[Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built

2010-05-26 Thread Shekel Tal
Hi Guys

 

I have quite an interesting one here

 

NetBackup 6.5.5 - windows 2003 Master

NetBackup 6.5.5 Windows 2003 Media Server behind a firewall backing
itself up

All comms going through vnetd

 

I am using a file list such as:

E:\Folder1\*

E:\Folder2\*

 

I am doing this so that I can pull the data of the disk using multiple
streams so that I can keep a decent data flow to an LTO4 drive.

Else certain directories containing small file just slow the entire
backup volume down

 

The first backup run used the wildcard and detected each subdirectory
and ran a separate stream.

When new sub directories are added they are not detected by the wildcard
discovery - the directories which existed at the time the first back ran
are the only ones which jobs are created for.

 

If I create a new policy and specify E:\Folder1\* - NetBackup will then
detect all the subdirectories and kick off a job for each one.

Its almost as if the file list is being cached somewhere and not being
rediscovered for each scheduled backup.

 

Any thoughts or similar experiences?

I am sure I have actually seen this will earlier versions of NetBackup -
going back to NB5

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built

2010-05-26 Thread Marianne Van Den Berg
Delete the STREAMS files under images\client-name

 

Warning:  This will probably cause incremental to run as fulls until a
new full has run. 

 

Kind regards

 

M.

 

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Tal
Sent: 26 May 2010 04:37 PM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built

 

Hi Guys

 

I have quite an interesting one here

 

NetBackup 6.5.5 - windows 2003 Master

NetBackup 6.5.5 Windows 2003 Media Server behind a firewall backing
itself up

All comms going through vnetd

 

I am using a file list such as:

E:\Folder1\*

E:\Folder2\*

 

I am doing this so that I can pull the data of the disk using multiple
streams so that I can keep a decent data flow to an LTO4 drive.

Else certain directories containing small file just slow the entire
backup volume down

 

The first backup run used the wildcard and detected each subdirectory
and ran a separate stream.

When new sub directories are added they are not detected by the wildcard
discovery - the directories which existed at the time the first back ran
are the only ones which jobs are created for.

 

If I create a new policy and specify E:\Folder1\* - NetBackup will then
detect all the subdirectories and kick off a job for each one.

Its almost as if the file list is being cached somewhere and not being
rediscovered for each scheduled backup.

 

Any thoughts or similar experiences?

I am sure I have actually seen this will earlier versions of NetBackup -
going back to NB5

 

Cheers

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built

2010-05-26 Thread Shekel Tal
Thanks, will try that

I can see there is a stream file for each policy which ran with the file
structure inside - makes sense

 



From: Marianne Van Den Berg [mailto:mvdb...@stortech.co.za] 
Sent: 26 May 2010 15:44
To: Shekel Tal; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built

 

Delete the STREAMS files under images\client-name

 

Warning:  This will probably cause incremental to run as fulls until a
new full has run. 

 

Kind regards

 

M.

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Shekel
Tal
Sent: 26 May 2010 04:37 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built

 

Hi Guys

 

I have quite an interesting one here

 

NetBackup 6.5.5 - windows 2003 Master

NetBackup 6.5.5 Windows 2003 Media Server behind a firewall backing
itself up

All comms going through vnetd

 

I am using a file list such as:

E:\Folder1\*

E:\Folder2\*

 

I am doing this so that I can pull the data of the disk using multiple
streams so that I can keep a decent data flow to an LTO4 drive.

Else certain directories containing small file just slow the entire
backup volume down

 

The first backup run used the wildcard and detected each subdirectory
and ran a separate stream.

When new sub directories are added they are not detected by the wildcard
discovery - the directories which existed at the time the first back ran
are the only ones which jobs are created for.

 

If I create a new policy and specify E:\Folder1\* - NetBackup will then
detect all the subdirectories and kick off a job for each one.

Its almost as if the file list is being cached somewhere and not being
rediscovered for each scheduled backup.

 

Any thoughts or similar experiences?

I am sure I have actually seen this will earlier versions of NetBackup -
going back to NB5

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built

2010-05-26 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Shekel Tal tal.she...@uk.fujitsu.comwrote:

 The first backup run used the wildcard and detected each subdirectory and
 ran a separate stream.

 When new sub directories are added they are not detected by the wildcard
 discovery – the directories which existed at the time the first back ran are
 the only ones which jobs are created for.

  If I create a new policy and specify E:\Folder1\* - NetBackup will then
 detect all the subdirectories and kick off a job for each one.

 Its almost as if the file list is being cached somewhere and not being
 rediscovered for each scheduled backup.


What I think you're running into is the frequency of the pre-discovery
process.

man bpgetconfig and look at the -prep settings.

 -prep hours

   The preprocessing interval. This interval  is  the
   minimum  time  in  hours between client queries to
   discover  new  paths  when  NetBackup  uses  auto-
   discover-streaming  mode.  For additional informa-
   tion, see Setting  the  Preprocess  Interval  for
   Auto  Discovery  in  the File-List Directives for
   Multiple   Data   Streams   intheNetBackup
   Administrator's Guide.

   The default Preprocess Interval value is 4  hours.
   If  the  preprocessing interval changes, change it
   back to the default by specifying -prep -1.

   The preprocessing interval can be set  to  prepro-
   cess immediately by specifying 0 as the preprocess
   interval for auto discovery on the  bpconfig  com-
   mand line.

   The maximum Preprocessing Interval is 48 hours.

This has existed for many releases - I found a reference to it in the NBU 5
Windows guide.
   .../Ed

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE
ewi...@ewilts.org
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built

2010-05-26 Thread Patrick k. Behringer
Try removing the pempersist file.

Tech note http://support.veritas.com/docs/295532

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:01 AM
To: Shekel Tal
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Shekel Tal 
tal.she...@uk.fujitsu.commailto:tal.she...@uk.fujitsu.com wrote:
The first backup run used the wildcard and detected each subdirectory and ran a 
separate stream.
When new sub directories are added they are not detected by the wildcard 
discovery - the directories which existed at the time the first back ran are 
the only ones which jobs are created for.
 If I create a new policy and specify E:\Folder1\* - NetBackup will then detect 
all the subdirectories and kick off a job for each one.
Its almost as if the file list is being cached somewhere and not being 
rediscovered for each scheduled backup.

What I think you're running into is the frequency of the pre-discovery process.

man bpgetconfig and look at the -prep settings.

 -prep hours

   The preprocessing interval. This interval  is  the
   minimum  time  in  hours between client queries to
   discover  new  paths  when  NetBackup  uses  auto-
   discover-streaming  mode.  For additional informa-
   tion, see Setting  the  Preprocess  Interval  for
   Auto  Discovery  in  the File-List Directives for
   Multiple   Data   Streams   intheNetBackup
   Administrator's Guide.

   The default Preprocess Interval value is 4  hours.
   If  the  preprocessing interval changes, change it
   back to the default by specifying -prep -1.

   The preprocessing interval can be set  to  prepro-
   cess immediately by specifying 0 as the preprocess
   interval for auto discovery on the  bpconfig  com-
   mand line.

   The maximum Preprocessing Interval is 48 hours.

This has existed for many releases - I found a reference to it in the NBU 5 
Windows guide.
   .../Ed
Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE
ewi...@ewilts.orgmailto:ewi...@ewilts.org
[cid:image001.jpg@01CAFCE4.64F548A0]Linkedinhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts


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