[videoblogging] Videoblogging Flashmeetings
I'm going to stop for the time being booking flashmeetings. If someone else who has a booking account wants to continue, feel free. Thanks, Enric
[videoblogging] Re: All the Vlogging News on One Page - Vlog Razor
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Cheryl, I've aggregated the Node101'[s whose blogs are working under Node101 Planet. (I'll add the others once they start working again.) I get the daily digest version of the videoblogging group, so I just saw your note about the feeds. Here is the list that I aggregate. I included the last update time frame so you can decide whether you think the node is active. I would love people to correct me if these are wrong or have moved, or I've missed a node, etc: Boston Media Makers http://bostonmediamakers.wordpress.com/feed/ updated 3 weeks ago Freevlog http://feeds.feedburner.com/freevlog/tutorials updated 12 days ago Bay Area http://bayarea.node101.org/atom.xml updated 5 months ago Grand Rapids http://feeds.feedburner.com/Node101GrandRapids updated 15 months ago NYC http://feeds.feedburner.com/Node101Nyc updated 9 months ago San Antonio http://www.node101sanantonio.org/?feed=rss2 updated 9 months ago OC http://ocvideoblogging.org/vlog/?feed=rss2 updated 7 months ago Digital Dojo (Ojai) http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo updated 2 months ago FauxPress (Road Node) http://feeds.feedburner.com/diaryofafauxjournalist updated 2 weeks ago Phoenix http://node101phoenix.org/feed/ updated 2 days ago -Cheryl
RE: [videoblogging] A Webby Request: 5 Clever Words
How about this Dina Keep Shooting Keep Uploading.Entertain. Anil --- Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal vote: We'd like to thank our users. It's six words, but hey. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dinarebecca Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:03 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] A Webby Request: 5 Clever Words Hi you guys! Wanted to solicit some help for our five-word (or less) acceptance speech at the Webbies. Justin has the best one I've heard so far: Please. Keep. Uploading. Does anyone have any other thoughts/ideas/suggestions? (Also, the tickets are insane this year, so if anyone - by any chance - has an extra ticket we would LOVE to buy that from you and will be forever and ever and ever grateful!) Thanks so much, Dina Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anil K Banskota Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
[videoblogging] quick question
Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
Re: [videoblogging] Happy Birthday Videoblogging List
Hey, we're 3 years old! http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/1 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/2 happy birthday to everyone. (Its my real 34th birthday today as well) its pretty amazing what this group has done. Mainly helping each other learn how to best post video to the web. In just the past 3 years, we've collectively made an amazing amount of varied work that is now archived online. We've had influence in building and pushing the technology being used. When we started, it was always difficult to explain to people what we did. Now its all mainstream. Youtube really helped gain awareness. A videoblogger can get a lot of attention noweven paid(!)but it also equally important those of us who are just recording our world/ideas over time. In 20 years, we'll all have movies of our lives that the world has never seen before. our grandkids are going to flip. we spent much of the early years futzing with HOW to videoblog. Now we can focus on WHAT we're actually making, distributing, and archiving. This is how we'll help to continue to push it forward. for me it's all about content now. Now is a good time to write something you remember down on the Vlogumentary wiki http://vlogumentary.pbwiki.com/ yeah...do a brain dump whenever you might have joined. many of us had that ah-ha moment. be good to record that change. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC-LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] Introduction and First questions
Hello, I just joined this group, so be gentle with the broom handles. Anyways, my name is John Campbell. I do a podcast called Comics Radar, fairly obviously (I think) about Comic Books, and because comic books are such a visual medium, I've been interested in doing a video version of the podcast. Also I just love playing with tech toys, so that's why I'm here. And really, the biggest stumbling for me has been the software. the only camera I have right now is a Sony DSC-M2, which films in MPEG 4 format, so can anyone recommend what software I could use to edit and encode it. The other thing I really want to do is be able to do a voiceover while watching the video. I want to be able to show the comics pages and pan over them. while talking out the review of the book. The other thing I would like to do would be to put in the image, while I'm on camera like the news does. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations and/or reviews of what software would allow me to do all of these things. I think the Pinnacle 11 plus allows me to do all of this, but if any of you have experience or a better recommendation, what do you recommend I use?
[videoblogging] Re: All the Vlogging News on One Page - Vlog Razor
Vlog Razor is now syndicating the Vlogger Calendar too. On 6/1/07, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get all the Vlogging News on One Page with... Vlog Razor http://vlograzor.com/ Good for * People who like to see all the news summarized on one page. * People who don't like using Feed aggregators * People who don't have their Feed aggregators with them (at work, on the road, etc) See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ ___ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/ -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ All the Vlogging News on One Page http://vlograzor.com/
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] Re: Introduction and First questions
I forgot to mention I'm on PC. so iFilm/iMovie is not an option for me. -JMCampbell comicsradar.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JM Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone had recommendations and/or reviews of what software would allow me to do all of these things. I think the Pinnacle 11 plus allows me to do all of this, but if any of you have experience or a better recommendation, what do you recommend I use?
Re: [videoblogging] Re: All the Vlogging News on One Page - Vlog Razor
Hello Cheryl, I've updated the list. Thanks. On 6/4/07, Cheryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Cheryl, I've aggregated the Node101'[s whose blogs are working under Node101 Planet. (I'll add the others once they start working again.) I get the daily digest version of the videoblogging group, so I just saw your note about the feeds. Here is the list that I aggregate. I included the last update time frame so you can decide whether you think the node is active. I would love people to correct me if these are wrong or have moved, or I've missed a node, etc: Boston Media Makers http://bostonmediamakers.wordpress.com/feed/ updated 3 weeks ago Freevlog http://feeds.feedburner.com/freevlog/tutorials updated 12 days ago Bay Area http://bayarea.node101.org/atom.xml updated 5 months ago Grand Rapids http://feeds.feedburner.com/Node101GrandRapids updated 15 months ago NYC http://feeds.feedburner.com/Node101Nyc updated 9 months ago San Antonio http://www.node101sanantonio.org/?feed=rss2 updated 9 months ago OC http://ocvideoblogging.org/vlog/?feed=rss2 updated 7 months ago Digital Dojo (Ojai) http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo updated 2 months ago FauxPress (Road Node) http://feeds.feedburner.com/diaryofafauxjournalist updated 2 weeks ago Phoenix http://node101phoenix.org/feed/ updated 2 days ago -Cheryl -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ All the Vlogging News on One Page http://vlograzor.com/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: All the Vlogging News on One Page - Vlog Razor
that's great :) On 6/2/07, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Pepa, I've added you. Your full name is Pepa García right? (That's how I've added you on there. Let me know if I got it wrong.) See ya On 6/2/07, pepa [EMAIL PROTECTED] puritito.tomate%40gmail.com wrote: hey charles, good idea. i don't know if you are interested in my 'vlogs en su tinta' (it's in spanish), but it's also a blog over vlogging: http://vlogsensutinta.blogspot.com thanks for your work, anyway. cheers! On 6/2/07, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]supercanadian%40gmail.com wrote: Hello, On 6/2/07, Devlon Duthie [EMAIL PROTECTED] duthied%40gmail.comduthied%40gmail.com wrote: :) cool. Hm...I wonder if we could get a feed of all the blogs from vlogging related sites/services (blip, feedburner, dtv, mefeedia, vlogmap, vlogdir, etc, etc., etc.)like a feed of updates, news, etc. Good idea! I'll set something up a little later today. (Got to go out for a bit. And thus will be away from the computer for 3 or 4 hours.) BTW... did you notice I've got the (text) blogs or various vloggers aggregated under Television Makers? I'm still trying to get a complete list though (of vloggers' blogs.). Not everyone is on there yet. If anyone wants to point out their (text) blog to me, please do and I'll add you. See ya Thanks, Devlon Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: OK... I've rearranged things a bit. How does the ordering look now to everyone? On 6/2/07, Devlon Duthie [EMAIL PROTECTED] duthied%40gmail.comduthied%40gmail.com wrote: Very cool. If loadedpun.com's stuff could be at the bottom of that page...it might make more sense...it hasn't been updated for months and I doubt it ever will. Thanks, Devlon Duthie http://devlonduthie.com Find great independent video: http://mefeedia.com Cheryl wrote: This is really cool - I like it. Unless I'm mistaken, you missed 2 things... Jan of FauxPress and I and probably others have been using these del.icio.us tags to bookmark vlog news items: http://del.icio.us/tag/vlogpresskit (for news about vlogging in general) http://del.icio.us/tag/vloggersinthenews (for when we spot vloggers in news items) Can you aggregate those into the mix at vlograzor.com? Also, anyone here can add those tags to their own del.icio.us bookmarks in order to add to the stream. I think that's cool! -- Cheryl Colan hummingcrow.com node101phoenix.org whatwefound.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get all the Vlogging News on One Page with... Vlog Razor http://vlograzor.com/ Good for * People who like to see all the news summarized on one page. * People who don't like using Feed aggregators * People who don't have their Feed aggregators with them (at work, on the road, etc) See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ __ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ __ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/ -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ All the Vlogging News on One Page http://vlograzor.com/ -- http://www.istalkr.com/users/pepa -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ cutting out the crap... just vlogging news http://vlograzor.com/ -- http://www.istalkr.com/users/pepa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Introduction and First questions
Hello, I've seen others recommend the following... (in no particular order...) Ulead http://www.ulead.com/ Serif MoviePlus 5 http://www.serif.com/movieplus/movieplus5/index.asp VirtualDub http://www.virtualdub.org/ - with - TMPGEnc http://www.tmpgenc.net/ -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ All the Vlogging News on One Page http://vlograzor.com/ On 6/4/07, JM Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention I'm on PC. so iFilm/iMovie is not an option for me. -JMCampbell comicsradar.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JM Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone had recommendations and/or reviews of what software would allow me to do all of these things. I think the Pinnacle 11 plus allows me to do all of this, but if any of you have experience or a better recommendation, what do you recommend I use?
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
Out of interest and in case there may be a different solution, how are you creating your mov's at the moment? using mov export from some video editing software, or using a different converter app? If so, which one version? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] Apple TV youtube support means h264 from youtube
Its pretty much confirmed with Apple's recent announcement about Youtbe Apple TV support, that this means youtube will be offering videos in the h264 format. Initially it will be popular videos, and new uploads, that are available in h264, starting sometime this month, and then by the autumn they plan to have converted the entire youtube catalog, I think. Im sure its no co-incidence that the timing also fits in with the US iphone launch at the end of the month. So Apples initial suggestion that iphone youtube support could be done by youtube offering h264, rather than the iphone supporting flash, seems to have come true. It remains to be seem whether youtube will offer the h264 versions of videos through its normal service, allow people to download them easily, syndicate them, or whether they will try to keep it an Apple excusive feature for now. Also isnt clear whether youtube will leave peoples videos unchanged if they upload them in h264, or whether the youtube system will always recompress. Here's a story about this stuff from newteevee: http://newteevee.com/2007/06/03/youtube-goes-h264-thanks-to-apple/ Anyway as a h264 preacher Im very happy with all the progress made on adoption of this stuff over the last 2 years, come a long way, Im still shocked and happy that even Microsoft support it now on the xbox360. The only missing peices of the jigsaw that remain are wider choice of encoders for windows, and alternative h264-capable browser player plugin for those that dont like quicktime. Cheers Steve Elbows
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
I'm using the light version of Sony Vegas, it has a standard .mov export, but I have been messing with it, trying to make it Ipod compatible, guess it is not working.. ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of interest and in case there may be a different solution, how are you creating your mov's at the moment? using mov export from some video editing software, or using a different converter app? If so, which one version? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quick question
.mov export in Vegas sucks. It's not worth using at all. Pay for quicktime pro. It isn't all that expensive and it is worth it for the conversion tools. On 6/4/07, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the light version of Sony Vegas, it has a standard .mov export, but I have been messing with it, trying to make it Ipod compatible, guess it is not working.. ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of interest and in case there may be a different solution, how are you creating your mov's at the moment? using mov export from some video editing software, or using a different converter app? If so, which one version? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com -- Daniel J. Geduld Audio: http://www.everyonesvoice.com Video: http://www.flyingsquidstudios.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Anyone try the Elgato Turbo 264?
Thanks :) No joy on getting any samples from them so far I guess, oh well I will do their sales job for them by reporting my initial findings: Test machine 1: iMac G5 2Ghz, Tiger, 2GB RAM Source file: DV PAL clip, 720x576, 25fps. 23 seconds long, interlaced. File loaded into quicktime 7.1.6 Exported to the following formats. First time is without elgato hardware, 2nd time is with the Turbo 264: Apple TV preset: 5 mins 54sec 0 mins 43sec Ipod 640x480 preset: 2 mins 20 sec0 mins 30 sec Ipod 320x240*: 1 mins 9 sec 0 mins 23 sec * Apple dont offer a default 320sx240 ipod preset anymore, wheras elgato turbo 264 offers it as an option for the ipod preset. So for the non-hardware encoding time, I used manual settings, h264 baseline single pass. The time for non-hardware assisted multipass 320x240 on this imac was 2 mins 27 seconds. That concludes test part one, as you can see it made a phenomenal difference to encoding times. Expect time difference to be much less on macbook that will be used in test 2. Other great news: Turbo 264 appears to deinterlace the footage! Woo this is great, because the apple quicktime exports that use 640x480 or higher are not deinterlacing at all, which is causing very bad quality for people using interlaced footage as source material, and not deinterlacing using some other method. The turbo 264 deinterlacing isnt the best Ive ever seen, seems to use a frame combining method that can cause blurring, but its still a heck of a lot better than the awful stuff that quicktime will spit out for apple TV if people arent careful with this issue. I'll post samples ASAP so ou can see what I mean for yourselves. Other factors that I havent had time to study properly yet include quality and filesize. So far the Turbo 264 seems to be producing files that are a bit smaller than the normal quicktime (eg 8.8MB instead of 95.MB, 3.4MB instead of 4.7MB), although this could be due to quicktime lack of deinterlacing making the encoding less bitrate-efficient, wasting bits recording all those horrible interlace jaggies. As you can probably tell Im rather happy and impressed so far, the only thing that could now cause me not to recommend this device is if the quality of footage is noticably worse under careful examination, not sure yet. Cheers Steve Elbows PS. The Elgato quicktime presets also use the sensible file extension .mp4 rather than Apples silly .m4v, added bonus :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know the product and don't own a Mac (so couldn't try it), but do know its creator. I've pointed him at this thread to see if they can get some sample clips up. -- read my latest blog post: Leone Candies http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/DeirdrStraughan/~3/75821866/ --Blogsigs.com, Link your own blog posts. http://www.blogsigs.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Introduction and First questions
And really, the biggest stumbling for me has been the software. the only camera I have right now is a Sony DSC-M2, which films in MPEG 4 format, so can anyone recommend what software I could use to edit and encode it. The other thing I really want to do is be able to do a voiceover while watching the video. I want to be able to show the comics pages and pan over them. while talking out the review of the book. The other thing I would like to do would be to put in the image, while I'm on camera like the news does. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations and/or reviews of what software would allow me to do all of these things. I think the Pinnacle 11 plus allows me to do all of this, but if any of you have experience or a better recommendation, what do you recommend I use? there's a bunch of PC editors on this list who should shout out. Heath? I know Premiere is a good comparison to Mac's Final Cut Pro. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quick question
From what I recall ... it's not vegas' fault but Quicktime's. There is something about the Windows Quicktime API that is not exposed to windows applications (not even if you have QT Pro installed). I'm pretty sure its the AAC audio codec. Basically windows applications cant request the AAC codec be used via the QT API. You can use all sorts of other QT stuff ... but cant do ipod formatted video without QT Pro ... because on a windows box only QT pro is going to be able to access the parts of QT for Windows that allows for AAC audio compression. ... poorly described ... but the bottom line is that in windows you need QT Pro, and you have to actually use it (not some other app) to do the final compression. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] Introduction and First questions
I'm a huge fan of Premiere Elements. Its about $100 I think. If you ask me its the best one out there in that price range (for windows). The full blown Premiere is more expensive (and has more features). Lots of people are fond of Sony Vegas ... I personally don't like it but that probably just me. As an example here are few videos I made using Premiere Elements: http://www.davidmeade.com/archives/22 http://www.davidmeade.com/archives/30 http://www.davidmeade.com/archives/45 - Dave On 6/4/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And really, the biggest stumbling for me has been the software. the only camera I have right now is a Sony DSC-M2, which films in MPEG 4 format, so can anyone recommend what software I could use to edit and encode it. The other thing I really want to do is be able to do a voiceover while watching the video. I want to be able to show the comics pages and pan over them. while talking out the review of the book. The other thing I would like to do would be to put in the image, while I'm on camera like the news does. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations and/or reviews of what software would allow me to do all of these things. I think the Pinnacle 11 plus allows me to do all of this, but if any of you have experience or a better recommendation, what do you recommend I use? there's a bunch of PC editors on this list who should shout out. Heath? I know Premiere is a good comparison to Mac's Final Cut Pro. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
[videoblogging] Re: Introduction and First questions
Yeah, I wanted to think a bit before I answered, that and my son's nearly losing his finger (s) adventure, got me sidetracked. I use the light version of Sony Vegas, but it does not handle mp4, unless it is an mp4 .mov extenstion. Otherwise if it is a straight mp4 you would have to buy the full version of Vegas which is about 400 bucks. I had issues with Adobe's version but I hear it's better now, and it can handle mp4. If you have Vista on your PC I think the new version of Windows movie maker can handle mp4 and that is free so... Ulead is Ok, but you really don't have a lot of user control, it's really spoon fed to you, which if you are starting out may be good, but you could outgrow it pretty quickly, it depends. A lot of programs now will let you try them for 30 days I would just start downloading those trial versions, mess around with them, see what you like and go from there. Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And really, the biggest stumbling for me has been the software. the only camera I have right now is a Sony DSC-M2, which films in MPEG 4 format, so can anyone recommend what software I could use to edit and encode it. The other thing I really want to do is be able to do a voiceover while watching the video. I want to be able to show the comics pages and pan over them. while talking out the review of the book. The other thing I would like to do would be to put in the image, while I'm on camera like the news does. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations and/or reviews of what software would allow me to do all of these things. I think the Pinnacle 11 plus allows me to do all of this, but if any of you have experience or a better recommendation, what do you recommend I use? there's a bunch of PC editors on this list who should shout out. Heath? I know Premiere is a good comparison to Mac's Final Cut Pro. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
Of course that would be the answer, Jobs and Gates never heard the song Ebony and Ivory I am guessing ;-) you know the whole part about living together in perfect harmonyok, maybe I am the only one who thought that was funny Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I recall ... it's not vegas' fault but Quicktime's. There is something about the Windows Quicktime API that is not exposed to windows applications (not even if you have QT Pro installed). I'm pretty sure its the AAC audio codec. Basically windows applications cant request the AAC codec be used via the QT API. You can use all sorts of other QT stuff ... but cant do ipod formatted video without QT Pro ... because on a windows box only QT pro is going to be able to access the parts of QT for Windows that allows for AAC audio compression. ... poorly described ... but the bottom line is that in windows you need QT Pro, and you have to actually use it (not some other app) to do the final compression. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
[videoblogging] Re: Introduction and First questions
As a side note I would stay away from Pinnicle...when it works it's great...but it only seems to work about 5% of the time, it crashes a lot...at least it did for me and by looking at the forums and user feedback on cnet, amazon, etc, I was not alone... Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JM Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just joined this group, so be gentle with the broom handles. Anyways, my name is John Campbell. I do a podcast called Comics Radar, fairly obviously (I think) about Comic Books, and because comic books are such a visual medium, I've been interested in doing a video version of the podcast. Also I just love playing with tech toys, so that's why I'm here. And really, the biggest stumbling for me has been the software. the only camera I have right now is a Sony DSC-M2, which films in MPEG 4 format, so can anyone recommend what software I could use to edit and encode it. The other thing I really want to do is be able to do a voiceover while watching the video. I want to be able to show the comics pages and pan over them. while talking out the review of the book. The other thing I would like to do would be to put in the image, while I'm on camera like the news does. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations and/or reviews of what software would allow me to do all of these things. I think the Pinnacle 11 plus allows me to do all of this, but if any of you have experience or a better recommendation, what do you recommend I use?
[videoblogging] Re: Anyone try the Elgato Turbo 264?
Test Machine 2: MacBook Intel Core Duo (not later core 2 duo) 1.83Ghz, Tiger, 2GB RAM Source file: DV PAL clip, 720x576, 25fps. 23 seconds long, interlaced. File loaded into quicktime 7.1.6 Exported to the following formats. First time is without elgato hardware, 2nd time is with the Turbo 264: Apple TV preset: 2 mins 08 sec, 0 mins 43sec Ipod 640x480 preset: 1 mins 02 sec, 0 mins 31 sec Ipod 320x240*: 0 mins 40 sec, 0 mins 17 sec * Apple dont offer a default 320sx240 ipod preset anymore, wheras elgato turbo 264 offers it as an option for the ipod preset. So for the non-hardware encoding time, I used manual settings, h264 baseline single pass. The time for non-hardware assisted multipass 320x240 on this macbook was 1 min 15 seconds. As expected, the difference the Turbo 264 makes on this machine is less, as the machine has a much better CPU than the G5 iMac, so the non-hardware assisted encodes are much quicker. Wheras the turbo 264 encodes are roughly the same speed as when done on the G5, sometimes a bit faster, sometimes a bit slower (perhaps due to slower hard drive in this laptop than the iMac?). Filesizes and deinterlacing are, as expected, the same as with the iMac tests. Have done some brief tests on what difference this stuff can make to people's energy use. Two factors make this an electricity-saving device. Firstly encodes are much quicker, so you can maybe have your machine switched on for less time. Secondly the CPU in your mac does much less when letting the turbo 264 do the encoding. For example this macbook, with battery already charged, and screen brightness turned off (I use an external monitor), uses around 20 watts when the CPU isnt doing much. When using the turbo 264 this rises to around the 27-30 watt level. When encoding using quicktime no turbo 264, th CPU is under heavy load and around 43 watts are being consumed, plus it quickly starts to sound like a small hairdryer. I shall get round to 'writing this up' in video form and sticking it on carbondown at some point this month. Other things to think about when considering whether to get a Turbo 264 and reviewing my results: My tests were done with quicktime, its likely if you use a different software encoder at the moment, it may already be quicker than the non-turbo264 times Ive posted. If you like precise bitrate control ( thus control over filesizes), so far the Turbo 264 gives you no control of these things, so its just as bad as Apples presets in that respect. Although I havent done quality tests yet, some multipass software encoders could be expected to give better results. Probably more true at higher resolutions, will test. Likewise if you already make 640x480 videos and use a very good deinterlacer, you may be best to keep using your current deinterlacer before encoding with the turbo. But if you struggle with this deinterlacing stuff, the turbo264 provides an extremely easy way to fix this stuff in an ok way without even thinking about it. Cheers Steve Elbows
[videoblogging] Rocketboom Sponsorship
Today we launched a new sponsorship model with YouTube as our first day's sponsor: http://www.rocketboom.com/sponsorship So far, we have received pretty good feedback, any crits? Sent via CrackBerry
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
This situation means that even if buying quicktime pro, the process will be more of a pain than your current export from video editing app. Because now you will have to save your video timeline to an intermediate format, which will then be loaded into quicktime pro (or alternative) to be encoded. To get decent quality, your intermediate format needs to be high quality and bitrate, perhaps native DV format if thats what your source camera is, and so long as your video editing app doesnt take too long to export it. Its a time/filespace/quality balance as to what you use, something people dont need to worry about if the right export options are available straight from their video editing app. Also bear in mind quicktime is not the only h264 encoder available for Windows or mac, here is my assessment of pro's and cons of Quicktime versus other options: pro's: Its farily cheap Lots of people know how to use it advise if you have problems As Apple make quicktime and the ipod apple tv, we should be confident that its output will be compatible Its pretty easy to use con's: Its not free (some alternatives are free but can be harder to use) Its not the fastest If you want to make 640x480 files and your video to be encoded is interlaced, quicktime doesnt do deinterlacing and so makes a pigs ear of the results Lack of manual control over bitrate ( thus filesize) if using apple ipod tv presets I still havent found the perfect alternative h264 encoder that is free or dirt cheap for Windows, is easy to use, and accepts most formats of video, and handles de-interlacing, although Im sure such an app exists or could be made out of existing free hard to use stuff. The only alternative commercial Windows h264 encoder I hav experience with is Nero Recode 2. It may represent good value if all the other apps it comes packaged with (cd writing etc), are of use. It is faster than qucktime encoding for sure. I am not sure how up-to-date its device profiles (ipod etc) are, but it does offer a lot of encoding options, which is a good and bad thing. I cant remember wheher its intelligent when it comes to deinterlacing or not, I will use it again soon to refresh my knowledge. http://www.nero.com/nero7/enu/Nero_Recode_2.html Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course that would be the answer, Jobs and Gates never heard the song Ebony and Ivory I am guessing ;-) you know the whole part about living together in perfect harmonyok, maybe I am the only one who thought that was funny Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@ wrote: From what I recall ... it's not vegas' fault but Quicktime's. There is something about the Windows Quicktime API that is not exposed to windows applications (not even if you have QT Pro installed). I'm pretty sure its the AAC audio codec. Basically windows applications cant request the AAC codec be used via the QT API. You can use all sorts of other QT stuff ... but cant do ipod formatted video without QT Pro ... because on a windows box only QT pro is going to be able to access the parts of QT for Windows that allows for AAC audio compression. ... poorly described ... but the bottom line is that in windows you need QT Pro, and you have to actually use it (not some other app) to do the final compression. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quick question
On 6/4/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This situation means that even if buying quicktime pro, the process will be more of a pain than your current export from video editing app. That's been my experience yeah. I edit in Premier Elements and export the final product as an uncompressed AVI (usually not too painful my vlogs are all only 4-7minutes and I have a firewire drive set aside for video production). Then I load up the AVI in QT Pro and compress it down to a 3vix encoded MOV. (Then - cause I'm a geek - I add on some QT interactive stuff, but thats purely optional :P ) Then I upload it to blip! As Steve points out there are other apps out there that have some 'compress for ipod' features (and some may be free) ... but I've not tried them. Videora comes to mind. ?? I just up and got Quicktime Pro to do this last leg compression step, and so far I haven't regretted it. - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] Rocketboom Sponsorship
You are such a sell out! Welcome to the club. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -Original Message- From: andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 22:26:46 To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Rocketboom Sponsorship Today we launched a new sponsorship model with YouTube as our first day's sponsor: http://www.rocketbo http://www.rocketboom.com/sponsorship om.com/sponsorship So far, we have received pretty good feedback, any crits? Sent via CrackBerry Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Introduction and First questions
If on Vista - and you go with Vegas (full or other I imagine) make sure to update. Latest update fixes some compatibility issues when launching (still worked, just complained). I'll second the staying away from Pinnacle, and I've only used the older versions of Ulead which I really didn't care for. I use Vegas (although the full is pricey - erm, don't tell wife). It's easy for a beginner to lay things out, but has a lot of more advanced built in features. I also played with Premiere Elements and it did a good job as well. Jarod http://vlog.8bit-me.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a side note I would stay away from Pinnicle...when it works it's great...but it only seems to work about 5% of the time, it crashes a lot...at least it did for me and by looking at the forums and user feedback on cnet, amazon, etc, I was not alone... Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JM Campbell geek4x4@ wrote: Hello, I just joined this group, so be gentle with the broom handles. Anyways, my name is John Campbell. I do a podcast called Comics Radar, fairly obviously (I think) about Comic Books, and because comic books are such a visual medium, I've been interested in doing a video version of the podcast. Also I just love playing with tech toys, so that's why I'm here. And really, the biggest stumbling for me has been the software. the only camera I have right now is a Sony DSC-M2, which films in MPEG 4 format, so can anyone recommend what software I could use to edit and encode it. The other thing I really want to do is be able to do a voiceover while watching the video. I want to be able to show the comics pages and pan over them. while talking out the review of the book. The other thing I would like to do would be to put in the image, while I'm on camera like the news does. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations and/or reviews of what software would allow me to do all of these things. I think the Pinnacle 11 plus allows me to do all of this, but if any of you have experience or a better recommendation, what do you recommend I use?
[videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom Sponsorship
Looks good to me. If all sponsorship advertising was as unobtrusive as your new model appears to be, I would be an extremely happy man with less to rant about. So no, I cant find anything to criticise in the model. So long as its enough to actually get sponsors, it seems like a good balancing act, and a model for others to follow. Obviously there are the usual problems with how far down the tail sponsors will be prepared to tread, so who knows how many people could use this model to bring in some revenue, but in terms of unobtrusiveness I think its a winner. Its about the only form of advert I personally will tolerate as a viewer, I cant be the only one, so savvy vlogs, sponsors services/sites would do well to stick to this sort of post-roll stuff. Mind you I suppose the subtle wrecksalvage stuff was at the start and that didnt bother me either. So maybe its the audio thang that is of key importance, keep the sound unobtrusive and you wont try the viewers patience so much is the lesson here? Compare and contrast with the hideous walmart advert pre-rolls I get when going to watch vids on the likes of CBS news. Or even with your own coverage of your sponsorship stuff on todays rocketboom. It only annoys me when I can hear it! Hoorah, why didnt I realise this sooner, Im sure Ive muted TV adverts in the past and it works wonders. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today we launched a new sponsorship model with YouTube as our first day's sponsor: http://www.rocketboom.com/sponsorship So far, we have received pretty good feedback, any crits? Sent via CrackBerry
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
Aha you are using 3ivx, which is the older type mpeg4, rather than h264, but is superior in speed and quality to apples mpeg4. Certainly when it comes to mpeg4 rather than h264, theres a lot more choice of encoders editing apps that may have built in export. 3ivx on Windows may not even need quicktime pro to work, I cant remember. Its a real shame that something went odd at 3ivx and they havent released any updates or new versions for what seems to be years now. So for those still wishing to use their stuff, and create ipod apple-tv compatible mpeg4 instead of h264, its harder to recommend 3ivx than it used to be. They have also annoyed some of their users/customers by repeatedly stating release dates for the next version of 3ivx, and then failing to release at all for ages afterwards. This year, they announced 3ivx 5 in January, but it didnt materialise. Then it was about to be released in February, with the assurance that just some minor thing was preventing release. Now it June and it might come out on Tuesday apparently, but based on past history it will be a minor miracle if this happens. At this rate mpeg4 will be obsolete, totally replaced by h264, by the time they update! Bugs that have existed in Mac version since Tiger came out, are in danger of being joined by new problems when Leopard arrives! Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I load up the AVI in QT Pro and compress it down to a 3vix encoded MOV. I just up and got Quicktime Pro to do this last leg compression step, and so far I haven't regretted it. - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
[videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom Sponsorship
I dig it. Would like to hear more about your YouTube experiences, as far as how the community recieves the show, the comments and such and if you're dedicating time to interacting with them specifically (much like you do on rocketboom.com) _the other drew http://www.scriggity.com http://www.pluggd.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today we launched a new sponsorship model with YouTube as our first day's sponsor: http://www.rocketboom.com/sponsorship So far, we have received pretty good feedback, any crits? Sent via CrackBerry
[videoblogging] What is a chunk?
Recently, we've made a few postings on our blog at Pluggd regarding our chunking approach. The first one went over really well, we got some emails and questions from people who wanted to learn more. http://blog.pluggd.com/2007/05/17/google-combining-video-with-search-results-halfway-there/ So we wrote another one recently, check it out: http://blog.pluggd.com/2007/05/30/more-about-chunks-the-parts-you-want/ Let us know what you think! _drew olanoff http://www.pluggd.com http://blog.pluggd.com http://b.drewolanoff.com
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
Heath, try this: http://www.ipod-video-converter.org/ Free iPod Video Converter. It exports WMV, MPEG and AVI files into iPod-compatible format, at least in theory. I installed it on my Windows machine and used it to convert a WMV, but I did not try putting the resulting file on my iPod. But I posted the file here if someone wants to try it out and let us know whether it played on an iPod: http://vlogademianervosa.blogspot.com/2007/05/free-video-converter.html I guess I don't need to know badly enough - I posted it for my students to experiment with. If anyone tests the file, please let us know. Cheryl --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quick question
On 6/4/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So for those still wishing to use their stuff, and create ipod apple-tv compatible mpeg4 instead of h264, its harder to recommend 3ivx than it used to be. Well the issue isn't the video codec its the audio. I could select h264 if I wanted to but I still wouldnt be able to select AAC audio from the QT export options in any windows app other than QT Pro. As I understand it, the issue isn't windows or windows apps, or 3vix ... its that apple for some reason doesnt expose all the export options in the windows api (thus QT Pro is the only windows app that can use QT Export with AAC Audio). -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
[videoblogging] VloggerCon 2006 T-Shirts Put To Good Use in Cambodia ..
Hey folks, The t-shirts arrived in Cambodia and we gave them to the Sharing Foundation sponsored college students. The shirts were a huge hit. Thank you Jay! Here's the photo http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2007/06/vloggercon_2006.html now, all I have to do is figure out how to get some cameras, skills transfer and get a sustainable video blog about life in Cambodia. Stay tuned .. Beth Kanter Beth's Blog
[videoblogging] Pixelodeon volunteers?
Hey guys, Pixelodeon is only a few days away! We're looking for a few more volunteers to help out during the event on Saturday and Sunday. We have put together an awesome crew so far. Join us!! If you have any questions or you want to help, just shoot me an email and let me know when you are available on Saturday and Sunday. You can also contact the organizers on the Pixelodeon website: http://pixelodeonfest.com Thx! Rick
[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging Flashmeetings
can someone else do them. i really like them http://one.revver.com/watch/290500 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bummer i relly like them On 6/4/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to stop for the time being booking flashmeetings. If someone else who has a booking account wants to continue, feel free. Thanks, Enric [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] keep on blipping
http://newteevee.com/2007/06/04/indie-supporter-blip-raises-funding/ congrats. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quick question
If you use quicktime and select : export for ipod, it is so simple ! then you just have to use itunes to get it on your ipod (i got tens this way) Le 4 juin 07 à 20:02, Steve Watkins a écrit : OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC-LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com Gabriel Soucheyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Département Métiers du livre et éditions numériques Université Blaise Pascal 34, av Carnot BP 185 63006 Clermont-Ferrand cedex -- VIDEOFORMES vidéo et nouveaux médias dans l'art contemporain www.videoformes.com BP 50 -64, rue Lamartine 63002 CLERMONT-FERRAND Cedex 1 / France T + 33 (0) 473 17 02 17 Direction : Gabriel SOUCHEYRE + 33 (0) 612 59 27 53 Skype : callto:gabrielsoucheyre SVP / P lease : n'imprimer que si nécessaire / print only if necessary [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
