Re: [videoblogging] chuck, Chasingmills, Me, etc on youtube

2007-01-24 Thread duncan
ok, i sill can't find it!
Is youtube regional these days.
I looked at the homepage, i searched for josh leo, candy, online, h and r..
but no luck.
where is everyone looking?
i like to see the videos people made!

be well

d

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Re: [videoblogging] Paid Subscription + CMS

2007-01-24 Thread Rupert
Ron,

I have some experience with selling music over iTunes.  I suspect  
that a lot of this applies to selling video on iTunes.  If you go to  
iTunes personally by filling in their online form, it can take six  
months or more to get your music onto the store because they have  
such a backlog of private applications to get through... and  
apparently sometimes they just never get back to you.  So the best  
thing to do is to use a distributor/aggregator.  However, most of  
them will screw you on rights, TC and charges.  The company we chose  
(no personal association, just did research) was Tunecore, whose big  
selling point is that they don't take ANY rights or royalties,  
whereas other companies like CDBaby and The Orchard have sneakier  
TCs.   Tunecore don't advertise a video service, but it might be  
worth getting in touch with them to see if they can do it for you if  
you choose the iTunes route.  Or there may be other companies that  
specialise in video distribution to iTunes etc, but beware TCs.

Rupert

http://www.fatgirlinohio.org

On 24 Jan 2007, at 02:57, Ron Watson wrote:

I am wondering what iTunes has to off the little
guy. ...iTunes...hmmm. Anybody have any experience navigating the
iTunes pay for play scheme?

I'm going to look into that right now. How many people would pay a
few bucks to learn to teach their dog learn to retrieve in just a few
minutes?

Any help or discussion would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Ron Watson



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Help Retrieving Google, YouTube and other Videos.

2007-01-24 Thread Rupert
Remember that the NARA material was paid for by US taxpayers, and so  
the argument would have been made that it wrong to freely distribute  
it globally without adequate return or protection.BALLS.

This is where people who understand and care need to make their  
voices heard.  The people making the decisions in places like the  
NARA just DON'T UNDERSTAND what's at stake, and what the  
opportunities are.

And I think you're right to be angry at Google, David - they are  
pushing a form of DRM for their own commercial gain when they  
*should* be advising NARA to set the content free.  Don't do evil -  
hmm.  Google could easily make money from it in other, less empire- 
building ways.   I am in no doubt that the committees in the NARA  
that chose this route did not have a good understanding of the future  
of media distribution and the potential importance of their  
decision.  They will be stuck in an old-media mentality, listening to  
their advisers: Google.

We are about to face a similar problem in the UK.  The BBC are  
putting their massive archive online, and they are obsessed with DRM.  
In the UK, everyone with a TV pays a $200+ license fee (tax) each  
year to fund the BBC.  It has no commercials or sponsors.  It's OURS.

The BBC website is beautiful, but the BBC is a massive bureaucratic,  
old-media beast and its management are locked in an outmoded mindset,  
and are choosing their technology based on this.  They have rejected  
Quicktime and Flash as formats because they have been told that they  
don't have adequate DRM or quality - I suspect that they have been  
sold a line by Microsoft.  They have been ramping up their rights  
clauses in their contracts with independent producers, being very  
hardline about negotiation on this, and are terrified of being  
accused of 'giving away' content paid for by taxpayers without  
getting adequate return.  This was a massive opportunity for them and  
for all of us, and it looks like they're going to blow it.  And they  
are very poorly advised.  And all of us have to sit back and watch.

Are there pressure groups or organisations with strong voices who  
believe in protecting public domain media and encouraging free  
internet distribution for this kind of stuff?

Rupert

http://www.fatgirlinohio.org


On 24 Jan 2007, at 02:02, David wrote:

You are correct on one point: I should be (and I am) irritated at
NARA for its inaction in making these materials widely available.
That content is ours: yours, mine and everyone's. That's part of my
motivation for making the video and disseminating the methods you can
use to gain access to your cultural heritage. It's naive to think
that Google gets no benefit from digitizing and serving these
materials. If they were doing it as a public service then they would
make the material available in an open source, freely available,
editable format. They've gone to extra expense to fence it off. The
reason they're keeping it in a proprietary format is because they see
profit in doing so, both presently and in the future. At present
they benefit from increased traffic, so your assertion that they are
losing money is not proven. And, besides, they're not making the
material available, they're making it viewable. Unless you use the
methods outlined in my cartoon or some form of screenscraping, those
materials aren't available to you for your use, they're only viewable
by you, through the Google player or on the Google website. And I
remind you that the content we're discussing is public domain. It
belongs to everyone. I think it's justifiable to get angry at a
giant corporation for appropriating a public asset, especially since
the corporation in question, Google, has gone to great lengths to
advertise itself as a humane, benevolent, progressive company, a
guardian of our digital rights and well being.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joey Profit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
  Not to play devils advocate (but I'm going to) your anger at google
  seems unjustified. I'm not sure what hoops you have to jump through
  to gain access to a file or video in the NARA but I'm willing to bet
  there is a cost associated with retrieving said information. Even
if
  it's as simple as paying a guy or gal to pull the tape off a rack.
  Should the archive itself pay those fees? Maybe. They probably make
  you jump through hoops as a deterrent. I'm willing to bet that
google
  pays a fee to obtain copies of those films. Or has hired lawyers
and
  others to jump through the hoops. That being said who are you to
  dictate how google retransmits that data. Google isn't making any
  money off of putting that video up on Google Video. In fact, if
  anything they are losing money just by making it available in the
  first place. Bandwidth costs etc. So who should you be upset with?
  probably the NARA for not putting the content on line and free for
  people to download.
 
  On 23/01/07, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hey 

[videoblogging] Re: chuck, Chasingmills, Me, etc on youtube

2007-01-24 Thread Mike Moon
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I tried to find it since it was on the main page, no luck here either.

OKAY, stop the presses. I found it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpmMb6zfmoA

Mike


 ok, i sill can't find it!
 Is youtube regional these days.
 I looked at the homepage, i searched for josh leo, candy, online, h
and r..
 but no luck.
 where is everyone looking?
 i like to see the videos people made!
 
 be well
 
 d
 
 -- 
 http://duncanspeakman.net
 http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: chuck, Chasingmills, Me, etc on youtube

2007-01-24 Thread duncan
ahh.. i didn't know to search for taxcut.
thanks mike!


d



On 24/01/07, Mike Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I tried to find it since it was on the main page, no luck here either.

 OKAY, stop the presses. I found it.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpmMb6zfmoA

 Mike


 
  ok, i sill can't find it!
  Is youtube regional these days.
  I looked at the homepage, i searched for josh leo, candy, online, h
 and r..
  but no luck.
  where is everyone looking?
  i like to see the videos people made!
 
  be well
 
  d
 
  --
  http://duncanspeakman.net
  http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: podcasting in iTunes - question

2007-01-24 Thread Gromik Tohoku
Dear Videobloggers,

At the moment I am trying to learn to podcast via
iTunes. This morning, I followed the freevlog video
tutorial and managed to organise feedburner and an RSS
button for one of the blogs.

What I would really like to do by the end of this year
is to have all my film making students available for
viewing through iTunes so that any EFL student can
download the films on iPods for free.

Catch is how do I do that? I have started searching on
the net (wikipedia), and I am a little lost. I am
waiting for one of the books recommended on this site
to arrive.

Can anyone provide any good links that would speed up
the process? I use Windows XP, is that a problem?

Thanks for any guidance with this project,
Greatly appreciated,
Nicolas


Gromik Nicolas
Tohoku University
Sendai, Japan
fax=81-22-7647

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Re: [videoblogging] Paid Subscription + CMS

2007-01-24 Thread Joshua Kinberg
You can sell media with Cruxy.com, which was developed by Nathan
Freitas, who is on this list.
Definitely check it out.

-josh


On 1/24/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ron,

 I have some experience with selling music over iTunes.  I suspect
 that a lot of this applies to selling video on iTunes.  If you go to
 iTunes personally by filling in their online form, it can take six
 months or more to get your music onto the store because they have
 such a backlog of private applications to get through... and
 apparently sometimes they just never get back to you.  So the best
 thing to do is to use a distributor/aggregator.  However, most of
 them will screw you on rights, TC and charges.  The company we chose
 (no personal association, just did research) was Tunecore, whose big
 selling point is that they don't take ANY rights or royalties,
 whereas other companies like CDBaby and The Orchard have sneakier
 TCs.   Tunecore don't advertise a video service, but it might be
 worth getting in touch with them to see if they can do it for you if
 you choose the iTunes route.  Or there may be other companies that
 specialise in video distribution to iTunes etc, but beware TCs.

 Rupert

 http://www.fatgirlinohio.org

 On 24 Jan 2007, at 02:57, Ron Watson wrote:

 I am wondering what iTunes has to off the little
 guy. ...iTunes...hmmm. Anybody have any experience navigating the
 iTunes pay for play scheme?

 I'm going to look into that right now. How many people would pay a
 few bucks to learn to teach their dog learn to retrieve in just a few
 minutes?

 Any help or discussion would be appreciated.

 Cheers,

 Ron Watson



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[videoblogging] Re: Custom player skin

2007-01-24 Thread Bill Streeter
Also Divx has a tool that will do this. I saw a demo of it at CES. 
And of course there is Flash.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 around the 24/1/07 J. Rhett Aultman mentioned about 
[videoblogging] 
 Custom player skin that:
 We're considering putting our videos of last year on a CD so we 
can give
 them out to people we meet. Since our videos end up in 320x240, we
 can't make a DVD and have it look decent on a TV. We'd like to 
have
 some DVD-like features, though, like menus and whatnot. We 
thought it'd
 be neat if there was some app out there that might let us make a
 skinnable media player that would show a menu of our videos and 
play
 them in a 320x240 window on people's computers. Does anyone know 
if
 anything like this exists?
 
 QT supports skinned movies. Something like videoclix probably 
 supports it URL: http://www.elinetech.com/videoclix_main.html  
or 
 there's the tutorial at apple: URL: 
 http://www.apple.com/quicktime/tutorials/mediaskins.html 
 -- 
 cheers
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[videoblogging] Re: viewing flash videos

2007-01-24 Thread Bill Streeter
You mean the FLV files? Fireant and Democracy will play FLV files, 
and you can convert them to another format to view with a tool 
called iSquint.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, miglsd27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I bought a MacBook, and all is fine and sweet. Except for my flash 
movies. In my previous 
 iBook, I used to view them in Niceplayer and it worked well. But 
with the new Mac, I can´t 
 seem to find an App that allows me to watch the flash videos I 
downloaded. Any thoughts?
 
 One more thing. In a cheap dv camera, that yellow hole that says 
AV or something, does that 
 allow you to plug a set of headphones there? What do you use it 
for?
 
 Miguel.





Re: [videoblogging] Paid Subscription + CMS

2007-01-24 Thread Rupert
that looks like a Very Cool Site.  never heard of it.  thanks.

it's depressing, though.  how can there be so many cool things to  
check out and so little time?  and i only hear about 0.001% of them.   
how do people manage to be clued up about stuff AND pay their bills  
AND tie their shoes?

On 24 Jan 2007, at 15:38, Joshua Kinberg wrote:

You can sell media with Cruxy.com, which was developed by Nathan
Freitas, who is on this list.
Definitely check it out.

-josh

On 1/24/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ron,
 
  I have some experience with selling music over iTunes. I suspect
  that a lot of this applies to selling video on iTunes. If you go to
  iTunes personally by filling in their online form, it can take six
  months or more to get your music onto the store because they have
  such a backlog of private applications to get through... and
  apparently sometimes they just never get back to you. So the best
  thing to do is to use a distributor/aggregator. However, most of
  them will screw you on rights, TC and charges. The company we chose
  (no personal association, just did research) was Tunecore, whose big
  selling point is that they don't take ANY rights or royalties,
  whereas other companies like CDBaby and The Orchard have sneakier
  TCs. Tunecore don't advertise a video service, but it might be
  worth getting in touch with them to see if they can do it for you if
  you choose the iTunes route. Or there may be other companies that
  specialise in video distribution to iTunes etc, but beware TCs.
 
  Rupert
 
  http://www.fatgirlinohio.org
 
  On 24 Jan 2007, at 02:57, Ron Watson wrote:
 
  I am wondering what iTunes has to off the little
  guy. ...iTunes...hmmm. Anybody have any experience navigating the
  iTunes pay for play scheme?
 
  I'm going to look into that right now. How many people would pay a
  few bucks to learn to teach their dog learn to retrieve in just a few
  minutes?
 
  Any help or discussion would be appreciated.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Ron Watson
 
 
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 





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[videoblogging] Re: viewing flash videos

2007-01-24 Thread Philip Clark
hi miguel

download yourself a free copy of the perian component, and then you can play 
.flv files 
right in quicktime. it's quite nice

http://perian.org/

the a/v jack is often used for plugging the camera into a television. an a/v 
cable splits into 
three rca-style plugs. the red and white deliver stereo sound, and the yellow 
delivers the 
video signal. 

--
xo philip
http://swordfight.org


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, miglsd27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I bought a MacBook, and all is fine and sweet. Except for my flash movies. In 
 my 
previous 
 iBook, I used to view them in Niceplayer and it worked well. But with the new 
 Mac, I can
´t 
 seem to find an App that allows me to watch the flash videos I downloaded. 
 Any 
thoughts?
 
 One more thing. In a cheap dv camera, that yellow hole that says AV or 
 something, does 
that 
 allow you to plug a set of headphones there? What do you use it for?
 
 Miguel.





[videoblogging] Re: Help Retrieving Google, YouTube and other Videos.

2007-01-24 Thread David
As good as its programming can be I've heard the BBC referred to as 
the Big Bully on Campus.  I'm not sure the method in the cartoon 
gets around Google's subscription DRM player encryption and all 
that.  I only know that when I've gone looking for public domain 
footage on google -- say of the flag-raising on Iwo Jima -- I can 
only get at the material if I use the steps I've outlined to access 
the physical file and then transcode it to something I can use.  
Those steps may be mundane to some.  But it took me awhile to 
discover a way to access that material.  My motivation in making the 
cartoon was not to bring down Google's stock price, but to share the 
information with my fellow videobloggers in case anyone has been 
frothing at the mouth to get that archival footage.  

I'm pretty sure that the US public domain material, newsreels and 
such produced by the US government, are considered worldwide public 
domain so they are yours too even though you're a Brit.

It's not really clear to a lot of folks if Google's library project 
is good or bad.  On the plus side it could increase access to content 
a lot.  On the negative side, libraries have traditionally been non-
profit organizations whose mission is to increase the public good of 
access to information.  Critics argue that Google is a private 
enterprise whose mission is profit maximization and that can put it 
at odds with the public weal.  Further they point out that google has 
been fairly secretive about what it's doing and it's using an opt-out 
strategy.  Opt out is ethically problematic.  People on this list 
should be familiar with opt-out's drawbacks: think MyHeavy.com and 
others.  There are more subtle but real problems surrounding issues 
of search ranking and fairness. 

In truth, I made the cartoon and publicized it here because as 
content creators the disposition, use and misuse of information 
concerns this community.  I also thought some of my colleagues might 
like to get at that public domain video as I have wanted to in the 
past.  

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and support Rupert.  More videos of 
your daughter doing obsessive things, please.  

Cheers

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that the NARA material was paid for by US taxpayers, and 
so  
 the argument would have been made that it wrong to freely 
distribute  
 it globally without adequate return or protection.BALLS.
 
 This is where people who understand and care need to make their  
 voices heard.  The people making the decisions in places like the  
 NARA just DON'T UNDERSTAND what's at stake, and what the  
 opportunities are.
 
 And I think you're right to be angry at Google, David - they are  
 pushing a form of DRM for their own commercial gain when they  
 *should* be advising NARA to set the content free.  Don't do 
evil -  
 hmm.  Google could easily make money from it in other, less empire- 
 building ways.   I am in no doubt that the committees in the NARA  
 that chose this route did not have a good understanding of the 
future  
 of media distribution and the potential importance of their  
 decision.  They will be stuck in an old-media mentality, listening 
to  
 their advisers: Google.
 
 We are about to face a similar problem in the UK.  The BBC are  
 putting their massive archive online, and they are obsessed with 
DRM.  
 In the UK, everyone with a TV pays a $200+ license fee (tax) each  
 year to fund the BBC.  It has no commercials or sponsors.  It's 
OURS.
 
 The BBC website is beautiful, but the BBC is a massive 
bureaucratic,  
 old-media beast and its management are locked in an outmoded 
mindset,  
 and are choosing their technology based on this.  They have 
rejected  
 Quicktime and Flash as formats because they have been told that 
they  
 don't have adequate DRM or quality - I suspect that they have been  
 sold a line by Microsoft.  They have been ramping up their rights  
 clauses in their contracts with independent producers, being very  
 hardline about negotiation on this, and are terrified of being  
 accused of 'giving away' content paid for by taxpayers without  
 getting adequate return.  This was a massive opportunity for them 
and  
 for all of us, and it looks like they're going to blow it.  And 
they  
 are very poorly advised.  And all of us have to sit back and watch.
 
 Are there pressure groups or organisations with strong voices who  
 believe in protecting public domain media and encouraging free  
 internet distribution for this kind of stuff?
 
 Rupert
 
 http://www.fatgirlinohio.org
 
 
 On 24 Jan 2007, at 02:02, David wrote:
 
 You are correct on one point: I should be (and I am) irritated at
 NARA for its inaction in making these materials widely available.
 That content is ours: yours, mine and everyone's. That's part of my
 motivation for making the video and disseminating the methods you 
can
 use to gain access to your cultural heritage. It's naive 

[videoblogging] Re: Paid Subscription + CMS

2007-01-24 Thread David
That's a good resource.  Thanks Josh.  

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 You can sell media with Cruxy.com, which was developed by Nathan
 Freitas, who is on this list.
 Definitely check it out.
 
 -josh
 
 
 On 1/24/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ron,
 
  I have some experience with selling music over iTunes.  I suspect
  that a lot of this applies to selling video on iTunes.  If you go 
to
  iTunes personally by filling in their online form, it can take six
  months or more to get your music onto the store because they have
  such a backlog of private applications to get through... and
  apparently sometimes they just never get back to you.  So the best
  thing to do is to use a distributor/aggregator.  However, most of
  them will screw you on rights, TC and charges.  The company we 
chose
  (no personal association, just did research) was Tunecore, whose 
big
  selling point is that they don't take ANY rights or royalties,
  whereas other companies like CDBaby and The Orchard have sneakier
  TCs.   Tunecore don't advertise a video service, but it might be
  worth getting in touch with them to see if they can do it for you 
if
  you choose the iTunes route.  Or there may be other companies that
  specialise in video distribution to iTunes etc, but beware TCs.
 
  Rupert
 
  http://www.fatgirlinohio.org
 
  On 24 Jan 2007, at 02:57, Ron Watson wrote:
 
  I am wondering what iTunes has to off the little
  guy. ...iTunes...hmmm. Anybody have any experience navigating the
  iTunes pay for play scheme?
 
  I'm going to look into that right now. How many people would pay a
  few bucks to learn to teach their dog learn to retrieve in just a 
few
  minutes?
 
  Any help or discussion would be appreciated.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Ron Watson
 
 
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 





[videoblogging] How2 TV: Episode 2 - Sound

2007-01-24 Thread Bill Cammack
http://www.mnn.org/en/node/705

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[videoblogging] video sites that pay

2007-01-24 Thread WWWhatsup



There's a piece on Boing Boing today about a new book on
the topic of video sites that pay on the web

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/01/23/video_websites_that_.html


book:
http://stores.lulu.com/kirsner

sample:
http://www.scottkirsner.com/webvid/gettingpaid.htm

joly

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[videoblogging] Re: Paid Subscription + CMS

2007-01-24 Thread ~ FluxRostrum
This model does not work for everyone.
It is the right way for things to work in a just world... 
too bad we don't live in one.

I suppose it could be the difference between giving people something they want
and giving them something they need.

solidarity,
FluxRostrum
Fluxview.com


Re: Paid Subscription + CMS
 Posted by: Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] filmguy1105
 Date: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:06 pm ((PST))

You could also try giving the videos away for free and make money from the
opportunities that arise from that (that's what happened to a number of
bloggers and some vloggers).

-Verdi

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[videoblogging] Re: Help Retrieving Google, YouTube and other Videos.

2007-01-24 Thread Steve Watkins
Funny that the BBC is mentioned. Like any large institution they have
a certain amount of power, but this is counteracted somewhat by so
many people being interested in influencing what they do with their
mammoth size.

Just today I saw this story about how Ofcom (the UK regulator) is
telling the BBC off for some of its planned Video Download services -
 Ofcom want it to be even more restrictive, so that it doesnt unfairly
harm the commercial competitors to the BBC, and so that it doesnt
impact too much on things like DVD sales. So they are advising the BBC
to make the content timeout and dissapear from users computers even
more quickly than the BBC had planned.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6290745.stm

As a BBC license fee payer, I am resigned to the fact that just
beccause we pay for it, doesnt currently give us entitlement to use
all BBC footage however we like. We contribute to production costs,
and we get to watch their stuff, and technically the right to keep it
for a certain period of time. If we want to have permanent access to
it, we have to buy the DVD. I would like this to change but I cant
expect it to happen in isolation, the argument about it harming
commercial rivals will carry weight with those who get the power to
make these decisions. And if it were freely available worldwide, the
argument about us paying license fee to subsidise the rest of the
world would arise. 

We shpould also be aware that current BBC footage isnt really akin to
stuff that in the public domain. Its fine to make an argument that it
should be, but as things stand right now the stuff about google DRMing
public domain stuff is not directly comparable with commercial or
nation-owned companies DRMing their copyrighted content. 

Personally as someone who is not an optimist about things in the
medium term, I expect injustices like this stuff to become
inconsequentioal compared to the horrors ahead. I think its more
likely that 'media will become free' because the industry that
currently produces it will collapse over time with much of the rest of
our modern economy  society, rather than as a result to some new
enlightened approach to our very ideas about 'owning' creative content.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As good as its programming can be I've heard the BBC referred to as 
 the Big Bully on Campus.  
  
  We are about to face a similar problem in the UK.  The BBC are  
  putting their massive archive online, and they are obsessed with 
 DRM.  
  In the UK, everyone with a TV pays a $200+ license fee (tax) each  
  year to fund the BBC.  It has no commercials or sponsors.  It's 
 OURS.
  
  The BBC website is beautiful, but the BBC is a massive 
 bureaucratic,  
  old-media beast and its management are locked in an outmoded 
 mindset,  
  and are choosing their technology based on this.  They have 
 rejected  
  Quicktime and Flash as formats because they have been told that 
 they  
  don't have adequate DRM or quality - I suspect that they have been  
  sold a line by Microsoft.  They have been ramping up their rights  
  clauses in their contracts with independent producers, being very  
  hardline about negotiation on this, and are terrified of being  
  accused of 'giving away' content paid for by taxpayers without  
  getting adequate return.  This was a massive opportunity for them 
 and  
  for all of us, and it looks like they're going to blow it.  And 
 they  
  are very poorly advised.  And all of us have to sit back and watch.



Re: [videoblogging] video sites that pay

2007-01-24 Thread Roxanne Darling
This is a good piece of work. From my cursory view Scott has done a
great job synthesizing the different services, with an understanding
of the mechanics and the energy behind each.

Mahalo nui for posting the info Joly.

Rox



On 1/24/07, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  There's a piece on Boing Boing today about a new book on
  the topic of video sites that pay on the web

  http://www.boingboing.net/2007/01/23/video_websites_that_.html

  book:
  http://stores.lulu.com/kirsner

  sample:
  http://www.scottkirsner.com/webvid/gettingpaid.htm

  joly

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  WWWhatsup NYC
  http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
  --

  


-- 
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o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian
808-384-5554

http://www.beachwalks.tv
http://www.barefeetshop.com
http://www.barefeetstudios.com
http://www.inthetransition.com


[videoblogging] Reaching out

2007-01-24 Thread Josh Paul
Hi all,

As some of you know, my 18 month old nephew, Joey, is in critical
condition after being found in a pool a little over a week ago. This
last week has been quite trying for my family, and the last couple of
days have been difficult (highs and lows), as he has woken from his
coma. The doctors are now trying to determine if he has sustained any
brain damage and to what extent.

I have made a personal video, and posted it at:

   http://www.joshpaul.com/?p=263

Feel free to watch the video, and if you're so inclined, leave a
comment on Joey's update blog (link is in image form on my
post...trying to avoid spambots) which the family is reading. Also, if
you make a video, I will burn it to DVD and show it to my family over
the next week.

Warm regards,

Josh


RE: [videoblogging] video sites that pay

2007-01-24 Thread Mike Hudack
Hey guys,

Just so that you know the information about blip.tv in this table is
about six months old, and much has changed since then.  We're getting in
touch with the author to make the change, in the meantime you can see
our actual advertising program by clicking on the link about blip.tv in
the book's comparison table.

Yours,

Mike 

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roxanne Darling
 Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:42 PM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] video sites that pay
 
 This is a good piece of work. From my cursory view Scott has 
 done a great job synthesizing the different services, with an 
 understanding of the mechanics and the energy behind each.
 
 Mahalo nui for posting the info Joly.
 
 Rox
 
 
 
 On 1/24/07, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   There's a piece on Boing Boing today about a new book on  
 the topic 
  of video sites that pay on the web
 
   http://www.boingboing.net/2007/01/23/video_websites_that_.html
 
   book:
   http://stores.lulu.com/kirsner
 
   sample:
   http://www.scottkirsner.com/webvid/gettingpaid.htm
 
   joly
 
   --
   WWWhatsup NYC
   http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
   --
 
   
 
 
 --
 Roxanne Darling
 o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian
 808-384-5554
 
 http://www.beachwalks.tv
 http://www.barefeetshop.com
 http://www.barefeetstudios.com
 http://www.inthetransition.com
 
 
  
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Help Retrieving Google, YouTube and other Videos.

2007-01-24 Thread Rupert
the industry that currently produces it will collapse over time with  
much of the rest of our modern economy  society.  thanks for that  
cheery thought :-)  Thanks for the link, too - I hadn't seen that  
story today.

It's talking about the iPlayer, which is for all recent (last 7 days)  
content, and I can definitely see the competitive element of that,  
and also the need for the BBC to make some kind of revenue return on  
new shows - after all, you're right, it's not pure public domain  
stuff.  but it's just wrong that they seem to be taking the same  
attitude towards their archive - decades of basically non-competitive  
material.  as it gets older, it *should* become public domain.  we  
don't 'contribute to' production costs - together, we totally fund  
everything they do - we are investors in the finished product, and  
part owners of it.   If they opened up the archive, it would be an  
argument *for* the licence fee and the BBC.

You say you can't expect this to change in isolation... but can you  
see any real way that motivated people could influence the decisions  
of large public bodies, which doesn't involve the end of everything  
else?  In an optimistic moment?


On 24 Jan 2007, at 20:12, Steve Watkins wrote:

Funny that the BBC is mentioned. Like any large institution they have
a certain amount of power, but this is counteracted somewhat by so
many people being interested in influencing what they do with their
mammoth size.

Just today I saw this story about how Ofcom (the UK regulator) is
telling the BBC off for some of its planned Video Download services -
Ofcom want it to be even more restrictive, so that it doesnt unfairly
harm the commercial competitors to the BBC, and so that it doesnt
impact too much on things like DVD sales. So they are advising the BBC
to make the content timeout and dissapear from users computers even
more quickly than the BBC had planned.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6290745.stm

As a BBC license fee payer, I am resigned to the fact that just
beccause we pay for it, doesnt currently give us entitlement to use
all BBC footage however we like. We contribute to production costs,
and we get to watch their stuff, and technically the right to keep it
for a certain period of time. If we want to have permanent access to
it, we have to buy the DVD. I would like this to change but I cant
expect it to happen in isolation, the argument about it harming
commercial rivals will carry weight with those who get the power to
make these decisions. And if it were freely available worldwide, the
argument about us paying license fee to subsidise the rest of the
world would arise.

We shpould also be aware that current BBC footage isnt really akin to
stuff that in the public domain. Its fine to make an argument that it
should be, but as things stand right now the stuff about google DRMing
public domain stuff is not directly comparable with commercial or
nation-owned companies DRMing their copyrighted content.

Personally as someone who is not an optimist about things in the
medium term, I expect injustices like this stuff to become
inconsequentioal compared to the horrors ahead. I think its more
likely that 'media will become free' because the industry that
currently produces it will collapse over time with much of the rest of
our modern economy  society, rather than as a result to some new
enlightened approach to our very ideas about 'owning' creative content.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  As good as its programming can be I've heard the BBC referred to as
  the Big Bully on Campus.
  
   We are about to face a similar problem in the UK. The BBC are
   putting their massive archive online, and they are obsessed with
  DRM.
   In the UK, everyone with a TV pays a $200+ license fee (tax) each
   year to fund the BBC. It has no commercials or sponsors. It's
  OURS.
  
   The BBC website is beautiful, but the BBC is a massive
  bureaucratic,
   old-media beast and its management are locked in an outmoded
  mindset,
   and are choosing their technology based on this. They have
  rejected
   Quicktime and Flash as formats because they have been told that
  they
   don't have adequate DRM or quality - I suspect that they have been
   sold a line by Microsoft. They have been ramping up their rights
   clauses in their contracts with independent producers, being very
   hardline about negotiation on this, and are terrified of being
   accused of 'giving away' content paid for by taxpayers without
   getting adequate return. This was a massive opportunity for them
  and
   for all of us, and it looks like they're going to blow it. And
  they
   are very poorly advised. And all of us have to sit back and watch.






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[videoblogging] Tony Kahn of WGBH Radio's Morning Stories is vlogging

2007-01-24 Thread Steve Garfield
Tony Kahn of WGBH Radio's Morning Stories is vlogging

The video project I worked on with Tony Kahn of WGBH Radio's Morning  
Stories podcast is now being posted to YouTube.

This was a fun musical mashup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Ah-BWtWdA

--Steve
--
Steve Garfield
http://SteveGarfield.com





[videoblogging] Re: Help Retrieving Google, YouTube and other Videos.

2007-01-24 Thread Steve Watkins
Cheers, well, in an optimistic moment the BBC will play an important
role in pushing some boundaries in the UK at least. In the past they
have stuck their toe in the water with things like letting VJs remix 
use some of their archive clips for non-commercial purposes (although
it with their own license which was inspired by creative commons but
more restrictive in various ways, eg UK people only).

There will be people within the organisation and externally who want
to go much further than they willr ealistically be able to do. If the
economic  political climate was different, if we were not in the
middle of a 'the market is god' phase of political belief, various
commercial effects any move the BBC makes may be less powerful factors
in the decision than other stuff such as public interest etc. I really
cannot make any predictions about how fast the pace of change will be,
I clearly dont expect all that much, some real progress but some very
real hardles that wont be jumped in a hurry.

Its possible the 'dvd sales' factor may diminish in the future - its
not impossible that replacing some physical goods, and the need to
transport them using oil, with digital goods, is a small but
significant enabler for various nations plans to reduce oil
consumption by tens of percent in the next decade or so. So I think
we'll see plenty of encouragement with the whole video downloading
thing, but possibly as a result of this becoming the main revenue
stream rather than DVD etc, an even greater emphasis on DRM.

Cheers

Steve Elbows 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the industry that currently produces it will collapse over time with  
 much of the rest of our modern economy  society.  thanks for that  
 cheery thought :-)  Thanks for the link, too - I hadn't seen that  
 story today.
 
 It's talking about the iPlayer, which is for all recent (last 7 days)  
 content, and I can definitely see the competitive element of that,  
 and also the need for the BBC to make some kind of revenue return on  
 new shows - after all, you're right, it's not pure public domain  
 stuff.  but it's just wrong that they seem to be taking the same  
 attitude towards their archive - decades of basically non-competitive  
 material.  as it gets older, it *should* become public domain.  we  
 don't 'contribute to' production costs - together, we totally fund  
 everything they do - we are investors in the finished product, and  
 part owners of it.   If they opened up the archive, it would be an  
 argument *for* the licence fee and the BBC.
 
 You say you can't expect this to change in isolation... but can you  
 see any real way that motivated people could influence the decisions  
 of large public bodies, which doesn't involve the end of everything  
 else?  In an optimistic moment?
 
 
 On 24 Jan 2007, at 20:12, Steve Watkins wrote:
 
 Funny that the BBC is mentioned. Like any large institution they have
 a certain amount of power, but this is counteracted somewhat by so
 many people being interested in influencing what they do with their
 mammoth size.
 
 Just today I saw this story about how Ofcom (the UK regulator) is
 telling the BBC off for some of its planned Video Download services -
 Ofcom want it to be even more restrictive, so that it doesnt unfairly
 harm the commercial competitors to the BBC, and so that it doesnt
 impact too much on things like DVD sales. So they are advising the BBC
 to make the content timeout and dissapear from users computers even
 more quickly than the BBC had planned.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6290745.stm
 
 As a BBC license fee payer, I am resigned to the fact that just
 beccause we pay for it, doesnt currently give us entitlement to use
 all BBC footage however we like. We contribute to production costs,
 and we get to watch their stuff, and technically the right to keep it
 for a certain period of time. If we want to have permanent access to
 it, we have to buy the DVD. I would like this to change but I cant
 expect it to happen in isolation, the argument about it harming
 commercial rivals will carry weight with those who get the power to
 make these decisions. And if it were freely available worldwide, the
 argument about us paying license fee to subsidise the rest of the
 world would arise.
 
 We shpould also be aware that current BBC footage isnt really akin to
 stuff that in the public domain. Its fine to make an argument that it
 should be, but as things stand right now the stuff about google DRMing
 public domain stuff is not directly comparable with commercial or
 nation-owned companies DRMing their copyrighted content.
 
 Personally as someone who is not an optimist about things in the
 medium term, I expect injustices like this stuff to become
 inconsequentioal compared to the horrors ahead. I think its more
 likely that 'media will become free' because the industry that
 currently produces it will collapse over time with much of the 

Re: [videoblogging] Paid Subscription + CMS

2007-01-24 Thread Nathan Freitas
Joshua Kinberg wrote:

 You can sell media with Cruxy.com, which was developed by Nathan
 Freitas, who is on this list.

Thanks, Josh.

There is a great new survey of sites that help video producers make 
money.
Its an except from a book by Scott Kirsner: 
http://www.scottkirsner.com/webvid/gettingpaid.htm

Happy to answer any questions about Cruxy, as well.

Best,
   Nathan

-- 
cruXy: buy/sell/promote
independent original creativity
http://cruxy.com 



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Paid Subscription + CMS

2007-01-24 Thread sull
yeah, cruxy is an excellent project.
please spread awareness of it.

sull

On 1/24/07, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   That's a good resource. Thanks Josh.

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  You can sell media with Cruxy.com, which was developed by Nathan
  Freitas, who is on this list.
  Definitely check it out.
 
  -josh
 
 
  On 1/24/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Ron,
  
   I have some experience with selling music over iTunes. I suspect
   that a lot of this applies to selling video on iTunes. If you go
 to
   iTunes personally by filling in their online form, it can take six
   months or more to get your music onto the store because they have
   such a backlog of private applications to get through... and
   apparently sometimes they just never get back to you. So the best
   thing to do is to use a distributor/aggregator. However, most of
   them will screw you on rights, TC and charges. The company we
 chose
   (no personal association, just did research) was Tunecore, whose
 big
   selling point is that they don't take ANY rights or royalties,
   whereas other companies like CDBaby and The Orchard have sneakier
   TCs. Tunecore don't advertise a video service, but it might be
   worth getting in touch with them to see if they can do it for you
 if
   you choose the iTunes route. Or there may be other companies that
   specialise in video distribution to iTunes etc, but beware TCs.
  
   Rupert
  
   http://www.fatgirlinohio.org
  
   On 24 Jan 2007, at 02:57, Ron Watson wrote:
  
   I am wondering what iTunes has to off the little
   guy. ...iTunes...hmmm. Anybody have any experience navigating the
   iTunes pay for play scheme?
  
   I'm going to look into that right now. How many people would pay a
   few bucks to learn to teach their dog learn to retrieve in just a
 few
   minutes?
  
   Any help or discussion would be appreciated.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Ron Watson
  
  
  
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   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
  
 

  




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http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
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[videoblogging] Re: Help Retrieving Google, YouTube and other Videos.

2007-01-24 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 24/1/07 Steve Watkins mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: 
Help Retrieving Google, YouTube and oth that:
Cheers, well, in an optimistic moment the BBC will play an important
role in pushing some boundaries in the UK at least. In the past they
have stuck their toe in the water with things like letting VJs remix 
use some of their archive clips for non-commercial purposes (although
it with their own license which was inspired by creative commons but
more restrictive in various ways, eg UK people only).

the BBC have been popping up at pretty much every event I've been to 
recently, largely because in places that have state media (everywhere 
except the United States I guess) the BBC are the benchmark, 
particularly in what they're doing online. RSS, podcasting, and so 
on, they got in early. They have announced that all tv content will 
be freely available online, with some DRM attached, simply because 
there is nothing in the charter of the BBC that says to watch this 
program you have to be at home at 6pm on a Monday night. Now, for a 
national broadcaster, that's a pretty refreshing approach :-)

They have a lot of projects that now use what I guess we'd call web 2 
stuff for regional and local storytelling, etc. It's impressive as 
these sorts of institutions are often quite conservative (they have 
also realigned internally so that distinctions between media are 
being dissolved, you don't do radio, you do sport, and it will be 
www, radio and tv for example). For someone who teaches in media this 
is revolutionary, most staff I work with still think that radio is 
radio is radio, for example.

Anyway, I like their approach to their content, it's paid for by tax 
payers so they see their role as providing as much access to this as 
possible. That's cool.
-- 
cheers
Adrian Miles
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Re: [videoblogging] Reaching out

2007-01-24 Thread Irina
i'm sorry your family is going thru this
thinking of you

On 1/24/07, Josh Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi all,

 As some of you know, my 18 month old nephew, Joey, is in critical
 condition after being found in a pool a little over a week ago. This
 last week has been quite trying for my family, and the last couple of
 days have been difficult (highs and lows), as he has woken from his
 coma. The doctors are now trying to determine if he has sustained any
 brain damage and to what extent.

 I have made a personal video, and posted it at:

 http://www.joshpaul.com/?p=263

 Feel free to watch the video, and if you're so inclined, leave a
 comment on Joey's update blog (link is in image form on my
 post...trying to avoid spambots) which the family is reading. Also, if
 you make a video, I will burn it to DVD and show it to my family over
 the next week.

 Warm regards,

 Josh
  




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http://geekentertainment.tv


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[videoblogging] Something Old, Something New??

2007-01-24 Thread brian conley
Hey all,

The Vlogging list is buzzing with conversation about new equipment—which means 
your old equipment, that old one chip video camera or that pre-MacBook laptop, 
is lying around, getting lonely and gathering dust.

Don’t let your old equipment get lonely—donate it to Alive in Baghdad. Send it 
on a new vacation to a faraway land! Not only will your equipment get to travel 
to the hottest spots in the world, but it will help us to provide voices to 
those in Iraq and, now also, in Mexico!

And be assured, we promise to put any and all equipment into the hands of new 
vloggers in interesting and seldom seen places, rest assured we're already 
thinking about new locations even more interesting and under-seen than those 
we're working on now. 

If you have old but working equipment (cameras or laptops in particular) to 
donate, please send it to:  

Alive in Baghdad / Mexico
c/o Brian Conley
28 Bay Rd.
Revere MA 02151

Thanks so much!

If you have suggestions or criticisms, please let us know, we're always open to 
hearing more input and bettering our work. and if you have stories to suggest, 
don't hesitate!

Brian
PS we've just received the first shipment of independent material from the 
Mexican folks, so expect new and regular material to begin soon on 
aliveinmexico.org !

 
-
Bored stiff? Loosen up...
Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.

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