Re: [VFB] I'M still kickin'

[Michael Bliss]

Hey Chuck,
You have been through it but but glad you are on the mend.  Maybe if you
routed for Bama things would be better?  Just sayin'

Mike

On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 4:43 PM 'Charles Alexander' via VFB Mail <
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> Folks:  I'm still  here too. Just  haven't  felt up to it as for the last
> two yrs after covid  TRIED to kill me. I spent over 70 days in a
> coma,kidneys started shutting down etc etc. As soon as they'd fix one thing
> something else would pop up,with the latest thing being a positive
> cologuard test and I'm supposed to have the ole colonoscopy to get that
> checked out.
>
> my docs have all told me that I had the worse case of covid they have seen
> and lived to tell about it. I still cannot walk without the aid of a walker
> but God has seen me this far so I don't think He's going to fail me now. I
> did lose one of my younger brothers this last July. He went to Wal-Mart,
> got inside the door and he just feel over dead. There happened to be a gold
> sematin right there and he gave my brother CPr till the got there and
> because of that we were able. Donate my brothers organs which either saved
> the lived or improved  the lives
>
>  On a better topic, two months ago we closed on a new home and are still
> haven't finished moving which is a pain but we love the new place and it's
> only 5-10 minuites from two city parks, which are both stocked with bass
> and bluegills. And I did get to go fishing three times last Spring and we
> did fish each trip.  Then, three and six months ago respectively, we
> welcomed two new grand daughters which brings the total to 17 and 18 total
> and paw pawpaws job is to hold and spoil them. We even have one great grand
> daughter. Now, I turn 65 tomorrow, but that don't seem old enough to be a
> GREAT grandfather lol. Well, sorry for writing a BOOK here but trying to
> condense two Yrs into one email ain't easy for a blow hard like me  lol,
> Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

[Michael Bliss]

what's the name of the facebook group?

Mike

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 4:51 PM Michael Bliss  wrote:

> I'm still here.  I miss the "old" days too.  We had so many
> participating.  I am sorry that we have lost a few of our great members.  I
> appreciate Rick posting on the email site.  I did not know we had a
> Facebook presence.  I don't go there often.  I guess I will have to start
> going there.
>
> Mike Bliss
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> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:54 PM Bob Hendry  wrote:
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>> I'm still hanging on. Though I don't understand why I even bother with
>> wearing waders. Seems I spend considerly more energy trying to climb up out
>> of the creek than fishing it. Nothing worse than having cold H²O up to your
>> knees inside your waders
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Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

[Michael Bliss]

I'm still here.  I miss the "old" days too.  We had so many participating.
I am sorry that we have lost a few of our great members.  I appreciate Rick
posting on the email site.  I did not know we had a Facebook presence.  I
don't go there often.  I guess I will have to start going there.

Mike Bliss

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> I'm still hanging on. Though I don't understand why I even bother with
> wearing waders. Seems I spend considerly more energy trying to climb up out
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Re: [VFB] Re: Don Ordes

[Michael Bliss]

Oh no.  I will miss him.
Mike

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> On Dec 23, 2020, at 5:18 PM, Gary L Webb  wrote:
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> Very sad news indeed.   A good friend, a great teacher, and undoubtedly a 
> creative genius.  At times like this I turn to my faith and to music.
> Angelina Jordan's Million Miles seems appropriate.   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KxvwuZ7oEM=0  She wrote this song 
> for her grandpa after he passed away.  "it is also for any one who has lost 
> someone they loved." Angelina Jordan
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 4:37:57 PM UTC-6 Alan Di Somma wrote:
>> It is with the saddest heart that I just found out that our great friend Don 
>> passed away from a massive stroke. He did not suffer and never regained 
>> consciousness. 
>> I will be in contact with his wife Cheryl about the arrangements. I do know 
>> that because of the Corona virus there will not be any open services. There 
>> will be a virtual service, most likely via Zoom? 
>> 
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>> Sent from my iPad 
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>> Thank You, 
>> Alan Di Somma 
>> Mesa, Az. 
>> 
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. 
>> 
>> Real funny Scotty? 
>> Now beam down my clothes! 
>> 
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

[Michael Bliss]

A good friend lost at least for now. I will miss him.

Mike


On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 7:55 AM Peggy Brenner  wrote:

> For those who are not on FB, Tony died in his sleep last night.  I visited
> them at the home in early March as I was in Mountain Home for a ladies fly
> tying event. He was determined to make 90 but didn't seem to have a plan
> other than getting home after that. Going home was not an option without
> live in care, but the home was very nice and everyone knew both of them as
> the employees lived local as well.
>
> Maybe next year for Sowbug we should all meet there for a  moment of
> silence in his honor and before we all get to 90.
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> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:22 AM 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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>> Thanks for the info. Not what  I wanted to hear.
>>
>> Rick
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>> On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 06:16:10 PM CDT, Scott Bearden <
>> scott.bear...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.
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>> Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM
>> Subject: Tony Spezio
>>
>> For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had
>> to
>>
>>
>> have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
>>
>>
>> heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
>>
>>
>> law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
>>
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>> also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30
>> days.
>>
>>
>> They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
>>
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>> second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently
>> on
>>
>>
>> the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
>>
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

[Michael Bliss]

I will pray for him and give thanks that I have known him and called him my
friend.

Mike

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:16 PM Scott Bearden 
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> For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had to
> have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
> heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
> law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
> also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30 days.
> They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
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> the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
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Re: [VFB] Who remembers?

[Michael Bliss]

I wonder if I have that one stored somewhere.  Was that the one where we
drew a picture of our flies?

Mike

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> Just reread the book on the Most Memorable Fly Swap book from 2002.  Who
> else remembers this?
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

[Michael Bliss]

Shoot.  This is sad.  I feel fortunate to have known Tony and called him 
friend.  Time just keeps moving along.  It’s taking its toll on all of us.
Mike

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> On Mar 15, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Allan  wrote:
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> I received a saddening phone call from Tony today.  He was very difficult to 
> understand but he wanted me to post on the lists that he will no longer be 
> able to make rods.  He has sold his lathe and some other equipment.  There is 
> still one rod at his house he would like to sell.  I think he said he would 
> sell it for $500, but I am not certain.  He has some smaller tools available. 
>  He did not say how to get them, but if you have are interested, I have his 
> son Robert's e-mail address.
> 
> Tony said he is no longer able to read nor to use the internet.  He is very 
> weak and I could tell it took all his effort to even make the phone call.  He 
> was trying to tell me something and then just said "Bye" and hung up. Hi 
> nursing home is like most others and allows no visitors,
> 
> I am very sad to have to write this.
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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This is so sad.  Tony is such a good person.  I am certain he has a place in 
heaven

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> Tony Spezio called me tonight.  He is currently in the hospital at Mountain 
> Home.  He is suffering from congestive heart failure, massive urinary tract 
> infection, pneumonia and his kidneys are failing.   He will be in the 
> hospital several days then moved to the same nursing home that his wife Dot 
> is in.
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> For those of you who haven't heard, Dot has suffered a massive stroke and can 
> not talk.
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> I hate to say this but it doesn't look good at this point in time.
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Re: [VFB] Dot

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Tony,
What a nice Christmas present.  We shall hope and pray for continued
improvement.  Our best to you both.

Mike

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 10:16 AM Phxflytyer  wrote:

> That is such good news.
>
> See prayers do work.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
> Real funny Scotty?
> Now beam down my clothes!
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> Best CHRISTMAS gift today, I clearly heard Dot say MERRY CHRISTMAS to my
> daughter on the phone and to a nurse.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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Tony, I am saddened to hear about Dot.  I will pray for both of you.
Mike

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3:13 PM  wrote:

> That’s not good news Tony,
>
> Prayers sent!
>
> Take care
>
> Martin
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> *Van:* 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
> *Verzonden:* maandag 9 december 2019 23:02
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> *Onderwerp:* [VFB] Prayers needed
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> Prayers needed,
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> My wife Dot is in the hospital. She has been unresponsive for a couple of
> days.
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> Arkansas Tony
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[VFB] Espresso Midge

[Michael Bliss]

Does anyone have the pattern for the espresso midge?

Thanks

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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed myself

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They are coming your way Chuck.  Hope you feel better soon

Mike

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> Folks: Speaking of prayer request, I could use some as well. I have
> walking pneumonia. Started about 2 weeks and so I went to see my doc and
> they gave me shots of antibacterial, as well as a steroid shot. Then, he
> called me in some Ampicillin  and a Methylprednisolone Z pack, so It took
> those for 8 days and 6 days respectively. Finished both of the (along
> with Robitussin) meds, yet my cough is staying and today had been worse
> than ever. I have an appt to see him this Thursday, but it feels like I’m
> hacking up my lungs. Just last night I coughed s hard I pulled a
> muscle in my abdomen. Anyway, hopefully he can give me something that
> works this tin. Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

[Michael Bliss]

I have missed JimmyD on the group.  He was a very fun contributor here as
we started on this journey from flyfish@ many years ago.  He and I shared a
love for Philmont.  He also was involved with antique golf clubs.  I had
some from my dad and he helped me get a valuation on them.  Just a nice
person.Like Murph I am sure he is in good hands now and no more pain.
Prayers will go out to his family.  It is sad to have another of our group
pass on.

Mike

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:08 PM Gary Webb  wrote:

> Check this on Nick Runarrson's site.  He has an original of Jimmy's poem.
> /fftf 
> http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com
> fpoem.htm
> 
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 8:51 PM Gary Webb  wrote:
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>> IOFF  International Order of Flytying Fanatics
>> Jimmy D Moore,
>> No Moore
>> Except in our Hearts
>> ForeverMoore
>>
>> Not as good as Jimmy D.  What can I say.
>>
>>   I wrote this poem about the time the VFB bunch came up with the
>> International Order of Fly Tying Fanatics.  Hope you enjoy it.
>>
>> JIMMY D
>>
>> *A FLY  TYING  FANATIC*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * Cotton balls, wine corks, tow sacks, I save'em all. Craft beads,
>> sparkle rope, doll's eyes, I'm walkin tall. Mosquito net, you bet!  And
>> it's already green, don't have to dye it.  Just try it.  You'll see what I
>> mean. Sewing thread, parrot feathers, and purple yarn. I'll use most
>> anything, and don't really give a darn. Closed cell foam and balsa wood.
>> Anything goes. Why I've even used the lint from between my toes. Candle
>> wax, bee's wax, ear wax, I use'em all. Soda straws, model paint bought at
>> the Mall.*
>>
>>   j
>> *avalina hair & belly hair from an Armadillo. Why I even use eider down
>> from my pillow.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * Longhorn tail hair, my hair and hair from my cats.  I'll even use belly
>> hair from a free-tailed bat. Black Visqueen sure makes good beetle backs.
>> Cut'em out, glue'em on, hang'em on the rack. Thus is the life of a fly
>> tying fanatic. Could I use the fiberglass insulation from my attic? I throw
>> away nuthin.  I keep all kinds of stuff. With my kind of  fly tying,
>> there's never enough! By  JIMMY  D. MOORE August 23, 2005 ©  *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *I remember so many swaps Meistered by Jimmy D.College colors, NASCAR,
>> and the Jody Courage Swap.Gary L Webb *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 5:06 PM Allan Fish  wrote:
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>>> I tried to reply last night on my iPad - it must have been rejected.
>>>
>>> This was a really saddening notice.
>>>
>>> Jimmy was a remarkable person.  For those of you who didn't know him, he
>>> retired from the Boy Scouts of America as the Executive (that's the Big
>>> Kahuna) of the over 140,000 acre Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico.
>>> My very questionable
>>> memory is telling me he was there 23 years.
>>>
>>> After retirement, he became the Outdoors Writer for many newspapers in
>>> Texas.  He also wrote a hilarious fishing book (I'd have to go upstairs
>>> to get it to remember the title) in the same vein as Patrick McManus.
>>>
>>> I miss Jimmy D.
>>>
>>> Prayers to Jody.
>>>
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Re: [VFB] Jimi - Desert Eagle

[Michael Bliss]

he was so active on the list in the beginning.  it is sad see our list
friends move on but I guess we all will.  I hope his family is well.

Mike

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> Sorry to hear this.
>
> Rick
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> On Friday, September 6, 2019, 12:13:05 PM CDT, Rene Zillmann <
> rene.zillm...@t-online.de> wrote:
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>
> Flytyers,
>
> many of you know Jimi, I met him twice at the Sowbug.
>
> Found this sad news today.
>
> https://www.westfuneralhomellc.com/obituary/james-genzling?fh_id=13587
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> May he rest in peace
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> Rene
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Re: [VFB] Wow... You folks are still posting to this forum

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Way to hit and run Byard.  We miss you.  Hope the birds are still fun.  
Mike 

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Re: [VFB] DonO still has his sense of humour

[Michael Bliss]

Nice picture!


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:
> 
> DonO  Thats the abbrev. GTMB. 
> 
> Nev   I am laughing with the noise of a drain in rain !
> 
> DonO  Your laugh rhymes?
>   
>   I laugh with the pain, hope there's some gain in my brain, so I 
> don't go insane.
>   
> 
> Nwev  A poet as well朗!
> 
> DonO  I couldn't restrain myself. 
> 
> Nev   Good to see that you still have a sense of humour !
> 
> DonO  Not much else works. 
> 
> Wife, daughter and grandkids, son & DIL. And the pups.
> 
> 
> 
>  a large scotch. It may not make the paingo away but a least you can enjoy 
> the scotch a large scotch. It may not make the pain go away but a least you 
> canhe scotch a large scotch. It may not make the pain go away but a least you 
> can enjoy the scotch keep plugging  along for 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> these guys:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wife, daughter and grandkids, son & DIL. On Yahoo or Bing, check Don Ordes - 
> fantasy flies/images, and tell me what you think. My fly legacy if I can't 
> make it happen again.bout 2/3 shown.
> 
> 
>  a large scotch. It may not make the pain go away but a least you can enjoy 
> the hand, daughter and grandkids, son & DIL. And the pups.
> 
> 
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Re: [VFB] Prayers welcome

[Michael Bliss]

We will certainly offer prayers in their behalf.
Mike

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 4:19 PM Joyce M Westphal  wrote:

> Prayers for all three indeed.  They are having excellent care which should
> give you some comfort. Joyce
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 12:44 PM Chuck Alexander <
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>> Rene: I'll keep them all in my thoughts and prayers. Ppl are surprised to
>> learn how preemie that babies can be so early and still be viable. One of
>> my best friends here  when his first grand baby was born at 5 1/2 months
>> and the baby was the  soda of a 12 soda can and weighed only 16 ounces.
>> Well, yes, she has to stay in the neonatal ICU for a few months. But today
>> at 5 1/2 yrs old, she's of average weight, height, healthy as a horse  and
>> even played T ball baseball this yr, Chuck
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Rene Zillmann
>> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 1:29 PM
>> To: vfb Mail 
>> Subject: [VFB] Prayers welcome
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> some of you know my youngest daughter Anna. She attended with me the
>> sowbug some 14 years ago. In the meantime a nice and very intelligent young
>> lady, she is married and is working as a lawyer in the area of food safety.
>>
>> She was pregnant with twins, and yesterday she had to give birth. It was
>> no as scheduled, and way too early. They need to do an emergency-caesarian
>> within few minutes, luckily she was already in one of the best hospitals
>> which is specialized for preterm delivery.
>>
>> All 3 are alive, Anna is doing well but still suffers from the rather
>> rude treatment.
>>
>> The 2 babies  are stable but are on risk. The hospital are able to help
>> when it happens after a certain duration of the pregnancy, and the babies
>> are exact on this day - not even one day extra. Each baby has one nurse
>> which is exclusively monitoring this single child. as they work 8h shift
>> and monitoring is needed all the time, this are 3 nurses for one baby. Just
>> to give you an impression where we are.
>>
>> We pray that this turns out well.
>>
>>
>> Rene
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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?

[Michael Bliss]

I can wait for you if you’re up to trying. Wish some medicine would work
for you though.
Mike

On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:05 PM DonO  wrote:

> To all pink squirrel swappers. So sorry to make you wait so long.
> My hand is finally coming around to where I can tie once more. Tried a few
> times – awful and slow results. 2 min fly takes an hour plus.
> Very slow recovery from a couple of nightmare nerve pain medications –
> side effect almost killed me.
> But I Can finally hold the bobbin again, with the sleeves.
>
> The long-term is still questionable except for pain. But I am still
> trying. Trying a new therapy- promising results.
>
> Alan has offered to finish the swap for me, but I’d like to finish it, as
> it will probably be my last swap.
>
> Pl
> ease let me know what you want me to do.
>
> Regards,
> DonO
> *From:* Tony 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:06 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?
>
> Thanks you all, I feel humble.
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, January 27, 2019, 3:51:34 PM CST, Chuck Alexander <
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Sounds good to me, Chuck
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:18 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?
>
>
>
> Or just not get one of our own back.
>
> Rick
> --
>
> *From:* DonO 
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?
>
>
>
> Hi Tony, nice to hear from you.  I figured you were busy with health
> issues and silent because you didn’t need another swap to stress you out.
> So sorry about that.  Thanks for the info and for being around for us. Sure
> hope you’ve gotten ahead of this new problem in time. Will keep you in my
> prayers.
>
>
>
> I can maybe send you a group of extra PSQN flies if that would work for
> you.  I’ll bet the guys won’t have a problem tying one more for you.
>
>
>
> *Eh Guys,* *19 instead of 18?  One for the Tiger?*
>
>
>
> DonO
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:07 PM
>
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info
>
>
>
> Been following this. Wish I was able to  do it. Right now I am too tied up
> with doctors.
>
> Have therapists and nurses that are here every day of the week for therapy
> and to bandage wounds that have now appeared on my other foot. That is the
> same as started on my left foot that lead to amputation.
>
> Arkansas Tony
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 3:32:40 PM CST, Chuck Alexander <
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Don: Look at bright side. As long as I’m in the swap, the worst you could
> do is second to last LOL. Seriously, hope to rope dub mine, Chuck
>
>
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *DonO
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:32 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info
>
>
>
> *Welcome all* to the fly swap and *thank you.*
>
> I will do my best on my batch and hopefully I can tie something worthy to
> toss at fish.
>
>
>
> Hope to create & post a fly plate photo when done.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Don
>
>
>
> *From:* DonO 
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:00 PM
>
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info
>
>
>
> Mail flies to: 14505 N. Presidio Loop, Nampa ID 83651
> 
>
> SASE or equal. Add toe-tags.
>
> Don
>
>
>
> *From:* DonO 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2019 8:48 PM
>
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- Final Swapper List etc.
>
>
>
> Not too late Donna- you’re spot #18.   ;o)
>
> See list below.
>
>
>
> *Since VFB traffic* is not an issue nowadays, do y’all want to keep swap
> correspondence on list, or take it off.  All posts for the swap will have
> the subject line PSQN SWAP.
>
>
>
> *So we have 18 flies due by Feb. 28th.*  Does that work?  Can submit
> extras or design efforts for charitable donations.
>
>
>
> Rest of details to follow shortly.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Donna Crowell 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2019 7:34 PM
>
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
> Squirrel Nymph
>
>
>
> Is it to late to sigh up ?
>
>
>
>  Donna…...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:51 PM ladyflytyer  wrote:
>
> Oh good I made the swap.
>
>
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: DonO 
> Date: 1/25/19 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel
> Nymph
>
> Thanks Jack.
>
>
>
> 

Re: [VFB] Mike Bliss

[Michael Bliss]

Yes, I sent an email a while ago but since I am in Hawaii visiting the
email may have not made it to land.
Mike

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:12 AM DonO  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> got 5 spots in my swap left. You interested? May be my last swap- have to
> see how I do.
> Pink Squirrel Nymph
> Don
>
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Re: [VFB] Bob H - PSN

[Michael Bliss]

So I may have missed the list of who is in the swap.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 23, 2019, at 10:20 AM, DonO  wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> So are you in?
> DonO
>  
>  
>  
> From: haerb...@comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; rene.zillm...@t-online.de
> Subject: Re: AW: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
> Nymph
>  
> What is this swap about?  Who is hosting?  What are we tying?
> 
> BobH
> 
>> On January 19, 2019 at 3:09 PM rene.zillm...@t-onlne.de wrote: 
>> 
>> Hi Don,
>> Sure, 100 tiers.
>> R
>> Rene
>>  
>> Gesendet mit meinem HTC
>> 
>> - Nachricht beantworten - 
>> Von: "DonO"  
>> An:  
>> Betreff: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph 
>> Datum: Sa., Jan. 19, 2019 20:12
>>  
>> This is filling pretty quick.
>> Does anyone have a cut-off point, how many tiers max?
>> (The PSQN is a simple pattern, so tying a few extra should do your arsenal 
>> well.)
>>  
>> I’m still working on holding on to a fly rod without being able to feel it 
>> in my hand.  Good side of that- cheap fly rods ‘feel’ just like high dollar 
>> ones.  I’m going to make a lanyard to attach the rod handle butt end to my 
>> wrist.
>> 
>>   
>> Tiers:   (as of 1/19 am)
>>  
>> 1.  Rick Zieger
>> 2.  Allan Fish
>> 3.  Neville Gosling
>> 4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
>> 5.  Don Ordes
>> 6.  Renr Zillman
>> 7.  Gary Webb  *1
>> 8.  J Balmer
>> 9.
>> 10.
>>  
>> *1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper- hard to remember 
>> details of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection 
>> box, locate your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a 
>> giant red salmon egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).
>>  
>> Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole 
>> while sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN 
>> would be a good choice then.)
>>  
>> *2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.  
>> (Tenkara approach)
>>   A dark pink or red bead could also serveas the yolk of a hot pink 
>> egg collar.
>>  
>> DonO
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: DonO
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:14 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
>>  
>>  
>> Howdy All,
>>  
>> I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need 
>> to keep my energy up.
>>  
>> I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate 
>> for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it 
>> and have probably fished it.
>>  
>> If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this 
>> pattern!
>> 
>>  
>> Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)
>>  
>> 1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
>> 2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
>> 3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
>> 4.  Broad range of quarry fish
>> 5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose
>>  
>> 6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
>> 7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for 
>> a collar per the photo archives)
>> 8.  Gold or silver bead
>> 9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern
>>  
>> 10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
>> 11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
>> Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something 
>> special. (Story?)
>>  
>> Any extra flies will be donated to good charity.
>>  
>> Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.
>>  
>> All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
>> with a common theme.
>>  
>> Any VFB swappers left?
>> Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
>> have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> DonO
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
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Re: [VFB] Mike Martinek

[Michael Bliss]

Glad you’re okay. Wetumpka had such a great downtown and I understand it’s all 
gone.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2019, at 10:38 PM, Chuck Alexander 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mike: Yeah, the nearest one we know if went 50 miles South of us. But you 
> should see those pics. The First Presbyterian Church of Wetumpka was about a 
> 3 story tall building made of huge stones and it is totally flattened. I mean 
> flattened,. They said the building has stood for 163 yrs I think it was, Chuck
>  
> http://www.wsfa.com/2019/01/20/first-presbyterian-church-destroyed-pastor-reflects/
>  
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Flyfisher2
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:06 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Mike Martinek
>  
> Chuck,
>  
> I am in Hawaii and met a guy from Prattville.  He told me that Alabama got 
> pasted by tornados.  Are you okay?
>  
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jan 22, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Chuck Alexander  
> wrote:
> 
> Ron: I see. I’m in Alabama so we don’t have salmon or other fish besides 
> large mouth bass that would need those type flies.  And for bass I usually 
> just tie a good sized wooly bugger pattern and/or a Clouser minnow. However, 
> the largest bass I have ever caught on a fly was a 4 ½ pounder I caught on a 
> sized 14 fly LOL.Thanks, Chuck
>  
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
> Boutin
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 6:21 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Mike Martinek
>  
> Mike was not a VFB member but a well known tyer. He specialized in streamers 
> and knew all about their history. I think he may even authored a book on the 
> subject. He tyed at many of the shows.  I watched him tie a few times,
>  
> Ron
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jan 20, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Chuck Alexander  
> wrote:
> 
> Peggy: Who are you talking about. Mike Martinek?? I’ve been in this group 14 
> yrs (I think LOL) now and don’t remember ever seeing that name here. Was he a 
> lurker?? Go by another name etc etc?? Chuck
>  
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> ladyflytyer
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 5:59 PM
> To: 'KP' via VFB Mail 
> Subject: [VFB] Mike Martinek
>  
> For those who knew him from the shows he passed a week or so ago at 72. He 
> had lived in assisted living for the past 5 years unable to get around, life 
> in the e fast lane caught up.
>  
> Peggy B
>  
>  
>  
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Michael Bliss]

Joyce, if you try it on the Provo and it works well let me know.

Mike

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 3:10 PM Joyce M Westphal  wrote:

> That should be Roag Hog for Loch Roag.  If I have done it correctly, here
> it is from the magazine. Joyce
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 12:43 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:
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>> Joyce:
>>
>> Would you be able to post a picture of that fly. I do not get the
>> Flyfishing & Tying mag.?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Mesa, Az.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Joyce M Westphal 
>> wrote:
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>> Nice fly.  I often use Aunt Lydia's rug yarn, single strand as a post.
>> Currently finishing up so Road Hog flies, but need to find some more dark
>> deer hair.  These flies were in the Flyfishing and Tying journal and I
>> think will work well on the Provo.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 10:48 AM Rene Zillmann 
>> wrote:
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>>> Gang,
>>>
>>>
>>> hm,.. sorry, that I did not answer any of your posts. Was wondering that
>>> nobody was answering my question about your tying  I do not get the
>>> mails.
>>>
>>> Just checked in google groups, and saw a lot of answers. Strange that I
>>> do not get the mails, even not all of mine...
>>>
>>> Rene
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
>>> >
>>> > What are you doing to tie next?
>>> >
>>> > I'll do 2 main things:
>>> >
>>> > I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body
>>> > colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.
>>> >
>>> > And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>>> >
>>> > And what are you doing?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Rene
>>> >
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Re: [VFB] hello vfb!

[Michael Bliss]

Yay, good to have you back Mart.

Mike

On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 3:07 PM MartinWestbeek 
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> Hi gang,
>
> I don’t know what’s happened but years ago all of a sudden I was no longer
> able to respond to emails in this group. So when I received the last few
> mails I thought – let’s give it a shot. And hey – it works again. Not AWOL
> any longer.
>
> So I’ll join the conversation again from time to time. Thanks!
>
> Mart
>
>
>
>
>
> *Van:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] *Namens
> *DonO
> *Verzonden:* zondag 11 november 2018 21:13
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> Coming through in IDAHO
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> *From:* MartinWestbeek 
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> Testing2
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> Preparing to tie some Usuals at our first pub session Tuesday.
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> What is in your vices?
> 
>
> "J Balmer" : Nov 10 09:59AM -0600
>
> I will be tying tomorrow, spent part of yesterday organizing materials
> etc. redoing to entire basement one square @ a time
>
> J
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Rene Zillmann
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 6:31 AM
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?
>
> Hi Nobody tying? Or is the list dead?
>
> Rene
>
>
> On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
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> > And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>
> > And what are you doing?
>
> > Rene
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> Soft hackles this winter, then red fish flies for TexasPeggySent from my
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>  Original message 
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> Date: 11/9/18 2:50 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?
>
> Ok, nobody is tying any fly?Running out off hackle?R.On 11/02/2018 09:13
> PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:> Hi,>> winter is approaching - at least in the
> northern part of the globe.>> What are you doing to tie next?>> I'll do 2
> main things:>> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different
> body > colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.>> And
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Michael Bliss]

I have been tying euro nymphing flies.  Several Lance Egan nymphs.
Mike

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> On Nov 3, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
> 
> I will be tying my Bronze and Silver award flies for FFI. I've kept putting 
> this off, but we are headed to the S Padre area of Texas for winter and I'll 
> be fishing for reds, so have to tie those first, but they are fast and easy.
> 
> Leaving after the Catskill Show this coming weekend. After winter we are 
> heading wet to Utah, then up to Henry's Lake in Idaho for a month, Bozeman 
> for the Faire and then on home.  At the end we will have RV'd to the lower 48 
> and traveled to all 50 states, because we are wintering so far west I'm not 
> making Sowbug next year, but I'll be thinking of you all.
> 
> Peggy B
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 4:13 PM Rene Zillmann  
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
>> 
>> What are you doing to tie next?
>> 
>> I'll do 2 main things:
>> 
>> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body colors, 
>> to the the effect of the various colors next year.
>> 
>> And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>> 
>> And what are you doing?
>> 
>> 
>> Rene
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Michael Bliss]

When you are in Utah let us know and we can at least have lunch if not fish
Mike

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> On Nov 3, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
> 
> I will be tying my Bronze and Silver award flies for FFI. I've kept putting 
> this off, but we are headed to the S Padre area of Texas for winter and I'll 
> be fishing for reds, so have to tie those first, but they are fast and easy.
> 
> Leaving after the Catskill Show this coming weekend. After winter we are 
> heading wet to Utah, then up to Henry's Lake in Idaho for a month, Bozeman 
> for the Faire and then on home.  At the end we will have RV'd to the lower 48 
> and traveled to all 50 states, because we are wintering so far west I'm not 
> making Sowbug next year, but I'll be thinking of you all.
> 
> Peggy B
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 4:13 PM Rene Zillmann  
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
>> 
>> What are you doing to tie next?
>> 
>> I'll do 2 main things:
>> 
>> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body colors, 
>> to the the effect of the various colors next year.
>> 
>> And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>> 
>> And what are you doing?
>> 
>> 
>> Rene
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Re: [VFB] Great news

[Michael Bliss]

Way to go Tony.  Don't overdo but keep going.

Mike

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:10 PM 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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> Day 4 at home, great to be here.
> Have to learn some new ways to do some things but I will do that.
> I did attend the FFF Fly Fair for a few hours on Friday, found I was too
> shakey to tie.
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 10:14:03 AM CDT, Michael Bliss <
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> We love you Tony
> Mike
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> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 7:46 AM Phxflytyer  wrote:
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> TNX Allan
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
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> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
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> > On Oct 6, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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Re: [VFB] Great news

[Michael Bliss]

We love you Tony
Mike

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> TNX Allan
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> Thank You,
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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I think that is a boost to him.  I hope he can handle this change.  We care
about him.

Mike

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:38 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> I just got a call from Tony.  He called Sunday and said that he felt
> like the walls are closing in on him.  He has not been home for 3
> months.  But today they told him he can go home a week from tomorrow.
> He is really excited.
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Re: [VFB] Note from tony Spezio

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yay Tony.  Keep improving.  Great to hear from you.

Mike

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Jack Harford  wrote:

> Good to hear from you Tony!!!
> Take care and God bless
> Jack
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> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 3:53 PM 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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>> Did good with PT today, might be able to go home by the end of the month.
>> Just on the computer to reply
>> Tony
>>
>> On Thursday, September 6, 2018, 2:45:02 PM CDT, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB
>> Mail  wrote:
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 5, 2018, 7:54:18 PM CDT, Phxflytyer <
>> phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
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>>
>> Great news.  TNX Allan.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Mesa, Az.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 5, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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>> > Tony called tonight.  He was tired from his P.T. but said he has had a
>> couple of really good days,
>> >
>> > He has not had his computer hooked up for over two months and it would
>> be very inconvenient for him to hook it up in his room, so he asked me to
>> thank everyone for all the cards, letters, and phone calls he has been
>> getting.  He wanted everybody to know he has really appreciated them.
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Re: [VFB] Iowa State Fair

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nice job

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> Here is a picture of the Dr. Mike. Purple haze is basically a purple Adams.
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> yes, congratulations but where is the pic of the fly?
>
> Mike
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> The Iowa State Fair has  a flytying contest sponsored by the Hawkeye
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> Got second place in the open division and third in the dry fly division.
> Entered as Kevin Slater won a few things last year.
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Re: [VFB] Iowa State Fair

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yes, congratulations but where is the pic of the fly?

Mike

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Re: [VFB] Update

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Tony,
That is bad news.  But there is good news.  Lots of people admire and love
you.  I am sure you will find a way to somehow work through this and still
love life.

Mike

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 7:39 PM Joyce M Westphal  wrote:

> So sorry to hear t his, but hoping that you will be fitted with a
> prosthesis as soon as possible. Prayers my friend.
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Chuck Alexander <
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>> My daddy lost his left foot in a motorcycle, but once they got him the
>> correct prosthesis he could outrun me in a foot race, Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *Rene Zillmann
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:49 PM
>> *To:* 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Update
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Bad messages have often positive components. Even if the situation is bad
>> and horrible, they can do something to improve it. And today, if just a
>> foot is missing - I know about more horrible things.
>>
>> Even with a missing foot, you might be able to fish from the dock.
>>
>> I wish you all the best and you are in my prayers. Send my best wishes
>> also to Dot.
>>
>> Rene
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>>
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>> On 07/21/2018 08:42 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail wrote:
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>> Was taken to the Wound Center yesterday to see my foot doctor.
>>
>> I am not happy with he had to tell me. Not enough blood circulation to
>> save the foot.
>>
>> The surgery will be done when my kidneys are stable enough for the
>> surgery. I personally am not ready for this.
>>
>> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] (From Tony). Fwd: Tried to send, Bounced

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Our hopes and prayers are with him. We want him well and around for years
to come.

Mike

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:52 PM Rene Zillmann 
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> Hi Tony,
>
> best wishes from Germany
>
> Klara and Rene
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> p.a. no answer needed
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> On 07/15/2018 02:25 AM, Allan Fish wrote:
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> *From:* Anthony Spezio 
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> *Subject:* *Tried to send, Bounced*
>
> I want to thank all for the cards prayers a d good wishes. I still have a
> long way to go to recovery.
> My tying days are about finished but I had a good 30 + years of it.
> I will be staying on the list but will not be active. I still have about
> another month in the nursing home.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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Please keep us informed.  He is one of the worlds good guys.  If you talk
to him let him know that we care and are praying for him.
Mike

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 12:45 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> Tony is currently having some pretty severe complications.  He's been in
> the hospital for a week and will likely be in for at least another week
> then will have to go to a nursing home for rehab.  He preferred that I not
> go into details on the list.
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> *He has some requests for everyone*:
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> 1)NO CALLS TO HIS HOME -  Dot is getting overwhelmed with local
> calls and she is not in the best of shape either.
> 2)NO CALLS TO HIS CELL PHONE AT THIS TIME - he is having trouble
> talking and breathing and it totally exhausts him.
> 3)NO E-MAILS  AT THIS TIME -   Tony has no access to e-mails while
> he is in the hospital.  The last time he was in the hospital, he had
> received so many e-mails that he wasn't even able to read them and doesn't
> want that to happen again.  He hopes to be able to use his laptop once he
> gets in the rehab facility.
> 4)NO CARDS AT THIS TIME - they would have to go to the hospital
> and then get transferred, or they would go to his home and someone would
> have to go out there to get them and then bring them to him.
>
> After Tony gets moved, he will let us know the best way to contact him.
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> If you pray, he appreciates being kept in our prayers.
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Re: [VFB] PRogress from Don Ordes

[Michael Bliss]

Don,
It is nice to see you have progressed.  We are hoping and praying for a
full recovery.

Mike B

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:07 PM, DonO  wrote:

> To all my friends on vfb..  THANKS FOR ALL OFF YOUR PRAYERS AND WELL
> WISHES.
>
> it's me, well, a good part of me anyway.
> The stroke hit my right half (left side of brain) so lost all movement and
> feeling on right side of my body.
> also lost the vision on right side of both eyes.
> so I'm typing with left hand with a small arc of vision.  This is my 1st
> email work since stroke.
>
> I've been home two weeks now and am progressing with therapy and recovery
> very well according to therapists.
> Using my right hand for some things, but still have no feeling, which is
> weird.
> I am doing some walking therapy, but again no feeling.  Hope all feeling
> comes back with time.
>
> Still have appt. with eye doctor next week. Hope he can do something.
> Don't know about the numbness in my face, will have to check later- big
> fallout
> of that is drooling at times, and then the constant numbness..
>
> Had to sell the new home we just bought to get a single level.  All went
> amazingly fast and well. Will post new address soon.
>
> Can't tell you how much of a blessing it is to have a fantastic wife who
> stepped up to the plate as hit nothing but homers since that night.  My
> incredible sister came up from Mesa as has been an a incredible helper for
> both Cheryl and me.
>
> Alan DiSomma is due here Sunday and we will be discussing my fly business
> and what of mine to sell. Plus we'll discuss fate of video projects.
>
> All input is welcome.  Have no idea on what I'll recover after time, but I
> have a lot to get sold to simplify and cover meds.
>
> Well, at the limit of my endurance for now.  Took over an hour for this 5
> minute email.
>
> As you can imagine, I have a lot of recovery time on my hands, so reading
> emails from my friends would be much appreciated and great for my mental
> therapy.  Hope you are all having wonderful summers.
>
> Very Best Regards,
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Neville Gosling
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: VFB
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes
>
> This is a real blow after he was looking so good following loosing weight,
> but time heals and lets pray that he recovers as fully as possible.
> I have a friend in my fishing club that also suffered a stroke that was
> followed my more strokes and it came as a complete shock to everybody. He
> like Don is still in hospital.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> BC Canada
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2018, at 10:58 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> In my prayers
> Arkansas Tony
> 
> On Tue, 5/1/18,   wrote:
>
> Subject: RE: [VFB] Don Ordes
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 12:47 PM
>
> Hello to everyone, this is his
> son, Donny.
>
> Thank you so
> much for all the kind well wishes and words. I was able to
> open Don's email and we read all of your messages to
> him, as he is unable to read much.  He asked me to thank
> everyone and to say hello.
>
> He is still recovering in the therapy unit of
> St. Al's hospital in Boise. When he had the stroke he
> lost the use of the right side of his body. So his arm and
> hand, leg, and even his vision on the right half of his body
> were all affected (he can see out of both eyes, but only
> from his nose to his left side). Unfortunately he is right
> handed, so using his left hand for everything is also
> difficult by itself.
>
> However, he is steadily making progress in his
> recovery and has regained the ability to move his limbs and
> use them to some extent. He still requires a great deal of
> assistance to get up and move, but the therapists are
> optimistic that he will continue to improve. Only time will
> tell how much capability he will recover. He is scheduled to
> be released from the hospital to go home this Thursday, but
> we will continue with having therapists come in to work with
> him to help with his rehab.
>
> Again, thank you all  for your kind words and
> support, I will continue to monitor his emails and forward
> your thoughts and questions to him.
>
> Thank you.
>
> DVO
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> On Behalf Of Rene Zillmann
> Sent: Tuesday,
> May 1, 2018 8:58 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes
>
> All,
>
> are there any updates on Don?
>
> KR
>
> Rene
>
>
> On 04/23/2018 03:44 AM, Phxflytyer wrote:
>
>> Fellow VFB’ers..
>>
>> About two weeks ago
>>
> Don Ordes had a stroke.
>
>> He finished the
>>
> Wasatch show and was preparing to go home on Sunday.
>
>> Sometime Saturday evening or Sunday
>>
> morning he had a stroke.
>
>> Was in ECU for
>>
> a week and his son came and drove him home.
>
>> He is going thru physical therapy now back
>>
> in Idaho.

Re: [VFB] Nice Mr. Mailmam

[Michael Bliss]

Don,

Still have not received my flies from the swap.

On another note I was really bummed that I did not get to see you at your
tying station a couple of weeks ago.  I was tied up with my dad's house
getting stuff out of the house so I can sell it.  My wife would not have
been pleased if I had left her there.

Mike

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 8:48 PM,  wrote:

> The other envelopes will be delayed a couple of days, but are on the way.
> I need Mike Bliss' snail-mail address still. My fault, lost it (with a lot
> of gray matter ram cells).
> Thanks,
> Don
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Allan Fish
> Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 3:57 PM
> To: VFB 
> Subject: [VFB] Nice Mr. Mailmam
>
> I opened my mail box (remember old-fashioned snail mail?) and an envelope
> was in it, begging for me to open it.  So I did.
> Lo and behold it was full of rope-dubbed flies!
>
> All flies were beautiful and well made.  (Obviously I didn't get one of my
> own back..)
>
> Many thanks to DonO for hosting the swap.
>
> And a great  big Thank You to all participants for participating.
>
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Re: [VFB] Nice Mr. Mailmam

[Michael Bliss]

Don,
Mike Bliss
640 St Andrews Drive
Midway UT 84049

Mike

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 8:48 PM,  wrote:

> The other envelopes will be delayed a couple of days, but are on the way.
> I need Mike Bliss' snail-mail address still. My fault, lost it (with a lot
> of gray matter ram cells).
> Thanks,
> Don
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Allan Fish
> Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 3:57 PM
> To: VFB 
> Subject: [VFB] Nice Mr. Mailmam
>
> I opened my mail box (remember old-fashioned snail mail?) and an envelope
> was in it, begging for me to open it.  So I did.
> Lo and behold it was full of rope-dubbed flies!
>
> All flies were beautiful and well made.  (Obviously I didn't get one of my
> own back..)
>
> Many thanks to DonO for hosting the swap.
>
> And a great  big Thank You to all participants for participating.
>
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Re: [VFB] Mike Bliss - Wasatch Show

[Michael Bliss]

I was going but I have been caught up selling my dad's home.  I may try to
get there friday afternoon or Saturday afternoon.

Mike

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:01 PM, <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

> Mike, will you be at the Wasatch Fly Expo?
>
> Anyone else plan on going?
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Michael Bliss
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 21, 2018 4:51 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Jig Hooks Question
>
>
>
> No expert here but since taking up Euro Nymphing I have tied on jig
> hooks.  They are almost all 60 degree.  According to Lance Egan the reason
> he uses the jig hooks is because it causes the hook to ride point up.  I
> have found them good for hookups
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Wes Wada <wada@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi VFB!
>
>
>
> Hope all goes well.
>
>
>
> I saw an idea about the use of a jig hook for suspended fly patterns that
> I am investigating.  Up to now, I have not favored suspended patterns
> because they seem to have very poor hooking qualities.  A close friend, an
> excellent flyfisher, came to the same conclusion.
>
>
>
> However, I aim to maintain my fool's status and want to see If I can
> correct the problem.
>
>
>
> Can anyone tell me why the upright hookeye part of jig hooks come in
> varying angles?  The most common is the 90-degree, but hook manufacturers
> make 30 and 60-degree models.  Why?  What is the effect of changing that
> angle?
>
>
>
> --weather report--
>
>
>
> We are finally getting some snow accumulation in Bend, Oregon.  Up til a
> week ago, much of the US west has been very dry, like 50% of normal
> historical snowpack.  But we have made some gains so prospects of a major
> drought, fires, low water, stressed fish etc. get pushed further out.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wes Wada
>
> Bend, Oregon
>
>
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Re: [VFB] Jig Hooks Question

[Michael Bliss]

No expert here but since taking up Euro Nymphing I have tied on jig hooks.
They are almost all 60 degree.  According to Lance Egan the reason he uses
the jig hooks is because it causes the hook to ride point up.  I have found
them good for hookups

Mike

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Wes Wada  wrote:

> Hi VFB!
>
> Hope all goes well.
>
> I saw an idea about the use of a jig hook for suspended fly patterns that
> I am investigating.  Up to now, I have not favored suspended patterns
> because they seem to have very poor hooking qualities.  A close friend, an
> excellent flyfisher, came to the same conclusion.
>
> However, I aim to maintain my fool's status and want to see If I can
> correct the problem.
>
> Can anyone tell me why the upright hookeye part of jig hooks come in
> varying angles?  The most common is the 90-degree, but hook manufacturers
> make 30 and 60-degree models.  Why?  What is the effect of changing that
> angle?
>
> --weather report--
>
> We are finally getting some snow accumulation in Bend, Oregon.  Up til a
> week ago, much of the US west has been very dry, like 50% of normal
> historical snowpack.  But we have made some gains so prospects of a major
> drought, fires, low water, stressed fish etc. get pushed further out.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Wes Wada
> Bend, Oregon
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Re: [VFB] Don . . . . Buggers should arrive today

[Michael Bliss]

Very nice job on the video.  My flies should be there soon too.

Mike

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Neville Gosling 
wrote:

> That’s good. I was thinking possibly something was wrong. I guess he has
> other things on his hands right now! I am sure we will hear from him in
> good time.
>
> PS great Video.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:
>
> On 1/10/18 12:37 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
>
> Hey Jack:
>
> Have you heard from Don lately? I have not had any response since before
> Christmas. Possibly computer problems or sick?  This is not like Don.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>
>
> I got this from Don on Monday.  His son is now doing drone videos.  The
> caster in the video is the much-smaller-than-he-used-to-be DonO himself.
>
> af
>
>
>
> Mr. Fish,
>
> Thought you might like to see this new video.
>
> Any rope-dubbing questions yet?
>
> DonO
>
>
> *From:* Donny Ordes [mailto:dvoford...@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2018 10:47 AM
> *To:* Don Ordes  
> *Subject:* New drone video
>
> ​
>
> * High Above Idaho HD V1.0.mp4
> *
> ​
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Re: [VFB] Merry Christmas

[Michael Bliss]

A Very Merry Christmas to all my friends on the list

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, JERALD CARUSO  wrote:
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> Merry Yule to All.
> 
> Jerry C
> "All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
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Re: [VFB] Rope-dub bugger swap

[Michael Bliss]

I got mine done.  Not as nice as I would like but 

Mike Bliss

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:57 PM, DonO  wrote:

> FRIENDS,
>
> Well the move is finally over and we’re settling in.  Getting the house
> set up will take weeks at least.
>
> You can start sending in the rope-dub buggers and I will start dividing
> them up and posting progress photos.
>
> *Rope-dub bugger swap list – 12 tiers:*
>
>
> *1. Don Ordes *
> *2. Rene Zillmann*
> *3. Wayne Blake-Hedges*
> *4. Allan Fish*
> *5. Rick Zieger*
> *6. Peggy Brenner*
> *7. Bob Hendry*
> *8. Neville Gosling*
> *9.  Pete Gramp*
> *10. Jack Hartford*
>
> *11. Jay Balmer12. Mike Bliss*
>
> Don Ordes
> 3715 S. Twin Springs Way
> Nampa, ID 83686
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Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

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I got it and waiting for some additional instructions.  I found one I want to 
try.  
Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:46 AM, DonO  wrote:
> 
> Rope-buggers,
>  
> Only got one reply on bugger palettes post.  Did it get through to everyone?
>  
> DonO
>  
> From: DonO
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:25 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Rope-buggers Picture Palettes
>  
> Wooly-bugger swappers:
>  
> As I promised, here’s some choices of rope-dubbed wooly-buggers.  Sorry for 
> the delay, home staging and visiting is a real routine-buster.
>  
> These are samples showing how rope-dubbing can be used with different kinds 
> of body materials, hackles, synthetics, furs, etc. to achieve different looks 
> for different fishing.
> Pick one, zoom in, and see if you can re-create what I did as a rope-dub 
> method.   A lot of styles are represented, so you may want to try something 
> new for your box. Ask for materials if you can’t identify them.
>  
> 
> 
>  
> Hang on to your flies for a while before you send, as we just got an offer on 
> the house and should contract this week.  Don’t know when we’ll actually 
> move, so won’t know the address to send them to for a bit.  Latest closing 
> date will be Jan 8th.  Will post my new address when we are ready.
>  
>  
> <-164674920514A3DCE2.png> 
> Rope-dub bugger-swap samples
> VIEW SLIDE SHOW   DOWNLOAD ALL
> This album has 2 photos and will be available on OneDrive until 1/12/2018.
> <9611746251BC3195A.png>
>  
> DonO
>  
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Re: [VFB] Late 2017 Bugger swap list.

[Michael Bliss]

I will jump in on this one.

Mike Bliss

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 3:14 PM, DonO  wrote:

> Rope-dub bugger swap list – half-way there already.
>
> So far:
>
> 1. Don Ordes
> 2. Rene Zillmann
> 3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
> 4. Allan Fish
> 5. Rick Zeiger
> 6.
> 7.
> 8.
> 9.
> 10.
>
> Getting Jim Moore to join in would make the list nostalgic, and filled
> with IOFF members.
>
> DonO
>
>
> *From:* 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:05 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro
>
> I will join doing a purple one.
>
> Rick
>
>
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> *Subject:* [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro
>
> *Anyone up for a November or Dec. fly swap?* (after the season is over)
>
> I have an idea for 10 tiers.  Tie an easy fly design that I give- *a
> rope-dub bugger pattern*, and each swapper ties *one color* of it 10
> times. (I’ll post a collage of a wide range of styles)
>
> Each color can be a different size and embellished with flash, eyes,
> cones- whatever, but the bugger basic style must be maintained.  Since
> there are combination of colors, the selection would be infinite.  Natural
> furs count as colors.
>
> This would allow big bass buggers, trout buggers, panfish buggers, even
> pike and saltwater buggers. A chili-pepper would even pass.  But each color
> or combo must be by one tier, so there’s no repeats.
>
> I will post a picture palette of styles and colors to give some food for
> thought, and then *we tie one on*. Then we get to tying actual flies.
> (TUI flies are still acceptable)
>
> If this one runs over the number, that’s fine, since variations are
> endless and buggers work for everything.  I have salt-water rope-dub
> jack-buggers that are just killer in Florida bays. (Ask Jerry Goldsmith)
> Just a rope-dub (highly segmented, tapered) bugger tied with bite tippet
> with flash green and blue materials.
>
> I thought a *new twist* would be to post your pilot-pattern on VFB for a
> comment session to get thoughts.  Then if a VFBer wants to join or just
> post their comment or even their version (photo), that would make for a
> real fun swap with lots of participation that wouldn’t be time-consuming at
> all.
>
> Any takers?
>
> DonO
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Re: [VFB] Charlie Spezio update

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Wonderful.

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> GREAT news  a.f.
>
> From Robert Spezio's Facebook page:
> 
> Robert Spezio
> 
>
> We went to the hospital yesterday morning before heading back home and got
> a big surprise. As we walked in he was up sitting on the side of his bed
> with his legs of the side by himself and seemed to understand most of what
> we were talking about; and I just called and talked to his nurse and she
> said he his doing the same today.  They did a wound treatment on his foot
> and the graft is looking great.  Thank you all for your thoughts and
> prayers, they are working.  He still has a long road ahead of him but it is
> getting shorter everyday.
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Re: [VFB] SPEZIO UPDATE

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Thanks for keeping us informed Alan.  Prayers will continue.

Mike

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Joyce M Westphal  wrote:

> Wonderful. Prayers for complete recovery continue.
> Joyce
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:08 PM, J Balmer  wrote:
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>> Beauty! Glad things are going better for him and the family.
>>
>>
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Allan Fish
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 2, 2017 2:01 PM
>> *To:* Panfish ; VFB <
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>> *Subject:* [VFB] SPEZIO UPDATE
>>
>>
>>
>> Charlie Spezio (Tony's son) had another surgery today.  I don't know if
>> it is his last or not.  His sister (Gina) posted the following on Facebook
>> about an hour ago:
>>
>> Again, THANK YOU all for the prayers and positive thoughts. They are
>> working! We were just informed that the surgeon was able to do the least
>> complicated procedure of which he originally thought he was not going to be
>> able to do. Thank God. The procedure was still a high-risk surgery, however
>> recovery should be a little easier on Charlie and he is already finishing
>> up (no 12 hour surgery!) The surgeon said that we should know in a week if
>> he was able to save Charlie's lower leg and foot. So thankful for all of
>> the love that our family has been receiving.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Allan Fish
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Re: [VFB] Tony & Dot

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Again Tony.  This is not the end,  There is more - much more.  If she is
like you she will be happy in her new home.  She will miss you like you
miss her but she will understand perfectly that life will go on and she
will have eons of time with you in the future.  I think of you a lot.  I
offer my heartfelt sorrow for your loss but have complete faith in the
future.

Mike

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> She was laid to rest Friday. She was 37 years old.
> Tony
> 
> On Thu, 6/15/17, ladyflytyer  wrote:
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>  Subject: [VFB] Tony & Dot
>  To: "'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail" 
>  Date: Thursday, June 15, 2017, 7:24 PM
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>
>
>  Just a quick note to let everyone know that Tony
>  ¨ have lost a Grand daughter.
>  Peggy  B
>  Lee Vining, CA
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Re: [VFB] Brenners travel route

[Michael Bliss]

Looks like you are quite a bit south of here but if you travel this far
north in Utah send me a note.  I am sure that I can show you some nice
areas to fish.

Mike

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Peggy Brenner 
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> Today is liftoff and we are off first to the Shady rest in NJ for a pizza
> cooked by Bob Popovics, I've heard about this place for years so now we are
> stopping for dinner.
>
> Then we head for Bull Shoals via Nashville, Dallas for the day of May 3,
> Carlsbad caverns and onward.  No midwest this trip it is a big loop.
>
> Maracopia AZ 5/17-5/21 I have a sister there but could see more
> Williams AZ 5/28-5/31
> KOA Cannonville/Bryce 5/31-6/3
> Thousand Lakes Torrey UT 6/3-6/7
> Moab Valley RV UT 6/7-6/11
>
> Then over to California and north, we are a month in Montana in 3 or 4
> locations
>
> So if you are in the area my cell phone is 603-320-3056 <(603)%20320-3056>
> we may not fish everywhere
>
> Peggy
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Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today

[Michael Bliss]

Received my dry and streamer flies today.  Thanks again to Peggy  and to
all the tyers.  Ya'll did a mighty fine job.

And Peggy if you get close to us here in Utah on your travels let us know
and maybe we can wet a line together.

Mike

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> On 4/13/17 10:23 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:
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>> I ignored your fly if that will make you feel better?
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Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today

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We appreciate you

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> Yes I did, will get them posted before we head out.
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>> did you say you have some pictures??
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>>> and had several packages so they went on their own.
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Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

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Post the url when you are done.  It should be fun to watch

Mike

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:59 PM, DonO  wrote:

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>
> Well, I surprised myself. My old eyeballs are still up to it.  3 -naked
> eye #32 RCs.
>
> [image: P1010094][image: OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA][image: P1010138]
> [image: P1010084][image: P1010088]
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> Making a tying video for You tube, worked on it today.  Should post next
> week. Technically difficult to film.
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[VFB] Jelly rope

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http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sportsmans/Spirit-River-Jelly-Rope/productDetail/Fly-Tying-Misc/prod008754/cat101067#gridContainer

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Re: [VFB] Jelly Rope

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And you can't find it there, tell me how much you want and I will buy it
here and send it to you.

Mike

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> Hobby Lobby had it here in Utah as well as JoAnns
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> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Reuven Segal <beer...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Judging by the size of some of your flies, DonO, you could probably use a
>> 3/4'' silicon tube.
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>> I’m having trouble finding jelly rope in* clear*. Does anyone have any
>> spare to sell or know of where I can find some?
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Re: [VFB] Jelly Rope

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Hobby Lobby had it here in Utah as well as JoAnns

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Re: [VFB] Edson Tiger Eyes source

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I read this that may help.  I remember Chris from the flyfish@ site.  "A
couple of years ago while tying at the Dutch fly fair, I was lucky enough
to meet Chris Helm, who had for sale, the Edson Brass eyes.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Peggy Brenner  wrote:

> I'm looking for some of the small round eyes, look like brass for making
> up Edson Tigers. I've seen them in catalogs in the past by not recently,
> any ideas?
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Re: [VFB] Test messdage

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I am thinking right now I could be hitting golf balls instead of snow
balls.  To make this fishing related, my neighbor in Hawaii was sure the
record bonefish would come from Hawaii.  There aren't as many as other
areas but they are big.

Mike

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> On 1/24/17 12:03 AM, Michael Bliss wrote:
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> I have over 3 feet of snow in my yard.
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> Mike
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> Sounds like you're starting to miss Hawaii about now.  :-)
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Re: [VFB] Test messdage- bugs

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I think I will give this a try.  I like hot foods so right up my alley.
Thanks

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> Hi Mike,
>
> I’m not an herbal cure pusher by any means, but I do know this from
> personal experience.  I used to get bugs whenever they came around.
> Totally separate and un-connected, I taught myself how to cook Cajun dishes
> and Indian curry decades ago.  I liked them really hot, so I indulged my
> self to the point of sweating when I ate. (I thought I killed Gerry
> Goldsmith in a restaurant one time when he tiny-taste-tested mine) Curious
> things happened after I started with the hot food on a consistent basis. I
> ceased getting sick from bugs, even though everyone around me was sick from
> days to weeks and lingering on.  This was before the internet, so I wasn’t
> able to go ‘on line’ for information.
>
> People told me at that time that Mexican people don’t get many bugs or
> stomach ailments because of the hot peppers they eat.  So I put two and two
> together and decided to test it.  When my kids came home from school with a
> bug, I fixed them up a batch of ‘fire-cracker shrimp’, so cayenne
> pepper-hot it made them sweat.  They’d take a hot shower afterwards and go
> to bed and bundle up.  When they woke up in the morning, bug gone and they
> felt great. They ate medium warm stuff all the time, so the extra pepper
> didn’t wreak havoc on their systems.
>
> I’ve found that it kills other viruses also, so I take 3 cayenne capsules
> a day in addition to the hot food.  Used to get ear infections all the time
> & went on anti-biotics, and screwed my digestion system up for months. Now
> I never get them. Flus go around constantly & I never get sick- haven’t
> lost a work-day to bugs in over 30 years. Have never gotten a vaccine.
> Never worry about mosquito-born bugs. As soon as the ‘hit’ me, they
> incinerate with a little puff of smoke.  My body is hostile territory for
> invaders- I have my own version of ‘The Wall’.
>
> Just FYI.  Food & spice as medicine- what a concept.
>
> The cayenne also thins my blood and helps fight high blood pressure, kinda
> like acidizing the pipes.  My BP last night was 118/77, not too bad for
> 65.  And I eat too much salt and way too many meat fats.  I’m still
> fighting high blood sugar, but working on different aspects to help out.
> Hope to keep off insulin and cayenne is beneficial.  Google it up if you
> want.  Not my first priority, but an added benefit and part of why I take 3
> capsules a day.
>
> It make be a short-cut to the “warmth” you need.  ;o)  If you don’t
> already eat a lot of hot foods, take it slow.  Don’t hammer your system
> into shock.
>
> DonO
>
> *From:* Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:03 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Test messdage
>
> I would be out occasionally as I love winter fishing but a stupid viral
> infection has gotten into my ears after spending a month elsewhere.  I hope
> all out there are in better health.  I can't wait for warmth.  I have over
> 3 feet of snow in my yard.
>
> Mike
>
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>> Hi Allan:
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>> Well at least you are still there! I thought that I must be disconnected!
>>
>> Neville
>>
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>>> Water is hard (or at least it should be at this time of year).  Folks
>>> must be hibernating.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Is everyone there?
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Re: [VFB] Test messdage

[Michael Bliss]

I would be out occasionally as I love winter fishing but a stupid viral
infection has gotten into my ears after spending a month elsewhere.  I hope
all out there are in better health.  I can't wait for warmth.  I have over
3 feet of snow in my yard.

Mike

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>> Water is hard (or at least it should be at this time of year).  Folks
>> must be hibernating.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [VFB] Dry Fly / Streamer Swps -- pattern

[Michael Bliss]

Glad that you are feeling better Al.

Mike

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Peggy,
>
> I can now tie a fly (sometimes two) before my shoulder starts hurting.
> YIPPEE!
>
> I'll get them to you in a week or so, however I will NOT guarantee what
> they look like. :-(
>
> Al
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Re: [VFB] Dry Fly / Streamer Swps -- pattern

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Peggy,

Did you get my flies?

Mike

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> I love the Spruce, look forward to seeing them.
>
>
> Peggy
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> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Rene Zillmann 
> wrote:
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>> Hi Peggy,
>>
>>
>> I've decided to ty a spruce as streamer, and a Pont d'Audemer as dry.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Rene
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Re: [VFB] Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy?

[Michael Bliss]

Pete,

I found this on the net - www.troutnut.com/common-name/207/*White*-*Gloved*
-Howdies

and
http://www.current-works.com/how-to-tie-fly/tilt-shoot-iso-isonychia-pattern/

Hope this helps

Mike



On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 3:37 PM, DonO  wrote:

> Pete, I had a Hank Roberts ‘Domino Nymph’ years ago, looked like the
> black-topped white-bottomed flies you see here, but without any hackles.
> Worked great in small Wyoming creeks.
> I had the weave down at one time, but that was decades ago, would have to
> start over. I tied them with a tapered lead wire front thorax underbody
> that I squashed with a needle-nose, then wove over it. Not sure if that was
> what Hand did, but the fly looked right and sank well in holes.
> This may be what he was using, with or without the hackles.  Don
>
> [image: s-l1600[2]]
>
>
> *From:* Pete Gramp 
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 31, 2016 3:38 AM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [VFB] Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy?
>
> Anyone ever hear of a pattern called a "Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy"?
>
> Passed by my local pond and saw another fly fisher there (rare) just
> reeling them in (very rare), hand over foot, thankfully catch and releasing
> or I'd need to find myself a new local pond to fish - he was catching that
> many - but when I stopped by to ask what he was using, he gave a sly grin
> and said an older pattern called the "Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy".  I
> shouldn't be as surprised as I am, but seeing as it was a fellow who looked
> fresh out of puberty, pimples and all, I was a bit surprised he was using
> an older pattern.  He never did let me get a look at the fly, so I'm on a
> "quest" of sorts, to find a pattern recipe and example photo to get an idea
> of what the end product should look like and how to tie it.
>
> Thanks, gang, any help is appreciated!
> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap update

[Michael Bliss]

Thanks Peggy,

I  am doing Mickey Finn.  Should be done shortly,

Mike

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Peggy Brenner <ladyflyt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let's also have a streamer swap, open pattern of tyers choice, flies due 
> February
> 15, 2017
>
> Send to  266 N River Rd
> Milford, NH 03055
>
> 1. Peggy Brenner Gray Ghost
> 2  Don Ordes- assorted large streamers
> 3  Wayne Blake-Hedges
> 4  Jack Harford
> 5  Michael Bliss
> 6  Bob Hendry
> 7  Rene Zillmann
> 8  J Balmer
> 9  Joyce Westphal Jack Gartside softhackle
> 10 Allan fish
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[VFB] Streamer swap

[Michael Bliss]

Peggy,

I can't find the streamer swap email.  How many streamers and your address.

thanks,

Mike

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Re: [VFB] Dry Fly Swap Arrivals 11/22/2016

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My dry flies are ready - Dry Pheasant Tail Variant

As soon as the streamers are ready I will send them.

Mike



On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Peggy,
>
> I'll be doing Elk Hair Caddis.  I have to tie simple stuff right now
> (rotator cuff repair).
>
> Happy Thanksgiving.
>
> Allan
>
>
>
> On 11/23/16 4:38 PM, Peggy Brenner wrote:
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> Everyone agreed to 12 for Dry Flies, if you send your pattern to
> ladyflyt...@gmail.com I'll make up a list and send final details!
>
> Let's do Classic Dry Flies, tyers choice of pattern.  I'm limiting to 10
> participants with flies due February 15, 2017
>
> 1. Peggy Brenner
> 2  Martin Westbeek
> 3  Tony Spezio
> 4 Don Ordes
> 5  Mike Bliss
> 6  Pete Gramp
> 7  Wayne Blake-Hedges  Hendrickson dry
> 8J Balmer
> 9  Rick Zieger ARRIVED -
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> 11 Bob Hendry
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Re: [VFB] Lively legz

[Michael Bliss]

I like the way they look on stones and some nymphs.  Not so much on the
midges.  I might have to try these for some stoneflies.

Mike

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> These Lively Legz are meant for nymphs, I believe, not hoppers, with all
> due respect.  Perhaps we're speaking of two different products / leg types?
>  http://livelylegz.com/collections/lively-legz shows what they look like.
> Respectfully,
> -Pete
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I find hoppers work the best in early fall, end of July, first of August,
>> and then fished right along the banks, never in the middle of the stream
>> for me. Joyce
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Let me know.  I am going to look for some sheets of silicon.  I have the
>>> foam sheets and now to get the cutters.  Have you fished hoppers much in
>>> Utah?  I have only had limited success.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use the 2 mm foam sheets and mark them with Permapen to my liking,
>>>> usually with spots. I am going to experiment with the sheets you use for
>>>> the backs of the nymphs and also with the slick Baxter IV bag material.
>>>> This will take place after the Christmas fly boxes are finished..only 5
>>>> dozen more flies to go.  I will let  you know how the IV bag ones work
>>>> after I've tried it. The material of the bags is very similar to Thin Skin.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Joyce,
>>>>> What do you use as material?  Foam?  If Silicon which I like best
>>>>> where do you get the sheets?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> These are great. If you wish to create your own, you can get leg
>>>>>> cutters that work extremely well here. http://riverroadcreation
>>>>>> s.com/HopperLegs.htm J
>>>>>> A complete set costs $39.95 and you can use whatever foam color,
>>>>>> touched up with Permapen you wish. Or, as Pete says, you can buy them 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Lively Legz pre-made. I agree with him, legs on my flies seem to add a 
>>>>>> bit
>>>>>> more action in this form than simple knotted legs.
>>>>>> Thanks for the update. Joyce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody heard of these "Lively Legz" before?  it is a synthetic
>>>>>>> product kind of like a silicone, similar to the legs that J:Son puts 
>>>>>>> out as
>>>>>>> nymph legs, but (strictly in my opinion, and not to knock J:Son) I
>>>>>>> personally find them easier to work with, and for me where I'm located
>>>>>>> they're cheaper per fly than J:Son.  Plus, being from Pennsylvania, 
>>>>>>> USA, I
>>>>>>> have to support folks from my own state haha.  Seriously though, no
>>>>>>> affiliation to them, save for being a ridiculously happy customer, I
>>>>>>> absolutely love these things, and I find the purple flake color to have
>>>>>>> increased my fish catching rates, when nymphing.  Maybe it is just my 
>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>> confidence in fishing these, I'll give you that, but it seems to have 
>>>>>>> had a
>>>>>>> positive impact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anyone wants to try one or two for tying, or if anyone wants a
>>>>>>> fly tied by me (I'm not a professional, but I'll do my best), just send 
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> email off-list.  I won't promise it'll be tomorrow that I get to tying 
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> up for you, honestly, but it will be soon, and I think you'll like the
>>>>>>> results.
>>&

Re: [VFB] Lively legz

[Michael Bliss]

Let me know.  I am going to look for some sheets of silicon.  I have the
foam sheets and now to get the cutters.  Have you fished hoppers much in
Utah?  I have only had limited success.

Mike

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I use the 2 mm foam sheets and mark them with Permapen to my liking,
> usually with spots. I am going to experiment with the sheets you use for
> the backs of the nymphs and also with the slick Baxter IV bag material.
> This will take place after the Christmas fly boxes are finished..only 5
> dozen more flies to go.  I will let  you know how the IV bag ones work
> after I've tried it. The material of the bags is very similar to Thin Skin.
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Joyce,
>> What do you use as material?  Foam?  If Silicon which I like best where
>> do you get the sheets?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> These are great. If you wish to create your own, you can get leg cutters
>>> that work extremely well here. http://riverroadcreation
>>> s.com/HopperLegs.htm J
>>> A complete set costs $39.95 and you can use whatever foam color, touched
>>> up with Permapen you wish. Or, as Pete says, you can buy them from Lively
>>> Legz pre-made. I agree with him, legs on my flies seem to add a bit more
>>> action in this form than simple knotted legs.
>>> Thanks for the update. Joyce
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anybody heard of these "Lively Legz" before?  it is a synthetic product
>>>> kind of like a silicone, similar to the legs that J:Son puts out as nymph
>>>> legs, but (strictly in my opinion, and not to knock J:Son) I personally
>>>> find them easier to work with, and for me where I'm located they're cheaper
>>>> per fly than J:Son.  Plus, being from Pennsylvania, USA, I have to support
>>>> folks from my own state haha.  Seriously though, no affiliation to them,
>>>> save for being a ridiculously happy customer, I absolutely love these
>>>> things, and I find the purple flake color to have increased my fish
>>>> catching rates, when nymphing.  Maybe it is just my added confidence in
>>>> fishing these, I'll give you that, but it seems to have had a positive
>>>> impact.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone wants to try one or two for tying, or if anyone wants a fly
>>>> tied by me (I'm not a professional, but I'll do my best), just send an
>>>> email off-list.  I won't promise it'll be tomorrow that I get to tying them
>>>> up for you, honestly, but it will be soon, and I think you'll like the
>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> Again, not meant as an ad for them, and I have no affiliation with
>>>> them.  Just want to let folks see how awesome these things are.  They are a
>>>> game changer for my nymphs, and I now tie my nymphs with these legs almost
>>>> exclusively.
>>>>
>>>> Hope I didn't break any list rules by the offer, or by raving about the
>>>> product,
>>>> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Lively legz

[Michael Bliss]

Joyce,
What do you use as material?  Foam?  If Silicon which I like best where do
you get the sheets?

Mike

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Joyce M Westphal 
wrote:

> These are great. If you wish to create your own, you can get leg cutters
> that work extremely well here. http://riverroadcreations.com/
> HopperLegs.htm J
> A complete set costs $39.95 and you can use whatever foam color, touched
> up with Permapen you wish. Or, as Pete says, you can buy them from Lively
> Legz pre-made. I agree with him, legs on my flies seem to add a bit more
> action in this form than simple knotted legs.
> Thanks for the update. Joyce
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Pete Gramp  wrote:
>
>> Anybody heard of these "Lively Legz" before?  it is a synthetic product
>> kind of like a silicone, similar to the legs that J:Son puts out as nymph
>> legs, but (strictly in my opinion, and not to knock J:Son) I personally
>> find them easier to work with, and for me where I'm located they're cheaper
>> per fly than J:Son.  Plus, being from Pennsylvania, USA, I have to support
>> folks from my own state haha.  Seriously though, no affiliation to them,
>> save for being a ridiculously happy customer, I absolutely love these
>> things, and I find the purple flake color to have increased my fish
>> catching rates, when nymphing.  Maybe it is just my added confidence in
>> fishing these, I'll give you that, but it seems to have had a positive
>> impact.
>>
>> If anyone wants to try one or two for tying, or if anyone wants a fly
>> tied by me (I'm not a professional, but I'll do my best), just send an
>> email off-list.  I won't promise it'll be tomorrow that I get to tying them
>> up for you, honestly, but it will be soon, and I think you'll like the
>> results.
>>
>> Again, not meant as an ad for them, and I have no affiliation with them.
>> Just want to let folks see how awesome these things are.  They are a game
>> changer for my nymphs, and I now tie my nymphs with these legs almost
>> exclusively.
>>
>> Hope I didn't break any list rules by the offer, or by raving about the
>> product,
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Re: [VFB] New Zealand

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Oh my, I am envious.  I loved my fishing time in New Zealand.  My main fly
was the Hare and Copper.  It is kind of like the Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear.  I
caught a lot of fish with it.  I did not fish but maybe an hour around
Rotorua.  A couple of small streams that entered the lake.  I fished the
Tongariro with really good success and a number of rivers on the South
Island.  I would suggest that you contact a local fly shop and get current
information.  If you are taking your own equipment be ready to spend time
being "sanitized"  It took half a day for me to clear my equipment and pay
the fees.  Hope you have fun.  I would go back in a heart beat.

Mike

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Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap

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Okay, I will do this as well.

Mike Bliss

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> Let's also have a streamer swap, open pattern of tyers choice, flies due
> February 15, 2017
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> 1. Peggy Brenner Yellow Jane Craig
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Re: [VFB] Dry Fly Swap

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I am in.

Mike Bliss

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Re: [VFB] Swap

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Where out west Peggy?  I would be happy to do a swap especially if it were
a dry fly swap.

Mike

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> next spring to fall.
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

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Alan,

I would go to youtube and type in furled leaders.  There are some nice
videos there.

Mike B

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> Does any one have the spec’s for making a furled leader set up?
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> I love using them but not for buying them.
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> I would like to make my own but don’t know how to make the board?
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Re: [VFB] Tony S.

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He certainly has mine. What a fine gentleman he is.  
Mike

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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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Done

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> suffered an injury to her spinal cord. Not life threatening, just life 
> changing. I can't give many details because the hospital where I work is very 
> strict about HIPPA compliance. One strike and you are out.
> I can say that the  neurosurgeon has offered little hope that she would 
> regain any use of her legs. But as our pastor said earlier today: "God's 
> people are a people of hope."  So we are hoping and praying, and asking the 
> same of friends and family.  
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Re: [VFB] Aspen fishing

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That is a big cutthroat.  Too bad is wasn't you Alan. 

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Phxflytyer  wrote:

> While I was fishing the Frying Pan River on Friday, a guy across and
> upstream from me landed a 10 lb. Cutthroat just about a 1/4 mile below
> Rudei Res. I was only fishing for about an hour and caught one Brookie
> before we had to head to my brother-in-laws house.
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> May have some time after church today, but will spend Monday and Tuesday
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> Will report my findings in another installment.
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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Interesting BUT how is the diet of the trout compared in this.  Given where
they live I would guess they eat many times more "water insects" than "land
insects"

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> "Terrestrial insects outnumber the aquatics by such a wide margin that the
> term 'insect' is virtually synonymous with terrestrials insect in everyday
> usage.  Even fly fisherman fail to comprehend that, by comparison, the
> aquatic insects comprise a tiny category - barely five percent of all
> insect species inhabit the water (though the early ancestors of all insects
> were once marine)
> A mere fifteen hundred species of mayflies have been discovered" over two
> hundred times this many species of beetles exist.".
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Re: [VFB] RE:Norvise jaws

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Joyce is much better tier than me but I have found the midge jaws
invaluable when tying small flies.

Mike

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> I have the standard set of jaws, never needed the smaller or bigger set
> and I tie 22-24s and big 2/0s for salmon. These jaws hold everything well.
> Joyce
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Re: [VFB] A little bird

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Alan,

Happy Birthday from a cold Utah.

Mike

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> HAPPY BIRTHDAY Alan with one L.
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Re: [VFB] Tony -

[Michael Bliss]

I received this from a friend and it made me think of Tony too:

*Appreciating Life*

One day I had lunch with some old friends. Jim, a short, balding golfer
type, about 85-years old, came along with them; all in all, it was a
pleasant bunch.  When the menus were presented, my friends and I ordered
salads, sandwiches, and soups, except for Jim who said, "A large piece of
home-made apple pie, heated please."

I wasn't sure my ears heard him right, and the others were aghast, when Jim
continued, completely unabashed"along with two large scoops of vanilla
ice cream." We tried to act quite nonchalant, as if people did this all the
time, but when our orders were brought out, I didn't enjoy eating mine.

I couldn't take my eyes off of Jim as I watched him savoring each bite of
his pie a-la-mode. The other guys just grinned in disbelief as they
silently ate their lunches. The next time I went out to eat, I called Jim
and invited him to join me. I lunched on a white meat tuna sandwich, while
he ordered a chocolate parfait. Since I was chuckling, he wanted to know if
he amused me.

I answered, "Yes, you certainly do, but you also confuse me. How come you
always order such rich desserts, while I feel like I must be sensible in my
food choices?"  He laughed and said "I'm tasting all that is possible for
me to taste. I try to eat the food I need and do the things I should in
order to stay healthy, but life's too short, my friend. I hate missing out
on something good. This year I realized how old I was. (He grinned) I've
never been this old before, so, while I'm still here, I've decided it's
time to try all those things that, for years, I've been ignoring."

He continued, "I haven't smelled all the flowers yet. There are too many
trout streams I haven't fished. There's more fudge sundaes to wolf down and
kites to be flown overhead.  "There are too many golf courses I haven't
played. I've not laughed at all the jokes. I've missed a lot of sporting
events and potato chips and cokes.  "I want to wade again in water and feel
ocean spray on my face. I want to sit in a country church once more and
thank God for His grace.

"I want peanut butter every day spread on my morning toast. I want un-timed
long distance calls to the one I love the most.  "I haven't cried at all
the movies yet, or walked in the morning rain. I need to feel wind on my
face. I want to be in love again.  "So, if I choose to have dessert,
instead of having dinner, then should I die before night fall, I'd say I
died a winner, because I missed out on nothing. I filled my heart's desire.
I had that final piece of pie before my life expired."  With that, I called
the waitress over.. "I've changed my mind, " I said. "I want what he's
having, only add some more whipped cream!"

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Happy Birthday to one of the true gentlemen.  You are appreciated by many.
>
> Mike
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> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Jack Harford <jharford.i...@gmail.com>
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>> Hi Tony! happy happy birthday!! Have a Fantastic Year. May you be blessed
>> with tight lines and bent rods.
>>
>> See you in a couple of weeks,
>> Jack
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>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>> Tony - Happy Birthday.
>>>
>>> You're getting better and better each year!
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Re: [VFB] Tony -

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Happy Birthday to one of the true gentlemen.  You are appreciated by many.

Mike

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> Hi Tony! happy happy birthday!! Have a Fantastic Year. May you be blessed
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> See you in a couple of weeks,
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>> You're getting better and better each year!
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy's e-mail

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Jimmy should be an internet and computer expert with all the challenges he
has had with them.  Hope Earthlink speaks English ;>)

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> He said to tell everyone "hi".
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Re: [VFB] Greetings

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I echo the sentiments of Tony - I also offer the Merry Christmas wish to
all of my friends here.

Mike

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> A very MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Trout food?

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Yep those are nice but our trout are feeding on either small (22-26) or
streamers this time of year

Mike

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> On 11/17/15 6:37 PM, Jack Harford wrote:
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> Heading to KY this weekend for some trout fishing. If the trout don't like
> them, the spring bluegills probably will ;)
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> They probably will work for both species!
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Re: [VFB] More or Less? add 'D'

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Don,

I like the idea but maybe a simplification to it would suit me better.  I
can buy my license on-line.  No need to wait in lines anymore.  Not sure
about the other states but it is coming.  How about an on-line test with
links to find the right answer but you would have to read.  Some simple
videos could be made to show right and wrongs with questions after.  Simple
and cheap (maybe)

Mike

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Ed Roden  wrote:

> Excellent!
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015, Don Ordes  wrote:
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>> *A balance of A & B,* and *education* for the newly interested- not only
>> in fly-fishing and fly-tying, but in stream/lake/water etiquette (including
>> manners).  Greed seems to be the root of many evils, and it’s partner is
>> selfishness. We need both growth and control, and there may be a way.
>>
>> ‘River rage’ has become like road-rage. Too many people with un-relieved
>> stresses (and medications) floating a river to relieve stress and then a
>> few adding stress to everyone else they cross paths with. Bad mix with some
>> bad experiences and then people start packing things besides lunches.
>>
>> *A thought for some yay or nay consideration?*
>> *‘D’*   Should fly-fishing have a special fishing license *sticker*
>> (like a conservation sticker) that gives the holder *added fishing
>> privileges* when fly-fishing (as in C only areas or floating rivers),
>> but in return requiring a mandatory education class (water safety, laws and
>> etiquette, C practice) to go along with it, and before any technical
>> training like casting.
>>
>> *Necessity-* Waters are over-crowded with regular fisherpersons, along
>> with uneducated people or people without self-control and bad manners. Some
>> fishermen drink to excess before fishing and lose judgment abilities while
>> on the water (even wading a stream).
>> *Reasoning-* Hunters get a hunting course to get a hunting stamp to
>> carry a gun. Fishermen are also arming themselves- whether for self defense
>> or to prove a point. Different world.
>> *Benefit-:*
>> *First,* may serve as a screening or weeding-out process to refine the
>> ranks of fly-fishers.
>> *Second,* would serve to educate fly-fisherpersons, and give them pride
>> of distinction and an awareness of good manners.
>> *Third,* would give them something to lose if they cross the line and
>> get caught (or get reported). Having your fly-fishing tag revoked would be
>> for guides and fishers alike, and could motivate people to be more civil
>> and act more responsibly.
>> *Fourth-* Would add jobs and services to the fly shops ($$), plus the
>> responsibility of refining the growing ranks that they need for business,
>> while relieving some of the problems encountered in the field. Does no good
>> to grow the ranks if you also grow the problem. Shops benefit and have the
>> responsibility.
>> *Fifth-* Shops would adopt some policies to help out *in return* for the
>> business benefits they receive by growing the ranks, namely some things
>> that help with the over-crowding (and problems) created by the growing
>> ranks. Along with fishing reports could be a fisherman number report,
>> giving some crowding statistics and recommended windows of opportunity. As
>> the ranks grow and hostilities flare, this may become a necessity. And if
>> over-crowding is normal, like on season-opening day, fishers know what to
>> expect and are educated.
>> *State Game and Fish involvement?* To be discussed.
>> *Federal Involvement*- none. State issues.
>> *The guiding industry* -many times based out of shops, but not always.
>> They add to the problem by bringing clients into other systems (rather than
>> home waters) that are already over-crowded.
>>
>> *Counter-point*- another cost and regulation in an already regulated,
>> expensive hobby.
>>
>> *Would the good outweigh the bad?* Hunters have to do it- why not
>> fly-fishers? What about lure and bait-chuckers? Should they educate and
>> stamp up to the plate?  ug...
>>
>> I also believe that if you’re going to benefit financially from this
>> sport industry, you also have an interest and responsibility to grow it
>> responsibly, or lose clients. Stamps would be a way to provide for some of
>> the cost of education, which is never a bad thing.
>>
>> Again, *two sides*- *your thoughts*?  (I’d spring for the sticker if it
>> was a state requirement.)
>>
>> DonO
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Neville Gosling
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:03 PM
>> To: VFB
>> Subject: [VFB] More or Less?
>>
>> Do you think the fly fishing industry, as a whole, should invest more
>> time and dollars into recruiting new participants to the sport of fly
>> fishing?
>> a. Absolutely. We need more people fishing, and that should be our number
>> one priority.
>> b. Absolutely not. The waters are crowded enough as it is. More is not
>> merrier.
>> c. The business owner in me says grow the sport; the angler in me 

Re: [VFB] More or Less?

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I know that I am bad but "B"

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Neville Gosling 
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> Do you think the fly fishing industry, as a whole, should invest more time
> and dollars into recruiting new participants to the sport of fly fishing?
> a. Absolutely. We need more people fishing, and that should be our number
> one priority.
> b. Absolutely not. The waters are crowded enough as it is. More is not
> merrier.
> c. The business owner in me says grow the sport; the angler in me longs
> for more solitude.
>
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
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> I was wishin’ I was fishin’
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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I like this one

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

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 The wind, the sun, the open air, the colors and smell, the loneliness  of
 the sea or the solitude of the stream work for some kind of magic.

 How true!
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Re: [VFB] tightening spam screws

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You're loud and clear here in Utah

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Re: [VFB] Joke for the day

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love that one DonO

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 Why did the cowboy buy a miniature dachshund?



 To ‘Git a long little doggie.’



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 The perennial argument  over which bass I the better fighter, pound for
 pound, is in my opinion quite ridiculous.  There is far too much difference
 between one individual bass and another within each species, and far to
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 the water is, and so on.

 A D Livingston Fly-Rodding for Bass


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Re: [VFB] Digest for vfb-mail@googlegroups.com - 17 updates in 3 topics

[Michael Bliss]

It hurts major :)

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:09 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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 Little operations are on other folks.  I thought yours was a major
 operation.,
 Rick

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 Sorry, I had some recent problems.  Had a little operation.  I will try to
 get my fly off this week.

 Mike



 On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 10:38 AM, KEITH PASSANT kpt...@btinternet.com
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 Good afternoon all.
 So far I have flies from Martin, Rick, Al, Nev and myself. Mine are the
 best as you would expect 
 Tony has said that his will be in the post Monday, Rene has said his are
 ready to go too but has had a few problems.
 I have heard nothing at all from Don or Mike and Reuven.

 Can you let me know if you are still interested in being part of the
 tribute or have folded.

 Look forward to hearing from you all
 Cheers
 Keith



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-  Birdie fly plate?

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- 14 Updates
-  Birdie Plate or Plaque

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-  [Shaw Suspected Junk Email] [VFB] Post Script - Birdie plate

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   Birdie fly plate?
 http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail/t/12a1be855a5078b5?utm_source=digestutm_medium=email
  KP kpt...@btinternet.com: May 27 12:00PM -0700

 Hi all,
 I know I am just lurking these days but this got me out of my hole.
 This is a great idea. And as several folk have already said presents one
 problem. Getting it to Mrs Burgess a. Unbroken and b. So she doesn't have
 a
 customs bill.
 So... how about I meister it here in the UK and frame it. I
 will not deliver it but get it delivered by courier insured. I don't like
 to do the bereaved bit. My nuts are too small!

 Just need numbers of intended and a way of covering costs not that they
 would be huge. I have done some framing flies and take various levels of
 care but most turn out ok!!
 This one would receive the utmost attention to detail. I would go with a
 square or oblong frame not round. Positioning is easier.
 As for the IOFF well I don't have a list of members but am fairly sure
 Birdie was not a member.
 So let me have your thoughts but more importantly if you are in don't hang
 around because I think we need to get it done quickly so she understands
 the significance of it all to those that corresponded with the man.
 Over to you folks
 Keith





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  KP kpt...@btinternet.com: May 27 12:03PM -0700


  Don we have the power to make him an honorary member! If we could get a
  certificate then it would make a great frame background and we could
 doctor
  it so his name appeared in the cert right?

 DonO wrote:


  Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net: May 27 03:28PM -0400

 On 5/27/15 3:00 PM, KP wrote:
  So... how about I meister it here in the UK and frame it.
  I will not deliver it but get it delivered by courier insured.
 GREAT idea, Keith. That makes the most sense of anything.

  As for the IOFF well I don't have a list of members but am fairly sure
  Birdie was not a member.
 No he wasn't. And the more I have thought about it, I don't feel
 including the list of IOFF members is such a good idea, even making
 Brian an honorary member. Why? Because it was all done in jest and
 was written quite humorously. I don't think a person would be able to
 see any humor in it, having just lost her husband to a long and bitter
 struggle with cancer.

 However, the fly plate from his closest friends could be very meaningful.

 Just my own tuppence worth.

 Allan
  Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca: May 27 12:41PM -0700

 Hi KP:

 That would solve the major logistical problem since you are located in the
 UK and I know you from way back when. I have no problem with a certificate
 or whatever from the IOFF to Birdie as recognition. The other alternative
 is to include a photo lab copy of the photo of Birdie  his daughter. The
 photo is a little dark but could be made slightly lighter and more vibrant

Re: [VFB] Looking for new #12-14 hopper/cricket patterns

[Michael Bliss]

I want to catch the fish that would take that one DonO

Mike

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

   Here’s mine.  Keeps those pesky little ones off the line.

 [image: P1010067]

 DonO

  *From:* Pete Gramp pete.gr...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, July 04, 2015 4:33 AM
 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [VFB] Looking for new #12-14 hopper/cricket patterns

  There's an area of Maine, USA that I'll be fishing this summer where the
 adjacent farmlands are supposed to be harvested just a week prior to my
 fishing.  Even though I can't wade this go of it (and it's bugging me
 that's the case), I figure that the hoppers and/or crickets will make their
 typical migration down to the water because of the farms' harvests, so I
 should be tying up the same-sized terrestrials as past years.

 Not that past years' patterns didn't work well (namely a modified 'letort
 cricket' in pale yellow- rusty-olive with a dyed candy-apple-red hackle
 tail, and then a pink-craft-store-foam 'baby boy hopper', both relatively
 small, in size 12 to 14), but I always have a desire to try new patterns.
 Anyone have some favorite hopper or cricket patterns that might be new to
 me?

 I heard that one of the magazines (perhaps fly fisherman?) has a feature
 on Hoppers this latest issue, but I've yet to read / get it, and see if
 there are patterns in there.

 Happy Fourth of July to everyone in USA,
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Re: [VFB] Sad News

[Michael Bliss]

We will miss him. 
Mike 

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 On 5/23/15 1:54 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
 Brian Burgess a.k.a. Birdie of Dorking, Surrey England passed away
 So sad.
 
 Thank you for keeping us informed.
 
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Re: [VFB] POPPER swap

[Michael Bliss]

Al ,
I am in VIrginia today.  I will respond to your question as soon as I am back 
in Utah if by then there is still a spot 
Mike

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 On Aug 16, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Should read ALL my mail before responding. I seem to have a habit of 
 responding then reading.  :-(
 
 NINE spots left.
  
 Popper swap entries.
  
  1.  Al Fish
  2.  Chuck Alexander
  3.  Peggy Brenner
  4.  Jerry Caruso
  5.  Rene Zillman
  6.  Bob Hendry
  7.  Wayne Blake-Hedges
  8.
  9.
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 11.
 12.
 13.
 14.
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 16.
  
 
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Re: [VFB] Hopper Swap

[Michael Bliss]

Hopper or popper?  Count me in if it's hopper. Sorry Al,  I know you're gettin 
old I saw the list .

Mike

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 On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hopper swap entries as of this minute:
 
  1.  Al Fish
  2.  Chuck Alexander
  3.  Peggy Brenner
  4.  Jerry Caruso
  5.
  6.
  7.
  8.
  9.
 10.
 11.
 12.
 13.
 14.
 15.
 16.
 
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Re: [VFB] My health update

[Michael Bliss]

Good news Denny

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 To anyone that might be interested.
 This past Monday, Aug 11, I started Chemo. I have been on hormone shots for 
 about 7 years. Works, but not as well as we might like. A new treatment study 
 shows those with the type cancer (prostate) that treat like I do that treat 
 with the shots, if chemo is added the life expectancy raises considerably.  
 So my Cancer Dr  I have opted to go the double treatment. Also, total 
 remission is expected. One down and 22 more Monday mornings to go. Today I 
 went into Holy Family Hosp and had a chest port installed. Sure will be nice 
 to not have to have am IV installed each time and I understand will be more 
 better. I feel good, no side effects yet, some may come but will handle them 
 as they come along. Yes, is messing up my fishing but hopefully that will 
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Re: [VFB] Are we too Old? SURVEY

[Michael Bliss]

Mike Bliss - 66 years old

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 Ok, young and old farts, (VFB'ers). lets do one of My well known VFB surveys. 
  OK?? Could be fun. 
  Add your name.  Could also liven things up a little and age below:
 JIMMY D
 
  Just fall in line, don't be embarrassed . :-! 
 Jimmy D. 77 :-P 
 Tony Spezio --
 Denny Conrad--
 Allan fish--
 AND THE LIST GROWS AND GROWS.
 
 Allan Fish wrote:
 On 8/5/14, 9:16 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
 Guess you are saying I am onew of the old guys, since I am on VFB.
 
 Rick
 
 
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Re: [VFB] Are we too Old?

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I am here and here is Utah.  I just fished a small stream in the Uintah's .  
Good luck and so quiet.  Beautiful.

Mike Bliss

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 Is it time for a roll call?
  
 DonO
  
 From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail
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 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Are we too Old?
  
 I would like to see it happen.
 Tony
 
 
 On Monday, August 4, 2014 4:44 PM, Thomas R. Eckert 
 royalcoach...@bluewin.ch wrote:
 
 
 Yes we can !
 
 Thomas
 (Von Unterwegs gesendet)
  
 
 Am 04.08.2014 um 23:40 schrieb Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com:
 
 We can still have fun as the good ol’ guys on the VFB, can’t we?
  
 DonO
  
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 Subject: Re: [VFB] Are we too Old?
  
 I find that younger folks like to be on things like Facebook.  They do not 
 like email lists.  To keep track of our kids we are on Facebook.  
 Rick
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:57 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 
 I find a lot of the old list members now post mostly on Facebook. It sems 
 there is not enough time to post an other lists.
 Tried to open what you sent, I could only open two of them. I just can't 
 handle forums.
 Tony
 
 
 On Friday, August 1, 2014 5:13 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca 
 wrote:
 
 
 Hi Tony:
 
 I think that the problem is that we are all getting older and we don't seem 
 to attract many young people. Whilst I like the e-mail format, many younger 
 people here in British Columbia tend to use the forum style such as: -
 
 http://forum.flybc.ca/index.php?
 
 http://www.flyfishbc.com/forums/,
 
 http://innovativeflyfisher.com/forum/
 
 http://www.speypages.com/
 
 
 Don I really miss it all. The list has gone into cyber space.
 I have had not much to say, I am  not doing anything except getting old. Oh 
 I forgot, I am already there.
 Tony
 
 
 Neville (Nev) Gosling
 Greater Vancouver
 BC  Canada
 
 
 
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed...

[Michael Bliss]

I certainly offer mine.

Mike

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 We got a phone call last week... Teresa's sister is getting worse in her lung 
 cancer. Booked tickets and today she left with the girls (I'm going later). 
 But this morning they called and said that it was really bad. That was 14hrs 
 ago and she's still in the car on the way to Coventry. Prayers needed... that 
 she gets there in time.
 
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Re: [VFB] Vise repair question

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Same as Tony.  I sent mine in for chipped jaw and they replaced no question.  
Good company 
Mike

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 On May 7, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Robert Morger rmor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a Regal Inex vise that the lever for opening the jaw is always coming 
 loose. Anyone have any experience with how to repair it
 
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[VFB] Flyfishing Chronicles

[Michael Bliss]

I just finished watching Flyfishing Chronicles on TV.  Today's segment was
about Wounded Warriors fishing in Colorado.  It was pretty touching.  I
have started watching this program and I highly recommend it.  It is not
how I would do a TV program but this WV native is a really good guy.  He
loves his family.  He loves this country and he is just nice.

One more thing - I just saw a new ad for Ronco Fishing Rod.  I have not
seen an ad for that in years.  Just curious has anyone ever used one?  Do
they really work?

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Aloha from Hawaii

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