Re: [VFB] Hai

[Allan Fish]

Omigosh.  It was contagious!  

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[VFB] QFTD

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

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Guess I am not a serious fisherman.
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Re: [VFB] Re: SALTWATER SWAP ARRIVALS

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On 11/4/15 5:23 PM, Bob Hendry wrote:
I can start re-tying this evening and have them ready to mail again by 
Friday at the latest.  That is if y'all are willing to hang loose for 
another week. 

I'm in no hurry.

af

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[VFB] Re: SALTWATER SWAP ARRIVALS

[Bob Hendry]

Hi Peggy,

I am sorry that my flies haven't arrived yet; it seems they never reached 
you.  The mail man delivered them to me today!

They were mailed Wednesday, two weeks ago today.  They suffered a severe 
mishap while in the postal system.  The soap box that I mail them in was 
crushed beyond recognition.  The note that was attached said that the 
package was discovered when a heavy load on a pallet was moved.  The outer 
envelope was shredded, but she was able to tape the return envelope 
together, and return it to me.  (BTW, only 2 flies were in the package, 
both damaged pretty badly.)

I can start re-tying this evening and have them ready to mail again by 
Friday at the latest.  That is if y'all are willing to hang loose for 
another week.  If not, please let me know.  Thanks.

Also, I tied Clouser's Deep Minnow in black & red.  Think I'll do 'em in 
the more traditional chartreuse & white this go-around

Cheers,

*Bob Hendry*

Southern Maryland

 

*The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow.*

*Do good anyway.*

 

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 6:01:59 PM UTC-4, Peggy B wrote:

> Most of the Saltwater flies have arrived and they are all very good 
> looking, I'll be field testing some of them this winter in the playground 
> for red fish, Indian River Lagoon, Florida
>
> Flies due October 31 and only 6 saltwater  swappers. A NEW due date~ 
>
> 1 Peggy Brenner EP redfish 
> 2 Alan Di Somma Rattling Red Fish Clouser var. - arrived first
> 3 Bob Hendry 
> 4 Ashley Strutt - Forest Sandell - arrived
> 5 Al Fish Electric Chicken Clouser - arrived 
> 6 Jack Harford Gurgler type Purple and black - arrived 
>
> -- 
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Re: [VFB] OFF TOPIC in the fishing groups Question???

['Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail]

Real nice work.Arkansas Tony 


 On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 5:12 PM, Chuck Alexander 
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 Folks: I recently got a new wood lathe from my wife around the first part of 
May and I’m trying to get up an inventory (most things are selling as fast as I 
can make them, which is a good thing) in order to open myself an Etsy store to 
sell things on. So farm, bowls have been the biggest seller, but I want to make 
some Christmas ornaments (see attached pics), wooden eggs (see pics), goblets 
(see pic), and lastly, my question on this email is how many here still use an 
old fashioned rolling pin for making biscuits etc.  I’m attaching a pic and 
would like to know a cpl things about the rolling pins #1, would you use it??” 
and #2 would you buy one (and NO, it’s not a sales pitch, just a survey before 
I put a lot of time and effort into making some up) if the price were right 
(probably $20 each, but they last forever, for the ones made of common woods 
like oak, poplar etc, and more if it’s made of an exotic wood that I have to 
buy the “blanks” for. I also plan to make christmas tree ornaments that look 
like snow men and christmas trees, as well as plain old round balls/spheres and 
paint them, or stain them, or burn black “rings” into them using a wire to burn 
the wood while the lathe is spinning the wood. Thanks a LOT in advance. Chuck-- 
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

['Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail]

I started kept one 25 years ago, kept it up for about 15 years. Never went back 
to read what I wrote down.Tony 


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Re: [VFB] Re: SALTWATER SWAP ARRIVALS

[Jack Harford]

That's fine Bob. N problem ;)
On Nov 4, 2015 5:29 PM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:

> On 11/4/15 5:23 PM, Bob Hendry wrote:
>
> I can start re-tying this evening and have them ready to mail again by
> Friday at the latest.  That is if y'all are willing to hang loose for
> another week.
>
> I'm in no hurry.
>
> af
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Re: [VFB] A Few Streamers

[Allan Fish]

On 11/4/15 9:57 PM, Reuven Segal wrote:

Very nice Jack. Nicely tied.

Reuven
Jack does nice work and is very creative, Reuven.  It's great to "hear" 
from you.

Okay.  "Read" from you.  

How are you doing?

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Re: [VFB] A Few Streamers

[Reuven Segal]

Very nice Jack. Nicely tied.

Reuven

On 5/11/2015 1:43 PM, Jack Harford wrote:


Playing around at the bench :)

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Re: [VFB] A Few Streamers

[Reuven Segal]

Hi:

Getting by. Haven't fished for a while. Summer is here now so hope to 
get some river time in.


Apart from that, same old same old. Hope to have good news soon all 
being well.


Regards,

R

On 5/11/2015 2:18 PM, Allan Fish wrote:

On 11/4/15 9:57 PM, Reuven Segal wrote:

Very nice Jack. Nicely tied.

Reuven
Jack does nice work and is very creative, Reuven.  It's great to 
"hear" from you.

Okay.  "Read" from you.  

How are you doing?

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Woodturning; was: [VFB] OFF TOPIC in the fishing groups Question???

[Henk Verhaar]

On woodturning

On 05/11/15 00:10, Chuck Alexander wrote:
Folks: I recently got a new wood lathe from my wife around the first 
part of May and I’m trying to get up an inventory (most things are 
selling as fast as I can make them, which is a good thing) in order to 
open myself an Etsy store to sell things on. So farm, bowls have been 
the biggest seller, but I want to make some Christmas ornaments (see 
attached pics), wooden eggs (see pics), goblets (see pic), and lastly, 
my question on this email is how many here still use an old fashioned 
rolling pin for making biscuits etc.
I’m attaching a pic and would like to know a cpl things about the 
rolling pins #1, would you use it??”
Yes. In fact, I have a number of rolling pins that I made myself. 
Including an ornamental huge pin made out of figured maple. I have a 
french pin in maple and a long straight pin (no handles) in lacewood, as 
well as a couple smaller ones. The only one that gets used on a regular 
basis is the long straight one (about 40 cm long, 5 cm diameter); used 
primarily for rolling pie dough. I also have a very long, thin straight 
one (2.5 cm / 1 inch diameter) for rolling pasta in brazilian rosewood.




and #2 would you buy one


Well, obviously, no, since I make my own, but if I didn't have a lathe, 
yes I would certainly buy one or more rolling pins. But then, I do a 
fair amount of baking, and a whole lot of cooking...

if the price were right (probably $20 each
Actually, I think a good rolling pin, made out of nice wood, could fetch 
more than that.
, but they last forever, for the ones made of common woods like oak, 
poplar
Oak, given its porous nature, would be a bad choice for a rolling pin, I 
would think, as would poplar (soft, porous, too light). I would favour 
the standards like maple, beech, or walnut.


Another nice little thingie that you can make on the lathe, that would 
be perfect to sell at an 'introductory' price level is a 'spurtle' 
(google that ;-) ), preferably with the traditional stylized Scottish 
thistlehead on top. A few burned rings at the 'grip' section would give 
'em character.


Henk

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Re: [VFB] A Few Streamers

[Allan Fish]

On 11/4/15 9:43 PM, Jack Harford wrote:


Playing around at the bench :)



Great variation on the Everett Drake Wounded Minnow!

af

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Re: [VFB] Sowbug 2016

['Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail]

That is what happened. Tony 


 On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:47 PM, Allan Fish  
wrote:
   

  
 
 I note that the dates for the Sowbug Roundup are about a month or more later 
this year in 2016 than the usual March dates. This year Next year the dates are 
for April 14, 15 and 16, 2016
  
 Yep.   I heard they didn't get the fairground reserved soon enough.
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Excellent Points Don!! Sometimes I think that with all the reasons why the
fish don't bite it is a wonder that any fish at all catch our flies. And
your points reinforce the premise that fish have certain instinctual traits
built into their character and behavior that effect how, when, and how much
they feed.

Here is Indiana, maybe about 90% of my fishing is done between 7pm and too
dark to see the fly. Partially because of my job, but mostly because of the
experience of landing about 80% of the fish during that time. It is also
nice that there is a nice smallmouth bass creek two blocks from the home.
Mornings are good too, but I am not much of a morning person :)

But again, like Don was saying, each species and even each fish is
different so the knowledge base is almost infinite. That may be one of the
attractions of this sport. There is always something more to learn.  The
possibility of a fish catching the fly increases with the number of casts,
time on the water, attention to detail, and amount learned while out there
(and in the library too).

tight lines,
Jack

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

> Nice article, but there are more than 3 or 4 things that affect fish, i.e.
> what matters to them.
>
> Not all fish behave the same way, but all need the 3 mentioned necessities
> to some degree, so I agree to a big extent.
>
> *Other factors that affect whether a fish will feed or not:*
>
> -Weather- barometric readings affect fish and feeding.
> -Lunar cycles- the moon’s cycles affect fish, therefore,
> -Day vs night activity, or light sensitivity, or night-time sleep cycles,
> or feeding on a full moon and not at all the day after.
> -Fishing pressure – related to shelter as to security, but different,
> especially if the fish are caught and released. They may think the fly is
> food, but that leader tells them not to catch it.
> -Water conditions-  pollution, run-offs (muddy), water too warm or too
> cold or changing rapidly.
> -Saltwater estuaries- tide is not right, waiting for the tide (no source
> of nourishment until the tide brings din-din to them)
> -Deep sea fish- feed is just off, not in mood to eat. Live bait doesn’t
> matter, even boinking them on the nose with it. (Time to find something in
> the cooler to wait it out or head back in.)
>
> Another good discussion. Anybody want to add anything?
>
> DonO
>
> *From:* Jack Harford 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:36 AM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] QFTD
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Here is an opinion page that was written for our fly fishing club
> newsletter on this subject. Differing opinions gladly accepted :)
>
> Tight lines,
> Jack
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> "Any man who pits his intelligence against a fish and loses has it
>> coming."
>>
>> John Steinbeck"The Fisherman's Guide to Life"
>>
>> Rick
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Yep - it happens to all of us!!

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:01 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I am sure it has happened to all of us. You tye a dozen flies at the same
> tile. All are the same pattern. Tye one on and smash the fish one after
> another. Break off and tye on another one and the fish will not touch it.
> Try another and you start catching fish again.
> Also you might be catching fish on a fly in the morning and then you go
> out in the evening and they will not touch it.
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:11 AM, Jack Harford <
> jharford.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Excellent Points Don!! Sometimes I think that with all the reasons why the
> fish don't bite it is a wonder that any fish at all catch our flies. And
> your points reinforce the premise that fish have certain instinctual traits
> built into their character and behavior that effect how, when, and how much
> they feed.
>
> Here is Indiana, maybe about 90% of my fishing is done between 7pm and too
> dark to see the fly. Partially because of my job, but mostly because of the
> experience of landing about 80% of the fish during that time. It is also
> nice that there is a nice smallmouth bass creek two blocks from the home.
> Mornings are good too, but I am not much of a morning person :)
>
> But again, like Don was saying, each species and even each fish is
> different so the knowledge base is almost infinite. That may be one of the
> attractions of this sport. There is always something more to learn.  The
> possibility of a fish catching the fly increases with the number of casts,
> time on the water, attention to detail, and amount learned while out there
> (and in the library too).
>
> tight lines,
> Jack
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:
>
> Nice article, but there are more than 3 or 4 things that affect fish, i.e.
> what matters to them.
>
> Not all fish behave the same way, but all need the 3 mentioned necessities
> to some degree, so I agree to a big extent.
>
> *Other factors that affect whether a fish will feed or not:*
>
> -Weather- barometric readings affect fish and feeding.
> -Lunar cycles- the moon’s cycles affect fish, therefore,
> -Day vs night activity, or light sensitivity, or night-time sleep cycles,
> or feeding on a full moon and not at all the day after.
> -Fishing pressure – related to shelter as to security, but different,
> especially if the fish are caught and released. They may think the fly is
> food, but that leader tells them not to catch it.
> -Water conditions-  pollution, run-offs (muddy), water too warm or too
> cold or changing rapidly.
> -Saltwater estuaries- tide is not right, waiting for the tide (no source
> of nourishment until the tide brings din-din to them)
> -Deep sea fish- feed is just off, not in mood to eat. Live bait doesn’t
> matter, even boinking them on the nose with it. (Time to find something in
> the cooler to wait it out or head back in.)
>
> Another good discussion. Anybody want to add anything?
>
> DonO
>
> *From:* Jack Harford 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:36 AM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] QFTD
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Here is an opinion page that was written for our fly fishing club
> newsletter on this subject. Differing opinions gladly accepted :)
>
> Tight lines,
> Jack
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> "Any man who pits his intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming."
>
> John Steinbeck"The Fisherman's Guide to Life"
>
> Rick
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

['Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail]

I am sure it has happened to all of us. You tye a dozen flies at the same tile. 
All are the same pattern. Tye one on and smash the fish one after another. 
Break off and tye on another one and the fish will not touch it. Try another 
and you start catching fish again.Also you might be catching fish on a fly in 
the morning and then you go out in the evening and they will not touch it.Tony 


 On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:11 AM, Jack Harford 
 wrote:
   

 Excellent Points Don!! Sometimes I think that with all the reasons why the 
fish don't bite it is a wonder that any fish at all catch our flies. And your 
points reinforce the premise that fish have certain instinctual traits built 
into their character and behavior that effect how, when, and how much they 
feed. 
Here is Indiana, maybe about 90% of my fishing is done between 7pm and too dark 
to see the fly. Partially because of my job, but mostly because of the 
experience of landing about 80% of the fish during that time. It is also nice 
that there is a nice smallmouth bass creek two blocks from the home. Mornings 
are good too, but I am not much of a morning person :) 
But again, like Don was saying, each species and even each fish is different so 
the knowledge base is almost infinite. That may be one of the attractions of 
this sport. There is always something more to learn.  The possibility of a fish 
catching the fly increases with the number of casts, time on the water, 
attention to detail, and amount learned while out there (and in the library 
too).
tight lines,Jack
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

Nice article, but there are more than 3 or 4 things that affect fish, i.e. what 
matters to them. Not all fish behave the same way, but all need the 3 mentioned 
necessities to some degree, so I agree to a big extent. Other factors that 
affect whether a fish will feed or not: -Weather- barometric readings affect 
fish and feeding.-Lunar cycles- the moon’s cycles affect fish, therefore,-Day 
vs night activity, or light sensitivity, or night-time sleep cycles, or feeding 
on a full moon and not at all the day after.-Fishing pressure – related to 
shelter as to security, but different, especially if the fish are caught and 
released. They may think the fly is food, but that leader tells them not to 
catch it.-Water conditions-  pollution, run-offs (muddy), water too warm or too 
cold or changing rapidly.-Saltwater estuaries- tide is not right, waiting for 
the tide (no source of nourishment until the tide brings din-din to them)-Deep 
sea fish- feed is just off, not in mood to eat. Live bait doesn’t matter, even 
boinking them on the nose with it. (Time to find something in the cooler to 
wait it out or head back in.) Another good discussion. Anybody want to add 
anything? DonO From: Jack Harford Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:36 AMTo: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] QFTD Hi Rick,  Here is an opinion 
page that was written for our fly fishing club newsletter on this subject. 
Differing opinions gladly accepted :) Tight lines,Jack On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 
10:27 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail  wrote:

   "Any man who pits his intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming."  
 John Steinbeck    "The Fisherman's Guide to Life"   Rick 
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Re: [VFB] Hai

[Donna Crowell]

November's long nights,
Pine bough scented air of home
Window views of stars.

 Donna

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Allan Fish  wrote:

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> Leafblowers singing
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> Portent of winter
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Re: [VFB] Hai

[Jack Harford]

Crunch crunch under foot
Greens transform brown yellow red
Brisk breeze blesses earth

Jack

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> November's long nights,
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