[VFB] Preayers needed now please
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Re: [VFB] Sparrow
This is what I needed. I have split thread a few times and it was not always easy. Since I use a lot of Uni-thread now I know why. I will look for a pattern and give this a try again. Thanks Henk and Hans. Mike On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Hans Weilenmann wrote: > Henk already addressed your question. Most tying threads split readily. A > notable exception is Uni-thread, which is 'bonded' thread - a resin is > incorporated with the filaments, essentially glueing them together into a > 'round' thread. The bond can be broken, with nail-edge pressure for > example, but certainly is not the easiest thread which comes to mind when > planning to do split thread techniques ;-) > > My staple thread is Benecchi 12/0 (also available in 6/0, 8/0, and 10/0) - > I find it consistent, quite strong. and it twists and untwists/flattens - > key characteristics for doing split thread - very easily. > > Cheers, > Hans > > You have a Friend in Low Places > Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands > http://www.danica.com/flytier > = > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [VFB] Sparrow
I have some Gudebrod 8/0 and 10/0 and I am building up my nerve to try splitting them. If I can do it , anyone can. Thank You, Alan Di Somma From: Henk Verhaar Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 1:45 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Sparrow I'm not Hans, but I have been known to split hairs, errr thread too. Not all flies require split-thread (dubbing techniques). Split-thread dubbing is an alternative to dubbing-loop techniques that can offer superior results wherever it is a viable alternative. My prime example is the split thread dubbing-and-CDC-fibers (clamp transfer technique) caddis pattern popularized (and possibly invented - I haven't researched that) by Marc Petitjean. All non-monofilament threads can be split, some easier than others. In general, non-twisted non-bonded threads are easier to split than bonded, twisted, or bonded-twisted threads. Danville flymaster e.g. is very easy, Gudebrod 6/0 and 8/0 (currently only available as Orvis thread?) are easy, UNI threads need to be untwisted and 'unbonded' and take significantly more effort. My personal favourite if I want to tie with split-thread techniques are the Gudebrod threads, for ease of splitting coupled with overall quality. Henk On 31 mei 2013, at 10:31, Michael Bliss wrote: Hans, Do you split all threads or are there ones that you prefer? Mike On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Hans Weilenmann wrote: Hi Alan, Thanks for letting me know on the Sparrow, and how that worked out ;-) On splitting thread - I know you will come to think and wonder how you ever got on without it - I know I do. Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:vfb-mail%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. = ><(º> === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder| tel:036 737 0218 | | Bonte Kraailaan 22 | mobiel: 06 38 279016 | | NL-1343 AJ Almere | web:www.zwemfotoos.nl/scheerkraam | = <º)>< === No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6370 - Release Date: 05/30/13 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6370 - Release Date: 05/30/13 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@goo
Re: [VFB] Sparrow
Mike: I have not had the desire to split a 12/0 thread like Hans, but I have been able to do a 6/0 I need a lot more practice to get as good as Hans. Thank You, Alan Di Somma From: Michael Bliss Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 1:31 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Sparrow Hans, Do you split all threads or are there ones that you prefer? Mike On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Hans Weilenmann wrote: Hi Alan, Thanks for letting me know on the Sparrow, and how that worked out ;-) On splitting thread - I know you will come to think and wonder how you ever got on without it - I know I do. Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:vfb-mail%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6370 - Release Date: 05/30/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6370 - Release Date: 05/30/13 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [VFB] Sparrow
Hans: This gives me a new perspective on dubbing. I did not like to spin the material on the thread because it never came out very well. I refused to dub, thinking that if I could not fine a chenille to use I would tie something else. Now with your help I will again begin dubbing. Thank You, Alan Di Somma From: Hans Weilenmann Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:12 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Sparrow Hi Alan, Thanks for letting me know on the Sparrow, and how that worked out ;-) On splitting thread - I know you will come to think and wonder how you ever got on without it - I know I do. Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6370 - Release Date: 05/30/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6370 - Release Date: 05/30/13 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [VFB] Sparrow
Henk already addressed your question. Most tying threads split readily. A notable exception is Uni-thread, which is 'bonded' thread - a resin is incorporated with the filaments, essentially glueing them together into a 'round' thread. The bond can be broken, with nail-edge pressure for example, but certainly is not the easiest thread which comes to mind when planning to do split thread techniques ;-) My staple thread is Benecchi 12/0 (also available in 6/0, 8/0, and 10/0) - I find it consistent, quite strong. and it twists and untwists/flattens - key characteristics for doing split thread - very easily. Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [VFB] Sparrow
I'm not Hans, but I have been known to split hairs, errr thread too. Not all flies require split-thread (dubbing techniques). Split-thread dubbing is an alternative to dubbing-loop techniques that can offer superior results wherever it is a viable alternative. My prime example is the split thread dubbing-and-CDC-fibers (clamp transfer technique) caddis pattern popularized (and possibly invented - I haven't researched that) by Marc Petitjean. All non-monofilament threads can be split, some easier than others. In general, non-twisted non-bonded threads are easier to split than bonded, twisted, or bonded-twisted threads. Danville flymaster e.g. is very easy, Gudebrod 6/0 and 8/0 (currently only available as Orvis thread?) are easy, UNI threads need to be untwisted and 'unbonded' and take significantly more effort. My personal favourite if I want to tie with split-thread techniques are the Gudebrod threads, for ease of splitting coupled with overall quality. Henk On 31 mei 2013, at 10:31, Michael Bliss wrote: > Hans, > > Do you split all threads or are there ones that you prefer? > > Mike > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Hans Weilenmann > wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Thanks for letting me know on the Sparrow, and how that worked out ;-) > > On splitting thread - I know you will come to think and wonder how you ever > got on without it - I know I do. > > Cheers, > Hans > > > You have a Friend in Low Places > Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands > http://www.danica.com/flytier > = > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > Mike Bliss > Aloha from Hawaii > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > = ><(º> === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder| tel:036 737 0218 | | Bonte Kraailaan 22 | mobiel: 06 38 279016 | | NL-1343 AJ Almere | web:www.zwemfotoos.nl/scheerkraam | = <º)>< === -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [VFB] Sparrow
Hans, Do you split all threads or are there ones that you prefer? Mike On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Hans Weilenmann wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Thanks for letting me know on the Sparrow, and how that worked out ;-) > > On splitting thread - I know you will come to think and wonder how you > ever got on without it - I know I do. > > Cheers, > Hans > > > You have a Friend in Low Places > Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands > http://www.danica.com/flytier > = > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
