Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.

2010-04-28 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
You want to go from a windows master to a Unix master.. ho boy!

Been there Done that.

If you want to bring your database with you, then yes, you will need to use 
Symantec services to do the migration... otherwise they will not support you... 
or so they told me.

I had issues with that... don't know if it was because we were going to AIX, 
but we could not get it to work.  They said they had done this before on Linux.

I ended up.

Keeping my windows master until all tapes expired on it.

I created my new aix master fresh.
Added it to all the clients and made it their master (also added the new media 
servers).
And started doing backups on the new environment (upgraded clients after we had 
it working)

The clients still had the old master name in their server list.
If I had to do  restore, I just did it from the old master/media server.

Once all tapes were expired.  I took down the old windows server.
And any time we were in a client properties, we would remove the old server 
names from the reference.

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ulises Rodriguez
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:07 PM
To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.

Hello All,

I am looking to migrate my windows 2003 32 bit  netbackup master/media server 
to Redhat  64 bit enterprise edition.

What I am looking for is for advice what I need to watch out for as far as the 
config/migration etc..etc..

My support contract with a local company suggested to use their professional 
services for this migration.

Any advice will be appreciated.

Thank you,

Ulises Rodriguez.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.

2010-04-28 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:13 PM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote:

  You want to go from a windows master to a Unix master…… ho boy!

  Been there…. Done that…..

As have we - were successful back on NBU 3.4 going from Windows to Solaris.
We changed host names while we were at it.

 If you want to bring your database with you, then yes, you will need to use
 Symantec services to do the migration… otherwise they will not support you…
 or so they told me.

If you are able to successfully complete your upgrade, Symantec will support
you after that.  What they can't do is support you during the migration
itself because there are a LOT of ways it can (and will) go wrong and these
breakages are typically going to be well beyond 1st or 2nd level tech
support.

This is a very complex migration and I don't recall seeing any postings from
anybody who has completed a cross-platform migration since NBU 6.x was
released (which introduced EMM).

Unless you have a very strong technical ability to hack binary files and a
fairly good knowledge of NetBackup internals, I would recommend that you not
do this without paying for Symantec (or 3rd party) professional services.
It's doable but it's HARD.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.

2010-04-28 Thread Ulises Rodriguez
Yes, I need to bring my database/catalog over to the new server.

Thank you for all your responses.

Ulises Rodriguez


From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:01 PM
To: Ulises Rodriguez
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:13 PM, 
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.commailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 
wrote:
You want to go from a windows master to a Unix master.. ho boy!
 Been there Done that.
As have we - were successful back on NBU 3.4 going from Windows to Solaris.  We 
changed host names while we were at it.
If you want to bring your database with you, then yes, you will need to use 
Symantec services to do the migration... otherwise they will not support you... 
or so they told me.
If you are able to successfully complete your upgrade, Symantec will support 
you after that.  What they can't do is support you during the migration itself 
because there are a LOT of ways it can (and will) go wrong and these breakages 
are typically going to be well beyond 1st or 2nd level tech support.

This is a very complex migration and I don't recall seeing any postings from 
anybody who has completed a cross-platform migration since NBU 6.x was released 
(which introduced EMM).

Unless you have a very strong technical ability to hack binary files and a 
fairly good knowledge of NetBackup internals, I would recommend that you not do 
this without paying for Symantec (or 3rd party) professional services.  It's 
doable but it's HARD.

   .../Ed
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ewi...@ewilts.orgmailto:ewi...@ewilts.org
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.

2010-04-28 Thread Spencer O'Donnell
One issue you will have is the image files are not compatible from
Windows to unix and vice versa. So you would have to do a cat_convert on
them all. At least that was a 5.1 issue and still lives today I believe.


 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ulises
Rodriguez
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:07 PM
To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.

 

Hello All, 

 

I am looking to migrate my windows 2003 32 bit  netbackup master/media
server to Redhat  64 bit enterprise edition. 

 

What I am looking for is for advice what I need to watch out for as far
as the config/migration etc..etc.. 

 

My support contract with a local company suggested to use their
professional services for this migration.

 

Any advice will be appreciated. 

 

Thank you,

 

Ulises Rodriguez.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.

2010-04-28 Thread Nardello, John
Consider this a posting then Ed. =) 
 
Did several Windows 2003 to Solaris 10 migrations at my old employer of huge 
(1+ TB) NetBackup 6.5.x Masters, including keeping the catalog info and 
changing the hostnames. Spent a few weeks with rsync copying stuff from the 
Windows Master to a new Solaris server, then transferred the EMM database and 
the rest of the required files over the day-of. 
 
It's complex, and you'd better do everything in the right order, but it's 
possible. If you can't do it yourself now, frankly I'd recommend paying 
Symantec Consulting the $20k to do your first one for you and taking notes the 
entire time. =) Then you can see whether you want to do subsequent migrations 
yourself or keep paying. 
 
Our notes write-up of our first migration ran about 7 pages.  
 
Oh, and NB 6.5 doesn't care about the image files anymore as far as the old ^M 
problem goes, it'll read them just fine post-transfer; the only ../db/images/ 
files you have to convert are the STREAMS files. Other normal config files 
outside of ../db/images/ still have to be converted of course. And yes, that 
was straight from the Consulting guy and it proved out in test restores. 
 
Good luck !
- John Nardello
 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu on behalf of Ed Wilts
Sent: Wed 4/28/2010 11:01 AM
To: ulises.rodrig...@wallst.com
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:13 PM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote:


You want to go from a windows master to a Unix master.. ho boy!

 Been there Done that.

As have we - were successful back on NBU 3.4 going from Windows to Solaris.  We 
changed host names while we were at it.


If you want to bring your database with you, then yes, you will need to 
use Symantec services to do the migration... otherwise they will not support 
you... or so they told me.

If you are able to successfully complete your upgrade, Symantec will support 
you after that.  What they can't do is support you during the migration itself 
because there are a LOT of ways it can (and will) go wrong and these breakages 
are typically going to be well beyond 1st or 2nd level tech support.

This is a very complex migration and I don't recall seeing any postings from 
anybody who has completed a cross-platform migration since NBU 6.x was released 
(which introduced EMM).

Unless you have a very strong technical ability to hack binary files and a 
fairly good knowledge of NetBackup internals, I would recommend that you not do 
this without paying for Symantec (or 3rd party) professional services.  It's 
doable but it's HARD.

   .../Ed


Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE 
ewi...@ewilts.org

Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup migration

2010-01-12 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Asiye Yigit asiye.yi...@gantek.com wrote:

  Is it supported to move netbackup catalog on SPARC processor  (Soalris
 10) to  AMD Opteron processor (Solaris 10 X64) with the same hostname?


Cross-platform catalog moves are not supported.  In this case you're going
from SPARC to x64.  I can't comment on whether or not it will work, but I'm
pretty sure it's unsupported.  You can/should open a case with Symantec to
verify.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup migration

2010-01-12 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
You may find its not supported (I think they refer to Symantec
Consultancy for this), but I had done one before on a Windows
environment, and although not supported at the time, it had worked for
me.
 
Simon
 
 



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Yigit
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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup migration



 

Hello,

Is it supported to move netbackup catalog on SPARC processor  (Soalris
10) to  AMD Opteron processor (Solaris 10 X64) with the same hostname?

Regards

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup migration from 5.0 to 6.5, with server name change

2008-12-03 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:03 AM, kxie [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 I'm still worried about two things, architecturely I'm changing from one
 single master/media to two seperate server (one master and one media), in
 additional the new master and media server name is completely new.


Changing the name of a master server is NOT supported.  Unless you want to
do some significant manual surgery to internal undocumented NetBackup files,
you MUST maintain the original name of the master server.  Changing media
server names is supported by decommissioning the old one (this procedure is
documented) and then adding a new one.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup migration from 5.0 to 6.5, with server name change

2008-12-03 Thread Honeybrook, Kate
We have changed the name of our master server, however to Netbackup it
is still the original name, which we have achieved through the use of
DNS

Kate 

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I'm still worried about two things, architecturely I'm changing from one
single master/media to two seperate server (one master and one media),
in additional the new master and media server name is completely new.

besides bpmedia -movedb, and adding the FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER to
the bp.conf. Do I need to do anything else to make this work?

Kai Xie

[quote=Haberl, Max]Hi Kai,

1. correct, no change in the image db since 4.5 up to 6.5
2. i would do a bpmedia -movedb afterwards, cause the new master will
always try to connect to the old master server to update the mediaDB.
This would take a while, but you'll get a clean setup then.
But my proposal would be to make a plain 5.0MP3 installation on the new
server and then copy /opt/openv from the old server to the new one.
Change the bp.conf and run the box. this should work and is probably
faster.

3. exactly

Cheers
Max

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Migration 5.1 - 6.5

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

hi John
thanks. That is part of the problem, in that the hardware is becoming
troublesome.
 
So my plan was to install clean v 5.1 and then upgrade. Then slowly
migrate the client systems over to the new server. Eventually the old
server will be closed down.
 
Simon



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I recently pondered the same questions and chose to build a new
environment with 6.5 rather than upgrading the existing 5.1 servers. 

I can't speak for the SAN media servers as we don't have any but if you
are upgrading to 6.5 you will need to install 5.1 on the new servers
install your license keys and then upgrade to 6.5. Chances are your
license keys will not install on a virgin 6.5 server if they are 5.x
license keys.

As for question 3. I can't imagine how Symantec could ever consider that
a violation if you choose to upgrade via a clean install on new
hardware. What if your existing server failed, could you be expected to
buy new licenses if you had to rebuild on new hardware. As I see it I
probably saved Symantec a bunch of support calls by starting clean on a
new server.

john


On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:35 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external)
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Hi all, 
I am weighing up the pros and cons to either do an in place
upgrade or migration. 

I just wanted to know if anyone had any pros or cons to this.
The Environment constsits of 10+ SAN SSO Media Servers, 1 Master, 1
Robot.

In place should be easy, but Symantec are identifying many, many
issues with the current environment, that concerns me that the upgrade
will not go clean.

Starting afresh for the Master means I will migrate clients and
policies over from the old system to the new one. 

Just a couple of quick questions: 

1) My License key is for upgrade. Would it still work if 5.1 was
not installed on the clean new Server? 
2) for the SAN Media Servers, any cons I need to be aware of
when upgrading them and pointing them to the new Master Server

3) Does this violate the license agreement by using the new key
on new clean hardware? What if I turn off the Master, install 5.1 on the
new Server with my current license, and then use the upgrade license key
for NBU 6.5

Apprecaite the comments and advice. 

Thanks 

Regards 

Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Migration 5.1 - 6.5

2008-08-19 Thread John Howard
I recently pondered the same questions and chose to build a new environment
with 6.5 rather than upgrading the existing 5.1 servers.

I can't speak for the SAN media servers as we don't have any but if you are
upgrading to 6.5 you will need to install 5.1 on the new servers install
your license keys and then upgrade to 6.5. Chances are your license keys
will not install on a virgin 6.5 server if they are 5.x license keys.

As for question 3. I can't imagine how Symantec could ever consider that a
violation if you choose to upgrade via a clean install on new hardware. What
if your existing server failed, could you be expected to buy new licenses if
you had to rebuild on new hardware. As I see it I probably saved Symantec a
bunch of support calls by starting clean on a new server.

john

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:35 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi all,
 I am weighing up the pros and cons to either do an in place upgrade or
 migration.

 I just wanted to know if anyone had any pros or cons to this. The
 Environment constsits of 10+ SAN SSO Media Servers, 1 Master, 1 Robot.

 In place should be easy, but Symantec are identifying many, many issues
 with the current environment, that concerns me that the upgrade will not go
 clean.

 Starting afresh for the Master means I will migrate clients and policies
 over from the old system to the new one.

 Just a couple of quick questions:

 1) My License key is for upgrade. Would it still work if 5.1 was not
 installed on the clean new Server?
 2) for the SAN Media Servers, any cons I need to be aware of when upgrading
 them and pointing them to the new Master Server

 3) Does this violate the license agreement by using the new key on new
 clean hardware? What if I turn off the Master, install 5.1 on the new Server
 with my current license, and then use the upgrade license key for NBU 6.5

 Apprecaite the comments and advice.

 Thanks

 *Regards*

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