Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss
It's not a high explosive though, and when kept moist, there is no risk of shock-induced deflagration (if I remember correctly, picric acid is incapable of detonation). The main risk is explosive decomposition of dried material trapped between container and screw cap... On 15 Feb, 2010, at 15:46, Allan Fish wrote: I have never heard of picric before. tell me more about this picric died fur... what is picric (some type of acid ?) and why is it good ? Picric acid is 2,4,6-tri-nitrophenol. As with other highly nitrated products, it is an explosive. However, it's also a BRILLIANT yellow with a slight orange tint and makes a great dye. In the early years of its discovery (1700's, that's what it was used for. Widipedia says its first use as an explosive was in the mid-1800's. Probably when some clumsy chemist dropped a bottle of it and it went boom! Chemistry lesson over. Now you can go back to your regular programming. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com === (º === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel:035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17| mobiel: 06 38 279016 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web:www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod | === º) === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss
It's dye capabilities it gets from the phenolic hydroxy group, which is quite acidic, due to those electron-pushing nitro groups. This makes the phenol reactive towards amino groups, freely available in keratin and other skin proteins... Sloppy working with picric acid makes for permanently stained fingers. On 15 Feb, 2010, at 15:46, Allan Fish wrote: I have never heard of picric before. tell me more about this picric died fur... what is picric (some type of acid ?) and why is it good ? Picric acid is 2,4,6-tri-nitrophenol. As with other highly nitrated products, it is an explosive. However, it's also a BRILLIANT yellow with a slight orange tint and makes a great dye. In the early years of its discovery (1700's, that's what it was used for. Widipedia says its first use as an explosive was in the mid-1800's. Probably when some clumsy chemist dropped a bottle of it and it went boom! Chemistry lesson over. Now you can go back to your regular programming. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com === (º === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel:035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17| mobiel: 06 38 279016 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web:www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod | === º) === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss
The main risk is explosive decomposition of dried material trapped between container and screw cap... Goodbye fingers! ;-) -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss
Buggs said he wants to be hot-tub dyed with picric acid, so he can become a blonde bombshell. Dr. D PS DonO got some picric dyed hare, rabbit (*sniff*), and mole from Iain, and it is really cool stuff. The HR guard-hairs take on an orange hue and the belly hair gets a beautiful bright yellow. The mole comes out with a real 'earthy' tone. - Original Message - From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss I have never heard of picric before. tell me more about this picric died fur... what is picric (some type of acid ?) and why is it good ? Picric acid is 2,4,6-tri-nitrophenol. As with other highly nitrated products, it is an explosive. However, it's also a BRILLIANT yellow with a slight orange tint and makes a great dye. In the early years of its discovery (1700's, that's what it was used for. Widipedia says its first use as an explosive was in the mid-1800's. Probably when some clumsy chemist dropped a bottle of it and it went boom! Chemistry lesson over. Now you can go back to your regular programming. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss
So where does one obtain some picric acid or some acid dyed furs in the USA? Joyce On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Buggs said he wants to be hot-tub dyed with picric acid, so he can become a blonde bombshell. Dr. D PS DonO got some picric dyed hare, rabbit (*sniff*), and mole from Iain, and it is really cool stuff. The HR guard-hairs take on an orange hue and the belly hair gets a beautiful bright yellow. The mole comes out with a real 'earthy' tone. - Original Message - From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss I have never heard of picric before. tell me more about this picric died fur... what is picric (some type of acid ?) and why is it good ? Picric acid is 2,4,6-tri-nitrophenol. As with other highly nitrated products, it is an explosive. However, it's also a BRILLIANT yellow with a slight orange tint and makes a great dye. In the early years of its discovery (1700's, that's what it was used for. Widipedia says its first use as an explosive was in the mid-1800's. Probably when some clumsy chemist dropped a bottle of it and it went boom! Chemistry lesson over. Now you can go back to your regular programming. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss
Joyce asked, So where does one obtain some picric acid or some acid dyed furs in the USA? Joyce Chemical supply houses (as opposed to Laboratory Supply Houses which tend to carry medical supplies). Most of 'em don't sell to individuals. And I would venture a guess that a request for picric acid would generate some inquiries from the Dept. of Homeland Security. g Remember that I said it was 2,4,6-Trinitrophenol? This is a VERY close relative to Tri-nitrotoluene, otherwise known in the trade as TNT. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss
I tried to make nitroglycerine once in HS. Don't mix it in a lead dish... -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allan Fish Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:02 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss Joyce asked, So where does one obtain some picric acid or some acid dyed furs in the USA? Joyce Chemical supply houses (as opposed to Laboratory Supply Houses which tend to carry medical supplies). Most of 'em don't sell to individuals. And I would venture a guess that a request for picric acid would generate some inquiries from the Dept. of Homeland Security. g Remember that I said it was 2,4,6-Trinitrophenol? This is a VERY close relative to Tri-nitrotoluene, otherwise known in the trade as TNT. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss
Joyce, I did find some already dyed stuff on Ebay, only place I could find. Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:02:12 -0500 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com From: afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss Joyce asked, So where does one obtain some picric acid or some acid dyed furs in the USA? Joyce Chemical supply houses (as opposed to Laboratory Supply Houses which tend to carry medical supplies). Most of 'em don't sell to individuals. And I would venture a guess that a request for picric acid would generate some inquiries from the Dept. of Homeland Security. g Remember that I said it was 2,4,6-Trinitrophenol? This is a VERY close relative to Tri-nitrotoluene, otherwise known in the trade as TNT. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
