Re: Explaining Versions' activation process
Hi Dirk, is the information (name and emailaddress) send unencrypted? I wouldn't know how to intercept it (and other apps might send sensitive information unencrypted as well) but others might. I donot expect your servers to go away, but I recently had the very bad experience with some piece of software from Big Robot L.L.C ( www.bigrobotsoftware.com), which still sells it but doesn't answer questions for support any more. The programmers appear to have gone away… and without updates/bugfixes it is useless to me. Greetings, Rolf 2008/11/19 Dirk Stoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought it would be helpful to give everybody who is concerned about Versions' activation system some insight in the actual design of the system and our rationale behind developing it. … When you register Versions, the app contacts our registration server, which —given you entered a valid license code— returns license data that's then stored in a file locally on your computer. This license file is tied to the computer it was registered with, which is the only way to make pirating the software harder than simply copying this license file to another machine. (It's stored in ~/Library/ Application Support/Versions by the way, the file is named License, you can open it up with any text editor to see what's in there). The only —to humans— usable information that's sent to the registration server are the contents of the name and email fields from the registration window. What we can do with that personal information is strictly limited, for the end-user's protection, in the Versions license agreement. … I hope this clears everything up a bit. If you still have concerns or questions about Versions' online activation, feel free to get back to me on- or off-list. All the best, -Dirk the Versions team -- Rolf Schmolling Historiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Explaining Versions' activation process
On Nov 19, 9:01 am, Rob Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The concern I have is that if the companies behind Versions cease to make enough money to be viable, what happens when AppleCare puts a new logic board in my mac 5 days after all your servers have been shut down? Hi Rob, If we ever have to shut down our registration server, our first priority is to get an update to Versions out doesn't rely on it. We are both running our software companies (Sofa and Pico) because we enjoy making things that people enjoy to use. The fact that people actually buy our software doesn't only make us proud, it also makes us aware of the responsibility we have to let them continue using it. That responsibility won't simply go away if both of our companies ever seize to exist. Every single person who worked on Versions would feel pretty horrible if they knew nobody would be able to re-register the app anymore, so it's in our interest too to make sure that never happens. The only thing I can add to this is to ask you for your confidence. We've never dropped the ball when a beta was about to expire, now that people are actually paying for Versions our responsibility has only become bigger. :) - Dirk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Explaining Versions' activation process
On Nov 19, 9:34 am, Rolf Schmolling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dirk, is the information (name and emailaddress) send unencrypted? I wouldn't know how to intercept it (and other apps might send sensitive information unencrypted as well) but others might. Hi Rolf, your personal information and the resulting license data is sent back and forth over an encrypted SSL connection. It's more likely for a man-in-the-middle attacker to get your name and email address by intercepting actual emails you're sending (most people don't have their email accounts setup to use SSL by default). I donot expect your servers to go away, but I recently had the very bad experience with some piece of software from Big Robot L.L.C (www.bigrobotsoftware.com), which still sells it but doesn't answer questions for support any more. The programmers appear to have gone away… and without updates/bugfixes it is useless to me. That's a vaild concern, all I can say is that we're not planning to stop supporting or updating Versions any time soon. During the public beta we have done our best to give everybody the best possible expierience, which sometimes meant scrambling to get a new beta out when we'd made a stupid decision or mistake (like for instance, dropping support for SVN 1.4 in beta-5 — oops..). We never charged for the beta releases because we didn't feel comfortable asking people for money for something that we didn't consider ready enough yet. Now that people are actually paying to use our software, we're only taking our job more seriously. Cheers, - Dirk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Explaining Versions' activation process
On Nov 19, 12:57 pm, kapowaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] What I'd like to know is what happens in the case of installing Versions on two separate computers? [...] Hi kapowaz, that's possible. You can even register Versions on more than two computers. For the exact terms, please see my post about the updated EULA over here: http://groups.google.com/group/versions/browse_thread/thread/b37e39709b5e382d - Dirk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
