[VFB] RE: Nick Runarsson replied to a discussion on PURE Art Fly Tying
Nick, thankx for posting those pics at my site. WAY Cool. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:46:38 + From: m...@pureartflytying.ning.com To: markflie...@hotmail.com Subject: Nick Runarsson replied to a discussion on PURE Art Fly Tying Nick Runarsson replied to the discussion Plagerisum. on PURE Art Fly Tying To view the new reply, visit: http://pureartflytying.ning.com/xn/detail/2670570:Comment:6037 -- To stop following this discussion, go to: http://pureartflytying.ning.com/forum/topics/plagerisum-1?unfollow=1 _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Nick.....
got ya.musta been the other one...according to the descriptions at amazon.it was the other one. From: niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Nick. Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:28:27 +0100 Can't say what the Bencside Introduction reveals... but the Benchside Reference reveals no patterns... or recipes, if you want. It's a step-by-step book packed with TECHNIQUES. One 'Wings'-chapter, one 'Bodies'-chapter etc etc... separate moments. You simply cannot tie an entire fly using only one step-by-step. Some people build houses while another group of people are supplying the bricks for it. Benchside Reference shows you how to make the bricks... a wide range of different bricks It's a book that digs really deep into fly-tying. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Mark Romero Skickat: den 8 november 2009 04:42 Till: virtual fly box Ämne: [VFB] Nick. Nick, i got that book mixed up with another one i think.is it the Benchside Introduction to Fly Tying that has patterns...? i remember the one my friend had was spiral bound and you could lay it flat on the table. i think i'd better order the Benchside Reference, lol. Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.BR _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Nick.....
Now I remember what the Benchside Introduction was. I'ts the one Marvin Nolte described to me when we tied in Finland... as a reeeally good beginner book too. It is a pattern book... and a method book... both in the same package (yep, spiral bound, though hard cover). The pages are cut in half, kind of two books on top of eachother. A step-by-step of the FLY on the top half, like the average step-by-step instruction... where the fly step on top refer to a page in the lower half, breaking down the individual moments further in deeper instructions (Benchside Reference type). Great way of being able to cover many fly patterns and still do REALLY detailed step-by-steps for each of them... without having to repeat the same technique SBS in every fly tutorial it was used. One can wonder... how many pages did they save by doing this. As I understood Marvin, it had over 100 fly patterns. If each of those patterns had a step-by-step for its steps... how many pages would that result in? To me it sounds like a great introduction book. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Mark Romero Skickat: den 8 november 2009 16:26 Till: virtual fly box Ämne: [VFB] Re: Nick. got ya.musta been the other one...according to the descriptions at amazon.it was the other one. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif _ From: niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Nick. Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:28:27 +0100 Can't say what the Bencside Introduction reveals... but the Benchside Reference reveals no patterns... or recipes, if you want. It's a step-by-step book packed with TECHNIQUES. One 'Wings'-chapter, one 'Bodies'-chapter etc etc... separate moments. You simply cannot tie an entire fly using only one step-by-step. Some people build houses while another group of people are supplying the bricks for it. Benchside Reference shows you how to make the bricks... a wide range of different bricks It's a book that digs really deep into fly-tying. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Mark Romero Skickat: den 8 november 2009 04:42 Till: virtual fly box Ämne: [VFB] Nick. Nick, i got that book mixed up with another one i think.is it the Benchside Introduction to Fly Tying that has patterns...? i remember the one my friend had was spiral bound and you could lay it flat on the table. i think i'd better order the Benchside Reference, lol. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT _MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 it now.BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Nick
With the Rolex syndrome, I don't mean that the only reason to own it is 'snob appeal'... and I don't look at a LAW tyer and think 'He's wasted some money there'. The 'Rolex syndrome' I mentioned wasn't meant as 'flashy syndrome'... just the practical way: A Rolex doesn't give you a better time than any other watch. It might be a little more reliable than the $15 watch you can buy in a petrol station... but you don't have to go up to more than $200 to get a watch that is just as reliable. But that point where money value takes off from practical value is a relative one too. Chris Helm and I have discussed the Griffin Montana Mongoose a lot and I share his opinion (quote): The Moosegoose should be melted down and sold for scraps. It's the most unergonomical vise I've tried myself and I have found several design flaws and it's not much of precision work either. But I have several friends who love it. It's also about the individual's own requirements... Where on the price ladder will 100% quality satisfaction be TO ME? Then of course comfortability. If (only examples) the Barracuda, the Law and the CF Reference share the same quality value and two guys have the same quality requirements, I fully understand that Mr.X chose to pay more for the LAW than for the Barracuda, if he feels more comfortable with it... and the same thing if Mr.Y chose to pay even more for a CF, if that's what he feels most comfortable with. Even if a Rolex won't give you a BETTER watch, it can still be more comfortable to the individual than the one at the one that is exactly as good but is much cheaper. Hans W says it best: One man's dream is another man's nightmare. There's no such thing as a best vise. I can imagine that a certain vise can collect most quality points and win a quality contest... but since there always be someone who favours another, it won't be the best. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Allan Fish Skickat: den 5 november 2009 22:54 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Nick NICK, I LOVED YOUR ANALOGY! I feel the same about the LAW vice - only one reason to own it: Snob Appeal. I prefer the cheapest good quality vise that is comfortable to me. Which means many people find different vises most comfy. And that's good. (For the economy) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Nick
Allan, prayers for your sister. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:54:17 -0500 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com From: afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [VFB] Nick The CF vise gives me a dentist or brain surgery tool impression... almost a sterilized or scientific look. It's a vise that fits the clean bench of a bacteriology professor (beside his electron microscope), not on a messy tying bench with piles of hair patches and bird skins. Isnip A Barracuda or a Dingo vise would almost make him look like the bacteriology professor student, sitting at home doing his homework using something his father borrowed from his work at Caterpillar Inc. LOL NICK, I LOVED YOUR ANALOGY! I feel the same about the LAW vice - only one reason to own it: Snob Appeal. I prefer the cheapest good quality vise that is comfortable to me. Which means many people find different vises most comfy. And that's good. (For the economy) BTW - Not putting this out on the list, but I may be incommunicado for a few days - I have a sister in Louisiana (12-hour drive) whose body is shutting down. Of course, only God can set the time frame on that. So I don't know just when we'll be leaving. cheers. uncle a.-- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
