Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
Joyce: The fish in Hobble Creek seem to like almost everything. LJ Rodger Oleson rodger...@argontech.net 11/27/2010 10:33 PM On 11/3/2010 2:08 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: As have I. Just finished 3 dozen Scofield minute midges for the flyboxes, using green holographic Holloshimmer..they are great looking and fishing great on Hobble Creek. Joyce luverly idea, Joyce... where are the pix? Rodger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
On 11/3/2010 2:08 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: As have I. Just finished 3 dozen Scofield minute midges for the flyboxes, using green holographic Holloshimmer..they are great looking and fishing great on Hobble Creek. Joyce luverly idea, Joyce... where are the pix? Rodger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
I have the book by Polly Rosenburg. Tied many flies using that technique. Saw Don at SowBug and he showed me more about rope dubbing. Have watched the video many times. The are different techiques. Will have to get the second video so I don't get bumps. Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
Joyce: If you are successful in scanning the fly, would you send the image to me also? Thanks. By the way, I use gold tinsel with peacock and brown hackle, not silver tinsel DonO and I are in a conversation regarding spinning versus noodling. Larry Johnson Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com 11/3/2010 8:47 PM The fly is Larry Johnson's pattern. He ties it with silver mylar rib, I did this with the green holographic holloshimmer..it is available at the JoAnne's fabric store in the thread department. It is actually a fine (goes through a sewing machine needle) mylar thread that comes in gold, silver both plain and holographic, two shades of green and red and copper. I love it for the fine ribbing of midges..it is very strong and adds a bit of flash. I'll see if I am successful in getting a copy of the midge on the scanner and send it to you..looks like the one Don tied. The pattern is quite simple: Scofield minute magic midge Hook: any dry fly Hackle: Brown..can be right size of a size larger Rib: Silver mylar or silver or colored Holoshimmer mylar thread. Thread: I use olive or red, depending on whether I rib with red or green or silver Body; 1-3 peacock herls, depending on the hook size. I tied these on a size 16 94840 Mustad, but you can use size to match what your're kicking up. Wrap a layer of thread, at the hook bend, tie in the hackle, peacock herl and mylar or Holoshimmer ribbing. Hold all three with your thread and spin the vise making a nice tight hairy chenille. Then spin the vise again and wind the chenille rope onto the hook, tie off, It's done. These are the flies that Larry tied at Sowbug I believe. A very effective fly. You can literally tie one in one minute. I fish them a lot. If you can't find the Holoshimmer, let me know and I can get some for you. It's a bit pricey, about $5.00 a spool, but that contains a lot of thread. I wait until there is a 40 or 50% off coupon and get it then. Enjoy. I'll see if I can get it scanned and a picture sent off. Joyce - Show quoted text - On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering about posting a photo. Tony --- On *Wed, 11/3/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 7:54 PM On 11/3/2010 3:08 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Scofield minute midges Will you share the recipe for the Scofield minute midge, please Peggy B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
Larry, If you use and furs or even dark synthetics, and option to tying in a tinsel is using a very small clump of Quick-decent, which comes in many colors and I thing even a holo. It can even be roped or Norvised into peacock. Stretch it out fine and then spin it in. I use gold with my brown furs and silver with my gray furs to replace the flash of ribbing, but accentuate the segments. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock Joyce: If you are successful in scanning the fly, would you send the image to me also? Thanks. By the way, I use gold tinsel with peacock and brown hackle, not silver tinsel DonO and I are in a conversation regarding spinning versus noodling. Larry Johnson Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com 11/3/2010 8:47 PM The fly is Larry Johnson's pattern. He ties it with silver mylar rib, I did this with the green holographic holloshimmer..it is available at the JoAnne's fabric store in the thread department. It is actually a fine (goes through a sewing machine needle) mylar thread that comes in gold, silver both plain and holographic, two shades of green and red and copper. I love it for the fine ribbing of midges..it is very strong and adds a bit of flash. I'll see if I am successful in getting a copy of the midge on the scanner and send it to you..looks like the one Don tied. The pattern is quite simple: Scofield minute magic midge Hook: any dry fly Hackle: Brown..can be right size of a size larger Rib: Silver mylar or silver or colored Holoshimmer mylar thread. Thread: I use olive or red, depending on whether I rib with red or green or silver Body; 1-3 peacock herls, depending on the hook size. I tied these on a size 16 94840 Mustad, but you can use size to match what your're kicking up. Wrap a layer of thread, at the hook bend, tie in the hackle, peacock herl and mylar or Holoshimmer ribbing. Hold all three with your thread and spin the vise making a nice tight hairy chenille. Then spin the vise again and wind the chenille rope onto the hook, tie off, It's done. These are the flies that Larry tied at Sowbug I believe. A very effective fly. You can literally tie one in one minute. I fish them a lot. If you can't find the Holoshimmer, let me know and I can get some for you. It's a bit pricey, about $5.00 a spool, but that contains a lot of thread. I wait until there is a 40 or 50% off coupon and get it then. Enjoy. I'll see if I can get it scanned and a picture sent off. Joyce - Show quoted text - On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering about posting a photo. Tony --- On *Wed, 11/3/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 7:54 PM On 11/3/2010 3:08 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Scofield minute midges Will you share the recipe for the Scofield minute midge, please Peggy B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
There are a lot of processes and color combinations, etc. that I never get into. I should, I suppose. By the way. I plan to retire after this school year, and would love to find some time to come up and fish some of the mystical waters of Wyoming. I can bring the 4-wheeler. You would only need to point me in a direction. And there are two or three places here in central Utah which deserve your attention for an afternoon or two. It won't happen if we don't make it happen. I have a harder time getting around lately, but I fished almost exclusively creeks and streams. (Love those beaver ponds. I pass the Provo by altogether because of all the traffic it gets. The fish in the Provo have seen everything a thousand times. When I watch the evening weather, I always feel the need to call you and tell you that you are welcome for the weather we sent to you after we had it here in Utah. LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 10:13 AM Larry, If you use and furs or even dark synthetics, and option to tying in a tinsel is using a very small clump of Quick-decent, which comes in many colors and I thing even a holo. It can even be roped or Norvised into peacock. Stretch it out fine and then spin it in. I use gold with my brown furs and silver with my gray furs to replace the flash of ribbing, but accentuate the segments. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock Joyce: If you are successful in scanning the fly, would you send the image to me also? Thanks. By the way, I use gold tinsel with peacock and brown hackle, not silver tinsel DonO and I are in a conversation regarding spinning versus noodling. Larry Johnson Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com 11/3/2010 8:47 PM The fly is Larry Johnson's pattern. He ties it with silver mylar rib, I did this with the green holographic holloshimmer..it is available at the JoAnne's fabric store in the thread department. It is actually a fine (goes through a sewing machine needle) mylar thread that comes in gold, silver both plain and holographic, two shades of green and red and copper. I love it for the fine ribbing of midges..it is very strong and adds a bit of flash. I'll see if I am successful in getting a copy of the midge on the scanner and send it to you..looks like the one Don tied. The pattern is quite simple: Scofield minute magic midge Hook: any dry fly Hackle: Brown..can be right size of a size larger Rib: Silver mylar or silver or colored Holoshimmer mylar thread. Thread: I use olive or red, depending on whether I rib with red or green or silver Body; 1-3 peacock herls, depending on the hook size. I tied these on a size 16 94840 Mustad, but you can use size to match what your're kicking up. Wrap a layer of thread, at the hook bend, tie in the hackle, peacock herl and mylar or Holoshimmer ribbing. Hold all three with your thread and spin the vise making a nice tight hairy chenille. Then spin the vise again and wind the chenille rope onto the hook, tie off, It's done. These are the flies that Larry tied at Sowbug I believe. A very effective fly. You can literally tie one in one minute. I fish them a lot. If you can't find the Holoshimmer, let me know and I can get some for you. It's a bit pricey, about $5.00 a spool, but that contains a lot of thread. I wait until there is a 40 or 50% off coupon and get it then. Enjoy. I'll see if I can get it scanned and a picture sent off. Joyce - Show quoted text - On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering about posting a photo. Tony --- On *Wed, 11/3/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 7:54 PM On 11/3/2010 3:08 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Scofield minute midges Will you share the recipe for the Scofield minute midge, please Peggy B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
Larry, LOL, yeah, we do get your weather 2nd hand. I have driven through your area countless times, and I'm amazed at the fishing pressure your waters see. (Using the parking areas as a gage) We are seeing a spike here in Colorado traffic, which has always been heavy anyways. With the economy, shorter destinations are more feasible, and one of them is us and the Miracle Mile. Good News. Pathfinder is full again for the 1st time in 30 years of drought. The dam overflowed this year once again. Lots of water in Pathfinder means that the Miracle Mile can regain it's 'Glory Years' in that it produced so many fish that they opened up a commercial fishery and cannery right there near the dam. I've seen photos comparable to Flaming Gorge catches, except that these were daily occurances- hence the term- 'Miracle Mile'. And it's all accessible by ATV!! And you can stay in my camper and we can fish all day- dawn til dusk! DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock There are a lot of processes and color combinations, etc. that I never get into. I should, I suppose. By the way. I plan to retire after this school year, and would love to find some time to come up and fish some of the mystical waters of Wyoming. I can bring the 4-wheeler. You would only need to point me in a direction. And there are two or three places here in central Utah which deserve your attention for an afternoon or two. It won't happen if we don't make it happen. I have a harder time getting around lately, but I fished almost exclusively creeks and streams. (Love those beaver ponds. I pass the Provo by altogether because of all the traffic it gets. The fish in the Provo have seen everything a thousand times. When I watch the evening weather, I always feel the need to call you and tell you that you are welcome for the weather we sent to you after we had it here in Utah. LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 10:13 AM Larry, If you use and furs or even dark synthetics, and option to tying in a tinsel is using a very small clump of Quick-decent, which comes in many colors and I thing even a holo. It can even be roped or Norvised into peacock. Stretch it out fine and then spin it in. I use gold with my brown furs and silver with my gray furs to replace the flash of ribbing, but accentuate the segments. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock Joyce: If you are successful in scanning the fly, would you send the image to me also? Thanks. By the way, I use gold tinsel with peacock and brown hackle, not silver tinsel DonO and I are in a conversation regarding spinning versus noodling. Larry Johnson Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com 11/3/2010 8:47 PM The fly is Larry Johnson's pattern. He ties it with silver mylar rib, I did this with the green holographic holloshimmer..it is available at the JoAnne's fabric store in the thread department. It is actually a fine (goes through a sewing machine needle) mylar thread that comes in gold, silver both plain and holographic, two shades of green and red and copper. I love it for the fine ribbing of midges..it is very strong and adds a bit of flash. I'll see if I am successful in getting a copy of the midge on the scanner and send it to you..looks like the one Don tied. The pattern is quite simple: Scofield minute magic midge Hook: any dry fly Hackle: Brown..can be right size of a size larger Rib: Silver mylar or silver or colored Holoshimmer mylar thread. Thread: I use olive or red, depending on whether I rib with red or green or silver Body; 1-3 peacock herls, depending on the hook size. I tied these on a size 16 94840 Mustad, but you can use size to match what your're kicking up. Wrap a layer of thread, at the hook bend, tie in the hackle, peacock herl and mylar or Holoshimmer ribbing. Hold all three with your thread and spin the vise making a nice tight hairy chenille. Then spin the vise again and wind the chenille rope onto the hook, tie off, It's done. These are the flies that Larry tied at Sowbug I believe. A very effective fly. You can literally tie one in one minute. I fish them a lot. If you can't find the Holoshimmer, let me know and I can get some for you. It's a bit pricey, about $5.00 a spool, but that contains a lot of thread. I wait until there is a 40 or 50% off coupon and get it then. Enjoy. I'll see if I can get it scanned and a picture sent off. Joyce - Show quoted text - On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering about posting a photo. Tony --- On *Wed, 11/3/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net* wrote: From
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
Larry, There are two places here that deserve your attention, but lots of places to do well- in this near vicinity. Lake fishing sounds out for you, but I do fish them from time to time from the shores for big cruising females feed on crawfish. River-fishing is different. The N. Platte has been very privatized, but is highly prolific if you drift it. I have a Gruman wide Sport-canoe with outriggers that makes a very stable platform to fish from. You are welcome to come paddle me down the river any time. LOL The Miracle Mile can be floated, but we need to watch the flows and levels- lots of boulders sandbars. Some biggies can be caught, but most are little ones in the 12 to 20 range. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock There are a lot of processes and color combinations, etc. that I never get into. I should, I suppose. By the way. I plan to retire after this school year, and would love to find some time to come up and fish some of the mystical waters of Wyoming. I can bring the 4-wheeler. You would only need to point me in a direction. And there are two or three places here in central Utah which deserve your attention for an afternoon or two. It won't happen if we don't make it happen. I have a harder time getting around lately, but I fished almost exclusively creeks and streams. (Love those beaver ponds. I pass the Provo by altogether because of all the traffic it gets. The fish in the Provo have seen everything a thousand times. When I watch the evening weather, I always feel the need to call you and tell you that you are welcome for the weather we sent to you after we had it here in Utah. LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 10:13 AM Larry, If you use and furs or even dark synthetics, and option to tying in a tinsel is using a very small clump of Quick-decent, which comes in many colors and I thing even a holo. It can even be roped or Norvised into peacock. Stretch it out fine and then spin it in. I use gold with my brown furs and silver with my gray furs to replace the flash of ribbing, but accentuate the segments. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock Joyce: If you are successful in scanning the fly, would you send the image to me also? Thanks. By the way, I use gold tinsel with peacock and brown hackle, not silver tinsel DonO and I are in a conversation regarding spinning versus noodling. Larry Johnson Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com 11/3/2010 8:47 PM The fly is Larry Johnson's pattern. He ties it with silver mylar rib, I did this with the green holographic holloshimmer..it is available at the JoAnne's fabric store in the thread department. It is actually a fine (goes through a sewing machine needle) mylar thread that comes in gold, silver both plain and holographic, two shades of green and red and copper. I love it for the fine ribbing of midges..it is very strong and adds a bit of flash. I'll see if I am successful in getting a copy of the midge on the scanner and send it to you..looks like the one Don tied. The pattern is quite simple: Scofield minute magic midge Hook: any dry fly Hackle: Brown..can be right size of a size larger Rib: Silver mylar or silver or colored Holoshimmer mylar thread. Thread: I use olive or red, depending on whether I rib with red or green or silver Body; 1-3 peacock herls, depending on the hook size. I tied these on a size 16 94840 Mustad, but you can use size to match what your're kicking up. Wrap a layer of thread, at the hook bend, tie in the hackle, peacock herl and mylar or Holoshimmer ribbing. Hold all three with your thread and spin the vise making a nice tight hairy chenille. Then spin the vise again and wind the chenille rope onto the hook, tie off, It's done. These are the flies that Larry tied at Sowbug I believe. A very effective fly. You can literally tie one in one minute. I fish them a lot. If you can't find the Holoshimmer, let me know and I can get some for you. It's a bit pricey, about $5.00 a spool, but that contains a lot of thread. I wait until there is a 40 or 50% off coupon and get it then. Enjoy. I'll see if I can get it scanned and a picture sent off. Joyce - Show quoted text - On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering about posting a photo. Tony --- On *Wed, 11/3/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 7:54 PM On 11/3/2010 3:08 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Scofield
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
Let's keep this in mind. You will need to let me know what flies to bring LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 11:17 AM Larry, There are two places here that deserve your attention, but lots of places to do well- in this near vicinity. Lake fishing sounds out for you, but I do fish them from time to time from the shores for big cruising females feed on crawfish. River-fishing is different. The N. Platte has been very privatized, but is highly prolific if you drift it. I have a Gruman wide Sport-canoe with outriggers that makes a very stable platform to fish from. You are welcome to come paddle me down the river any time. LOL The Miracle Mile can be floated, but we need to watch the flows and levels- lots of boulders sandbars. Some biggies can be caught, but most are little ones in the 12 to 20 range. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock There are a lot of processes and color combinations, etc. that I never get into. I should, I suppose. By the way. I plan to retire after this school year, and would love to find some time to come up and fish some of the mystical waters of Wyoming. I can bring the 4-wheeler. You would only need to point me in a direction. And there are two or three places here in central Utah which deserve your attention for an afternoon or two. It won't happen if we don't make it happen. I have a harder time getting around lately, but I fished almost exclusively creeks and streams. (Love those beaver ponds. I pass the Provo by altogether because of all the traffic it gets. The fish in the Provo have seen everything a thousand times. When I watch the evening weather, I always feel the need to call you and tell you that you are welcome for the weather we sent to you after we had it here in Utah. LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 10:13 AM Larry, If you use and furs or even dark synthetics, and option to tying in a tinsel is using a very small clump of Quick-decent, which comes in many colors and I thing even a holo. It can even be roped or Norvised into peacock. Stretch it out fine and then spin it in. I use gold with my brown furs and silver with my gray furs to replace the flash of ribbing, but accentuate the segments. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock Joyce: If you are successful in scanning the fly, would you send the image to me also? Thanks. By the way, I use gold tinsel with peacock and brown hackle, not silver tinsel DonO and I are in a conversation regarding spinning versus noodling. Larry Johnson Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com 11/3/2010 8:47 PM The fly is Larry Johnson's pattern. He ties it with silver mylar rib, I did this with the green holographic holloshimmer..it is available at the JoAnne's fabric store in the thread department. It is actually a fine (goes through a sewing machine needle) mylar thread that comes in gold, silver both plain and holographic, two shades of green and red and copper. I love it for the fine ribbing of midges..it is very strong and adds a bit of flash. I'll see if I am successful in getting a copy of the midge on the scanner and send it to you..looks like the one Don tied. The pattern is quite simple: Scofield minute magic midge Hook: any dry fly Hackle: Brown..can be right size of a size larger Rib: Silver mylar or silver or colored Holoshimmer mylar thread. Thread: I use olive or red, depending on whether I rib with red or green or silver Body; 1-3 peacock herls, depending on the hook size. I tied these on a size 16 94840 Mustad, but you can use size to match what your're kicking up. Wrap a layer of thread, at the hook bend, tie in the hackle, peacock herl and mylar or Holoshimmer ribbing. Hold all three with your thread and spin the vise making a nice tight hairy chenille. Then spin the vise again and wind the chenille rope onto the hook, tie off, It's done. These are the flies that Larry tied at Sowbug I believe. A very effective fly. You can literally tie one in one minute. I fish them a lot. If you can't find the Holoshimmer, let me know and I can get some for you. It's a bit pricey, about $5.00 a spool, but that contains a lot of thread. I wait until there is a 40 or 50% off coupon and get it then. Enjoy. I'll see if I can get it scanned and a picture sent off. Joyce - Show quoted text - On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering about posting a photo. Tony --- On *Wed, 11/3/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
LJ The 'Greenies' have been training our fish to eat tiny midges, but we used to catch them on large stones, that peacock half-back (photo), mohair leeches, vanilla-buggers, and streamers. Midges like #18 pheasant tails are productive on a short-line technique. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock Let's keep this in mind. You will need to let me know what flies to bring LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 11:17 AM Larry, There are two places here that deserve your attention, but lots of places to do well- in this near vicinity. Lake fishing sounds out for you, but I do fish them from time to time from the shores for big cruising females feed on crawfish. River-fishing is different. The N. Platte has been very privatized, but is highly prolific if you drift it. I have a Gruman wide Sport-canoe with outriggers that makes a very stable platform to fish from. You are welcome to come paddle me down the river any time. LOL The Miracle Mile can be floated, but we need to watch the flows and levels- lots of boulders sandbars. Some biggies can be caught, but most are little ones in the 12 to 20 range. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock There are a lot of processes and color combinations, etc. that I never get into. I should, I suppose. By the way. I plan to retire after this school year, and would love to find some time to come up and fish some of the mystical waters of Wyoming. I can bring the 4-wheeler. You would only need to point me in a direction. And there are two or three places here in central Utah which deserve your attention for an afternoon or two. It won't happen if we don't make it happen. I have a harder time getting around lately, but I fished almost exclusively creeks and streams. (Love those beaver ponds. I pass the Provo by altogether because of all the traffic it gets. The fish in the Provo have seen everything a thousand times. When I watch the evening weather, I always feel the need to call you and tell you that you are welcome for the weather we sent to you after we had it here in Utah. LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 10:13 AM Larry, If you use and furs or even dark synthetics, and option to tying in a tinsel is using a very small clump of Quick-decent, which comes in many colors and I thing even a holo. It can even be roped or Norvised into peacock. Stretch it out fine and then spin it in. I use gold with my brown furs and silver with my gray furs to replace the flash of ribbing, but accentuate the segments. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock Joyce: If you are successful in scanning the fly, would you send the image to me also? Thanks. By the way, I use gold tinsel with peacock and brown hackle, not silver tinsel DonO and I are in a conversation regarding spinning versus noodling. Larry Johnson Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com 11/3/2010 8:47 PM The fly is Larry Johnson's pattern. He ties it with silver mylar rib, I did this with the green holographic holloshimmer..it is available at the JoAnne's fabric store in the thread department. It is actually a fine (goes through a sewing machine needle) mylar thread that comes in gold, silver both plain and holographic, two shades of green and red and copper. I love it for the fine ribbing of midges..it is very strong and adds a bit of flash. I'll see if I am successful in getting a copy of the midge on the scanner and send it to you..looks like the one Don tied. The pattern is quite simple: Scofield minute magic midge Hook: any dry fly Hackle: Brown..can be right size of a size larger Rib: Silver mylar or silver or colored Holoshimmer mylar thread. Thread: I use olive or red, depending on whether I rib with red or green or silver Body; 1-3 peacock herls, depending on the hook size. I tied these on a size 16 94840 Mustad, but you can use size to match what your're kicking up. Wrap a layer of thread, at the hook bend, tie in the hackle, peacock herl and mylar or Holoshimmer ribbing. Hold all three with your thread and spin the vise making a nice tight hairy chenille. Then spin the vise again and wind the chenille rope onto the hook, tie off, It's done. These are the flies that Larry tied at Sowbug I believe. A very effective fly. You can literally tie one in one minute. I fish them a lot. If you can't find the Holoshimmer, let me know and I can get some for you. It's a bit pricey, about $5.00 a spool, but that contains a lot
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
OK LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 11:50 AM LJ The 'Greenies' have been training our fish to eat tiny midges, but we used to catch them on large stones, that peacock half-back (photo), mohair leeches, vanilla-buggers, and streamers. Midges like #18 pheasant tails are productive on a short-line technique. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock Let's keep this in mind. You will need to let me know what flies to bring LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 11:17 AM Larry, There are two places here that deserve your attention, but lots of places to do well- in this near vicinity. Lake fishing sounds out for you, but I do fish them from time to time from the shores for big cruising females feed on crawfish. River-fishing is different. The N. Platte has been very privatized, but is highly prolific if you drift it. I have a Gruman wide Sport-canoe with outriggers that makes a very stable platform to fish from. You are welcome to come paddle me down the river any time. LOL The Miracle Mile can be floated, but we need to watch the flows and levels- lots of boulders sandbars. Some biggies can be caught, but most are little ones in the 12 to 20 range. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock There are a lot of processes and color combinations, etc. that I never get into. I should, I suppose. By the way. I plan to retire after this school year, and would love to find some time to come up and fish some of the mystical waters of Wyoming. I can bring the 4-wheeler. You would only need to point me in a direction. And there are two or three places here in central Utah which deserve your attention for an afternoon or two. It won't happen if we don't make it happen. I have a harder time getting around lately, but I fished almost exclusively creeks and streams. (Love those beaver ponds. I pass the Provo by altogether because of all the traffic it gets. The fish in the Provo have seen everything a thousand times. When I watch the evening weather, I always feel the need to call you and tell you that you are welcome for the weather we sent to you after we had it here in Utah. LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/4/2010 10:13 AM Larry, If you use and furs or even dark synthetics, and option to tying in a tinsel is using a very small clump of Quick-decent, which comes in many colors and I thing even a holo. It can even be roped or Norvised into peacock. Stretch it out fine and then spin it in. I use gold with my brown furs and silver with my gray furs to replace the flash of ribbing, but accentuate the segments. DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock Joyce: If you are successful in scanning the fly, would you send the image to me also? Thanks. By the way, I use gold tinsel with peacock and brown hackle, not silver tinsel DonO and I are in a conversation regarding spinning versus noodling. Larry Johnson Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com 11/3/2010 8:47 PM The fly is Larry Johnson's pattern. He ties it with silver mylar rib, I did this with the green holographic holloshimmer..it is available at the JoAnne's fabric store in the thread department. It is actually a fine (goes through a sewing machine needle) mylar thread that comes in gold, silver both plain and holographic, two shades of green and red and copper. I love it for the fine ribbing of midges..it is very strong and adds a bit of flash. I'll see if I am successful in getting a copy of the midge on the scanner and send it to you..looks like the one Don tied. The pattern is quite simple: Scofield minute magic midge Hook: any dry fly Hackle: Brown..can be right size of a size larger Rib: Silver mylar or silver or colored Holoshimmer mylar thread. Thread: I use olive or red, depending on whether I rib with red or green or silver Body; 1-3 peacock herls, depending on the hook size. I tied these on a size 16 94840 Mustad, but you can use size to match what your're kicking up. Wrap a layer of thread, at the hook bend, tie in the hackle, peacock herl and mylar or Holoshimmer ribbing. Hold all three with your thread and spin the vise making a nice tight hairy chenille. Then spin the vise again and wind the chenille rope onto the hook, tie off, It's done. These are the flies that Larry tied at Sowbug I believe. A very effective fly. You can literally tie one in one minute. I fish them a lot
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
Don: I know that you are a great advocate of the rope-dub technique. I have been doing the same thing you are doing with the peacock and hackle for years on my Nor-Vise. I add a strip of narrow tinsel to it. I fish it like that, or use it as a body for a caddis or mayfly, etc. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/3/2010 11:18 AM For Rope-dubbers: Below is just a little of what can be done with rope-dubbing peacock, hackle, and dubbing. This is a local pattern called a half-back nymph. I tied the wing-case on and left it in a post-type position. I roped the peacock over wire in a 50/50 bare/hackle set-up. When I wrapped forward, the hackle started at the wingcase and finished at the bead. I then pulled the wing forward and tied off. The hackling looks different than a palmered version (see close-up below) and is tooth-proof. (See portion way below) Compressed, dense hackle^ This is a size 26 peacock fly, using the fine- but weak- iridescent green feathers above the peacock eye. It much stronger when roped with a strong core thread. Your peacock can be furled so tight that it will furl on itself. I was never able to get it this tight twisting the wire with the peacock as the wire would break, as it is too brittle to twist. Above is an assortment of approaches. Don't forget that your rope can be compressed to make it thicker and this bunches up the hackles, making them denser. (photo #2) The hackle can be introduced at any part of the fly, or on the whole fly. This photo above demonstrates the durability of a wire-cored peacock/hackle fly. I took a small saw and chewed off the peacock and hackle all the way down the the core. The fly still cannot come unravelled- either the peacock or the hackle. Actually, I have a couple like this I use as patterns with copper-colored wire segments showing. I do this saw-demo at all the shows. Chuck has gotten a ton of these demo-flies to salvage the hooks. Go ahead and ask any questions. DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
As have I. Just finished 3 dozen Scofield minute midges for the flyboxes, using green holographic Holloshimmer..they are great looking and fishing great on Hobble Creek. Joyce On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu wrote: Don: I know that you are a great advocate of the rope-dub technique. I have been doing the same thing you are doing with the peacock and hackle for years on my Nor-Vise. I add a strip of narrow tinsel to it. I fish it like that, or use it as a body for a caddis or mayfly, etc. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/3/2010 11:18 AM For Rope-dubbers: Below is just a little of what can be done with rope-dubbing peacock, hackle, and dubbing. This is a local pattern called a half-back nymph. I tied the wing-case on and left it in a post-type position. I roped the peacock over wire in a 50/50 bare/hackle set-up. When I wrapped forward, the hackle started at the wingcase and finished at the bead. I then pulled the wing forward and tied off. The hackling looks different than a palmered version (see close-up below) and is tooth-proof. (See portion way below) Compressed, dense hackle^ This is a size 26 peacock fly, using the fine- but weak- iridescent green feathers above the peacock eye. It much stronger when roped with a strong core thread. Your peacock can be furled so tight that it will furl on itself. I was never able to get it this tight twisting the wire with the peacock as the wire would break, as it is too brittle to twist. Above is an assortment of approaches. Don't forget that your rope can be compressed to make it thicker and this bunches up the hackles, making them denser. (photo #2) The hackle can be introduced at any part of the fly, or on the whole fly. This photo above demonstrates the durability of a wire-cored peacock/hackle fly. I took a small saw and chewed off the peacock and hackle all the way down the the core. The fly still cannot come unravelled- either the peacock or the hackle. Actually, I have a couple like this I use as patterns with copper-colored wire segments showing. I do this saw-demo at all the shows. Chuck has gotten a ton of these demo-flies to salvage the hooks. Go ahead and ask any questions. DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
On 11/3/2010 3:08 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Scofield minute midges Will you share the recipe for the Scofield minute midge, please Peggy B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock
I was wondering about posting a photo. Tony --- On Wed, 11/3/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- Fly of the Week- peacock To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 7:54 PM On 11/3/2010 3:08 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Scofield minute midges Will you share the recipe for the Scofield minute midge, please Peggy B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
