Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-10 Thread Bryan Bahnmiller
Ed, Rusty,

   Have you noticed if the load on the DNS servers has gone down? I 
remember building an HPUX master server with thousands of clients. Our 
master server hammered the DNS server. We ended up configuring a DNS 
caching server on our own master. It didn't add a lot to the load on the 
master, and it severely reduced the network traffic to the DNS server and 
almost eliminated the load on the DNS server.

   I haven't run with 7.x yet and since we are in process of building out 
a 7.x Linux master server I was kind of curious to see if this was still 
an issue with 7.

  Thanks,
  Bryan




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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote:
If this is version 7.0.1, there is a hostname caching 'feature' now in 
NetBackup (Which I do NOT like, Symantec!!!). It caches the IP for each 
host configured in NBU and sometimes this can result in the incorrect IP 
being tied to the hostname. The default TTL for this cached data is one 
hour, but you can refresh it by running the following command on the 
Master/Media server(s) and/or clients: 

bpclntcmd -clear_host_cache 

So, you could see that even though the name resolution may be fixed in DNS 
or hosts, NBU may still have it cached. I've heard there's a way to reduce 
the time this is refreshed, but I don't remember where it's at. 

The DNS caching behavior is controlled by the 2nd parameter of the
master server's VNET_OPTIONS in bp.conf; units are in seconds.  The
default in 7.0.1 is 1 hour, but we've reduced this to 5 min in our
environment without ill effect:

VNET_OPTIONS = 120 300 200 40 3 1 30 5 1793 32 0 0
 
   .../Ed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-10 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Bryan Bahnmiller bbahnmil...@dtcc.comwrote:

 Ed, Rusty,

Have you noticed if the load on the DNS servers has gone down? I
 remember building an HPUX master server with thousands of clients. Our
 master server hammered the DNS server. We ended up configuring a DNS caching
 server on our own master. It didn't add a lot to the load on the master, and
 it severely reduced the network traffic to the DNS server and almost
 eliminated the load on the DNS server.


We have never seen an issue with high DNS server utilization.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-10 Thread Jim VandeVegt
Solaris, Windows,  Linux all do some variant of nscd - Name Services Caching 
Daemon - if you haven't explicitly disabled it for some reason. AIX just added 
it in OS version 6.1. AIX = 5.3 and HPUX, as you say, you had to setup a 
caching, fowarding DNS server local on the system to achieve equivalent 
functionality.
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Ed, Rusty,

   Have you noticed if the load on the DNS servers has gone down? I remember 
building an HPUX master server with thousands of clients. Our master server 
hammered the DNS server. We ended up configuring a DNS caching server on our 
own master. It didn't add a lot to the load on the master, and it severely 
reduced the network traffic to the DNS server and almost eliminated the load on 
the DNS server.

   I haven't run with 7.x yet and since we are in process of building out a 7.x 
Linux master server I was kind of curious to see if this was still an issue 
with 7.

  Thanks,
  Bryan



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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM, 
rusty.ma...@sungard.commailto:rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote:
If this is version 7.0.1, there is a hostname caching 'feature' now in 
NetBackup (Which I do NOT like, Symantec!!!). It caches the IP for each host 
configured in NBU and sometimes this can result in the incorrect IP being tied 
to the hostname. The default TTL for this cached data is one hour, but you can 
refresh it by running the following command on the Master/Media server(s) 
and/or clients:

bpclntcmd -clear_host_cache

So, you could see that even though the name resolution may be fixed in DNS or 
hosts, NBU may still have it cached. I've heard there's a way to reduce the 
time this is refreshed, but I don't remember where it's at.

The DNS caching behavior is controlled by the 2nd parameter of the
master server's VNET_OPTIONS in bp.conf; units are in seconds.  The
default in 7.0.1 is 1 hour, but we've reduced this to 5 min in our
environment without ill effect:

VNET_OPTIONS = 120 300 200 40 3 1 30 5 1793 32 0 0

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[Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-09 Thread Heathe Yeakley
I'm at a DR exercise. I've installed, patched, configured NBU and
successfully imported a catalog. I'm in Backup, Archive Restore and
using the Directory Structure pane to drill down to the files I want
to restore. I'm restoring files to an alternate server than the one
where the original files were taken from. I've set the parameters for
source and destination and everything looks good. When I pull up my
list of available backups, the list takes like 5 minutes to pull up. I
select the policy I want to restore from and it takes like 5 minutes
to put the directory tree in the Directory Structure pane. I select
the icon next to root to expand root, and it takes like 5 minutes to
show me the next layer.

You get the idea. On my master server back home, this process takes
seconds. Boom, boom, boom. I drill down select my file and go.

Here I expand root, then 5 minutes later I expand /dirA, then 5
minutes later I expand /dirA/dirB...

I've been digging around for about 30 minutes to see if there's some
type of a timeout setting or something that's causing this.

Have any of you seen this before?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-09 Thread Infantino, Joseph
What is the OS of the Master and Media server(s)?
Is DNS working flawlessly?

Thank you, 

Joseph A. Infantino II
BackUp/Recovery Administrator
HARRIS IT Services 
Assured Infrastructure Management 
Office: 321-724-3011 | Fax: 321-724-3392
Email: joseph.infant...@harris.com

  


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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:24 PM
To: NetBackup Mailing List
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

I'm at a DR exercise. I've installed, patched, configured NBU and
successfully imported a catalog. I'm in Backup, Archive Restore and
using the Directory Structure pane to drill down to the files I want
to restore. I'm restoring files to an alternate server than the one
where the original files were taken from. I've set the parameters for
source and destination and everything looks good. When I pull up my
list of available backups, the list takes like 5 minutes to pull up. I
select the policy I want to restore from and it takes like 5 minutes
to put the directory tree in the Directory Structure pane. I select
the icon next to root to expand root, and it takes like 5 minutes to
show me the next layer.

You get the idea. On my master server back home, this process takes
seconds. Boom, boom, boom. I drill down select my file and go.

Here I expand root, then 5 minutes later I expand /dirA, then 5
minutes later I expand /dirA/dirB...

I've been digging around for about 30 minutes to see if there's some
type of a timeout setting or something that's causing this.

Have any of you seen this before?

- Heathe Kyle Yeakley
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-09 Thread Heathe Yeakley
My apologies, I should have added that.

In my live environment, I have two servers:
ziggurat - Master/Media RHEL4
obelisk - media RHEL4

For DNS I'm just relying on the /etc/hosts file as I'm only trying
to recover 5 systems. The source system that I'm restoring from is not
here, not have we built a replica on it. I'm trying to browse files
that were backed up on server-A in my live environment and restore
them to server-B here in the DR environment.

I can browse down the directory tree, it just takes 20 minutes to do
what I can do in 10 seconds in prod. I'm assuming it's trying to call
out the server-A. I don't see why it should have to do that since the
metadata for the restore files should be in the catalog here on my
master server.

-Thanks.

- HKY
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Infantino, Joseph jinfa...@harris.com wrote:
 What is the OS of the Master and Media server(s)?
 Is DNS working flawlessly?

 Thank you,

 Joseph A. Infantino II
 BackUp/Recovery Administrator
 HARRIS IT Services
 Assured Infrastructure Management
 Office: 321-724-3011 | Fax: 321-724-3392
 Email: joseph.infant...@harris.com




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 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley
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 To: NetBackup Mailing List
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

 I'm at a DR exercise. I've installed, patched, configured NBU and
 successfully imported a catalog. I'm in Backup, Archive Restore and
 using the Directory Structure pane to drill down to the files I want
 to restore. I'm restoring files to an alternate server than the one
 where the original files were taken from. I've set the parameters for
 source and destination and everything looks good. When I pull up my
 list of available backups, the list takes like 5 minutes to pull up. I
 select the policy I want to restore from and it takes like 5 minutes
 to put the directory tree in the Directory Structure pane. I select
 the icon next to root to expand root, and it takes like 5 minutes to
 show me the next layer.

 You get the idea. On my master server back home, this process takes
 seconds. Boom, boom, boom. I drill down select my file and go.

 Here I expand root, then 5 minutes later I expand /dirA, then 5
 minutes later I expand /dirA/dirB...

 I've been digging around for about 30 minutes to see if there's some
 type of a timeout setting or something that's causing this.

 Have any of you seen this before?

 - Heathe Kyle Yeakley
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-09 Thread Jim VandeVegt
Hmm ... relying on could be a problem. Are the systems configured to use DNS 
first ... a DNS that is not there? Every host name resolve has to wait while a 
DNS request or two (secondaries) times out? If DNS server is not available, 
remove resolv.conf and check the hosts: line of /etc/nsswitch.conf.

Long shot, but duplex mismatches on the master or GUI host network can cause 
big slow downs.

Take the network and GUI out of the equation by using the command line on the 
master.

Get a file listing with a command line this:
bplist -B -C client -unix_files -l -t 0 -R -s 01/01/2011 -e 02/09/2011 /
-t 0 is backup type. 0 is Standard. 13 is Windows-NT.
-A instead of -B if you want the file list from archives rather than backups.
The man page for bplist will fill in more details if needed.
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[veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 15:58
To: Infantino, Joseph
Cc: NetBackup Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR   
server

My apologies, I should have added that.

In my live environment, I have two servers:
ziggurat - Master/Media RHEL4
obelisk - media RHEL4

For DNS I'm just relying on the /etc/hosts file as I'm only trying
to recover 5 systems. The source system that I'm restoring from is not
here, not have we built a replica on it. I'm trying to browse files
that were backed up on server-A in my live environment and restore
them to server-B here in the DR environment.

I can browse down the directory tree, it just takes 20 minutes to do
what I can do in 10 seconds in prod. I'm assuming it's trying to call
out the server-A. I don't see why it should have to do that since the
metadata for the restore files should be in the catalog here on my
master server.

-Thanks.

- HKY
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Infantino, Joseph jinfa...@harris.com wrote:
 What is the OS of the Master and Media server(s)?
 Is DNS working flawlessly?

 Thank you,

 Joseph A. Infantino II
 BackUp/Recovery Administrator
 HARRIS IT Services
 Assured Infrastructure Management
 Office: 321-724-3011 | Fax: 321-724-3392
 Email: joseph.infant...@harris.com




 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley
 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:24 PM
 To: NetBackup Mailing List
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

 I'm at a DR exercise. I've installed, patched, configured NBU and
 successfully imported a catalog. I'm in Backup, Archive Restore and
 using the Directory Structure pane to drill down to the files I want
 to restore. I'm restoring files to an alternate server than the one
 where the original files were taken from. I've set the parameters for
 source and destination and everything looks good. When I pull up my
 list of available backups, the list takes like 5 minutes to pull up. I
 select the policy I want to restore from and it takes like 5 minutes
 to put the directory tree in the Directory Structure pane. I select
 the icon next to root to expand root, and it takes like 5 minutes to
 show me the next layer.

 You get the idea. On my master server back home, this process takes
 seconds. Boom, boom, boom. I drill down select my file and go.

 Here I expand root, then 5 minutes later I expand /dirA, then 5
 minutes later I expand /dirA/dirB...

 I've been digging around for about 30 minutes to see if there's some
 type of a timeout setting or something that's causing this.

 Have any of you seen this before?

 - Heathe Kyle Yeakley
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-09 Thread Rusty.Major
It also sounds like a name resolution problem.
You could put an entry for Server-A pointing to the recovery server's IP 
address in hosts. Probably would be easier to just fix the name resolution 
issue as when you go to the next server you will most likely have the same 
problem. Good luck!

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Hmm ... relying on could be a problem. Are the systems configured to use 
DNS first ... a DNS that is not there? Every host name resolve has to wait 
while a DNS request or two (secondaries) times out? If DNS server is not 
available, remove resolv.conf and check the hosts: line of 
/etc/nsswitch.conf.

Long shot, but duplex mismatches on the master or GUI host network can 
cause big slow downs.

Take the network and GUI out of the equation by using the command line on 
the master.

Get a file listing with a command line this:
bplist -B -C client -unix_files -l -t 0 -R -s 01/01/2011 -e 02/09/2011 /
-t 0 is backup type. 0 is Standard. 13 is Windows-NT.
-A instead of -B if you want the file list from archives rather than 
backups.
The man page for bplist will fill in more details if needed.
--
Jim VandeVegt | Technical Integrator, ETG
Physicians Mutual | 2600 Dodge Street | Omaha, NE 68131
402.930.2649 | PhysiciansMutual.com | jim.vandev...@physiciansmutual.com

Insurance for all of us.™
health | life | retirement

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley 
[hkyeak...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 15:58
To: Infantino, Joseph
Cc: NetBackup Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR  
server

My apologies, I should have added that.

In my live environment, I have two servers:
ziggurat - Master/Media RHEL4
obelisk - media RHEL4

For DNS I'm just relying on the /etc/hosts file as I'm only trying
to recover 5 systems. The source system that I'm restoring from is not
here, not have we built a replica on it. I'm trying to browse files
that were backed up on server-A in my live environment and restore
them to server-B here in the DR environment.

I can browse down the directory tree, it just takes 20 minutes to do
what I can do in 10 seconds in prod. I'm assuming it's trying to call
out the server-A. I don't see why it should have to do that since the
metadata for the restore files should be in the catalog here on my
master server.

-Thanks.

- HKY
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Infantino, Joseph jinfa...@harris.com 
wrote:
 What is the OS of the Master and Media server(s)?
 Is DNS working flawlessly?

 Thank you,

 Joseph A. Infantino II
 BackUp/Recovery Administrator
 HARRIS IT Services
 Assured Infrastructure Management
 Office: 321-724-3011 | Fax: 321-724-3392
 Email: joseph.infant...@harris.com




 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe 
Yeakley
 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:24 PM
 To: NetBackup Mailing List
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR 
server

 I'm at a DR exercise. I've installed, patched, configured NBU and
 successfully imported a catalog. I'm in Backup, Archive Restore and
 using the Directory Structure pane to drill down to the files I want
 to restore. I'm restoring files to an alternate server than the one
 where the original files were taken from. I've set the parameters for
 source and destination and everything looks good. When I pull up my
 list of available backups, the list takes like 5 minutes to pull up. I
 select the policy I want to restore from and it takes like 5 minutes
 to put the directory tree in the Directory Structure pane. I select
 the icon next to root to expand root, and it takes like 5 minutes to
 show me the next layer.

 You get the idea. On my master server back home, this process takes
 seconds. Boom, boom, boom. I drill down select my file and go.

 Here I expand root, then 5 minutes later I expand /dirA, then 5
 minutes later I expand /dirA/dirB...

 I've been digging around for about 30 minutes to see if there's some
 type

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-09 Thread Rusty.Major
Another thought:

If this is version 7.0.1, there is a hostname caching 'feature' now in 
NetBackup (Which I do NOT like, Symantec!!!). It caches the IP for each 
host configured in NBU and sometimes this can result in the incorrect IP 
being tied to the hostname. The default TTL for this cached data is one 
hour, but you can refresh it by running the following command on the 
Master/Media server(s) and/or clients:

bpclntcmd -clear_host_cache

So, you could see that even though the name resolution may be fixed in DNS 
or hosts, NBU may still have it cached. I've heard there's a way to reduce 
the time this is refreshed, but I don't remember where it's at.

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH136792

Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard 
Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 
281-584-4693
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My apologies, I should have added that.

In my live environment, I have two servers:
ziggurat - Master/Media RHEL4
obelisk - media RHEL4

For DNS I'm just relying on the /etc/hosts file as I'm only trying
to recover 5 systems. The source system that I'm restoring from is not
here, not have we built a replica on it. I'm trying to browse files
that were backed up on server-A in my live environment and restore
them to server-B here in the DR environment.

I can browse down the directory tree, it just takes 20 minutes to do
what I can do in 10 seconds in prod. I'm assuming it's trying to call
out the server-A. I don't see why it should have to do that since the
metadata for the restore files should be in the catalog here on my
master server.

-Thanks.

- HKY
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Infantino, Joseph jinfa...@harris.com 
wrote:
 What is the OS of the Master and Media server(s)?
 Is DNS working flawlessly?

 Thank you,

 Joseph A. Infantino II
 BackUp/Recovery Administrator
 HARRIS IT Services
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 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe 
Yeakley
 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:24 PM
 To: NetBackup Mailing List
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR 
server

 I'm at a DR exercise. I've installed, patched, configured NBU and
 successfully imported a catalog. I'm in Backup, Archive Restore and
 using the Directory Structure pane to drill down to the files I want
 to restore. I'm restoring files to an alternate server than the one
 where the original files were taken from. I've set the parameters for
 source and destination and everything looks good. When I pull up my
 list of available backups, the list takes like 5 minutes to pull up. I
 select the policy I want to restore from and it takes like 5 minutes
 to put the directory tree in the Directory Structure pane. I select
 the icon next to root to expand root, and it takes like 5 minutes to
 show me the next layer.

 You get the idea. On my master server back home, this process takes
 seconds. Boom, boom, boom. I drill down select my file and go.

 Here I expand root, then 5 minutes later I expand /dirA, then 5
 minutes later I expand /dirA/dirB...

 I've been digging around for about 30 minutes to see if there's some
 type of a timeout setting or something that's causing this.

 Have any of you seen this before?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-09 Thread Dean
Definitely sounds like hostname resolution problems to me too. If all of the
hosts you want to talk to are in your /etc/hosts, removing DNS completely
sounds like a good option. The NBU GUI still seems to want to chatter with
every host it knows about, so if you remove DNS from resolv.conf, or just
delete resolv.conf as Jim said), those timeouts should happen a lot quicker.


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:10 AM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote:

 Another thought:

 If this is version 7.0.1, there is a hostname caching 'feature' now in
 NetBackup (Which I do NOT like, Symantec!!!). It caches the IP for each host
 configured in NBU and sometimes this can result in the incorrect IP being
 tied to the hostname. The default TTL for this cached data is one hour, but
 you can refresh it by running the following command on the Master/Media
 server(s) and/or clients:

 bpclntcmd -clear_host_cache

 So, you could see that even though the name resolution may be fixed in DNS
 or hosts, NBU may still have it cached. I've heard there's a way to reduce
 the time this is refreshed, but I don't remember where it's at.

 http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH136792

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 02/09/2011 03:58 PM
   To
 Infantino, Joseph jinfa...@harris.com
  cc
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 Subject
 Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR
  server




 My apologies, I should have added that.

 In my live environment, I have two servers:
 ziggurat - Master/Media RHEL4
 obelisk - media RHEL4

 For DNS I'm just relying on the /etc/hosts file as I'm only trying
 to recover 5 systems. The source system that I'm restoring from is not
 here, not have we built a replica on it. I'm trying to browse files
 that were backed up on server-A in my live environment and restore
 them to server-B here in the DR environment.

 I can browse down the directory tree, it just takes 20 minutes to do
 what I can do in 10 seconds in prod. I'm assuming it's trying to call
 out the server-A. I don't see why it should have to do that since the
 metadata for the restore files should be in the catalog here on my
 master server.

 -Thanks.

 - HKY
 On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Infantino, Joseph jinfa...@harris.com
 wrote:
  What is the OS of the Master and Media server(s)?
  Is DNS working flawlessly?
 
  Thank you,
 
  Joseph A. Infantino II
  BackUp/Recovery Administrator
  HARRIS IT Services
  Assured Infrastructure Management
  Office: 321-724-3011 | Fax: 321-724-3392
  Email: joseph.infant...@harris.com
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
 mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.eduveritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu]
 On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley
  Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:24 PM
  To: NetBackup Mailing List
  Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR
 server
 
  I'm at a DR exercise. I've installed, patched, configured NBU and
  successfully imported a catalog. I'm in Backup, Archive Restore and
  using the Directory Structure pane to drill down to the files I want
  to restore. I'm restoring files to an alternate server than the one
  where the original files were taken from. I've set the parameters for
  source and destination and everything looks good. When I pull up my
  list of available backups, the list takes like 5 minutes to pull up. I
  select the policy I want to restore from and it takes like 5 minutes
  to put the directory tree in the Directory Structure pane. I select
  the icon next to root to expand root, and it takes like 5 minutes to
  show me the next layer.
 
  You get the idea. On my master server back home, this process takes
  seconds. Boom, boom, boom. I drill down select my file and go.
 
  Here I expand root, then 5 minutes later I expand /dirA, then 5
  minutes later I expand /dirA/dirB...
 
  I've been digging around for about 30 minutes to see if there's some
  type of a timeout setting or something that's causing this.
 
  Have any of you seen this before?
 
  - Heathe Kyle Yeakley
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-09 Thread Rusty.Major
You can keep the Java UI from trying to reach out to all hosts when you 
hit Host PropertiesClients by changing or adding the following parameter 
in the setconf.bat file:
SET FORCE_IPADDR_LOOKUP=0

I'm not sure what, if any, setting there is for the Win Admin Console.

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Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 
281-584-4693
Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ 
http://availability.sungard.com/ 
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Dean dean.de...@gmail.com 
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Subject
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server






Definitely sounds like hostname resolution problems to me too. If all of 
the hosts you want to talk to are in your /etc/hosts, removing DNS 
completely sounds like a good option. The NBU GUI still seems to want to 
chatter with every host it knows about, so if you remove DNS from 
resolv.conf, or just delete resolv.conf as Jim said), those timeouts 
should happen a lot quicker.


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:10 AM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote:
Another thought: 

If this is version 7.0.1, there is a hostname caching 'feature' now in 
NetBackup (Which I do NOT like, Symantec!!!). It caches the IP for each 
host configured in NBU and sometimes this can result in the incorrect IP 
being tied to the hostname. The default TTL for this cached data is one 
hour, but you can refresh it by running the following command on the 
Master/Media server(s) and/or clients: 

bpclntcmd -clear_host_cache 

So, you could see that even though the name resolution may be fixed in DNS 
or hosts, NBU may still have it cached. I've heard there's a way to reduce 
the time this is refreshed, but I don't remember where it's at. 

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH136792 

Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard 
Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 
281-584-4693 
Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ 
http://availability.sungard.com/ 
P Think before you print 
CONFIDENTIALITY:  This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain 
confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized 
disclosure or use is prohibited.  If you received this e-mail in error, 
please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. 


Heathe Yeakley hkyeak...@gmail.com 
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02/09/2011 03:58 PM 


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Subject
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR   
 server








My apologies, I should have added that.

In my live environment, I have two servers:
ziggurat - Master/Media RHEL4
obelisk - media RHEL4

For DNS I'm just relying on the /etc/hosts file as I'm only trying
to recover 5 systems. The source system that I'm restoring from is not
here, not have we built a replica on it. I'm trying to browse files
that were backed up on server-A in my live environment and restore
them to server-B here in the DR environment.

I can browse down the directory tree, it just takes 20 minutes to do
what I can do in 10 seconds in prod. I'm assuming it's trying to call
out the server-A. I don't see why it should have to do that since the
metadata for the restore files should be in the catalog here on my
master server.

-Thanks.

- HKY
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Infantino, Joseph jinfa...@harris.com 
wrote:
 What is the OS of the Master and Media server(s)?
 Is DNS working flawlessly?

 Thank you,

 Joseph A. Infantino II
 BackUp/Recovery Administrator
 HARRIS IT Services
 Assured Infrastructure Management
 Office: 321-724-3011 | Fax: 321-724-3392
 Email: joseph.infant...@harris.com




 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe 
Yeakley
 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:24 PM
 To: NetBackup Mailing List
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR 
server

 I'm at a DR exercise. I've installed, patched, configured NBU and
 successfully imported a catalog. I'm in Backup, Archive Restore and
 using the Directory Structure pane to drill down to the files I want
 to restore. I'm restoring files to an alternate server than the one
 where the original files were taken from. I've set the parameters for
 source and destination and everything looks good. When I pull up my
 list

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server

2011-02-09 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote:

 If this is version 7.0.1, there is a hostname caching 'feature' now in
 NetBackup (Which I do NOT like, Symantec!!!). It caches the IP for each host
 configured in NBU and sometimes this can result in the incorrect IP being
 tied to the hostname. The default TTL for this cached data is one hour, but
 you can refresh it by running the following command on the Master/Media
 server(s) and/or clients:

 bpclntcmd -clear_host_cache

 So, you could see that even though the name resolution may be fixed in DNS
 or hosts, NBU may still have it cached. I've heard there's a way to reduce
 the time this is refreshed, but I don't remember where it's at.


The DNS caching behavior is controlled by the 2nd parameter of the
master server's VNET_OPTIONS in bp.conf; units are in seconds.  The
default in 7.0.1 is 1 hour, but we've reduced this to 5 min in our
environment without ill effect:

VNET_OPTIONS = 120 300 200 40 3 1 30 5 1793 32 0 0

   .../Ed
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