useful. Only the RMAN utility can the data backed-up up via the RMAN scripts. HTH - M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aarti Shenoy Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:34 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] RMAN browse/ Restore Hi Everyone, I have a trivial question. Is it possible to restore Oracle database backup taken using RMAN Scripts (from NetBackup) ? Is it possible to browse the backedup data ? In case of normal backup, in the BAR window if one specifies client and date range, we get to view all the files that were backed up during the specified window. Does the same functionality works with Oracle database. Please note that I am not using BLI. Its raw data that is being backed up using RMAN from NBU 5.1 Thanks, Aarti Shenoy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Veritas News Group Emails
Go here: ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karen Grider Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 6:57 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Veritas News Group Emails How do I get off this mailing list? I have sent emails to someone named doug but am still getting messages. Any help would be appreciated Thanks Karen Grider Sr. Business Systems Analyst 901-434-9193 Backup status link http://hosting.ebs.fedex.com click backup info in menu to left click backup report ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU 5.1
Title: Message What process to you use to eject your tapes? -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Simon WeaverSent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:44 AMTo: De Pedro, Ignacio; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU 5.1 Guys Ok to confirm. The tape labels are in the SCRATCH pool - quite how they got in there is a mystery! All I done, was ejected tapes from volume pool, replaced these tapes with new tapes and/or used media expired and placed them in the Scratch ready for this weekends backups! Still waiting on Veritas to contact me !!! As the reports module shows nothing for the media, I can only assume that somehow, Vol Manager has decided to expire these tapes (that had monthly backups, weekly full and diff backups!) Quite how is a mystery! I also went to find my Catalogue Backup tape, and now Netbackup does NOT see it in there! (although there is an entry in the Netbackup volume pool). I have no idea now what is going on!!! I am getting very desperate now :((( Simon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of De Pedro, IgnacioSent: 21 November 2005 15:16To: Simon.WeaverCc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU 5.1 The best is going to bpdbm log to see what happens with the Images on Medias, without see the log is very difficult to explain what happens... And for the tapes it´s easy, if you have it out of the robot, you can import it... Nacho De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de [EMAIL PROTECTED]Enviado el: lunes, 21 de noviembre de 2005 15:39Para: WEAVER, SimonCC: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduAsunto: Re: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU 5.1 Simon I have had something like this happen, dont remember exctly what happened , or how i fixed it, Re inventory your robot first, might take a while, but it will at least bring your database up to date with whats in there. this will aslo refresh everything in the database, you might get that list back that way. Lemme know what happens, Jeremy Monday, November 21, 2005 9:34 AMTo: "'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'" veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.educc: From: "WEAVER, Simon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU 5.1 I am in a little shock, so hoping someone can help explain this mystery! I ejected approx 30 tapes from NBU 5.1 MP2 on 2003 Server. The tapes were from varied volume pools. The eject process completed successfully, I stored the tapes in a safe, and replaced them with either new tapes or expired Media Tapes. Weekend came and backups ran - some still going, but its working! I just decided to see what was in the scratch pool, and by luke I happened to check some of the volume pools where I removed Media from them on Friday, only to discover there is no record of the tapes. By record I mean, the Volume Pool would show an entry for the tape, even though its not in the robot. Decided to check the other pools, and to my horror, there are no entries for these tapes!!! Starting to worry now, because I wonder what on earth has happened. I have noticed the SCRATCH pool is showing ALOT of Media ID's!!! Clearly not in the robot, but i cannot understand what has happened! Can anyone shed any light or help? Simon This email is for the intended addressee only.If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it.Please notify the sender by return email.The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited.Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation.EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England
RE: [Veritas-bu] Tape Usage
Can you be more detailed? Are you looking for number of mounts? Percent full? -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of marco chiapusso Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:11 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Tape Usage Hi Guys, does anyone created a script that could help me to know which is the % of usage of every single media in my robot? My master server it's on Microsoft Windows 2003. txt a lot ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Backups to disk, your opinion
Title: Backups to disk, your opinion The reason I use disk is its availibility. My disk storage units simply have better uptime over my library. For things like the hourlyfrequent sweeps of oracle redo logs, having disk STU allows me to shutdown the library for lengthy maintenance. For lots of small backups, the percentage of time spent mechanically manipulating tapes is large compared to the data transfer side. Disk STU's avoid this, too. In short,for what I was doing, my backups are faster more reliable. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hindle, GregSent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 1:36 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Backups to disk, your opinion Nbu 5.0 mp3 Solaris We are looking into backing up to disk instead of tape. We have looked at the EMC CDL solution. I am curious to know what other solutions people are using and their opinions on what they use. Greg This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP2
RE: [Veritas-bu] VMD Buffer Overflow patch
Title: Message Master/Media servers should be the only servers with a vmd daemon so you're safe just doing them. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Williams, Kristopher LSent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:10 PMTo: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] VMD Buffer Overflow patch I'm sure everyone is aware of the latest security patch release for NB 5.0 and 5.1. Has anyone figured out yet if both clients and master/media servers need to patched? For the sake of long nights of patching, I certainly hope it's just the master/media servers! Thanks guys, Kris
RE: [Veritas-bu] Kbytes on Media seems to be graten than allowabl e size for this kind of media
Netbackup reports the amount of data stored on the tape. Most tape drives, and apparently yours, compress the data to be written so 100k of data may only take 50k of actual tape space. Apparently, some of your data is highly compressible. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Asiye Yigit Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:54 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Kbytes on Media seems to be graten than allowable size for this kind of media Hi Gurus, When I look at the media list report, There is a media that its size is 850 000 000Kb. There is also a media its size is 200 000 000Kb. There is also a media its size is 400 000 000Kb. NetBackup says for All these medias Full independent on the size they have (I think like that! What is the criteria for NB to tell that!). What is the meaning of that? Why some medias are full although the size Is smaller. I mean the media is full even 200 000 000 Kb in size; The other is still accepting the data even bigger than 200 000 000 Kb in size. The other thing is that the size for this kind of media is 200/400GB. I think there is something I miss. Please clear my mind! I would appreciate If you could suggest/tell something about that! Regards, Asiye ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Need success script
Title: Need success script The "past month" may be the tricky thing. How much job history are you keeping? grep KEEP_JOBS /usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf Default is only 3 days. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hindle, GregSent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:21 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Need success script Nbu 5.0 mp4 Solaris 9 Hello, I am looking for a script that can give me the % success and failures for the past month. Does anyone have a script like this that would not mind sharing? Thanks! GregThis e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP1
[Veritas-bu] RE: Anybody have any info on the STREAMS file config?
Bueller? Bueller? Any of you Symantec folks around? -M -Original Message- From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:41 AM To: Veritasbu (E-mail) Subject: Anybody have any info on the STREAMS file config? At first I thought the /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/client/STREAMS file contained the dates of the last backup per policy schedule: 1 1130406661 P_Unix_FS Monthly 0,0,1987200 0 0 /vol/d07 2 1130406662 P_Unix_FS Monthly 0,0,1987200 0 0 /vol/d06 3 1130406664 P_Unix_FS Monthly 0,0,1987200 0 0 /vol/vol0 1 1131015073 P_Unix_FS Cumu 4,0,172800 0 0 /vol/d07 2 1131015256 P_Unix_FS Cumu 4,0,172800 0 0 /vol/d06 3 1131015357 P_Unix_FS Cumu 4,0,172800 0 0 /vol/vol0 1 1131447191 P_Unix_FS Incr 1,0,86400 0 0 /vol/d07 2 1131447192 P_Unix_FS Incr 1,0,86400 0 0 /vol/d06 3 1131447193 P_Unix_FS Incr 1,0,86400 0 0 /vol/vol0 I was thinking the second column was the date of the last backup. I then found some weekly backups that seemed to fail one week succeed the next week that had the first attempt's time in them and not the successful second attempt's time. I started thinking that this was the date of the previous successful backup or previous intended backup - perhaps to keep backups from doing what I call schedule creep, ie, slowly creeping around the calendar as their failures push the next schedule backup attempt out farther. It's hard to explain... This is all leading to trying to parse out filesystems/streams that have failed in more than X-many frequency periods (field 7 above) to try to come up with an alert mechanism for fileystems in danger for multistream backups. -M +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Mark Donaldson - Systems Administrator - 303-664-2040 Corporate Express - Broomfield, Colorado +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Blah, Blah, Blah. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script
I just download the v6.0 SAG and it describes two new scripts:
parent_start_notify parent_end_notify.
Not surprisingly these are run when a parent job starts and completes.
I was fully aware of parent jobs in the inline-tape-copy sense, each tape
to be written spawns a job. Additionally a parent job is started to monitor
each stream of the ITC.
For a simpler multi-stream backup, I started a multi-stream backup for a
single client in my v5.1 environment and the first started image seems to be
designated as a parent job, the other streams listed the jobid of the first
as their parent job.
This implies that the parent_start_notify is the holy-grail of start jobs
we've been looking for - first to start, easily identified.
The parent_end_notify is the question - in my case, my parent job ended
before my final image of the multi-stream backup. The PID that was related
to the bpsched process for it died too.
If the parent_end_notify would run at this point, as implied by the
documentation, then it would be running prematurely.
Can somebody with a v6.0 installation test this?
-M
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There's the very slight chance of the race condition but it's really slim.
Since it appends only a single line to a file, the two streams would
literally have both end at near the same time.
The normal order would be:
write
check (fail)
write
check (succeed)
The race condition would have to be:
write
write
check (succeed)
check (succeed)
And that's really unlikely.
If you're worried, and since I wrote the stream number to the count-file,
then you could check which stream wrote to the file last:
echo $STREAM_NUMBER $COUNTILFE
if [ `wc -l $COUNTFILE|awk '{print $1}' -eq $STREAM_COUNT -a \
`tail -1 $COUNTFILE` -eq $STREAM_NUBMER ]
then
#count is correct and this stream wrote the last line
rm $COUNTFILE
## Last stream processing
fi
Even more paranoia, you could use a monolithic command like mkdir to create
a lockfile that would only allow one stream to exit at the same time.
HTH - M
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Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:03 PM
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script
wouldn't there be a chance that there might be race condition issues?
Suppose that two processes can modify the file at the same time and that
could corrupt the countfile.
Before testing NBU6 in the future we will just use the old flat file backup
(cron jobs dump the db to flat files).
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script
In unix, I do this with what I call a count file.
As each stream ends, it writes appends a line to a common file. The script
then checks the number of lines in the file and compares it against the
STREAM_COUNT variable. If they match then the end-job is run the count
file removed.
Beats me how to do this in MS Batch files but here's my script's logic:
echo $STREAM_NUMBER /tmp/countfile
if [ `wc -l /tmp/countfile | awk '{print $1}'` -eq $STREAM_COUNT ]
then
echo Last stream
rm /tmp/countfile
run end-of-job-stuff
fi
There's some additional logic in the bpstart_notify script to check for an
old countfile that's gotten lost because a previous stream ended without
running it bpend_notify script. This, of course, may lead to the end-of-job
startup stuff not running. Usually, for me, that's not an issue.
-M
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Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:37 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script
Hi gurus,
We have a file system backup. It is being backuped as multiple data
stream.
We are backing up offline sql backup. So, in the bpend_notify script,
There is start command to start sql after finishing backup.
As there are multiple data stream, after completion of each data stream,
Nb run bpend_notify script. We have to instruct the script,
There are multiple data stream. In fact, in the admin guide,
We have found some variables to support multiple data stream:
STREAM_NUMBER
STREAM_COUNT
However, I do not know how can I use these variables in my bpend_notify
script.
Does Set STREAM_NUMBER=1 work? I am not sure. How can I tell the
script,
This backup is being backed up via multiple data stream. Please wait?
Is there any idea about that?
RE: [Veritas-bu] Failed job notifications
It's a shell script so the , , = don't work as numeric comparitors. It uses the old Fortran formats: -gt is greater than -lt is less than -ge is greater than or equal -le is less than or equal -eq is equal to If you want to compare two strings, the the = sign is used. so, your comparison should be changed to: if [ $5 -gt 1 ] then cat . fi You might try something like this as more readable and uses less I/O to your hard drive (the EOF at the bottom must start in column 1): if [ $5 -gt 1 ] then catEOF|mail -s big subject line [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Date: `date` -- CLIENT: $1 POLICY: $2 SCHEDULE: $3 SCHEDULE TYPE: $4 STATUS: $5 STREAM: $6 ERROR: $5 `/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bperror -S $5` EOF fi This could be your entire backup_exit_notify file and it should work OK. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Major, Rusty Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:46 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Failed job notifications I'm trying to get notifications on job failures ONLY and have added the following to backup_exit_notify: if [ $5 1 ] then cat $OUTF | mail -s Backup of $1, Policy $2, Schedule $3 exited EC $5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] fi What I'm getting is an email for EVERY job in the following format: Thu Nov 10 10:28:42 EST 2005 - Thu Nov 10 10:28:42 EST 2005 CLIENT: clientname Thu Nov 10 10:28:42 EST 2005 POLICY: policyname Thu Nov 10 10:28:43 EST 2005 SCHEDULE: Incremental Thu Nov 10 10:28:43 EST 2005 SCHEDULE TYPE: INCR Thu Nov 10 10:28:43 EST 2005 STATUS: 0 Thu Nov 10 10:28:43 EST 2005 STREAM: 0 Thu Nov 10 10:28:43 EST 2005 - I have received a few with the subject line, but the large majority do not have it. I will admit I am not a perl guru (or unix for that matter) and copied this from an older entry in the archives. I would appreciate any help! Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP Data Assurance Engineer (281) 584-4693 VeriCenter, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] RE: Anybody have any info on the STREAMS file co nfig?
As an update, I have noticed that at least one of my servers hasn't updated the timestamp for the / path in this file for nearly 30 days, but bpimagelist shows that I've been successfully backing up every day. This is on a simple top-down policy with a single / as the include list and cross mountpoints checked. -M -Original Message- Bueller? Bueller? Any of you Symantec folks around? -M -Original Message- From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:41 AM To: Veritasbu (E-mail) Subject: Anybody have any info on the STREAMS file config? At first I thought the /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/client/STREAMS file contained the dates of the last backup per policy schedule: 1 1130406661 P_Unix_FS Monthly 0,0,1987200 0 0 /vol/d07 2 1130406662 P_Unix_FS Monthly 0,0,1987200 0 0 /vol/d06 3 1130406664 P_Unix_FS Monthly 0,0,1987200 0 0 /vol/vol0 1 1131015073 P_Unix_FS Cumu 4,0,172800 0 0 /vol/d07 2 1131015256 P_Unix_FS Cumu 4,0,172800 0 0 /vol/d06 3 1131015357 P_Unix_FS Cumu 4,0,172800 0 0 /vol/vol0 1 1131447191 P_Unix_FS Incr 1,0,86400 0 0 /vol/d07 2 1131447192 P_Unix_FS Incr 1,0,86400 0 0 /vol/d06 3 1131447193 P_Unix_FS Incr 1,0,86400 0 0 /vol/vol0 I was thinking the second column was the date of the last backup. I then found some weekly backups that seemed to fail one week succeed the next week that had the first attempt's time in them and not the successful second attempt's time. I started thinking that this was the date of the previous successful backup or previous intended backup - perhaps to keep backups from doing what I call schedule creep, ie, slowly creeping around the calendar as their failures push the next schedule backup attempt out farther. It's hard to explain... This is all leading to trying to parse out filesystems/streams that have failed in more than X-many frequency periods (field 7 above) to try to come up with an alert mechanism for fileystems in danger for multistream backups. -M +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Mark Donaldson - Systems Administrator - 303-664-2040 Corporate Express - Broomfield, Colorado +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Blah, Blah, Blah. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script
As I think about this, you need something that compensates if this is a
single-streamed job, STREAM_COUNT, if I recall correctly, is set to 0 if
allow-multiple-streams is not set.
if [ $STREAM_COUNT -gt 0 ]
then
echo $STREAM_NUMBER /tmp/countfile
if [ `wc -l /tmp/countfile | awk '{print $1}'` -ge $STREAM_COUNT ]
then
echo Last stream
rm /tmp/countfile
run end-of-job-stuff
fi
else
run end-of-job-stuff
fi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script
In unix, I do this with what I call a count file.
As each stream ends, it writes appends a line to a common file. The script
then checks the number of lines in the file and compares it against the
STREAM_COUNT variable. If they match then the end-job is run the count
file removed.
Beats me how to do this in MS Batch files but here's my script's logic:
echo $STREAM_NUMBER /tmp/countfile
if [ `wc -l /tmp/countfile | awk '{print $1}'` -eq $STREAM_COUNT ]
then
echo Last stream
rm /tmp/countfile
run end-of-job-stuff
fi
There's some additional logic in the bpstart_notify script to check for an
old countfile that's gotten lost because a previous stream ended without
running it bpend_notify script. This, of course, may lead to the end-of-job
startup stuff not running. Usually, for me, that's not an issue.
-M
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Asiye Yigit
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:37 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script
Hi gurus,
We have a file system backup. It is being backuped as multiple data
stream.
We are backing up offline sql backup. So, in the bpend_notify script,
There is start command to start sql after finishing backup.
As there are multiple data stream, after completion of each data stream,
Nb run bpend_notify script. We have to instruct the script,
There are multiple data stream. In fact, in the admin guide,
We have found some variables to support multiple data stream:
STREAM_NUMBER
STREAM_COUNT
However, I do not know how can I use these variables in my bpend_notify
script.
Does Set STREAM_NUMBER=1 work? I am not sure. How can I tell the
script,
This backup is being backed up via multiple data stream. Please wait?
Is there any idea about that? I would appreciate if you could help me.
Regards,
Asiye
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RE: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 MP1 Speculation
NB has done a pretty good job of maintaining their previously announced intentions to do quarterly releases for NB MPs. If they hold this pattern, it ought to be available 1Q07. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:58 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 MP1 SpeculationAnyone care to speculate when it MP1 will be availible for 6.0? I don't think we will see it this year.
RE: [Veritas-bu] What criteria is used to determine a incremental ??
It uses mtime by default: from the SAG for v5.1 pp 152-153: When NetBackup reads the data for a file that is included in a backup, it does not affect the file modification time, but does affect the access time of the file. For this reason, NetBackup saves the atime and mtime of the file prior to reading the file, and (by default) resets the atime and mtime using the utime(2) system call. By doing it this way, NetBackup does not cause problems for storage migration products or administrator scripts that are utilizing file access times (atime) as criteria for their operations. While this benefit is obvious, a side effect is that it does update the ctime of the file. As an option to a NetBackup configuration, customers can choose to have NetBackup not reset the access time of the file after it reads a file. Additionally, customers can choose to have NetBackup use the ctime of the file, in addition to the mtime, when determining what files to back up in an incremental. Normally, these two options are used together, but there may be sites which want to use one without the other. By default, NetBackup uses only the mtime of the file to determine what files and directories to back up. When a file is moved from one location to another, the ctime of the file changes, but the mtime remains unchanged. If NetBackup is only using the file modification time (mtime) to determine files due to be backed up during an incremental backup, it will not detect these moved files. For sites where this is an issue, the ctime should also be used (if possible) to determine files due to be included in an incremental backup, using the bp.conf attributes USE_CTIME_FOR_INCREMENTALS and DO_NOT_RESET_FILE_ACCESS_TIME. When a directory is moved from one location to another, the ctime of the directory changes, but the mtime remains unchanged. Neither the mtime nor the ctime are changed for the files or directories within the moved directory. Using file timestamps, there is no reliable method for determining that files within a moved directory need to be included in an incremental backup. In either case, these moved files and directories are included in subsequent full backups. -Original Message- From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:44 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] What criteria is used to determine a incremental ?? I'll see if I can verify but I think this is right. I don't think NB is sensitive to simple permissions/ownership changes. Time to play with my test policy. -M -Original Message- From: Sander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] What criteria is used to determine a incremental ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (ao): For Unix, it's by timestamp (mtime value on the inode). Should this not be ctime? In my experience (Linux) mtime only changes on a change of the file (eg, data), while ctime also changes when the rights or owner change. Kind regards, Sander Hollaar -- Humilis IT Services and Solutions http://www.humilis.net ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] multiple tape format in one library??????
Title: Message Yes. You're on the right idea, you need multple storage units defined for each media server. Each storage unit has a different media type. The choice of client to drive is done by assigning the LTO-2 STU to the policy that services your slow clients and the LTO-3 STU to the policy that services your fast clients (in other words, break your clients into multiple policies). -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul KeatingSent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:52 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] multiple tape format in one library?? Is anyone using multiple tape/tape drive formats in one library with a single media server? for example: one server, one library some LTO2 drives,some LTO3 drives. how do you manage it? can't (from what I can tell) assign each type of drive to a different storage unit (without a second media server). Do you have both types of tapes, and let NBU assign jobs and tapes to drives as it pleases? I want to avoid my LTO2 tapes being loaded into LTO3 drives and being written so that they can no longer be used in an LTO2 drive. Also, I'd like to send slower (100mb/s) clients to LTO2 drives, and GigE clients to LTO3, etc. best way I can see to do that is to add another library for the LTO3 drives, so that there's a separate storage units with just those drives, OR add a second media server, and configure zones to allow each media server to only see one type of drive. Paul
