Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

2010-12-13 Thread Conner, Neil
No, but it does work to NFS mount the image catalog in a pinch.  We had a
sudden disk full condition on the local array containing the catalog and a
SAN drive wasn¹t available, so this was the recommendation from Symantec
--except, unbeknownst to them at the time, bpcatarc throws an error and
quits...  Yes, it was a fun time.

Neil


On 12/10/10 12:58 PM, Ed Wilts ewi...@ewilts.org wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Conner, Neil n...@mbari.org wrote:
 Catarc does not work if your catalog is NFS mounted
 
 I don't think that an NFS-mounted catalog is supported, is it?  Certainly
 Symantec won't support the EMM database on NFS even though Sybase officially
 supports NFS-based databases (like Oracle does).
 
    .../Ed
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

2010-12-10 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Conner, Neil n...@mbari.org wrote:

 Catarc does not work if your catalog is NFS mounted


I don't think that an NFS-mounted catalog is supported, is it?  Certainly
Symantec won't support the EMM database on NFS even though Sybase officially
supports NFS-based databases (like Oracle does).

   .../Ed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

2010-12-10 Thread Chapman, Scott
Kind of a side question... does Symantec support SAN disk for the catalog these 
days?  I know they didn't used to support that, but the catalog is getting a 
bit big these days to keep running it off of internal disk...  Thoughts?

Scott Chapman
Senior Technical Specialist
Storage and Database Administration
ICBC - Victoria
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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Conner, Neil 
n...@mbari.orgmailto:n...@mbari.org wrote:
Catarc does not work if your catalog is NFS mounted

I don't think that an NFS-mounted catalog is supported, is it?  Certainly 
Symantec won't support the EMM database on NFS even though Sybase officially 
supports NFS-based databases (like Oracle does).

   .../Ed






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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

2010-12-10 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Chapman, Scott scott.chap...@icbc.comwrote:

  Kind of a side question… does Symantec support SAN disk for the catalog
 these days?  I know they didn’t used to support that, but the catalog is
 getting a bit big these days to keep running it off of internal disk…
 Thoughts?


They've supported this for years and years.  Our catalog has been EVA-based
for what seems like forever.  It's about to go local with our new master
server which has enough slots - and spindles are getting big enough - that
local SAS is doable again.  Our catalog is about 740GB.

   .../Ed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

2010-12-10 Thread Jimenez, Daniel
Scott

We have our catalogs on SAN disk and have never had an issue receiving support 
on it.

Daniel Jimenez
Backup and Recovery Team
From: Chapman, Scott [mailto:scott.chap...@icbc.com]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:01 PM
To: 'Ed Wilts'; 'Conner, Neil'
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

Kind of a side question... does Symantec support SAN disk for the catalog these 
days?  I know they didn't used to support that, but the catalog is getting a 
bit big these days to keep running it off of internal disk...  Thoughts?

Scott Chapman
Senior Technical Specialist
Storage and Database Administration
ICBC - Victoria
Ph:  250.414.7650  Cell:  250.213.9295
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Conner, Neil 
n...@mbari.orgmailto:n...@mbari.org wrote:
Catarc does not work if your catalog is NFS mounted

I don't think that an NFS-mounted catalog is supported, is it?  Certainly 
Symantec won't support the EMM database on NFS even though Sybase officially 
supports NFS-based databases (like Oracle does).

   .../Ed




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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

2010-12-10 Thread Jimenez, Daniel
Neil

I will take a look at the guide and open up a support ticket, thanks for your 
help.

Daniel Jimenez
Backup and Recovery Team

From: Conner, Neil [mailto:n...@mbari.org]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

The Admin guide covers it in basic terms.  There are a suite of commands like 
bpcatarc, bpcatlist, bpcatres, etc.  I used it once to archive a portion of my 
catalog and then recovered it later.  It does what it claims to do, but I did 
encounter some details that weren't documented (in 6.5 anyway).  It's 
policy-driven and it writes to tape so you have to take the obvious precautions.

Make sure your catalog is in a consistent state before beginning
Catarc does not work if your catalog is NFS mounted
Check for KB articles that go into more detail than the Admin guide

Neil


On 12/10/10 11:49 AM, Jimenez, Daniel daniel.jime...@owb.com wrote:
Good Friday to Everyone

I am looking to find a way to reduce our large catalog and would like to find 
out if anyone has an archiving solution that would work for a Catalog? Any 
ideas would be appreciated, thanks.

Daniel Jimenez
Backup and Recovery Team


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

2010-12-10 Thread Chapman, Scott
Thanks Ed and Daniel!

Scott Chapman
Senior Technical Specialist
Storage and Database Administration
ICBC - Victoria
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Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:54 PM
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

Scott

We have our catalogs on SAN disk and have never had an issue receiving support 
on it.

Daniel Jimenez
Backup and Recovery Team
From: Chapman, Scott [mailto:scott.chap...@icbc.com]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:01 PM
To: 'Ed Wilts'; 'Conner, Neil'
Cc: Jimenez, Daniel; 'Veritas List'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

Kind of a side question... does Symantec support SAN disk for the catalog these 
days?  I know they didn't used to support that, but the catalog is getting a 
bit big these days to keep running it off of internal disk...  Thoughts?

Scott Chapman
Senior Technical Specialist
Storage and Database Administration
ICBC - Victoria
Ph:  250.414.7650  Cell:  250.213.9295
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
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Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:59 PM
To: Conner, Neil
Cc: Jimenez, Daniel; Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Conner, Neil 
n...@mbari.orgmailto:n...@mbari.org wrote:
Catarc does not work if your catalog is NFS mounted

I don't think that an NFS-mounted catalog is supported, is it?  Certainly 
Symantec won't support the EMM database on NFS even though Sybase officially 
supports NFS-based databases (like Oracle does).

   .../Ed




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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution

2010-12-10 Thread Bluejay Adametz
 Kind of a side question… does Symantec support SAN disk for the catalog these 
 days?

The question to ask yourself when considering this is, where is the
data that you're backing up, and where is the catalog that you need in
order to restore it?

Personally, I don't want both items on the same array.

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