Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-18 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Bob
Sorry cant restore to another location ... there isnt one ! We are
talking 400GB of Data apparantly! And we have no space. I have no idea
what the exact filesizes should be, and I can only go on the information
given.

I have researched the -f but I may have a problem with this, as I will
need to get the exact physical path, rather than share path.
Should not be a major issue, as I can run this from the Server.

Thanks, Simon

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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

 Got a File Server with a share that is approx 400GB and contains 
 millions of files.
 San Media Win2k3 Sp2  NBU 7.0.1 talking to a 7.0.1 Master
 
 Problem: We have identified 40,000 files, of various types (ie:
 word, excel, jpeg, bmp, pdf) that are ZERO bytes. They appear to have 
 been like this for 4 months [...]
 
 1) Files are scattered across various folders / subfolders that are in

 use
 2) I cant just restore everythink back to its original location, 
 because there are files that have been recently used and amended

Restoring from a file of filenames (as has been suggested), to a
different directory, would be my preference.  Then maybe script a
comparison between the list of zero-byte files and the ones you have
restored...

If that is impractical and you have a backup of the current state of the
server, zero-byte files and all, you could
a) rename/move/delete the zero-byte files and
b) restore the entire share to original location but do NOT check
Overwrite existing files.  You should get 40,000 restores and (millions
- 40,000) file exists messages in the log.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-18 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Im getting 2 problems now

1) Status 227 in the GUI
2) Exit Status 100: System error occurred

I have had to re-do the file again. Its worse than I first thought, and
file sizes of each file is roughly 10 - 50MB per file!
So a restore to same location is needed.

Jeff, I may need some advice, as the file structure (paths where the
files are located) have spaces on and no spaces. Some also exceed 256
characters, which is going to prove an issue!

The date is also from a Month end backup 23rd Dec 2010.

Any advice, is apprecaited. I have the Command Window out, so I am
getting somewhere, but not fully restoring. :(
S.

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Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 4:13 PM
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Cc: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

If his list of files only contains the zero byte filenames he doesn't
need to restore to alternate directory.  It will only restore the files
he specifies in the list. 

He has already indicated he can't go to an alternate path he doesn't
have to if he specifying the files he wants to restore rather than
entire directories.  Of course he may have said that based on restoring
the entire backup rather than restoring individual files that he has
identified.

It is however very important he read and understand the bprestore man
page for the -f.  From what he wrote he already knows the files he needs
to restore so building his file list shouldn't be that hard.   However,
there are instructions in the man page regarding files with spaces in
their names that he may need to be cognizant of if he has any like that.


We use the -f listfile specification on a regular basis (mainly on
UNIX/Linux) but don't usually have spaces in file names OR are doing
entire directories.  

One can also use the -R alternatepathfile specification to redirect to
alternate paths.   If the list of files to be restored is small enough
that it will fit in an alternate path he might want to do a test run
using both -f and -R to verify it only restores the files he wants.  If
so he could then run it again with just the -f so that it puts the files
he wants in their original locations.   (Which would be simpler than
manually moving them all back over the original.)

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

 Got a File Server with a share that is approx 400GB and contains 
 millions of files.
 San Media Win2k3 Sp2  NBU 7.0.1 talking to a 7.0.1 Master
 
 Problem: We have identified 40,000 files, of various types (ie:
 word, excel, jpeg, bmp, pdf) that are ZERO bytes. They appear to have 
 been like this for 4 months [...]
 
 1) Files are scattered across various folders / subfolders that are in

 use
 2) I cant just restore everythink back to its original location, 
 because there are files that have been recently used and amended

Restoring from a file of filenames (as has been suggested), to a
different directory, would be my preference.  Then maybe script a
comparison between the list of zero-byte files and the ones you have
restored...

If that is impractical and you have a backup of the current state of the
server, zero-byte files and all, you could
a) rename/move/delete the zero-byte files and
b) restore the entire share to original location but do NOT check
Overwrite existing files.  You should get 40,000 restores and (millions
- 40,000) file exists messages in the log.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-18 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Doug
Funny enough, I was thinking of the same thing (ie: delete files, verify
if they were infact needed and if so, restore to same location but dont
overwrite!! But now, I am seeing that as the easy way out!

But it might be the way to save me some pain!
Simon 

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Douglas
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

I would find all zero byte files and delete them.  Then do a restore and
make sure you check skip file if it exists.  Any file that was not zero
bytes will not be replaced an all the files that were zero byte will be
restored.

Doug Preston

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

Im getting 2 problems now

1) Status 227 in the GUI
2) Exit Status 100: System error occurred

I have had to re-do the file again. Its worse than I first thought, and
file sizes of each file is roughly 10 - 50MB per file!
So a restore to same location is needed.

Jeff, I may need some advice, as the file structure (paths where the
files are located) have spaces on and no spaces. Some also exceed 256
characters, which is going to prove an issue!

The date is also from a Month end backup 23rd Dec 2010.

Any advice, is apprecaited. I have the Command Window out, so I am
getting somewhere, but not fully restoring. :( S.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-18 Thread Preston, Douglas
1 word of warning on this,  make sure they are not using some kind of
disk-extender app on the server
If they are then the zero byte files may be correct on the server and there
is a disk layer process that will call the real image or doc from a
different location.

Doug Preston
Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1447
EmailĀ  dlpres...@lereta.com


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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

Doug
Funny enough, I was thinking of the same thing (ie: delete files, verify
if they were infact needed and if so, restore to same location but dont
overwrite!! But now, I am seeing that as the easy way out!

But it might be the way to save me some pain!
Simon 

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Douglas
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:56 PM
To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

I would find all zero byte files and delete them.  Then do a restore and
make sure you check skip file if it exists.  Any file that was not zero
bytes will not be replaced an all the files that were zero byte will be
restored.

Doug Preston

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Simon (external)
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 3:56 AM
To: Lightner, Jeff; bob944; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

Im getting 2 problems now

1) Status 227 in the GUI
2) Exit Status 100: System error occurred

I have had to re-do the file again. Its worse than I first thought, and
file sizes of each file is roughly 10 - 50MB per file!
So a restore to same location is needed.

Jeff, I may need some advice, as the file structure (paths where the
files are located) have spaces on and no spaces. Some also exceed 256
characters, which is going to prove an issue!

The date is also from a Month end backup 23rd Dec 2010.

Any advice, is apprecaited. I have the Command Window out, so I am
getting somewhere, but not fully restoring. :( S.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-18 Thread bob944
R.I.P., Reading Comprehension.

sheesh


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-16 Thread Lightner, Jeff
If his list of files only contains the zero byte filenames he doesn't
need to restore to alternate directory.  It will only restore the files
he specifies in the list. 

He has already indicated he can't go to an alternate path he doesn't
have to if he specifying the files he wants to restore rather than
entire directories.  Of course he may have said that based on restoring
the entire backup rather than restoring individual files that he has
identified.

It is however very important he read and understand the bprestore man
page for the -f.  From what he wrote he already knows the files he needs
to restore so building his file list shouldn't be that hard.   However,
there are instructions in the man page regarding files with spaces in
their names that he may need to be cognizant of if he has any like that.


We use the -f listfile specification on a regular basis (mainly on
UNIX/Linux) but don't usually have spaces in file names OR are doing
entire directories.  

One can also use the -R alternatepathfile specification to redirect to
alternate paths.   If the list of files to be restored is small enough
that it will fit in an alternate path he might want to do a test run
using both -f and -R to verify it only restores the files he wants.  If
so he could then run it again with just the -f so that it puts the files
he wants in their original locations.   (Which would be simpler than
manually moving them all back over the original.)

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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:46 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

 Got a File Server with a share that is approx 400GB and contains
 millions of files.
 San Media Win2k3 Sp2  NBU 7.0.1 talking to a 7.0.1 Master
 
 Problem: We have identified 40,000 files, of various types (ie:
 word, excel, jpeg, bmp, pdf) that are ZERO bytes. They appear to
 have been like this for 4 months [...]
 
 1) Files are scattered across various folders / subfolders that are
 in use
 2) I cant just restore everythink back to its original location,
 because there are files that have been recently used and amended

Restoring from a file of filenames (as has been suggested), to a
different directory, would be my preference.  Then maybe script a
comparison between the list of zero-byte files and the ones you have
restored...

If that is impractical and you have a backup of the current state of
the server, zero-byte files and all, you could 
a) rename/move/delete the zero-byte files and 
b) restore the entire share to original location but do NOT check
Overwrite existing files.  You should get 40,000 restores and
(millions - 40,000) file exists messages in the log.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-15 Thread Nic Solomons
Hi Simon,

Am I missing something? Why not just use cli  - bprestore with the -f option? 
I'm on my mobile, so don't have the rest of the syntax to hand, but other than 
the over write flag, and some date qualifiers, that should be all you need...

Cheers,
Nic

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Date: Fri, Apr 15, 2011 08:29
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu


Hi,
Got a File Server with a share that is approx 400GB and contains millions of 
files.
San Media Win2k3 Sp2  NBU 7.0.1 talking to a 7.0.1 Master

Problem: We have identified 40,000 files, of various types (ie: word, excel, 
jpeg, bmp, pdf) that are ZERO bytes. They appear to have been like this for 4 
months

As luck would have it, I have them on tape, but here is the problem:

1) Files are scattered across various folders / subfolders that are in use
2) I cant just restore everythink back to its original location, because there 
are files that have been recently used and amended

3) I have a file output that has identified 40,000 files that are zero bytes!
4) Cant do a restore to different location ... do not have enough disk space. 
Its over 400GB in size. Otherwise I would have done this.

Without painfully going through each of the various folders / subfolders, does 
anyone have any ideas or is there a way I could feed in my output file to NBU 
to restore from a tape of last years backup?

Started yesterday, and only done a few hundred !!!
Any ideas or suggestions, would be apprecaited.

Regards

Si

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-15 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Nic
Isnt -f restore to an alternative location. Something I cannot do as I
do not have the space.

And I cant just overwrite everything, as alot of the files within the
folders and subfolders have been used and accessed.

Perhaps I am missing something then? 

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From: Nic Solomons [mailto:nic.solom...@attenda.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:19 AM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

Hi Simon,

Am I missing something? Why not just use cli  - bprestore with the -f
option? I'm on my mobile, so don't have the rest of the syntax to hand,
but other than the over write flag, and some date qualifiers, that
should be all you need...

Cheers,
Nic

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From: WEAVER, Simon (external) simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net
Date: Fri, Apr 15, 2011 08:29
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu


Hi,
Got a File Server with a share that is approx 400GB and contains
millions of files.
San Media Win2k3 Sp2  NBU 7.0.1 talking to a 7.0.1 Master

Problem: We have identified 40,000 files, of various types (ie: word,
excel, jpeg, bmp, pdf) that are ZERO bytes. They appear to have been
like this for 4 months

As luck would have it, I have them on tape, but here is the problem:

1) Files are scattered across various folders / subfolders that are in
use
2) I cant just restore everythink back to its original location, because
there are files that have been recently used and amended

3) I have a file output that has identified 40,000 files that are zero
bytes!
4) Cant do a restore to different location ... do not have enough disk
space. Its over 400GB in size. Otherwise I would have done this.

Without painfully going through each of the various folders /
subfolders, does anyone have any ideas or is there a way I could feed in
my output file to NBU to restore from a tape of last years backup?

Started yesterday, and only done a few hundred !!!
Any ideas or suggestions, would be apprecaited.

Regards

Si

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-15 Thread Lightner, Jeff
No.  The -f file allows you to specify a file that contains a list
of files to restore.   


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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:46 AM
To: Nic Solomons; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

Nic
Isnt -f restore to an alternative location. Something I cannot do as I
do not have the space.

And I cant just overwrite everything, as alot of the files within the
folders and subfolders have been used and accessed.

Perhaps I am missing something then? 

-Original Message-
From: Nic Solomons [mailto:nic.solom...@attenda.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:19 AM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

Hi Simon,

Am I missing something? Why not just use cli  - bprestore with the -f
option? I'm on my mobile, so don't have the rest of the syntax to hand,
but other than the over write flag, and some date qualifiers, that
should be all you need...

Cheers,
Nic

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Date: Fri, Apr 15, 2011 08:29
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu


Hi,
Got a File Server with a share that is approx 400GB and contains
millions of files.
San Media Win2k3 Sp2  NBU 7.0.1 talking to a 7.0.1 Master

Problem: We have identified 40,000 files, of various types (ie: word,
excel, jpeg, bmp, pdf) that are ZERO bytes. They appear to have been
like this for 4 months

As luck would have it, I have them on tape, but here is the problem:

1) Files are scattered across various folders / subfolders that are in
use
2) I cant just restore everythink back to its original location, because
there are files that have been recently used and amended

3) I have a file output that has identified 40,000 files that are zero
bytes!
4) Cant do a restore to different location ... do not have enough disk
space. Its over 400GB in size. Otherwise I would have done this.

Without painfully going through each of the various folders /
subfolders, does anyone have any ideas or is there a way I could feed in
my output file to NBU to restore from a tape of last years backup?

Started yesterday, and only done a few hundred !!!
Any ideas or suggestions, would be apprecaited.

Regards

Si

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoration Issue

2011-04-15 Thread bob944
 Got a File Server with a share that is approx 400GB and contains
 millions of files.
 San Media Win2k3 Sp2  NBU 7.0.1 talking to a 7.0.1 Master
 
 Problem: We have identified 40,000 files, of various types (ie:
 word, excel, jpeg, bmp, pdf) that are ZERO bytes. They appear to
 have been like this for 4 months [...]
 
 1) Files are scattered across various folders / subfolders that are
 in use
 2) I cant just restore everythink back to its original location,
 because there are files that have been recently used and amended

Restoring from a file of filenames (as has been suggested), to a
different directory, would be my preference.  Then maybe script a
comparison between the list of zero-byte files and the ones you have
restored...

If that is impractical and you have a backup of the current state of
the server, zero-byte files and all, you could 
a) rename/move/delete the zero-byte files and 
b) restore the entire share to original location but do NOT check
Overwrite existing files.  You should get 40,000 restores and
(millions - 40,000) file exists messages in the log.


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