[VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?

2009-02-12 Thread J Balmer
I liked both, the parallel weave in particular. One way to solve the end of
weave process is to have the thread tied in where you end ahead of time,
hold both strands of woven material in one hand  wrap thread w/ the other.
As to the touch dubbing, I'll try it on smaller hooks. Not sure why, but
I've gotten away from waxing thread when dubbing. This would save some time.
 
J

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I have made two technique step-by-steps, Parallel Weave and Touchdubbing.
It's online but has not been linked to from the main site yet. I thought I
would fish some on the list first (and with 'fish', I don't mean just from
you, Allan).
 
Anyone having any comments on them?
 
http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/parallelweave_steps.htm
http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/touchdubbing_steps.htm
 
/Nick





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[VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?

2009-02-12 Thread Niclas (Gmail)
Not sure if I got you right there, but if you mean having the thread tied in
during the weaving process, this is hard... since one hand will be moving
back and forth under the hook and the bobbin will be hanging in the way.
Holding both strands in one hand and wrapping with the other when securing
it, is on the other hand nothing different from what I mean... once the
thread has been tied in again.

/Nick

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 3:14 PM, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote:

  I liked both, the parallel weave in particular. One way to solve the end
 of weave process is to have the thread tied in where you end ahead of time,
 hold both strands of woven material in one hand  wrap thread w/ the other.
 As to the touch dubbing, I'll try it on smaller hooks. Not sure why, but
 I've gotten away from waxing thread when dubbing. This would save some time.

 J

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   I have made two technique step-by-steps, Parallel Weave and
 Touchdubbing. It's online but has not been linked to from the main site
 yet. I thought I would fish some on the list first (and with 'fish', I
 don't mean just from you, Allan).

 Anyone having any comments on them?

 http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/parallelweave_steps.htm
 http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/touchdubbing_steps.htm

 /Nick
 


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[VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?

2009-02-12 Thread J Balmer
Don't have the bobbin hanging directly below the hook, have the thread
straight out from the hook similar to the way the Nor vise is setup, w/ the
bobbin closer to your chest instead of off to the right. It might be a
little more awkward, but it would make finishing the weave easier. Think of
it as though the hook shank extended out beyond the eye; you're crossing
under the thread the same way you're already crossing under the hook.
 
J

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Subject: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?


Not sure if I got you right there, but if you mean having the thread tied in
during the weaving process, this is hard... since one hand will be moving
back and forth under the hook and the bobbin will be hanging in the way.
Holding both strands in one hand and wrapping with the other when securing
it, is on the other hand nothing different from what I mean... once the
thread has been tied in again.
 
/Nick 


On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 3:14 PM, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote:


I liked both, the parallel weave in particular. One way to solve the end of
weave process is to have the thread tied in where you end ahead of time,
hold both strands of woven material in one hand  wrap thread w/ the other.
As to the touch dubbing, I'll try it on smaller hooks. Not sure why, but
I've gotten away from waxing thread when dubbing. This would save some time.
 
J

  _  

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Of Niclas Runarsson
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Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments?


I have made two technique step-by-steps, Parallel Weave and Touchdubbing.
It's online but has not been linked to from the main site yet. I thought I
would fish some on the list first (and with 'fish', I don't mean just from
you, Allan).
 
Anyone having any comments on them?
 
http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/parallelweave_steps.htm
http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/touchdubbing_steps.htm
 
/Nick











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[VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?

2009-02-12 Thread DonO
MeddelandeNick,

1.  You are right on with the weave, but I would include more photos with how 
to end the process or different ways to end up.  One can be with hook-shank 
left over (stonefly tail), using one material to batten down the other down and 
make the underbody on the front portion.  Or, for a weave-to-eye fly, like a 
soft-hackle, re-attaching the thread to tie both ends down with enough room to 
finish up.

I do a double (or single) rope-dub variation of this weave. Simple, fast, 
weighted, and durable.  The advanced rope-dub DVD #2 will have all of the steps 
for this.

The other weave I use is a overhand knot weave.  Here's just one tutorial: 
http://www.hatchesmagazine.com/page/month/370 
 
2.  On the touch-dub, it's a very good technique if you use a dubbing that is 
suitable for it, like you did- nice job, Jester.  

I still use the rope-dub to get the same effect with many different dubbings, 
including synthetics.  Again, see DVD #2.  ;o)  

DonO



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  Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments?


  I have made two technique step-by-steps, Parallel Weave and Touchdubbing. 
It's online but has not been linked to from the main site yet. I thought I 
would fish some on the list first (and with 'fish', I don't mean just from 
you, Allan).

  Anyone having any comments on them?

  http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/parallelweave_steps.htm
  http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/touchdubbing_steps.htm

  /Nick

  




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[VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?

2009-02-12 Thread J Balmer
The Nor Vise has a vertical rod opposite the vise jaws w/ a button on the
side. When you hang the bobbin over the button, the thread is straight out
from the hook, leaving both hands free to manipulate material. Also makes
dubbing easy, because you spin the vise head. For your weaving process, all
I have to do is turn the pedestal that the vise is on sideways.
 
J

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Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments?


If you mean hanging it up using the bobbin cradle, then the cradle's
horizontal part under the jaws, will block the way completely and you won't
be able to get any material under the hook.
 
/Nick

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Don't have the bobbin hanging directly below the hook, have the thread
straight out from the hook similar to the way the Nor vise is setup, w/ the
bobbin closer to your chest instead of off to the right. It might be a
little more awkward, but it would make finishing the weave easier. Think of
it as though the hook shank extended out beyond the eye; you're crossing
under the thread the same way you're already crossing under the hook.
 
J

  _  

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Niclas (Gmail)
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:30 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?


Not sure if I got you right there, but if you mean having the thread tied in
during the weaving process, this is hard... since one hand will be moving
back and forth under the hook and the bobbin will be hanging in the way.
Holding both strands in one hand and wrapping with the other when securing
it, is on the other hand nothing different from what I mean... once the
thread has been tied in again.
 
/Nick 


On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 3:14 PM, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote:


I liked both, the parallel weave in particular. One way to solve the end of
weave process is to have the thread tied in where you end ahead of time,
hold both strands of woven material in one hand  wrap thread w/ the other.
As to the touch dubbing, I'll try it on smaller hooks. Not sure why, but
I've gotten away from waxing thread when dubbing. This would save some time.
 
J

  _  

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Niclas Runarsson
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:23 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments?


I have made two technique step-by-steps, Parallel Weave and Touchdubbing.
It's online but has not been linked to from the main site yet. I thought I
would fish some on the list first (and with 'fish', I don't mean just from
you, Allan).
 
Anyone having any comments on them?
 
http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/parallelweave_steps.htm
http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/touchdubbing_steps.htm
 
/Nick













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