Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Blocked my Blogger Blog because of Spam-How long?
Yes, the image is of the page that indicates proper submission. Took about six hours after that. J On 3/5/07, Nick Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool Thanks. When I first submitted it went through. Just like the picture you have on the blog link you sent me. So I think it will be fine in a couple of hours.. Right? Thanks for the response. Nick Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: crowdabout.us (was blog vs youtube myspace)
Carter, I'm loving crowdabout. I've uploaded my videos and added time-based comments. Brilliant. I see what you mean about the authorship of comments being clear. And I see a few people from this list have signed up today. For my latest post on my blog, I replaced my Blip player with a crowdabout embedded 'slim' player just to see. Looks nice. But could you also provide an embeddable player that shows the timeline comments, perhaps showing the text of comments as a semi-opaque overlay on top of the video? I would be happy to have a bigger player for this - isn't that what the Innertoob player did? (i've been reading your blog) Even if it meant that when people wanted to add comments themselves, they were taken to the crowdabout site, that'd be fine - just seems to be missing the obvious to have an embedded crowdabout player without crowdabout's big feature. There's a balance to be played between giving people incentives to put you on their blogs and making people use the crowdabout website. Also, I couldn't find the Social Player at crowdabout where you said you'd left comment love - am i being stupid? Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/fatgirlinohio/ http://crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 6 Mar 2007, at 05:30, caroosky wrote: Rupert, thanks for your comments about CrowdAbout! I appreciate your ideas as well. For now, each post and comment identifies who contributed it by the username, so it's pretty easy to follow a thread and see who said what. Interesting thoughts on the clickable video feature. We talked about overlaying icons and things on the screen to interact with, but in the end, it was taking away too much from the real content, which in our minds comes first, and should never be compromised. CrowdAbout is all about participation in and around the content. There are lots of tools for content creators to use to enhance their content with show notes, annotations, time markers, etc. These are all unidirectional tools by nature, becuase they can't be used by anyone except the content creator, at the time he is publishing the content. But the real point of CrowdAbout is conversation, and breaking the mass media walls down for good. Social Media should be social, right? Thanks again, Rupert, I left you some comment love in the Social player over at CrowdAbout, too. Carter http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carter, I really like what you guys are doing with crowdabout.us. Have you thought about separating Author comments from user comments, so that we can add links and extra description to stuff that's happening, as it happens - and mark this as different from the user comments - it might encourage more people to use it, because at the moment Comments feels like it's something only users should do. What I REALLY want in the end from web video players is for the image of whatever I'm showing to be clickable *within the video frame* at the moment its shown, so that people can click it while it's on screen and open a new browser tab with more info to read or watch later - so that if I show the Peter Pan monument in Hyde Park prominently in background of my video, people could click it JUST LIKE I'D LET THEM CLICK THE WORDS PETER PAN MONUMENT FOR MORE INFO IF I MENTIONED IT IN A *TEXT* BLOG DESCRIPTION OF MY DAY. Up til now, if you want people to know more about something you show in a video, you have to either write about it in a big block of Video description (essentially an adjacent text blog) or describe it in voiceover and titles on the video itself. That's not exactly harnessing the power of the web, is it? In blog/hyperlinking terms, videoblogs are pretty inert, inflexible un-networked things. But doing all this in a time-based comments bar on crowdabout.us will be good for me for now. A big step forward for video *blogging* in my book, and a definite advantage over YouTube. Just got to figure out how to make it work with my current set-up and feed. Did any of that make any sense?? Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/fatgirlinohio/ On 5 Mar 2007, at 04:15, caroosky wrote: Rupert, you nailed it. I have put videos up on YouTube in hopes of attracting traffic to my vlog, but did it work? Heck no! I even got a respectable 60,000+ views on one video in YouTube, but it contributed approximately 5 or 6 new visits to my vlog. That's it. In a nutshell, YouTube is shallow. The whole mechanism of offering You might also like this items is a game that only YouTube benefits from, with bored people looking for the next thrill, clicking through countless videos. If someone comments, it's usually no more than 8 or 10 words (usually something like, dude, wtf! UR waystin my time, yo.) I realized, at the end of my own YouTube experiment that
[videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?a=286422z=23 Just found this piece. Jan -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
Wow, had no one linked this yet? It was none other than Walt Mossberg -- him writing about videoblogging is a Big Deal. Capitalized. Congrats to everyone he mentioned, whom I imagine have all gotten a bunch of email. Lots of people read Mossberg. Original link: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20070301.html On 3/6/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?a=286422z=23 Just found this piece. Jan
[videoblogging] Re: camera for vlog and more
Welcome - a simple question? Eh, sometimes. This topic comes up a lot but I have another place for you to check out. http://www.myceknowhow.com/digitalImaging.cfm At the bottom is a guide to digital camcorders. I haven't had time to snoop it out but it portends to be an interactive guide to selecting a camcorder. It is joint project of CNET and CEA. You can also visit http://reviews.cnet.com/Camcorders/2001-6500_7-0.html?tag=dir to start building your knowledge base. I have to go to the salt mine but if the others don't chime in I will have more places and possible camcorders for you to check out. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was advised by some experienced vloggers and citizen journalists to solicit advice on this forum. It's a simple question... I'm looking for a camera. I would classify myself as a budget buyer, but have great aspirations for my videos on the web. I'm looking for the best bargain camera featuring a port for an external mic. The reviews I've come across seem to suggest that the Canon Elura 100 MiniDV Camcorder is my best bet. Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Much obliged.
Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
I'm interested, how much email did the people in the article actually get. How many web pages views compared to a normal day...? On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:40 AM, T Shey wrote: Wow, had no one linked this yet? It was none other than Walt Mossberg -- him writing about videoblogging is a Big Deal. Capitalized. Congrats to everyone he mentioned, whom I imagine have all gotten a bunch of email. Lots of people read Mossberg. Original link: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20070301.html -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com
[videoblogging] I just broadcast live from a cellphone to the web
Hello Friends, I can't believe I just did a live broadcast from my Nokia N93 over WiFi to the web. This is the future. Amazing. The video is archived too. http://tinyurl.com/yuvyw9 or http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/broadcasting-live-from- cellphone-to-web.html --Steve -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com
RE: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
I will tell you that the Mossberg article led to a ton of e-mails from media buyers, unsolicited phone calls from recruiters and some of the biggest traffic days that blip.tv has ever seen. Our ad sales pipeline doubled. We're super proud of the article. Walt highlighted some of his favorite shows and some of ours (GNB, AIB, Josh...), validated videoblogging and called blip.tv his favorite. Wh! We spent months talking to Walt and working on this story. We couldn't be happier! By the way, if you get a chance, definitely watch Walt's video that accompanied his column. You can find it at the bottom of http://ptech.wsj.com/ptech.html until Thursday morning. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Garfield Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:11 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news I'm interested, how much email did the people in the article actually get. How many web pages views compared to a normal day...? On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:40 AM, T Shey wrote: Wow, had no one linked this yet? It was none other than Walt Mossberg -- him writing about videoblogging is a Big Deal. Capitalized. Congrats to everyone he mentioned, whom I imagine have all gotten a bunch of email. Lots of people read Mossberg. Original link: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20070301.html -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Re: Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
That's very cool Mike. Huge congrats to you and the Blip gang. You guys certainly deserve the acclaim for what you have created. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will tell you that the Mossberg article led to a ton of e-mails from media buyers, unsolicited phone calls from recruiters and some of the biggest traffic days that blip.tv has ever seen. Our ad sales pipeline doubled. We're super proud of the article. Walt highlighted some of his favorite shows and some of ours (GNB, AIB, Josh...), validated videoblogging and called blip.tv his favorite. Wh! We spent months talking to Walt and working on this story. We couldn't be happier! By the way, if you get a chance, definitely watch Walt's video that accompanied his column. You can find it at the bottom of http://ptech.wsj.com/ptech.html until Thursday morning. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Garfield Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:11 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news I'm interested, how much email did the people in the article actually get. How many web pages views compared to a normal day...? On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:40 AM, T Shey wrote: Wow, had no one linked this yet? It was none other than Walt Mossberg -- him writing about videoblogging is a Big Deal. Capitalized. Congrats to everyone he mentioned, whom I imagine have all gotten a bunch of email. Lots of people read Mossberg. Original link: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20070301.html -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
I got like maybe 2 emails from people and not that big of a spike in hits to my site at all... would have been nice if he linked to the blogs but, oh well... it looks nice to say mossberg likes me. On 3/6/07, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very cool Mike. Huge congrats to you and the Blip gang. You guys certainly deserve the acclaim for what you have created. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will tell you that the Mossberg article led to a ton of e-mails from media buyers, unsolicited phone calls from recruiters and some of the biggest traffic days that blip.tv has ever seen. Our ad sales pipeline doubled. We're super proud of the article. Walt highlighted some of his favorite shows and some of ours (GNB, AIB, Josh...), validated videoblogging and called blip.tv his favorite. Wh! We spent months talking to Walt and working on this story. We couldn't be happier! By the way, if you get a chance, definitely watch Walt's video that accompanied his column. You can find it at the bottom of http://ptech.wsj.com/ptech.html until Thursday morning. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Garfield Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:11 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news I'm interested, how much email did the people in the article actually get. How many web pages views compared to a normal day...? On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:40 AM, T Shey wrote: Wow, had no one linked this yet? It was none other than Walt Mossberg -- him writing about videoblogging is a Big Deal. Capitalized. Congrats to everyone he mentioned, whom I imagine have all gotten a bunch of email. Lots of people read Mossberg. Original link: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20070301.html -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: camera for vlog and more
The canon zr500. It's 250 dollars and has a mic jack! -ryanne On 06 Mar 2007 06:02:21 -0800, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome - a simple question? Eh, sometimes. This topic comes up a lot but I have another place for you to check out. http://www.myceknowhow.com/digitalImaging.cfm At the bottom is a guide to digital camcorders. I haven't had time to snoop it out but it portends to be an interactive guide to selecting a camcorder. It is joint project of CNET and CEA. You can also visit http://reviews.cnet.com/Camcorders/2001-6500_7-0.html?tag=dir to start building your knowledge base. I have to go to the salt mine but if the others don't chime in I will have more places and possible camcorders for you to check out. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was advised by some experienced vloggers and citizen journalists to solicit advice on this forum. It's a simple question... I'm looking for a camera. I would classify myself as a budget buyer, but have great aspirations for my videos on the web. I'm looking for the best bargain camera featuring a port for an external mic. The reviews I've come across seem to suggest that the Canon Elura 100 MiniDV Camcorder is my best bet. Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Much obliged. -- Author of Secrets of Videoblogging http://tinyurl.com/me4vs Me http://RyanEdit.com, http://RyanIsHungry.com Educate http://FreeVlog.org, http://Node101.org Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com iChat/AIM VideoRodeo
Re: [videoblogging] fund a good videoblog project
Hey ya'll, We're just $11 shy of meeting the goal. Who wants to put it over the top? http://havemoneywillvlog.com/2007/02/06/lives-in-focus-family-life-behind-bars/ - Verdi On 3/1/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the latest project on HaveMoneyWillVlog.com is just $400 shy of making its goal. Sandeep is buying 4 cameras that will be given to 4 families who have loved ones in jail. The videoblog (http://www.livesinfocus.org/prison/) will let families show how they deal. http://blip.tv/file/get/Jaydedman-LivesInFocus414.mov Anyway...we got 6 more days. by the way...Sustainableroute.com is now finished. you can now watch all the videos from Ashley's roadtrip. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
Good call. Even knowing that you said it was on the bottom of the page, it was nearly impossible to find and recognize as something leading to a video. Congrats on the kudos. :) -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, if you get a chance, definitely watch Walt's video that accompanied his column. You can find it at the bottom of http://ptech.wsj.com/ptech.html until Thursday morning. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Garfield Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:11 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news I'm interested, how much email did the people in the article actually get. How many web pages views compared to a normal day...? On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:40 AM, T Shey wrote: Wow, had no one linked this yet? It was none other than Walt Mossberg -- him writing about videoblogging is a Big Deal. Capitalized. Congrats to everyone he mentioned, whom I imagine have all gotten a bunch of email. Lots of people read Mossberg. Original link: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20070301.html -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] fund a good videoblog project
Thanks everyone! It's totally funded now. - Verdi On 3/6/07, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey ya'll, We're just $11 shy of meeting the goal. Who wants to put it over the top? http://havemoneywillvlog.com/2007/02/06/lives-in-focus-family-life-behind-bars/ - Verdi On 3/1/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the latest project on HaveMoneyWillVlog.com is just $400 shy of making its goal. Sandeep is buying 4 cameras that will be given to 4 families who have loved ones in jail. The videoblog (http://www.livesinfocus.org/prison/) will let families show how they deal. http://blip.tv/file/get/Jaydedman-LivesInFocus414.mov Anyway...we got 6 more days. by the way...Sustainableroute.com is now finished. you can now watch all the videos from Ashley's roadtrip. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives? A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube. Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum - bing!) It's funny, as we like to say in comedy, because it's true. Just some food for thought. Cheers Mark Day http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/markdaycomedy http://www.myspace.com/markday
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Mark Day wrote: Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives? A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube. Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum - bing!) It's funny, as we like to say in comedy, because it's true. Just some food for thought. Cheers but it's not true. most people i meet are very excited about all aspects of web video including YouTube, videoblogging, etc. vloggers, media execs, you name it. most of what i hear on this list is positive (except when it comes to TOS issues) but hey, if we're going to tell media jokes ... an editor, a director and a mainstream media exec are eating lunch together the soup arrives and the editor says too much salt!' the director says needs more onion! the exec says it's perfect! and stands up and pisses in it funny=true? :) --- Markus Sandy http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
When I talk to libraries about videoblogging and how libraries can use video on their websites, I tell them the YouTube is great and easy - but they need to decide one little thing. Do they want users to watch just online, or do they want users to download video and take it with them? It's a big difference. Then I tell them to just do both, and be done with it :-) David On 06 Mar 2007 08:47:28 -0800, Mark Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives? A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube. Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum - bing!) It's funny, as we like to say in comedy, because it's true. Just some food for thought. Cheers Mark Day http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/markdaycomedy http://www.myspace.com/markday -- David King davidleeking.com - blog http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Stumbled Upon another possible shit storm
Howdy, I was just invited to check out stumble upon video. I don't think I like it, for us. If you're uploading to YouTube or Google .. GooTube Your videos show up in the stumble upon interface with no link back to you. On Google Video you can place a link to your site along with the video. As a director on YouTube you get a link back to you on each video Scratch that.. now I'm pissed... On YouTube as a director you USED TO GET A LINK BACK TO YOUR SITE.. the provided by link on my videos have all been replaced by a link to my f'n U2B Channel instead of my site I tried to edit the link and found no form for changing the URL... heads up SOooo.. Stumble Upon... No Ads (YET), no link back, decent interface. does this suck? or what? http://video.stumbleupon.com Solidarity, ~FluxRostrum ~ s... http://thisweekinfascism.com Nawlins~ http://NOTVcollective.org VLOG~FLUX~ http://FluxRostrum.BlogSpot.com GBC~ http://GlassBeadCollective.org Old School~ http://Fluxview.com ~~~ NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President. ~~~ = Manage Your Customer Data Software that helps integrate your customer data. Free Whitepaper. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=e0b5f72de924323b6fd57f4b6a2f61de -- Powered By Outblaze
[videoblogging] Re: Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
Thats been my experience. Print media doesn't really do a whole hell of a lot for traffic, and what it does bring doesn't last long. It does bring other benefits though. I had one minor bit of experience with mainstream radio, and television both brought small spikes in traffic. I was interviewed for local television last week, this will be a longer form interview (for local news-thats 3 minutes). Which is due to be broadcast next week. It'll be interesting to see what kind of traffic that generates. I would expect that this kind of press would be better for Blip than the individual vlogger, since Blip is a business and a service that people who read the WSJ might be more interested in. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got like maybe 2 emails from people and not that big of a spike in hits to my site at all... would have been nice if he linked to the blogs but, oh well... it looks nice to say mossberg likes me. On 3/6/07, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very cool Mike. Huge congrats to you and the Blip gang. You guys certainly deserve the acclaim for what you have created. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack mike@ wrote: I will tell you that the Mossberg article led to a ton of e- mails from media buyers, unsolicited phone calls from recruiters and some of the biggest traffic days that blip.tv has ever seen. Our ad sales pipeline doubled. We're super proud of the article. Walt highlighted some of his favorite shows and some of ours (GNB, AIB, Josh...), validated videoblogging and called blip.tv his favorite. Wh! We spent months talking to Walt and working on this story. We couldn't be happier! By the way, if you get a chance, definitely watch Walt's video that accompanied his column. You can find it at the bottom of http://ptech.wsj.com/ptech.html until Thursday morning. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Garfield Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:11 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news I'm interested, how much email did the people in the article actually get. How many web pages views compared to a normal day...? On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:40 AM, T Shey wrote: Wow, had no one linked this yet? It was none other than Walt Mossberg -- him writing about videoblogging is a Big Deal. Capitalized. Congrats to everyone he mentioned, whom I imagine have all gotten a bunch of email. Lots of people read Mossberg. Original link: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech- 20070301.html -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
I don't think it's true. The thing about comedians is, they always generalise about everything. ;-) People here (like me recently) have complained about YouTube's interface and methods, but never on the people creating content. I've not read anyone here express disdain for anyone posting video, just support. yes, it's less attractive to me as a distribution platform than Blip/my blog, partly because of the people who post hateful comments and because it's so competitive in feel and a closed streaming-only system. and i'm depressed that some people who would benefit from a videoblog might be turned off by the YouTube experience. but i would never turn my nose up at watching someone else using it. there is no inherent connection between quality of content and how you choose to distribute it. i doubt many here would disagree with that statement. Also, many MSM execs don't understand it, for many reasons - for instance some TV execs I've spoken to are genuinely mystified that so much excitement can be generated over some one-off 2 minute clip that a few hundred thousand people watch - they're thinking in terms of their sponsored series of hour long shows that attract millions, and they're not sure how they can use online video themselves - but all the major networks have started posting their content on there, and if they're going to look down on anyone, they'd probably look down on videobloggers more than those people who choose to tap into the vast audience switched onto YouTube (which they might be able to identify with as a one-stop TV channel). Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 6 Mar 2007, at 16:47, Mark Day wrote: Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives? A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube. Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum - bing!) It's funny, as we like to say in comedy, because it's true. Just some food for thought. Cheers Mark Day http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/markdaycomedy http://www.myspace.com/markday [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] SocialTrackr.com Inclusion
We are seeding a social media and social networking directory to be used by the community as a resource for, well, social media and social networking. The site is at socialtrackr.com. We are still in the alpha phase of development, but I'd like to ask any videobloggers who work with or have blogs/podcasts about social media, social networking, pr, viral marketing, etc to please add your information in the directory (www.socialtrackr.com). Right now the categories are pretty broad. We will get more specific as the directory takes shape. The primary sections of the directory currently include: Advertising Networks Solutions Articles Blog Postings Blogs Events Mashups Music People and Organizations Photo Sharing Podcasts Search Engines SMS/IM Social Bookmarking Social Networking Software Social Networks Social News Video Wikis Any suggestions for categories that are missing or recommendations for functionality are of course greatly appreciated. Thanks. -giovanni
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
Yeah, most press I've gotten doesnt usually bring all that much change in traffic, except for the couple times on NPR becausedrum roll, please...they actually link to content!!! Not even the SF Chronicle links to my site when they write about me, which is weird since they consider themselves techy. Congrats to all! I love Mossburgs collumns and being noted by him is a very good thing in my book. Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webshots.com/is/spotlight http://hatfactory.net http://evilvlog.com On 3/6/07, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats been my experience. Print media doesn't really do a whole hell of a lot for traffic, and what it does bring doesn't last long. It does bring other benefits though. I had one minor bit of experience with mainstream radio, and television both brought small spikes in traffic. I was interviewed for local television last week, this will be a longer form interview (for local news-thats 3 minutes). Which is due to be broadcast next week. It'll be interesting to see what kind of traffic that generates. I would expect that this kind of press would be better for Blip than the individual vlogger, since Blip is a business and a service that people who read the WSJ might be more interested in. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got like maybe 2 emails from people and not that big of a spike in hits to my site at all... would have been nice if he linked to the blogs but, oh well... it looks nice to say mossberg likes me. On 3/6/07, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very cool Mike. Huge congrats to you and the Blip gang. You guys certainly deserve the acclaim for what you have created. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack mike@ wrote: I will tell you that the Mossberg article led to a ton of e- mails from media buyers, unsolicited phone calls from recruiters and some of the biggest traffic days that blip.tv has ever seen. Our ad sales pipeline doubled. We're super proud of the article. Walt highlighted some of his favorite shows and some of ours (GNB, AIB, Josh...), validated videoblogging and called blip.tv his favorite. Wh! We spent months talking to Walt and working on this story. We couldn't be happier! By the way, if you get a chance, definitely watch Walt's video that accompanied his column. You can find it at the bottom of http://ptech.wsj.com/ptech.html until Thursday morning. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Garfield Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:11 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news I'm interested, how much email did the people in the article actually get. How many web pages views compared to a normal day...? On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:40 AM, T Shey wrote: Wow, had no one linked this yet? It was none other than Walt Mossberg -- him writing about videoblogging is a Big Deal. Capitalized. Congrats to everyone he mentioned, whom I imagine have all gotten a bunch of email. Lots of people read Mossberg. Original link: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech- 20070301.html -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] SXSW Roll Call
Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th
Re: [videoblogging] SXSW Roll Call
Tim Street 8th-13th Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -Original Message- From: JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06 Mar 2007 10:02:44 To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] SXSW Roll Call Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: camera for vlog and more
Thanks Ryanne, Gina and Gokcen. I'll check out your suggestions and respond in short order. Something else I'm interested in, though the cost may prove to be a deal breaker, is a macro zoom function that will allow me to film lots of close ups of small objects... best, bbn --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gokcen Karan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I think you should checking Sanyo xacti series cameras. -Gokcen On 3/6/07, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was advised by some experienced vloggers and citizen journalists to solicit advice on this forum. It's a simple question... I'm looking for a camera. I would classify myself as a budget buyer, but have great aspirations for my videos on the web. I'm looking for the best bargain camera featuring a port for an external mic. The reviews I've come across seem to suggest that the Canon Elura 100 MiniDV Camcorder is my best bet. Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Much obliged. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] SXSW Roll Call
Mike Hudack 8th-14th -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:02 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] SXSW Roll Call Tim Street 8th-13th Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -Original Message- From: JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06 Mar 2007 10:02:44 To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] SXSW Roll Call Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] SXSW Roll Call
It would be nice if someone would put up a videoblogging sxsw wiki. Sent via CrackBerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:02:13 To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] SXSW Roll Call Tim Street 8th-13th Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -Original Message- From: JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06 Mar 2007 10:02:44 To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] SXSW Roll Call Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mark Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives? A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube. Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum - bing!) It's funny, as we like to say in comedy, because it's true. Just some food for thought. Cheers Mark Day http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/markdaycomedy http://www.myspace.com/markday For the most part, I agree with your generalization. Of course generalizations don't apply to everyone and perhaps not even most people, though one could gather from the conversations that go on in this group that you would be correct. YouTube is a vehicle... an arena. Nothing more and nothing less. There are people that have technical issues with YT and complain that they're a closed environment. That really doesn't have anything to do with the posters, because it's not their choice. They're not the management. YouTube just happens to be an easy way to put video on the internet and distribute that video to a lot of people, practically immediately, and TOTALLY for free (assuming you already have the computer equipment / camera). Unfortunately, the same thing that makes YT easy to get involved with makes it a source of endless buffoonery. The signal/noise ratio is outlandish. Unfortunately for the prospect of YT being 'accepted' outside of its own walls (not that it needs acceptance at all), there's so much garbage on it that it's not likely that the casual observer coming into contact with YT by accident is going to see something that endears them to the site. Well... Unless you count the fact that there' so much pirated material on YT, but that's not what this discussion is about. Hopefully, with the successes of shows like Lonelygirl15 and LisaNova, the YT environment will evolve into more than sending video chats back and forth and making comments about them. I think that's a really valuable use for YT, but the opportunity is there for the same people to apply themselves creatively and develop their abilities at broadcasting and communication, if that's what their goals are. For some people, it's just easier to make videos and watch them online than go to the mall and meet people, so that's what they do. Yes, there are people developing characters and creating situations to portray them in and making up comedy skits and stop-motion videos and all kinds of interesting, intelligent, progressive and VERY TALENTED stuff. Unfortunately, there's no way to find those except for trial error. In 'defending' what's creative about YT, you also have to defend what isn't creative, because there's no distinction. There are director accounts, but that doesn't mean that those channels have been held to any standard of quality, content-wise or production-value-wise. It's like saying someone's a good basketball player because they're on the varsity team, but you don't mention that they ride the bench and never set foot on the basketball court. :) They get to wear the jacket, though. Everyone on YT is wearing the same jacket. Meanwhile, you have people learning to put video on the internet out in the wild. No walled garden. No guaranteed visibility. No social network to ping-pong your video around causing more views. No video response so you can automatically piggyback on a video that gets viewed literally a million times. No ability to leech off of the top subscribed people/groups in the community just by mentioning their names in the titles of your videos. No arbitrarily decided featuring of your video... There's going to be a certain amount of looking down upon by people who are doing MORE towards people who are doing LESS. It's just natural. MLB players look down on AAA players. AAA players look down on little league players. World Cup soccer players look down on the local American teams. NFL players look down upon CFL players. People making movies in Hollywood look down on independent filmmakers without the budget even to get someone to score their film properly. Does this mean that CFL players can't make it to the NFL? No. It doesn't mean that independent filmmakers aren't going to make it to Hollywood or make a film that has more value and integrity than films currently being produced in Hollywood. There's no doubt that there's SOME quality on YouTube. :) The problem is that without the ability to separate the YT Elite from the garbage, all of youse have to stand together when someone chooses to evaluate the site as a whole. When someone posts a video of some lady slipping on a banana peel and gets 100,000 views for that on YouTube, that doesn't make them a good filmmaker. If they stole the video from somewhere else, they're less than that. There's no regulation and no quality control. It's like having your GED http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GED. Basically, you can opt-out of High
[videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
I'll be there. 8th-14th _drew olanoff www.pluggd.com www.bestdamntech.com www.scriggity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th
[videoblogging] Re: Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
I became totally distracted whilst watching his video because his beard seemed to be lopsided! This reminds me that one reason I originalyl loved the concept of vlogging is it can smash through the unreal world of mass media where your face normally needs to fit, only beautiful people need apply etc. Ahh just wait till more Birts get online, then see how the American stereotype of Brits having bad teeth is, erm, re-enforced! Anyway being from the UK and not particularily observant, Ive never heard of Mossburg before but it seemed like an interesting article. His focus on TV possibly confused what the term videoblog might mean, ie there was no mention of blogging, and I felt he perhaps overstated Apple's role in things a tad. I mean I guess iTunes helped Rocketboom but Im sure it was already popular before then, and Id always like to see alternative desktop aggregators mentioned (to be honest I thought there'd be more of those by now!). Do sites/services generally have to be pro-active to get a mention from the likes of Mossburg? Whilst the focus on the TV show aspect of things means its maybe understandable sites like Mefeedia dont get mentioned, but then again not everything on blip is a show, h. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, most press I've gotten doesnt usually bring all that much change in traffic, except for the couple times on NPR becausedrum roll, please...they actually link to content!!! Not even the SF Chronicle links to my site when they write about me, which is weird since they consider themselves techy. Congrats to all! I love Mossburgs collumns and being noted by him is a very good thing in my book. Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webshots.com/is/spotlight http://hatfactory.net http://evilvlog.com On 3/6/07, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats been my experience. Print media doesn't really do a whole hell of a lot for traffic, and what it does bring doesn't last long. It does bring other benefits though. I had one minor bit of experience with mainstream radio, and television both brought small spikes in traffic. I was interviewed for local television last week, this will be a longer form interview (for local news-thats 3 minutes). Which is due to be broadcast next week. It'll be interesting to see what kind of traffic that generates. I would expect that this kind of press would be better for Blip than the individual vlogger, since Blip is a business and a service that people who read the WSJ might be more interested in. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: I got like maybe 2 emails from people and not that big of a spike in hits to my site at all... would have been nice if he linked to the blogs but, oh well... it looks nice to say mossberg likes me. On 3/6/07, David Howell taoofdavid@ wrote: That's very cool Mike. Huge congrats to you and the Blip gang. You guys certainly deserve the acclaim for what you have created. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack mike@ wrote: I will tell you that the Mossberg article led to a ton of e- mails from media buyers, unsolicited phone calls from recruiters and some of the biggest traffic days that blip.tv has ever seen. Our ad sales pipeline doubled. We're super proud of the article. Walt highlighted some of his favorite shows and some of ours (GNB, AIB, Josh...), validated videoblogging and called blip.tv his favorite. Wh! We spent months talking to Walt and working on this story. We couldn't be happier! By the way, if you get a chance, definitely watch Walt's video that accompanied his column. You can find it at the bottom of http://ptech.wsj.com/ptech.html until Thursday morning. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Garfield Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:11 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news I'm interested, how much email did the people in the article actually get. How many web pages views compared to a normal day...? On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:40 AM, T Shey wrote: Wow, had no one linked this yet? It was none other than Walt
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
late 9th - 13th !! Woo-hoo! Doing a live hugnation on sunday 12:30 and panel sat eve. about what mainstream can learn from porn http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%3A451626 -halcyon pinkbroadcasting.com On 3/6/07, bestdamntechshow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there. 8th-14th _drew olanoff www.pluggd.com www.bestdamntech.com www.scriggity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
I set up a wiki for us here: http://vlogrollcall2007sxsw.pbwiki.com/ Password is: vloger Just add yourself there if you are attending and the dates and if you want, create a page with your specific places and times you will be. Or just twitter when you are there. -Lan
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
9-12 On 3/6/07, bestdamntechshow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there. 8th-14th _drew olanoff www.pluggd.com www.bestdamntech.com www.scriggity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th -- joshpaul o: 818-237-5200 c: 818-667-0900 w: joshpaul.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters, unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean anything anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera and stuff like that. Plus humans are dead good at noticing differences. What seperates us, why are they different, they seem like a different tribe. Even something like using webcams as the norm rather than DV cams can create a funny sort of divide and noticable difference. I have to be careful here too because class may play a role in that - for poorer humans, webcams are a lot more accessible. Anyway I just cant use the word youtube as one blanket description for content type anymore. There seems to be 3 or 4 very different ways of using youtube. Much of the actual community/social aspect of it seemed extremely similar to social networking sites, with the same age bias and some underlying sense of a lot of youthful energy , directed at the sorts of things young people focus on. So I was extremely happy o see how popular that old uk bloke is on there, geriatric1927 or whatever his handle is. Yes there are quite a lot of people past their teens and 20's on there, but Im sure age is one imbalance that has a marked effect on youtube, its certainly responsible for many of the awful text comments. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mark Day markdaycomedy@ wrote: Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives? A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube. Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum - bing!) It's funny, as we like to say in comedy, because it's true. Just some food for thought. Cheers Mark Day http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/markdaycomedy http://www.myspace.com/markday For the most part, I agree with your generalization. Of course generalizations don't apply to everyone and perhaps not even most people, though one could gather from the conversations that go on in this group that you would be correct. YouTube is a vehicle... an arena. Nothing more and nothing less. There are people that have technical issues with YT and complain that they're a closed environment. That really doesn't have anything to do with the posters, because it's not their choice. They're not the management. YouTube just happens to be an easy way to put video on the internet and distribute that video to a lot of people, practically immediately, and TOTALLY for free (assuming you already have the computer equipment / camera). Unfortunately, the same thing that makes YT easy to get involved with makes it a source of endless buffoonery. The signal/noise ratio is outlandish. Unfortunately for the prospect of YT being 'accepted' outside of its own walls (not that it needs acceptance at all), there's so much garbage on it that it's not likely that the casual observer coming into contact with YT by accident is going to see something that endears them to the site. Well... Unless you count the fact that there' so much pirated material on YT, but that's not what this discussion is about. Hopefully, with the successes of shows like Lonelygirl15 and LisaNova, the YT
Re: [videoblogging] SXSW Wiki (was Roll Call)
Here's a Wiki: http://bostonmediamakers.pbwiki.com/SXSW Videobloggers going to SXSW Wiki Password is: Video Drew Olanoff 8th-14th Mike Hudack 8th-14th Steve Garfield 10th - 14th Jim Vinson 9-13th There's also a list on upcoming: http://upcoming.org/event/140450/ On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:18 PM, andrew michael baron wrote: It would be nice if someone would put up a videoblogging sxsw wiki. -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
I loves me some twitter: http://twitter.com/schlomo Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webshots.com/is/spotlight http://hatfactory.net http://evilvlog.com On 3/6/07, Lan Bui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set up a wiki for us here: http://vlogrollcall2007sxsw.pbwiki.com/ Password is: vloger Just add yourself there if you are attending and the dates and if you want, create a page with your specific places and times you will be. Or just twitter when you are there. -Lan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
I'll be there. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th
Re: [videoblogging] SXSW Wiki (was Roll Call)
Steve, For the record the password is video not Video ... it took me three tries to figure that out :) ... richard (not Richard) On 3/6/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a Wiki: http://bostonmediamakers.pbwiki.com/SXSW Videobloggers going to SXSW Wiki Password is: Video Drew Olanoff 8th-14th Mike Hudack 8th-14th Steve Garfield 10th - 14th Jim Vinson 9-13th There's also a list on upcoming: http://upcoming.org/event/140450/ On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:18 PM, andrew michael baron wrote: It would be nice if someone would put up a videoblogging sxsw wiki. -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
Can't wait:) Cheers, Sarah Szalavitz 301 927 9663 From: Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:20:43 - I'll be there. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th _ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
9th-16th for me. moderating a panel on the 12th @ 5pm titled 'What does the future hold for video on the Internet?' with a few fellow videobloggers. -eddie On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:35:21AM -0800, Halcyon wrote: late 9th - 13th !! Woo-hoo! Doing a live hugnation on sunday 12:30 and panel sat eve. about what mainstream can learn from porn http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%3A451626 -halcyon pinkbroadcasting.com On 3/6/07, bestdamntechshow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there. 8th-14th _drew olanoff www.pluggd.com www.bestdamntech.com www.scriggity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is there when? I'll start - Jim V - 9-13th [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
ok ... I will never, of course, be able to fathom the extensive complexities and mysteries that are the schlomo mind, so, anyway, I don't understand the relationship between this thread and the twitter link ... please explain ... I'm not worthy! p.s. Does this mean you're coming to SXSW we hopes? On 3/6/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I loves me some twitter: http://twitter.com/schlomo Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webshots.com/is/spotlight http://hatfactory.net http://evilvlog.com On 3/6/07, Lan Bui [EMAIL PROTECTED]lan.bui.vloggroup%40lanbui.com wrote: I set up a wiki for us here: http://vlogrollcall2007sxsw.pbwiki.com/ Password is: vloger Just add yourself there if you are attending and the dates and if you want, create a page with your specific places and times you will be. Or just twitter when you are there. -Lan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
Im there! Mostly for music, but I'm doing a panel on the 12th called open knowledge vs closed knowledge Brett Gaylor 11th - 19th --- Brett Gaylor http://www.etherworks.ca http://www.homelessnation.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] VON Roll Call
Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one for VON. I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a vacation with my family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi. -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] donation button 4 fundraiser
i am going to video blog a nyc fundraiser and would like to know an easy way to add a donation button for anyone watching the coverage to make a small donation? thank you for any info. a http://www.dearaddy.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Agreed, Rupert. Bottom line for me is, I think YouTube UI sucks. I think YouTube has always had many bugs and poor workflow. I think YouTube's terms suck. I think YouTube users who dont post but just comment with filth suck. I think YouTube appreciation for its content contributors has sucked for 95% of its lifespan and they are only now working in ways to improve that. I think YouTube logo sucks. I think YouTube flash player sucks. I dont think content contributors suck. I might think their content sucks, but that applies to anywhere on the web and has nothing to do with YouTube. sull On 3/6/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's true. The thing about comedians is, they always generalise about everything. ;-) People here (like me recently) have complained about YouTube's interface and methods, but never on the people creating content. I've not read anyone here express disdain for anyone posting video, just support. yes, it's less attractive to me as a distribution platform than Blip/my blog, partly because of the people who post hateful comments and because it's so competitive in feel and a closed streaming-only system. and i'm depressed that some people who would benefit from a videoblog might be turned off by the YouTube experience. but i would never turn my nose up at watching someone else using it. there is no inherent connection between quality of content and how you choose to distribute it. i doubt many here would disagree with that statement. Also, many MSM execs don't understand it, for many reasons - for instance some TV execs I've spoken to are genuinely mystified that so much excitement can be generated over some one-off 2 minute clip that a few hundred thousand people watch - they're thinking in terms of their sponsored series of hour long shows that attract millions, and they're not sure how they can use online video themselves - but all the major networks have started posting their content on there, and if they're going to look down on anyone, they'd probably look down on videobloggers more than those people who choose to tap into the vast audience switched onto YouTube (which they might be able to identify with as a one-stop TV channel). Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 6 Mar 2007, at 16:47, Mark Day wrote: Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives? A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube. Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum - bing!) It's funny, as we like to say in comedy, because it's true. Just some food for thought. Cheers Mark Day http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/markdaycomedy http://www.myspace.com/markday [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Actually, I'd admit, I raged on YouTube back in the day when it opened on this list, and have had a change of opinion seeing how the market responded... Videoblogging Yahoo Group, circa probably, what, early 2005? My account is from June and I was a bit late to the YT party then, since their TOS was horrible back then. That's part of the reason I bailed from the list for a while, it felt so judge, jury, and executioner about vlogging. Like we are the center of the universe or something since have coherent conversations. We're not. We just suffer from the same problem that 3248734928347298 web 2.0 startups in the bay area here suffer from. We think our shit don't stink and that unwashed Walmart mass culture doesn't matter because *we* might object to it. The Horror! ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters, unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean anything anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera and stuff like that. Plus humans are dead good at noticing differences. What seperates us, why are they different, they seem like a different tribe. Even something like using webcams as the norm rather than DV cams can create a funny sort of divide and noticable difference. I have to be careful here too because class may play a role in that - for poorer humans, webcams are a lot more accessible. Anyway I just cant use the word youtube as one blanket description for content type anymore. There seems to be 3 or 4 very different ways of using youtube. Much of the actual community/social aspect of it seemed extremely similar to social networking sites, with the same age bias and some underlying sense of a lot of youthful energy , directed at the sorts of things young people focus on. So I was extremely happy o see how popular that old uk bloke is on there, geriatric1927 or whatever his handle is. Yes there are quite a lot of people past their teens and 20's on there, but Im sure age is one imbalance that has a marked effect on youtube, its certainly responsible for many of the awful text comments. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack BillCammack@ wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mark Day markdaycomedy@ wrote: Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives? A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube. Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum - bing!) It's funny, as we like to say in comedy, because it's true. Just some food for thought. Cheers Mark Day http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/markdaycomedy http://www.myspace.com/markday For the most part, I agree with your generalization. Of course generalizations don't apply to everyone and perhaps not even most people, though one could gather from the conversations that go on in this group that you would be correct. YouTube is a vehicle... an arena. Nothing more and nothing less. There are people that have technical issues with YT and complain that they're a closed environment. That really doesn't have anything to do with the
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Here are the good things about YouTube; They've brought self-video publishing to the masses--literally, by making it dead simple to post video to the web. They made it easy to share (but not remix unfortunately) videos we love with embed codes. They've done a lot of this in a social way, with comments, buddy lists, playlists, groups and even video commenting and RSS feeds. Sure there are some problems with YouTube, but we should really appreciate it for what it is. They've attained a lot of the goals that early vloggers set out to do in the beginning.; to get as many people as possible communicating with each other via video on the Internet. The early problems with their terms of service kinda sucked (which I still believe are due to lazy lawyering and and over reliance on boiler plate), and I am still not a big fan of their player. But ultimately they've accomplished a lot and have moved this whole thing forward more than a lot of us have. I ain't no YouTube hater. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I'd admit, I raged on YouTube back in the day when it opened on this list, and have had a change of opinion seeing how the market responded... Videoblogging Yahoo Group, circa probably, what, early 2005? My account is from June and I was a bit late to the YT party then, since their TOS was horrible back then. That's part of the reason I bailed from the list for a while, it felt so judge, jury, and executioner about vlogging. Like we are the center of the universe or something since have coherent conversations. We're not. We just suffer from the same problem that 3248734928347298 web 2.0 startups in the bay area here suffer from. We think our shit don't stink and that unwashed Walmart mass culture doesn't matter because *we* might object to it. The Horror! ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters, unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean anything anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera and stuff like that. Plus humans are dead good at noticing differences. What seperates us, why are they different, they seem like a different tribe. Even something like using webcams as the norm rather than DV cams can create a funny sort of divide and noticable difference. I have to be careful here too because class may play a role in that - for poorer humans, webcams are a lot more accessible. Anyway I just cant use the word youtube as one blanket description for content type anymore. There seems to be 3 or 4 very different ways of using youtube. Much of the actual community/social aspect of it seemed extremely similar to social networking sites, with the same age bias and some underlying sense of a lot of youthful energy , directed at the sorts of things young people focus on. So I was extremely happy o see how popular that old uk bloke is on there, geriatric1927 or whatever his handle is. Yes there are quite a lot of people past their teens and 20's on there, but Im sure
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
To be honest whenever I try searching the group archive I usually find reasonable debate about these things, rarely stumble on the hating/disparaging remarks that I seem to remember. So for all I know there were only ever a small handful of such posts made, but this got merged with widespread complaints from this group about the youtube TOS, to create a perception that the group generally didnt like youtube at all. This thread from last summer seems like a good example, theres a lot of attention to the positive aspects and only the occasional hint of a wider dislike for youtube nd all it stands for: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/47073 Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the good things about YouTube; They've brought self-video publishing to the masses--literally, by making it dead simple to post video to the web. They made it easy to share (but not remix unfortunately) videos we love with embed codes. They've done a lot of this in a social way, with comments, buddy lists, playlists, groups and even video commenting and RSS feeds. Sure there are some problems with YouTube, but we should really appreciate it for what it is. They've attained a lot of the goals that early vloggers set out to do in the beginning.; to get as many people as possible communicating with each other via video on the Internet. The early problems with their terms of service kinda sucked (which I still believe are due to lazy lawyering and and over reliance on boiler plate), and I am still not a big fan of their player. But ultimately they've accomplished a lot and have moved this whole thing forward more than a lot of us have. I ain't no YouTube hater. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice eric@ wrote: Actually, I'd admit, I raged on YouTube back in the day when it opened on this list, and have had a change of opinion seeing how the market responded... Videoblogging Yahoo Group, circa probably, what, early 2005? My account is from June and I was a bit late to the YT party then, since their TOS was horrible back then. That's part of the reason I bailed from the list for a while, it felt so judge, jury, and executioner about vlogging. Like we are the center of the universe or something since have coherent conversations. We're not. We just suffer from the same problem that 3248734928347298 web 2.0 startups in the bay area here suffer from. We think our shit don't stink and that unwashed Walmart mass culture doesn't matter because *we* might object to it. The Horror! ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters, unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean anything anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera and stuff like that. Plus humans are dead good at noticing differences. What seperates us, why are they different, they seem like a different tribe. Even
[videoblogging] Tuesday FlashMeeting
The Tuesday March 6th FlashMeeting is on at 4:30pm - 7pm PST USA, 7:30pm - 10pm EST USA, 0:30am - 3am GMT (March 7th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/a8524d-7585 You may also check the Videoblogger Videoconferences page at voxmedia for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://www.voxmedia.org/wiki/Videoblogger_Videoconferences -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
giovanni gallucci - 9-13th - Saturday I'll be at Barcamp Austin.
RE: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Well, Eric, like you say, you raged on YouTube... but that's different from the users, isn't it...? which was what the original question was about. i think you're maybe right about the tone of discussions here some of the time. I'm not a bay area guy, or even an authority on anything, but I think we could have handled ourselves a little more sweetly when, for instance, Steve Chen of YouTube came to the Group like an eager puppy telling us that we were his focus group for telling him what his site should do and everyone basically told him his site was crap and they wouldn't use it. What incentive did he then have to change things for the better? I think the energy and rage comes from all these people who can see the way that things *could* be great, and the thought that Opening Things Up is the right way to go, and Closing Things Off is bad. In board meetings, talking to funders, and in all corporate decisions, it takes quite a lot of bravery to advocate a different way of doing things. Lord knows, I was never successful in persuading my board to even use web video to talk to investors, let alone tackle web 2.0 type things. Perhaps we could adopt a less aggressive tone towards those who do things 'badly', and rant about them less. But then maybe that would dissipate the great energy I see here. Who knows. All I know is that I never wrote to Steve Chen with my thoughts like I meant to a couple of weeks ago, and that I now have to go and clear out the hallway cupboard because it smells of dead mouse. Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org http://crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow On 6 Mar 2007, at 20:13, Eric Rice wrote: Actually, I'd admit, I raged on YouTube back in the day when it opened on this list, and have had a change of opinion seeing how the market responded... Videoblogging Yahoo Group, circa probably, what, early 2005? My account is from June and I was a bit late to the YT party then, since their TOS was horrible back then. That's part of the reason I bailed from the list for a while, it felt so judge, jury, and executioner about vlogging. Like we are the center of the universe or something since have coherent conversations. We're not. We just suffer from the same problem that 3248734928347298 web 2.0 startups in the bay area here suffer from. We think our shit don't stink and that unwashed Walmart mass culture doesn't matter because *we* might object to it. The Horror! ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters, unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean anything anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera and stuff like that. Plus humans are dead good at noticing differences. What seperates us, why are they different, they seem like a different tribe. Even something like using webcams as the norm rather than DV cams can create a funny sort of divide and noticable difference. I have to be careful here too because class may play a role in that - for poorer humans, webcams are a lot more accessible. Anyway I just cant use the word youtube as one blanket description for content type anymore.
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace From: sull
I was, of course, generalizing to make a point about generalization. And I do think it's true to say that the minute the subject of YouTube comes up, it seems to turn some people into the videoblogging equivalent of Republican senators talking about the internets. I will return to this topic and at least qualify my comments somewhat, but I got me a video to make before Dick Cheney drops dead and spoils it for me. MD http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/markday etc etc
[videoblogging] SuperHappyVlogHouse
Hey folks, the excitement is starting to build. SxSW? Nah! People are starting to sign up for SuperHappyVlogHouse :) March 31st-April 1st weekend. Check out the wiki. So far there are SHVH's at KityKity's, San Francisco, Grand Rapids, Pune India and the Ojai Digital Dojo http://superhapyvloghouse.pbwiki.com (password is on the wiki) Markus P.S. a shout out to anyone visiting the SoCal area that weekend to please join us up in beautiful Ojai. Guest cottage and rooms, couches and camping space are available (outdoors, weather permitting). http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com/OjaiDigitalDojo --- Markus Sandy http://OjaiDigitalDojo.net http://SpinXpress.com http://Ourmedia.org
[videoblogging] Re: crowdabout.us (was blog vs youtube myspace)
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carter, I'm loving crowdabout. I've uploaded my videos and added time-based comments. Brilliant. I see what you mean about the authorship of comments being clear. And I see a few people from this list have signed up today. Hey Rupert! The feeling is mutual; I saw your Big Shave video on CrowdAbout and loved it! For my latest post on my blog, I replaced my Blip player with a crowdabout embedded 'slim' player just to see. Looks nice. But could you also provide an embeddable player that shows the timeline comments, perhaps showing the text of comments as a semi-opaque overlay on top of the video? I would be happy to have a bigger player for this - isn't that what the Innertoob player did? (i've been reading your blog) Even if it meant that when people wanted to add comments themselves, they were taken to the crowdabout site, that'd be fine - just seems to be missing the obvious to have an embedded crowdabout player without crowdabout's big feature. There's a balance to be played between giving people incentives to put you on their blogs and making people use the crowdabout website. Yeah, you have hit upon the biggest area of decision waffling we have going right now - the embeddable player. I just don't think we are going to strike a balance that makes everyone happy with it, to be honest. Some people have definite size/design requirements when selecting a player for their site. But since at heart we aren't just another player (we're a commenting system and a social community), it would make more sense to get those comments into the embedded player. But if we try to do both (keep it small AND add the comments) suddenly it starts to overwhelm the content. And we would be foolish to EVER think that our system's capabilities supercedes a vlogger's content. So our decision (for now, but we are incredibly open to suggestions) was to leave the player as the content display widget, with a comment button that would allow a viewer to to make the leap into participation. Keeping these two functions somewhat separate (viewing and participating) seems to be the best compromise. BUT- The subject lines of each time-post DO appear in the progress bar area, so you can scrub through the content to see what those subjects say. And keep in mind that audio podcasters are using the service, too, and their desire for a small player is even more demanding, since they don't need space to display video. Also, I couldn't find the Social Player at crowdabout where you said you'd left comment love - am i being stupid? Sorry, I should have been more clear. Social Player is what we call the interactive, or conversational player on the CrowdAbout site. What I should have said was that I used the Social Player to leave you some audio-comment love in one of your videos. And here's the link for one of those comments: http://crowdabout.us/jump_in/cae83f209f616c5df If you or anyone has ideas about a better way to bring the comment reading/interactivity into the embeddable player, I'm all ears. I'm talking about undivided attention. Best, Carter http://crowdabout.us Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/fatgirlinohio/ http://crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 6 Mar 2007, at 05:30, caroosky wrote: Rupert, thanks for your comments about CrowdAbout! I appreciate your ideas as well. For now, each post and comment identifies who contributed it by the username, so it's pretty easy to follow a thread and see who said what. Interesting thoughts on the clickable video feature. We talked about overlaying icons and things on the screen to interact with, but in the end, it was taking away too much from the real content, which in our minds comes first, and should never be compromised. CrowdAbout is all about participation in and around the content. There are lots of tools for content creators to use to enhance their content with show notes, annotations, time markers, etc. These are all unidirectional tools by nature, becuase they can't be used by anyone except the content creator, at the time he is publishing the content. But the real point of CrowdAbout is conversation, and breaking the mass media walls down for good. Social Media should be social, right? Thanks again, Rupert, I left you some comment love in the Social player over at CrowdAbout, too. Carter http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: Carter, I really like what you guys are doing with crowdabout.us. Have you thought about separating Author comments from user comments, so that we can add links and extra description to stuff that's happening, as it happens - and mark this as different from the user comments - it might encourage more people to use it, because at the moment Comments feels like it's
[videoblogging] Re: camera for vlog and more
If you're looking for cost friendly camera that does it all.. I say go with the the Canon Elura 100. It not only has a mic input, it also can record in like a vcr. So if you want to convert all your VHS tapes to MiniDV you can, or if you need to Dub a DVD to MiniDV, you can. I'm taping most of my blog episodes with the Elura, but I'm also using a larger 3-chip XL1 for the professional situations. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was advised by some experienced vloggers and citizen journalists to solicit advice on this forum. It's a simple question... I'm looking for a camera. I would classify myself as a budget buyer, but have great aspirations for my videos on the web. I'm looking for the best bargain camera featuring a port for an external mic. The reviews I've come across seem to suggest that the Canon Elura 100 MiniDV Camcorder is my best bet. Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Much obliged.
[videoblogging] Re: VON Roll Call
Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one for VON. I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a vacation with my family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi. -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: camera for vlog and more
The Sanyo VPC-HD1a is appealing. I love that it can fit in my pocket, has the external mic port and macro shooting function. http://www.sanyodigital.com/video_cameras/HD1A/features.html The Canon zr500 is equally appealing. The camcorderinfo.com review is glowing. http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-ZR500-Camcorder- Review/ComparisonsConclusion.htm Beyond the price difference, (around $150 -- i found the Xacti for under $400) I don't know what criteria I should use to discriminate between the two models. Apples and oranges? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The canon zr500. It's 250 dollars and has a mic jack! -ryanne On 06 Mar 2007 06:02:21 -0800, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome - a simple question? Eh, sometimes. This topic comes up a lot but I have another place for you to check out. http://www.myceknowhow.com/digitalImaging.cfm At the bottom is a guide to digital camcorders. I haven't had time to snoop it out but it portends to be an interactive guide to selecting a camcorder. It is joint project of CNET and CEA. You can also visit http://reviews.cnet.com/Camcorders/2001-6500_7-0.html?tag=dir to start building your knowledge base. I have to go to the salt mine but if the others don't chime in I will have more places and possible camcorders for you to check out. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ben newman.ben@ wrote: I was advised by some experienced vloggers and citizen journalists to solicit advice on this forum. It's a simple question... I'm looking for a camera. I would classify myself as a budget buyer, but have great aspirations for my videos on the web. I'm looking for the best bargain camera featuring a port for an external mic. The reviews I've come across seem to suggest that the Canon Elura 100 MiniDV Camcorder is my best bet. Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Much obliged. -- Author of Secrets of Videoblogging http://tinyurl.com/me4vs Me http://RyanEdit.com, http://RyanIsHungry.com Educate http://FreeVlog.org, http://Node101.org Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com iChat/AIM VideoRodeo
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
I'm in Austin now -- (the 6th) and will be here til the 13th. Jen Simmons http://jensimmons.com http://milkweedmediadesign.com 267-235-6967
[videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
I moved everyone on the list to: http://vlogrollcall2007sxsw.pbwiki.com/ to consolidate the list. -Lan
Re: [videoblogging] Blog Marked as Spam by Bot
Hi everyone: On 3/1/07, Jan / Faux Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://fauxpress.blogspot.com WARNING This blog has been locked by Blogger's spam-prevention robots. You will not be able to publish your posts, but you will be able to save them as drafts. Save your post as a draft or click here for more about what's going on and how to get your blog unlocked. Have not been permitted to post since first thing this morning. Have gone through the captcha deal asking for review three times. It's been a full day now and frankly, this is unacceptable. How best to get a human being to take a look at this? Lots of videobloggers use your blog system. I'm sure their panties will be in collective bunches if your bot starts disabling their capacity to post. See why I'm moving all my stuff OFF of Blogger ASAP now? When I first saw Blogger 2.0 and first converted my old videoblog to it, only to find NO RSS feed URL for the entire blog (But rather RSS feeds for each post instead), somehow I just knew it was gonna be trouble by being podcast videoblog UNFRIENDLY. But then I figured why stop with just the podcast and videoblogs? Why not find new homes for EVERYTHING? Either that or kill my non-politcal text blog and convert it into a new videoblog instead. Did the same thing with my political blogs, only I just merged the two together with the videoblog being the surviving blog. My non-political blog is on LJ @ http;//pchamster.livejournal.com/ while my political blog will be morphed in as the blog portion of the TV version of my talk show @ http://thepatcookshow.livevideo.com/ (The page is customizable enough, I may as well use LiveVideo as the home for the show). That now leaves my two medical wonders blogs (I'll probably just kabosh the text version and move the video version to a new home as soon as I find one for it), my podcast (It will either move to LJ or, most likely, PodShow), and my text-based online soap opera (Which I don't really consider a blog anyway as it's a work of fiction), which has already been moved to LJ. Anyway, enough of what I've done and will do. My suggestion would be to GET OFF BLOGGER ASAP. What Google is doing to it is NOT good FOR ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES (Ohh...And their CORPORATE clientele too. Can't forget them!). SO LONG BLOGGER! You LOST A CUSTOMER when you rolled out Blogger 2.0. You can have your bugs. I'm going to places where I'm WELCOME. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado WEBSITES - AS MY WACKED OUT WORLD TURNS - http://pchamster.livejournal.com/ Pat's Health Medical Wonders VideoCast - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ MY LIVE CAM - http://patscam.camstreams.com/ YouTube Channel - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Totally offtopic kinda, but were you here for the great and mighty EL Woody and Cheryl Shuman incidents? That was some prime time stuff. :D ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Eric, like you say, you raged on YouTube... but that's different from the users, isn't it...? which was what the original question was about. i think you're maybe right about the tone of discussions here some of the time. I'm not a bay area guy, or even an authority on anything, but I think we could have handled ourselves a little more sweetly when, for instance, Steve Chen of YouTube came to the Group like an eager puppy telling us that we were his focus group for telling him what his site should do and everyone basically told him his site was crap and they wouldn't use it. What incentive did he then have to change things for the better? I think the energy and rage comes from all these people who can see the way that things *could* be great, and the thought that Opening Things Up is the right way to go, and Closing Things Off is bad. In board meetings, talking to funders, and in all corporate decisions, it takes quite a lot of bravery to advocate a different way of doing things. Lord knows, I was never successful in persuading my board to even use web video to talk to investors, let alone tackle web 2.0 type things. Perhaps we could adopt a less aggressive tone towards those who do things 'badly', and rant about them less. But then maybe that would dissipate the great energy I see here. Who knows. All I know is that I never wrote to Steve Chen with my thoughts like I meant to a couple of weeks ago, and that I now have to go and clear out the hallway cupboard because it smells of dead mouse. Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org http://crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow On 6 Mar 2007, at 20:13, Eric Rice wrote: Actually, I'd admit, I raged on YouTube back in the day when it opened on this list, and have had a change of opinion seeing how the market responded... Videoblogging Yahoo Group, circa probably, what, early 2005? My account is from June and I was a bit late to the YT party then, since their TOS was horrible back then. That's part of the reason I bailed from the list for a while, it felt so judge, jury, and executioner about vlogging. Like we are the center of the universe or something since have coherent conversations. We're not. We just suffer from the same problem that 3248734928347298 web 2.0 startups in the bay area here suffer from. We think our shit don't stink and that unwashed Walmart mass culture doesn't matter because *we* might object to it. The Horror! ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters, unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean anything anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera and stuff like that. Plus humans are dead good at noticing differences. What seperates us, why are they different, they seem like a different tribe. Even something like using webcams as the norm
Re: [videoblogging] Blog Marked as Spam by Bot
Hi everyone: On 3/6/07, Patrick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone: together with the videoblog being the surviving blog. My non-political blog is on LJ @ http;//pchamster.livejournal.com/ while my political blog will be morphed in as the blog portion of the TV version of my talk show @ http://thepatcookshow.livevideo.com/ (The page is customizable enough, I may as well use LiveVideo as the home for the show). Actually the CORRECT URL is http://www.livevideo.com/thepatcookshow (Don't use the URL above as you will not get anywhere). Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado WEBSITES - AS MY WACKED OUT WORLD TURNS - http://pchamster.livejournal.com/ Pat's Health Medical Wonders VideoCast - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ MY LIVE CAM - http://patscam.camstreams.com/ YouTube Channel - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best: getting video up on the web and available to a massively large potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an indispensible tool. But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick drive-by style comment. This snobbery does not extend to content creators, though. And while I'm making admissions, I will additionally confess that I am wildly idealistic about how our collective community of content creators can mold and shape the fabric of the internet, as well as the discussions taking place not only in this medium, but offline as well. But as a builder of tools, I try (although I probably don't always succeed) to just build something cool, and then let others tell me how they prefer to use it. I am often surprised to learn the ways that people are using a tool for an advantage I never would have imagined in a hundred years. The creativity of others is inspiring, to say the least. And much of that inspiration is viewable on YouTube. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters, unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean anything anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera and stuff like that. Plus humans are dead good at noticing differences. What seperates us, why are they different, they seem like a different tribe. Even something like using webcams as the norm rather than DV cams can create a funny sort of divide and noticable difference. I have to be careful here too because class may play a role in that - for poorer humans, webcams are a lot more accessible. Anyway I just cant use the word youtube as one blanket description for content type anymore. There seems to be 3 or 4 very different ways of using youtube. Much of the actual community/social aspect of it seemed extremely similar to social networking sites, with the same age bias and some underlying sense of a lot of youthful energy , directed at the sorts of things young people focus on. So I was extremely happy o see how popular that old uk bloke is on there, geriatric1927 or whatever his handle is. Yes there are quite a lot of people past their teens and 20's on there, but Im sure age is one imbalance that has a marked effect on youtube, its certainly responsible
[videoblogging] Pure Digital Video Samples
I know that money is a issue for some vloggers and newbies. The Pure and Simple Camcorder is an option, especially if you get it on sale at Target. Online they do have the Pure Digital PSV-352 60 minute and the Pure Digital PSV-351 30 minute versions. Some of the drugstores sell this as well (Don't buy the one time use version tho - rip off.) There are benefits to owning the P/S but you have to be an informed vlogger. Before you plunk down currency take a look at the sample videos. Grouper is one of the sites that allows uploading of the videos so this is a good place to check out the range of shooting lighting situations that the camcorder can and can't handle. http://grouper.com/video/MediaDetails.aspx?u=8pzhf=-kvt=1 For the record, it is not anywhere near DVD, HD, and I'm thinking not even Hi-8 quality. But for experimental vlogs, quick dirty videos or just to have it to carry every day this is doable. Besides the price of these gizmos keeps dropping. Other reviews: http://thetechteachers.blogspot.com/2006/05/pure-digital-camcorder-review.html http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1970983,00.asp?kc=PCRSS05039TX1K751 Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
[videoblogging] Re: Tuesday FlashMeeting
No flash meeting Tuesday? I am signed on but.no one is there, figures the first flash meeting I come to (well the second actually) and no one is thereI am really begining to think you all don't like me.. ;) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Tuesday March 6th FlashMeeting is on at 4:30pm - 7pm PST USA, 7:30pm - 10pm EST USA, 0:30am - 3am GMT (March 7th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/a8524d-7585 You may also check the Videoblogger Videoconferences page at voxmedia for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://www.voxmedia.org/wiki/Videoblogger_Videoconferences -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
OMG yes. :D That was back when I was just a lurker. Now, for some reason, I can't stop writing long rambling posts - I've got to slow it down and do some work before I become the next Cheryl Shuman (The One And Only). I just Googled her to see where she is now. Weirdly, she just posted something on her blog yesterday, after months of silence. She's been very ill, by the sound of her blog at http:// www.cherylshuman.blogspot.com/ and she is now posting things on YouTube at: (this is a genius URL) http://www.youtube.com/CherylShuman90210 She's posted around 60 videos in the last week. She is the No 7 most subscribed Director this week. So. The thing I really remember about the whole Cheryl debacle was the anticipation before it finally kicked off... you could feel the irritation building and you just knew it was only a matter of time... Sigh. The Old Wild West. What's that line from Vertigo: I want to know who shot who in the Embarcadero in August, 1879 Feels like quite a different group now, looking back on that. Probably for both better and worse. Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 7 Mar 2007, at 00:00, Eric Rice wrote: Totally offtopic kinda, but were you here for the great and mighty EL Woody and Cheryl Shuman incidents? That was some prime time stuff. :D ER [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Elbows's link to the old discussion on YouTube brought up something I've wanted to ask for a while. It seems to me, looking around a lot of vlogs, that there are less comments than there used to be. Is this a recognised thing in the blogosphere or vlogosphere? Have other people noticed the same thing? Or am I wrong? I would imagine that a huge attraction for people on YouTube is that there's so much commenting. Even if some of the comments are not very nice. I watch most vlogs while travelling on the Tube or train, so I don't always remember to comment. I'm trying hard to get better at it. Have aggregators and mobile devices reduced interaction? Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 7 Mar 2007, at 00:17, caroosky wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best: getting video up on the web and available to a massively large potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an indispensible tool. But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick drive-by style comment. This snobbery does not extend to content creators, though. And while I'm making admissions, I will additionally confess that I am wildly idealistic about how our collective community of content creators can mold and shape the fabric of the internet, as well as the discussions taking place not only in this medium, but offline as well. But as a builder of tools, I try (although I probably don't always succeed) to just build something cool, and then let others tell me how they prefer to use it. I am often surprised to learn the ways that people are using a tool for an advantage I never would have imagined in a hundred years. The creativity of others is inspiring, to say the least. And much of that inspiration is viewable on YouTube. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters, unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean anything anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera and stuff like that. Plus humans are dead good at noticing differences. What seperates us, why are they different, they seem like a different tribe. Even something like using webcams as the norm rather than DV cams can create a funny sort of divide and
[videoblogging] help watching on tv
Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear phone jack ... nope Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of lost I got from iPod store in .m4v I can't believe that would work in my dvd player. Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything else, maybe copy protection, I don't know. ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Tuesday FlashMeeting
Sorry Heath (and others), I went shopping and just landed at a cafe with wifi. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No flash meeting Tuesday? I am signed on but.no one is there, figures the first flash meeting I come to (well the second actually) and no one is thereI am really begining to think you all don't like me.. ;) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric enric@ wrote: The Tuesday March 6th FlashMeeting is on at 4:30pm - 7pm PST USA, 7:30pm - 10pm EST USA, 0:30am - 3am GMT (March 7th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/a8524d-7585 You may also check the Videoblogger Videoconferences page at voxmedia for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://www.voxmedia.org/wiki/Videoblogger_Videoconferences -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: Tuesday FlashMeeting
I managed to sign in as well for five or more minutes at 7:30 EST. It had the clock running but no one was there. I was disappointed since I had planned my evening around it since it is terribly cold outside in NYC tonight. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Heath (and others), I went shopping and just landed at a cafe with wifi. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: No flash meeting Tuesday? I am signed on but.no one is there, figures the first flash meeting I come to (well the second actually) and no one is thereI am really begining to think you all don't like me.. ;) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric enric@ wrote: The Tuesday March 6th FlashMeeting is on at 4:30pm - 7pm PST USA, 7:30pm - 10pm EST USA, 0:30am - 3am GMT (March 7th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/a8524d-7585 You may also check the Videoblogger Videoconferences page at voxmedia for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://www.voxmedia.org/wiki/Videoblogger_Videoconferences -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv
Richard, Have you tried this? http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/11/18/video-ipod.html That works for me with my iPod on the TV. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear phone jack ... nope Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of lost I got from iPod store in .m4v I can't believe that would work in my dvd player. Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything else, maybe copy protection, I don't know. ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Roll Call
i'll be there 9-13 and dont forget to stop by my booth so i can interview you for my new show ! expo floor y'all On 3/6/07, Lan Bui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I moved everyone on the list to: http://vlogrollcall2007sxsw.pbwiki.com/ to consolidate the list. -Lan -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?productLearnMore=M9267G%2FA The Apple DVI to Video Adapter was designed to allow Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power Mac G5 users to connect the DVI port to an S-video or Composite video device such as TVs, VCRs or overhead projectors with S-Video or RCA (Composite) connectors. The Apple DVI to Video Adapter is designed to work with the DVI port on the Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT) MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power Mac G5 systems only. Use a separate DVI to VGA Adapter for VGA video out for Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 (included with all Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 systems or available for order as a standalone kit). Important: Requires Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 with DVI port. -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV
[videoblogging] Youtube documents
This needs some fact checking, but interesting link. http://digg.com/tech_news/Internal_YouTube_Document_Leaked While the YouTube terms of service are explicit — it seems that some clips that are obviously infringing can stay up for a while while others are pulled for no good reason. Thankfully, we've gotten our hands on the super-secret (and super-legit, really!) flowchart which outlines YouTube's content policing policy once and for all. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] test
[videoblogging] Good - Ok, Bad Ugly - not Ok! or How to: Control info on the Net
Dang! I cannot get me post to go through with all me comments intact. ARGGGH matey!! We're sorry, but we were unable to complete your request at this time. If you continue to receive this error for more than 48 hours, please contact our Customer Care team. We apologize for this inconvenience. So here is the link w/o any of my two cents http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/06/franceban/index.php
[videoblogging] Re: Youtube documents
ROFLOL! Too funny. I can't decide which is the most outragously funny part; Magic 8-ball, wee wees, or call Eric on secret #. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This needs some fact checking, but interesting link. http://digg.com/tech_news/Internal_YouTube_Document_Leaked You have figured out this a parody by now, right? NO! say it isn't so! Here I am http://jaydedman.com Nice find, adding it to my pile of whacky images. Dave
[videoblogging] Re: SuperHappyVlogHouse
People are starting to sign up for SuperHappyVlogHouse :) March 31st-April 1st weekend. Awww. I wish we could do one in Atlanta, but I'm doing 'Stache Bash on the night of the 31st (http://www.stachebash.com/). I'll be vlogging it, though! Ben
[videoblogging] Re: Good - Ok, Bad Ugly - not Ok! or How to: Control info on the Net
Trying to trick it by replying to my own post France bans citizen journalists from reporting violence I know this is across the pond. It still troubles me. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/06/franceban/index.php The French Constitutional Council has approved a law that criminalizes the filming or broadcasting of acts of violence by people other than professional journalists. The law could lead to the imprisonment of eyewitnesses who film acts of police violence, or operators of Web sites publishing the images, one French civil liberties group warned on Tuesday.snip
[videoblogging] Re: Good - Ok, Bad Ugly - not Ok! or How to: Control info on the Net
Bad, very bad and damn short sited. How to kill a democracy or stand up to injustice in one governmental flick of the pen. Not that this will stop people from recording or publishing. There would be no reason to identify yourself just upload and let the world know what your local police, city or country is trying to hide. Madness knows no boundaries. I just hope this doesn't become contagious. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang! I cannot get me post to go through with all me comments intact. ARGGGH matey!! We're sorry, but we were unable to complete your request at this time. If you continue to receive this error for more than 48 hours, please contact our Customer Care team. We apologize for this inconvenience. So here is the link w/o any of my two cents http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/06/franceban/index.php
[videoblogging] Re: SuperHappyVlogHouse
http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com/ Link correction. -Lan www.LanBui.com
Re: [videoblogging] help watching on tv
I just bought an HDMI DVI Cable for $5.03. http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/steve-tv-ii-hdmi-dvi- cable.html or http://tinyurl.com/ytxvn4 On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Richard (Show) Hall wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear phone jack ... nope Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of lost I got from iPod store in .m4v I can't believe that would work in my dvd player. Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything else, maybe copy protection, I don't know. ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Interesting observation. I don't notice any change. But then again I always got about two comments a week. :) But I'd like to hear from a few vloggers who get more comments. Who are posting about the same amount of videos as they did a year or two ago. The community has changed, it's gotten a lot bigger, I wonder if it's gotten less personal though. BTW, I still leave a couple comments a day too. Maybe a few less come to think of it. I still watch about... 20 - 30 videos a day. Probably a few less then I used to, but I'm far more selective. probably skim about 80 vlog posts (the text) or more a day, but I don't watch them all obviously. Peace, -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 3/6/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elbows's link to the old discussion on YouTube brought up something I've wanted to ask for a while. It seems to me, looking around a lot of vlogs, that there are less comments than there used to be. Is this a recognised thing in the blogosphere or vlogosphere? Have other people noticed the same thing? Or am I wrong? I would imagine that a huge attraction for people on YouTube is that there's so much commenting. Even if some of the comments are not very nice. I watch most vlogs while travelling on the Tube or train, so I don't always remember to comment. I'm trying hard to get better at it. Have aggregators and mobile devices reduced interaction? Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 7 Mar 2007, at 00:17, caroosky wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best: getting video up on the web and available to a massively large potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an indispensible tool. But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick drive-by style comment. This snobbery does not extend to content creators, though. And while I'm making admissions, I will additionally confess that I am wildly idealistic about how our collective community of content creators can mold and shape the fabric of the internet, as well as the discussions taking place not only in this medium, but offline as well. But as a builder of tools, I try (although I probably don't always succeed) to just build something cool, and then let others tell me how they prefer to use it. I am often surprised to learn the ways that people are using a tool for an advantage I never would have imagined in a hundred years. The creativity of others is inspiring, to say the least. And much of that inspiration is viewable on YouTube. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SuperHappyVlogHouse
thanks Lan! Looking forward to seeing you and Bonnie there. Usually i mistype 'Super' as 'Supper'. I think that just means we're going have good food too :) markus p.s., Lucas Gonze was just asking after you and other SoCal vloggers in the LAbarcamp list. they want vloggers to keep coming to their meetups. they say they need fresh blood. must be a zombie thing ;) On Mar 6, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Lan Bui wrote: http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com/ Link correction. --- Markus Sandy http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: VON Roll Call
There was another thread started on this topic. I will be there as will Miss Casey McKinnon. At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us to indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can do this again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about video on the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all. Rox On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one for VON. I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a vacation with my family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi. -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com
