Re: [VFB] Joyce- egg patterns?

2010-11-04 Thread Don Ordes
Joyce,
Do you have a preferred size or size range in mind?
Do you have a pattern/look that you want to acheive?
Do you want a yolk?  Tied in or markered?
Do you want irridescence?

I tie a lot of eggs with a lot of materials.  I've tied a lot of 'carpet 
flies'- giant eggs the size of a golf-ball for Alaskan fishers, who swear by 
it.  McFlyfoam egg-yarn works great for these.  

I also rope-dub ice-dub, overwrap to a ball, tie off, brush out, and trim 
round.  Makes for a UV flash egg, any size, any color.  Takes practice to get 
the wraps right to make a round ball- kinda like a compressed scud.
What makes the difference is whether you fasten the thread down so it cannot 
turn, and then spin to dub it, or whether you start the dubbing on the thread, 
pick the bobbin  thread out of the holder and just let the bobbin and thread 
rotate in your hand. If you do the latter, it is a rope dub and you can slide 
the dubbing up and down at will ...   Joyce- I need to sit and watch you do 
this.  SowBug?

DonO
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joyce M Westphal 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- vs other techniques- NorVise 
questions


  What makes the difference is whether you fasten the thread down so it cannot 
turn, and then spin to dub it, or whether you start the dubbing on the thread, 
pick the bobbin  thread out of the holder and just let the bobbin and thread 
rotate in your hand. If you do the latter, it is a rope dub and you can slide 
the dubbing up and down at will . I often slide the dubbing up to be fatter as 
I get to the thorax part of the fly but you have to give a few extra spins 
sometimes if you forget to spin, turn, dub in a counter clockwise position, 
which I frequently do.  I dont have the dubbing skill that Larry does, so I 
most usually just push the dubbing up the thread to be fatter. Need to improve 
my techniques.
Now, a different question.  I HATE tying anything with glo bugs yet need to 
do a bunch for a eggi jaun fly..I've looked at all the Youtube videos showing 
how to tie that fly as well as glo bug flies, and theirs turn out great. Mine 
look like buzz cut blobs of egg yarn.  Has anyone done a split thread dubbing 
for a glo bug and have it come out looking great? Are there any tricks I should 
know? One tyer says, cut the yarn straight across. the other says to cut on a 
curve. Im open to suggestions by those who are more in the know than I am.


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Re: [VFB] Joyce- egg patterns?

2010-11-04 Thread Joyce M Westphal
Doing some eggi jaun kenobi flies, want the egg to be the front end of a san
Jaun worm on the back.  The egg size I'm hoping for is about 1/4 inch total
diameter, with the pink center and Oregon cheese on the outsides with a bit
of pink peeking out. Mine look like flat tops. Do you add the irredescence
as you dub or at the final few wraps? If you're doing it by tying in the glo
bug yarn, would you use 3 or four pieces of yarn, smaller of course to fit
the size of the fly. These are size 10 1120 Diiachi hooks.  Help is
appreciated.
  I've watch jean pettijean use a dubbing spinner technique for other flies
and wonder does this work for egg patterns as well. I've no problem tying
big Fat Alberts for AK.  Help is appreciated. Joyce

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

  Joyce,
 Do you have a preferred size or size range in mind?
 Do you have a pattern/look that you want to acheive?
 Do you want a yolk?  Tied in or markered?
 Do you want irridescence?

 I tie a lot of eggs with a lot of materials.  I've tied a lot of 'carpet
 flies'- giant eggs the size of a golf-ball for Alaskan fishers, who swear by
 it.  McFlyfoam egg-yarn works great for these.

 I also rope-dub ice-dub, overwrap to a ball, tie off, brush out, and trim
 round.  Makes for a UV flash egg, any size, any color.  Takes practice to
 get the wraps right to make a round ball- kinda like a compressed scud.
 What makes the difference is whether you fasten the thread down so it
 cannot turn, and then spin to dub it, or whether you start the dubbing on
 the thread, pick the bobbin  thread out of the holder and just let the
 bobbin and thread rotate in your hand. If you do the latter, it is a rope
 dub and you can slide the dubbing up and down at will ...   Joyce- I need
 to sit and watch you do this.  SowBug?

 DonO

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com
 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:12 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- vs other techniques- NorVise
 questions

 What makes the difference is whether you fasten the thread down so it
 cannot turn, and then spin to dub it, or whether you start the dubbing on
 the thread, pick the bobbin  thread out of the holder and just let the
 bobbin and thread rotate in your hand. If you do the latter, it is a rope
 dub and you can slide the dubbing up and down at will . I often slide the
 dubbing up to be fatter as I get to the thorax part of the fly but you have
 to give a few extra spins sometimes if you forget to spin, turn, dub in a
 counter clockwise position, which I frequently do.  I dont have the dubbing
 skill that Larry does, so I most usually just push the dubbing up the thread
 to be fatter. Need to improve my techniques.
   Now, a different question.  I HATE tying anything with glo bugs yet need
 to do a bunch for a eggi jaun fly..I've looked at all the Youtube videos
 showing how to tie that fly as well as glo bug flies, and theirs turn out
 great. Mine look like buzz cut blobs of egg yarn.  Has anyone done a split
 thread dubbing for a glo bug and have it come out looking great? Are there
 any tricks I should know? One tyer says, cut the yarn straight across. the
 other says to cut on a curve. Im open to suggestions by those who are more
 in the know than I am.

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