Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library
The make and model are in the subject. Quantum is specifically asking us to change to application based cleaning from robot based due to ongoing issue. Also in reviewing NetBackup documentation it seems to suggest that robot based cleaning should not be used. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Len Boyle Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:09 PM To: Lightner, Jeff; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library What is the make and model of you tape library. A number of them require that the library do the tape drive cleaning. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:17 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library To set NetBackup cleaning as opposed to robot cleaning itself I gather we need to setup barcode rules as discussed in the following thread: http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/cleaning-tape-cln I've done that but am curious if they are correct about having to set HC2_CLN for HCART2 and HC_CLN for HCART? We have a mix of LTO3 (which we have as HCART) and LTO5 (which we have as HCART2) but the cleaning tapes are Universal so would work in either drive type. Do I really have to try to setup both HC_CLN and HC2_CLN? It seemed to me that the HC_CLN and HC2_CLN were just to allow you to have 2 different kinds of cleaning tapes. Additionally - I've disabled the robot's automatic cleaning and moved the cleaning tapes from the special cleaning slots to the general slots. Other than that and setting the barcode rules is there anything I need to do to enable NBU cleaning? The drive cleaning frequency is set to 0 hours. Is it correct to think this is appropriate because I want the cleaning to be based on tape alerts rather than frequency based on the recommendation I saw in the NBU help? Jeffrey C. Lightner Sr. UNIX Administrator DS Waters of America, Inc. 5660 New Northside Drive NW Suite 250 Atlanta, GA 30328 P: 678-486-3516 C: 678-772-0018 F: 770-937-7360 E: jlight...@water.commailto:jlight...@water.com Athena(r), Created for the Cause(tm) Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library
The universal cartridges here don't have that naming convention. They're Quantum (probably OEMed) with CLN###L4 where the ### is the cleaning tape number. So to set up barcode rules for such tapes rather than basing them on simply CLN they have to be base on the specific cleaning tape numbers in order to be able to add to two different (HC and HC2) cleaning types? That seems a bit of a pain. From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:51 PM To: Lightner, Jeff; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library Hi, I've not used that tape of library; but with NBU and using universal cleaning tapes you generally will want a set number of cleaning cartridges associated with each drive type. This is *required* (e.g., yes you need both HC_CLN and HC2_CLN) so automatic cleaning via the TAPE_ALERT flags works properly. Also, normally universal cleaning tapes are labeled e.g., CLNU01CU. I've seen an environment where this was not set correctly and no automatic cleanings took place until the cleaning tape classification was fixed to match the drive type. The setting of 0 is correct as you only want to clean the drive when the TAPE_ALERT flag is given and the drive needs to be cleaned. Justin. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:17 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library To set NetBackup cleaning as opposed to robot cleaning itself I gather we need to setup barcode rules as discussed in the following thread: http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/cleaning-tape-cln I've done that but am curious if they are correct about having to set HC2_CLN for HCART2 and HC_CLN for HCART? We have a mix of LTO3 (which we have as HCART) and LTO5 (which we have as HCART2) but the cleaning tapes are Universal so would work in either drive type. Do I really have to try to setup both HC_CLN and HC2_CLN? It seemed to me that the HC_CLN and HC2_CLN were just to allow you to have 2 different kinds of cleaning tapes. Additionally - I've disabled the robot's automatic cleaning and moved the cleaning tapes from the special cleaning slots to the general slots. Other than that and setting the barcode rules is there anything I need to do to enable NBU cleaning? The drive cleaning frequency is set to 0 hours. Is it correct to think this is appropriate because I want the cleaning to be based on tape alerts rather than frequency based on the recommendation I saw in the NBU help? Jeffrey C. Lightner Sr. UNIX Administrator DS Waters of America, Inc. 5660 New Northside Drive NW Suite 250 Atlanta, GA 30328 P: 678-486-3516 C: 678-772-0018 F: 770-937-7360 E: jlight...@water.commailto:jlight...@water.com Athena(r), Created for the Cause(tm) Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library
That is interesting. We found with the IBM 3584 tape library (also known as TS3500) with the ALMS feature turned on, the library has to be doing the cleaning. We used to use a STK L700 with ACSLS software for sharing the library between different Netbackup masters. We had issues and found a NetBackup tech note that said with ACSLS one had to let the library do the cleaning. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:32 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library The make and model are in the subject. Quantum is specifically asking us to change to application based cleaning from robot based due to ongoing issue. Also in reviewing NetBackup documentation it seems to suggest that robot based cleaning should not be used. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu]mailto:[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Len Boyle Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:09 PM To: Lightner, Jeff; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library What is the make and model of you tape library. A number of them require that the library do the tape drive cleaning. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu]mailto:[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:17 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library To set NetBackup cleaning as opposed to robot cleaning itself I gather we need to setup barcode rules as discussed in the following thread: http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/cleaning-tape-cln I've done that but am curious if they are correct about having to set HC2_CLN for HCART2 and HC_CLN for HCART? We have a mix of LTO3 (which we have as HCART) and LTO5 (which we have as HCART2) but the cleaning tapes are Universal so would work in either drive type. Do I really have to try to setup both HC_CLN and HC2_CLN? It seemed to me that the HC_CLN and HC2_CLN were just to allow you to have 2 different kinds of cleaning tapes. Additionally - I've disabled the robot's automatic cleaning and moved the cleaning tapes from the special cleaning slots to the general slots. Other than that and setting the barcode rules is there anything I need to do to enable NBU cleaning? The drive cleaning frequency is set to 0 hours. Is it correct to think this is appropriate because I want the cleaning to be based on tape alerts rather than frequency based on the recommendation I saw in the NBU help? Jeffrey C. Lightner Sr. UNIX Administrator DS Waters of America, Inc. 5660 New Northside Drive NW Suite 250 Atlanta, GA 30328 P: 678-486-3516 C: 678-772-0018 F: 770-937-7360 E: jlight...@water.commailto:jlight...@water.com Athena(r), Created for the Cause(tm) Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library
The ACSLS and SDLC type software (and possibly the ALMS) will handle cleaning differently than a TLD type robot. The problem with library based cleaning on a TLD robot is that the application software - NetBackup - is unaware that a drive is being cleaned. NetBackup can request a drive that is currently being cleaned. The library refuses the request because it is busy, so NetBackup downs the drive. This happened to me quite a bit with the TLD type robots before using NetBackup cleaning. I had a robot that used to be very busy, and practically every morning we would have to up drives that had gone down because of this behavior. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Len Boyle Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:00 AM To: Lightner, Jeff; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library That is interesting. We found with the IBM 3584 tape library (also known as TS3500) with the ALMS feature turned on, the library has to be doing the cleaning. We used to use a STK L700 with ACSLS software for sharing the library between different Netbackup masters. We had issues and found a NetBackup tech note that said with ACSLS one had to let the library do the cleaning. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu]mailto:[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:32 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library The make and model are in the subject. Quantum is specifically asking us to change to application based cleaning from robot based due to ongoing issue. Also in reviewing NetBackup documentation it seems to suggest that robot based cleaning should not be used. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu]mailto:[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Len Boyle Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:09 PM To: Lightner, Jeff; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library What is the make and model of you tape library. A number of them require that the library do the tape drive cleaning. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu]mailto:[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:17 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library To set NetBackup cleaning as opposed to robot cleaning itself I gather we need to setup barcode rules as discussed in the following thread: http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/cleaning-tape-cln I've done that but am curious if they are correct about having to set HC2_CLN for HCART2 and HC_CLN for HCART? We have a mix of LTO3 (which we have as HCART) and LTO5 (which we have as HCART2) but the cleaning tapes are Universal so would work in either drive type. Do I really have to try to setup both HC_CLN and HC2_CLN? It seemed to me that the HC_CLN and HC2_CLN were just to allow you to have 2 different kinds of cleaning tapes. Additionally - I've disabled the robot's automatic cleaning and moved the cleaning tapes from the special cleaning slots to the general slots. Other than that and setting the barcode rules is there anything I need to do to enable NBU cleaning? The drive cleaning frequency is set to 0 hours. Is it correct to think this is appropriate because I want the cleaning to be based on tape alerts rather than frequency based on the recommendation I saw in the NBU help? Jeffrey C. Lightner Sr. UNIX Administrator DS Waters of America, Inc. 5660 New Northside Drive NW Suite 250 Atlanta, GA 30328 P: 678-486-3516 C: 678-772-0018 F: 770-937-7360 E: jlight...@water.commailto:jlight...@water.com Athena(r), Created for the Cause(tm) Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library
Hi, I’ve not used that tape of library; but with NBU and using universal cleaning tapes you generally will want a set number of cleaning cartridges associated with each drive type. This is *required* (e.g., yes you need both HC_CLN and HC2_CLN) so automatic cleaning via the TAPE_ALERT flags works properly. Also, normally universal cleaning tapes are labeled e.g., CLNU01CU. I’ve seen an environment where this was not set correctly and no automatic cleanings took place until the cleaning tape classification was fixed to match the drive type. The setting of 0 is correct as you only want to clean the drive when the TAPE_ALERT flag is given and the drive needs to be cleaned. Justin. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:17 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library To set NetBackup cleaning as opposed to robot cleaning itself I gather we need to setup barcode rules as discussed in the following thread: http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/cleaning-tape-cln I’ve done that but am curious if they are correct about having to set HC2_CLN for HCART2 and HC_CLN for HCART? We have a mix of LTO3 (which we have as HCART) and LTO5 (which we have as HCART2) but the cleaning tapes are “Universal” so would work in either drive type. Do I really have to try to setup both HC_CLN and HC2_CLN? It seemed to me that the HC_CLN and HC2_CLN were just to allow you to have 2 different kinds of cleaning tapes. Additionally – I’ve disabled the robot’s automatic cleaning and moved the cleaning tapes from the special cleaning slots to the general slots. Other than that and setting the barcode rules is there anything I need to do to enable NBU cleaning? The drive cleaning frequency is set to 0 hours. Is it correct to think this is appropriate because I want the cleaning to be based on “tape alerts” rather than frequency based on the recommendation I saw in the NBU help? Jeffrey C. Lightner Sr. UNIX Administrator DS Waters of America, Inc. 5660 New Northside Drive NW Suite 250 Atlanta, GA 30328 P: 678-486-3516 C: 678-772-0018 F: 770-937-7360 E: jlight...@water.com Athena®, Created for the Cause™ Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library
What is the make and model of you tape library. A number of them require that the library do the tape drive cleaning. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:17 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning tape setup Quantum i6000 Library To set NetBackup cleaning as opposed to robot cleaning itself I gather we need to setup barcode rules as discussed in the following thread: http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/cleaning-tape-cln I’ve done that but am curious if they are correct about having to set HC2_CLN for HCART2 and HC_CLN for HCART? We have a mix of LTO3 (which we have as HCART) and LTO5 (which we have as HCART2) but the cleaning tapes are “Universal” so would work in either drive type. Do I really have to try to setup both HC_CLN and HC2_CLN? It seemed to me that the HC_CLN and HC2_CLN were just to allow you to have 2 different kinds of cleaning tapes. Additionally – I’ve disabled the robot’s automatic cleaning and moved the cleaning tapes from the special cleaning slots to the general slots. Other than that and setting the barcode rules is there anything I need to do to enable NBU cleaning? The drive cleaning frequency is set to 0 hours. Is it correct to think this is appropriate because I want the cleaning to be based on “tape alerts” rather than frequency based on the recommendation I saw in the NBU help? Jeffrey C. Lightner Sr. UNIX Administrator DS Waters of America, Inc. 5660 New Northside Drive NW Suite 250 Atlanta, GA 30328 P: 678-486-3516 C: 678-772-0018 F: 770-937-7360 E: jlight...@water.commailto:jlight...@water.com Athena®, Created for the Cause™ Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
