Re: [VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL?
You might check out allenflyfishing.com and the mp003bl stinger. Some of their hooks are good and some not, but all are inexpensive. On May 30, 2017 6:04 AM, "Pete Gramp" wrote: > Sounds very cool - and much more in my price range. I'll try a 25 pack > out to test out the hooks, and if I like them (which I suspect I will) I > can always get a 100-pack at a later date. Truth be told, I'm a sucker for > the packaging, and I like the idea of the hook holder that the 25-pack > comes in, so that is part of why I'm starting out with a 25 pack haha. > Many thanks for the suggestion, much appreciated - I hadn't heard of these > stealth hooks prior to now. > Thanks again, > -Pete > > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Joyce M Westphal > wrote: > >> Must add, in my opinion, these Stealth hooks are a better hook all >> around. They increase in hook length and depth as the hook size increases, >> geometrically scientifically set up, and are the sharpest hooks I have ever >> used, and I've used a lot of hooks.They are also the strongest hooks I have >> ever used. Check them out and read about them on the Stealth hook home >> page. >> I often tie the Nitro caddis with a greenish/brown core braid, a purple >> glass bead for the bead and tiny starling feathers for the wing pads when I >> am lazy and don't want to cut the sheeting wing pads. BTW, if you have a >> set of cutters for small upright dry wings, you can use that wing cutter to >> do the medallion sheeting wing pads..works really well and you can knock >> out several dozen in very little time. >> >> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Joyce M Westphal >> wrote: >> >>> I tie these on a Stealth C10 hook, 100 cost $25.99 so cost 25 cents >>> apiece, and also on Mustad caddis hooks, cheaper, and find no difference >>> in fishability or catching quality. I do crush the barbs. You can find >>> them here: >>> http://www.stealth.fish/products/100packs/. I think that the black >>> hooks really do seem to work better on these Nitro Caddis when there is >>> bright sunlight as the black hook eliminates the glare from the sun. This >>> is just my opinion. I buy mine from Eddie Robinson's flyfishing shop in >>> Orem Ut. The neat thing about these hooks, if you only want to purchase >>> 25, is that you can get them in a great plastic box with a lift out hook >>> holder that is great to simply take out and sit on the bench. At any rate, >>> check out the Stealth flyfishing hook page just for fun. >>> >>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Pete Gramp >>> wrote: >>> Does anyone on this list know of a cheaper alternative, or similar hook, to the Tiemco (TMC) 2499SP-BL? I saw the "Nitro Caddis Pupae" on www.intheriffle.com and would like to make a batch up, but I don't know that a standard curved scud hook will do the trick or not. the 2499SP-BL is 3x heavy, 2x short, 3x wide, at least according to one site I found them on... though it was in a foreign language so I don't know if I was reading that correctly or not. One seller on amazon said it is 2x heavy, 3x wide, 2x short, so I may go with those specs. Either way, it isn't exactly a standard scud, or a rounded-out klinkhammer hook either. A substitute could have a hook barb, I can crush barbs like the best of them, that isn't a problem, it doesn't have to be barbless if it saves a few bucks. I just can't pull the trigger to spend 12 bucks on 25 hooks for these, but maybe it's just been so long since I've bought hooks that this is the going price now... I've been fortunate to have stocked up on literal thousands of hooks about a decade ago, and haven't had to buy hooks in ages... so the price of a hook may have gone up from what I remember it being back then... Someone set me straight, if this is the going price of hooks these days, but I'm a cheapskate looking for a cheaper price and thought hooks were less than 48 cents US a piece. I realize it was 10 or 11 years ago, but I bought mine at a little under half that price. Has prices escalated that much in 10 years, or is it because of the special nature of the hook, or something else I'm not thinking of? Thanks for any help you have, and tight wraps, -Pete -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.
Re: [VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL?
Sounds very cool - and much more in my price range. I'll try a 25 pack out to test out the hooks, and if I like them (which I suspect I will) I can always get a 100-pack at a later date. Truth be told, I'm a sucker for the packaging, and I like the idea of the hook holder that the 25-pack comes in, so that is part of why I'm starting out with a 25 pack haha. Many thanks for the suggestion, much appreciated - I hadn't heard of these stealth hooks prior to now. Thanks again, -Pete On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > Must add, in my opinion, these Stealth hooks are a better hook all around. > They increase in hook length and depth as the hook size increases, > geometrically scientifically set up, and are the sharpest hooks I have ever > used, and I've used a lot of hooks.They are also the strongest hooks I have > ever used. Check them out and read about them on the Stealth hook home > page. > I often tie the Nitro caddis with a greenish/brown core braid, a purple > glass bead for the bead and tiny starling feathers for the wing pads when I > am lazy and don't want to cut the sheeting wing pads. BTW, if you have a > set of cutters for small upright dry wings, you can use that wing cutter to > do the medallion sheeting wing pads..works really well and you can knock > out several dozen in very little time. > > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Joyce M Westphal > wrote: > >> I tie these on a Stealth C10 hook, 100 cost $25.99 so cost 25 cents >> apiece, and also on Mustad caddis hooks, cheaper, and find no difference >> in fishability or catching quality. I do crush the barbs. You can find >> them here: >> http://www.stealth.fish/products/100packs/. I think that the black >> hooks really do seem to work better on these Nitro Caddis when there is >> bright sunlight as the black hook eliminates the glare from the sun. This >> is just my opinion. I buy mine from Eddie Robinson's flyfishing shop in >> Orem Ut. The neat thing about these hooks, if you only want to purchase >> 25, is that you can get them in a great plastic box with a lift out hook >> holder that is great to simply take out and sit on the bench. At any rate, >> check out the Stealth flyfishing hook page just for fun. >> >> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Pete Gramp wrote: >> >>> Does anyone on this list know of a cheaper alternative, or similar hook, >>> to the Tiemco (TMC) 2499SP-BL? I saw the "Nitro Caddis Pupae" on >>> www.intheriffle.com and would like to make a batch up, but I don't know >>> that a standard curved scud hook will do the trick or not. the 2499SP-BL >>> is 3x heavy, 2x short, 3x wide, at least according to one site I found them >>> on... though it was in a foreign language so I don't know if I was reading >>> that correctly or not. One seller on amazon said it is 2x heavy, 3x wide, >>> 2x short, so I may go with those specs. Either way, it isn't exactly a >>> standard scud, or a rounded-out klinkhammer hook either. A substitute >>> could have a hook barb, I can crush barbs like the best of them, that isn't >>> a problem, it doesn't have to be barbless if it saves a few bucks. I just >>> can't pull the trigger to spend 12 bucks on 25 hooks for these, but maybe >>> it's just been so long since I've bought hooks that this is the going price >>> now... I've been fortunate to have stocked up on literal thousands of hooks >>> about a decade ago, and haven't had to buy hooks in ages... so the price of >>> a hook may have gone up from what I remember it being back then... >>> >>> Someone set me straight, if this is the going price of hooks these days, >>> but I'm a cheapskate looking for a cheaper price and thought hooks were >>> less than 48 cents US a piece. I realize it was 10 or 11 years ago, but I >>> bought mine at a little under half that price. Has prices escalated that >>> much in 10 years, or is it because of the special nature of the hook, or >>> something else I'm not thinking of? >>> >>> Thanks for any help you have, and tight wraps, >>> -Pete >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >>> group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group >>> /vfb-mail?hl=en >>> >>> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VFB Mail" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vf
Re: [VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL?
Hi Joyce: these stealth hooks are new to me. I see they are cleverly and expensively packaged but where are they made? They claim to use Japanese steel but are they made in Japan? Their website which I have only given a cursory look at seems to miss out where they are actually manufactured. Neville (Nev) Gosling From: M Westphal Joyce Reply: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: May 29, 2017 at 8:12:29 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL? Must add, in my opinion, these Stealth hooks are a better hook all around. They increase in hook length and depth as the hook size increases, geometrically scientifically set up, and are the sharpest hooks I have ever used, and I've used a lot of hooks.They are also the strongest hooks I have ever used. Check them out and read about them on the Stealth hook home page. I often tie the Nitro caddis with a greenish/brown core braid, a purple glass bead for the bead and tiny starling feathers for the wing pads when I am lazy and don't want to cut the sheeting wing pads. BTW, if you have a set of cutters for small upright dry wings, you can use that wing cutter to do the medallion sheeting wing pads..works really well and you can knock out several dozen in very little time. On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > I tie these on a Stealth C10 hook, 100 cost $25.99 so cost 25 cents > apiece, and also on Mustad caddis hooks, cheaper, and find no difference > in fishability or catching quality. I do crush the barbs. You can find > them here: > http://www.stealth.fish/products/100packs/. I think that the black hooks > really do seem to work better on these Nitro Caddis when there is bright > sunlight as the black hook eliminates the glare from the sun. This is just > my opinion. I buy mine from Eddie Robinson's flyfishing shop in Orem Ut. > The neat thing about these hooks, if you only want to purchase 25, is that > you can get them in a great plastic box with a lift out hook holder that is > great to simply take out and sit on the bench. At any rate, check out the > Stealth flyfishing hook page just for fun. > > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Pete Gramp wrote: > >> Does anyone on this list know of a cheaper alternative, or similar hook, >> to the Tiemco (TMC) 2499SP-BL? I saw the "Nitro Caddis Pupae" on >> www.intheriffle.com and would like to make a batch up, but I don't know >> that a standard curved scud hook will do the trick or not. the 2499SP-BL >> is 3x heavy, 2x short, 3x wide, at least according to one site I found them >> on... though it was in a foreign language so I don't know if I was reading >> that correctly or not. One seller on amazon said it is 2x heavy, 3x wide, >> 2x short, so I may go with those specs. Either way, it isn't exactly a >> standard scud, or a rounded-out klinkhammer hook either. A substitute >> could have a hook barb, I can crush barbs like the best of them, that isn't >> a problem, it doesn't have to be barbless if it saves a few bucks. I just >> can't pull the trigger to spend 12 bucks on 25 hooks for these, but maybe >> it's just been so long since I've bought hooks that this is the going price >> now... I've been fortunate to have stocked up on literal thousands of hooks >> about a decade ago, and haven't had to buy hooks in ages... so the price of >> a hook may have gone up from what I remember it being back then... >> >> Someone set me straight, if this is the going price of hooks these days, >> but I'm a cheapskate looking for a cheaper price and thought hooks were >> less than 48 cents US a piece. I realize it was 10 or 11 years ago, but I >> bought mine at a little under half that price. Has prices escalated that >> much in 10 years, or is it because of the special nature of the hook, or >> something else I'm not thinking of? >> >> Thanks for any help you have, and tight wraps, >> -Pete >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group >> /vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For
Re: [VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL?
Must add, in my opinion, these Stealth hooks are a better hook all around. They increase in hook length and depth as the hook size increases, geometrically scientifically set up, and are the sharpest hooks I have ever used, and I've used a lot of hooks.They are also the strongest hooks I have ever used. Check them out and read about them on the Stealth hook home page. I often tie the Nitro caddis with a greenish/brown core braid, a purple glass bead for the bead and tiny starling feathers for the wing pads when I am lazy and don't want to cut the sheeting wing pads. BTW, if you have a set of cutters for small upright dry wings, you can use that wing cutter to do the medallion sheeting wing pads..works really well and you can knock out several dozen in very little time. On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > I tie these on a Stealth C10 hook, 100 cost $25.99 so cost 25 cents > apiece, and also on Mustad caddis hooks, cheaper, and find no difference > in fishability or catching quality. I do crush the barbs. You can find > them here: > http://www.stealth.fish/products/100packs/. I think that the black hooks > really do seem to work better on these Nitro Caddis when there is bright > sunlight as the black hook eliminates the glare from the sun. This is just > my opinion. I buy mine from Eddie Robinson's flyfishing shop in Orem Ut. > The neat thing about these hooks, if you only want to purchase 25, is that > you can get them in a great plastic box with a lift out hook holder that is > great to simply take out and sit on the bench. At any rate, check out the > Stealth flyfishing hook page just for fun. > > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Pete Gramp wrote: > >> Does anyone on this list know of a cheaper alternative, or similar hook, >> to the Tiemco (TMC) 2499SP-BL? I saw the "Nitro Caddis Pupae" on >> www.intheriffle.com and would like to make a batch up, but I don't know >> that a standard curved scud hook will do the trick or not. the 2499SP-BL >> is 3x heavy, 2x short, 3x wide, at least according to one site I found them >> on... though it was in a foreign language so I don't know if I was reading >> that correctly or not. One seller on amazon said it is 2x heavy, 3x wide, >> 2x short, so I may go with those specs. Either way, it isn't exactly a >> standard scud, or a rounded-out klinkhammer hook either. A substitute >> could have a hook barb, I can crush barbs like the best of them, that isn't >> a problem, it doesn't have to be barbless if it saves a few bucks. I just >> can't pull the trigger to spend 12 bucks on 25 hooks for these, but maybe >> it's just been so long since I've bought hooks that this is the going price >> now... I've been fortunate to have stocked up on literal thousands of hooks >> about a decade ago, and haven't had to buy hooks in ages... so the price of >> a hook may have gone up from what I remember it being back then... >> >> Someone set me straight, if this is the going price of hooks these days, >> but I'm a cheapskate looking for a cheaper price and thought hooks were >> less than 48 cents US a piece. I realize it was 10 or 11 years ago, but I >> bought mine at a little under half that price. Has prices escalated that >> much in 10 years, or is it because of the special nature of the hook, or >> something else I'm not thinking of? >> >> Thanks for any help you have, and tight wraps, >> -Pete >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group >> /vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL?
I tie these on a Stealth C10 hook, 100 cost $25.99 so cost 25 cents apiece, and also on Mustad caddis hooks, cheaper, and find no difference in fishability or catching quality. I do crush the barbs. You can find them here: http://www.stealth.fish/products/100packs/. I think that the black hooks really do seem to work better on these Nitro Caddis when there is bright sunlight as the black hook eliminates the glare from the sun. This is just my opinion. I buy mine from Eddie Robinson's flyfishing shop in Orem Ut. The neat thing about these hooks, if you only want to purchase 25, is that you can get them in a great plastic box with a lift out hook holder that is great to simply take out and sit on the bench. At any rate, check out the Stealth flyfishing hook page just for fun. On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Pete Gramp wrote: > Does anyone on this list know of a cheaper alternative, or similar hook, > to the Tiemco (TMC) 2499SP-BL? I saw the "Nitro Caddis Pupae" on > www.intheriffle.com and would like to make a batch up, but I don't know > that a standard curved scud hook will do the trick or not. the 2499SP-BL > is 3x heavy, 2x short, 3x wide, at least according to one site I found them > on... though it was in a foreign language so I don't know if I was reading > that correctly or not. One seller on amazon said it is 2x heavy, 3x wide, > 2x short, so I may go with those specs. Either way, it isn't exactly a > standard scud, or a rounded-out klinkhammer hook either. A substitute > could have a hook barb, I can crush barbs like the best of them, that isn't > a problem, it doesn't have to be barbless if it saves a few bucks. I just > can't pull the trigger to spend 12 bucks on 25 hooks for these, but maybe > it's just been so long since I've bought hooks that this is the going price > now... I've been fortunate to have stocked up on literal thousands of hooks > about a decade ago, and haven't had to buy hooks in ages... so the price of > a hook may have gone up from what I remember it being back then... > > Someone set me straight, if this is the going price of hooks these days, > but I'm a cheapskate looking for a cheaper price and thought hooks were > less than 48 cents US a piece. I realize it was 10 or 11 years ago, but I > bought mine at a little under half that price. Has prices escalated that > much in 10 years, or is it because of the special nature of the hook, or > something else I'm not thinking of? > > Thanks for any help you have, and tight wraps, > -Pete > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@ > googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL?
Does anyone on this list know of a cheaper alternative, or similar hook, to the Tiemco (TMC) 2499SP-BL? I saw the "Nitro Caddis Pupae" on www.intheriffle.com and would like to make a batch up, but I don't know that a standard curved scud hook will do the trick or not. the 2499SP-BL is 3x heavy, 2x short, 3x wide, at least according to one site I found them on... though it was in a foreign language so I don't know if I was reading that correctly or not. One seller on amazon said it is 2x heavy, 3x wide, 2x short, so I may go with those specs. Either way, it isn't exactly a standard scud, or a rounded-out klinkhammer hook either. A substitute could have a hook barb, I can crush barbs like the best of them, that isn't a problem, it doesn't have to be barbless if it saves a few bucks. I just can't pull the trigger to spend 12 bucks on 25 hooks for these, but maybe it's just been so long since I've bought hooks that this is the going price now... I've been fortunate to have stocked up on literal thousands of hooks about a decade ago, and haven't had to buy hooks in ages... so the price of a hook may have gone up from what I remember it being back then... Someone set me straight, if this is the going price of hooks these days, but I'm a cheapskate looking for a cheaper price and thought hooks were less than 48 cents US a piece. I realize it was 10 or 11 years ago, but I bought mine at a little under half that price. Has prices escalated that much in 10 years, or is it because of the special nature of the hook, or something else I'm not thinking of? Thanks for any help you have, and tight wraps, -Pete -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
