[videoblogging] From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
I'm a long-time Apple user. I started with them on a II+ with incursions into DOS and Windows, but for almost 10 years now I have been using Apple and editing on FCP. I have been a satisfied Mac user until a couple of years ago when I had various issues with upgrade policies and software glitches caused by upgrades of various Apple programs. I won't go into my list of issues, but in sum I have been less than satisfied with Apple in both depth and candor. I need a new laptop. My 17 PB G4 needs to be upgraded and replaced. I just priced a new MacBook Pro 17 and it really comes out to about $4,000 with AppleCare, some software I'll need, etc,. I took a look at one yesterday and was impressed. With everything but the price. Up until I no longer trusted Apple, I would have gone for it even at that price. I'm thinking of moving to a PC and using XP Pro and possibly Vegas or even Premiere for all my web editing and production. (Pretty much straight cutting, no FX.) How bad can a PC be? There are a lot of people using them. And there is a broader source of support. But I live in the country, about a 2 hour drive or train from NYC, so it is a pain for me to browse around different computer stores to get a hands on feel for screen quality and software options. I'm wondering if I can get any experience of this group... I've never used Vegas or Avid Express and I'm wondering about the difference between that option and Final Cut Express -- I do not need or intend to shell out for Final Cut Pro. Just exploring the options. I'm finding Apple and its store staff arrogant and obnoxious. Is it something I just have to live with? Or do some of the other companies that actually have to compete with each other provide better products and service? Frustrated in the stix... Stan Hirson http://hestakaup.com
[videoblogging] IndieLab.org Looking for BETA testers
Hi folks, IndieLab has opened for BETA testing. You can jump right to it, http://indielab.org , or read below for a further explanation of what it is and what we hope to accomplish. IndieLab.org is designed to provide FREE blogs for media creators of all kinds, including video creators. While reading this list for the past four years it became clear to me that there are some potential video bloggers who are either scared, don't have the technical skills, or who just don't have the time to spend on buying a domain, installing WP and plugins, and generally hacking their installs to achieve what they want...but they still have the desire to create a blog, create video, and post it. Our goal was to make this process as simple as possible, hence, http://indielab.org was born. Please know that there are MANY things still on the to-do list for this site. The most important now being the creation of tutorial videos on everything from basic posting to how to use the specific tools we've installed. Not everything is clear for new users now, but our plan is to provide an overkill of support related materials. Your feedback is most welcome, either here, or through the contact page on the site. Adam W. Warner http://indielab.org http://wordpressmodder.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
I love PCs and I would never give up my Windows Media Center for a Mac but in your case I would still maybe recommend Mac. When comparing hardware, Macs actually do come out cheaper. If price is a big issue, you can find a much cheaper PC notebook and you will probably be quite satisfied with it. XP is a great OS. (and Vista isn't bad, it's just not what it should have been. don't buy into apple's FUD) Just know that you'll be dealing with a slower system if you go the PC route. In the case of Macs, you do get what you pay for. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a long-time Apple user. I started with them on a II+ with incursions into DOS and Windows, but for almost 10 years now I have been using Apple and editing on FCP. I have been a satisfied Mac user until a couple of years ago when I had various issues with upgrade policies and software glitches caused by upgrades of various Apple programs. I won't go into my list of issues, but in sum I have been less than satisfied with Apple in both depth and candor. I need a new laptop. My 17 PB G4 needs to be upgraded and replaced. I just priced a new MacBook Pro 17 and it really comes out to about $4,000 with AppleCare, some software I'll need, etc,. I took a look at one yesterday and was impressed. With everything but the price. Up until I no longer trusted Apple, I would have gone for it even at that price. I'm thinking of moving to a PC and using XP Pro and possibly Vegas or even Premiere for all my web editing and production. (Pretty much straight cutting, no FX.) How bad can a PC be? There are a lot of people using them. And there is a broader source of support. But I live in the country, about a 2 hour drive or train from NYC, so it is a pain for me to browse around different computer stores to get a hands on feel for screen quality and software options. I'm wondering if I can get any experience of this group... I've never used Vegas or Avid Express and I'm wondering about the difference between that option and Final Cut Express -- I do not need or intend to shell out for Final Cut Pro. Just exploring the options. I'm finding Apple and its store staff arrogant and obnoxious. Is it something I just have to live with? Or do some of the other companies that actually have to compete with each other provide better products and service? Frustrated in the stix... Stan Hirson http://hestakaup.com
[videoblogging] Re: From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
I'm a long time PC user, one of the few it seems on this list somedays ;) Anyway, I can't compare apples to apples, but I will say that XP is a pretty good operating system, IMO and I have been using Vegas for my editing needs since I have started vlogging. Sony Vegas is the bomb for PC's, again IMO. One thing I really like about Vegas is that it will run really well on a mid range PC, it's stable and I think pretty easy to use. If you do decide to switch and do get Vegas and have any questions, just let me know, I'm more than happy to help out any way I can. Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a long-time Apple user. I started with them on a II+ with incursions into DOS and Windows, but for almost 10 years now I have been using Apple and editing on FCP. I have been a satisfied Mac user until a couple of years ago when I had various issues with upgrade policies and software glitches caused by upgrades of various Apple programs. I won't go into my list of issues, but in sum I have been less than satisfied with Apple in both depth and candor. I need a new laptop. My 17 PB G4 needs to be upgraded and replaced. I just priced a new MacBook Pro 17 and it really comes out to about $4,000 with AppleCare, some software I'll need, etc,. I took a look at one yesterday and was impressed. With everything but the price. Up until I no longer trusted Apple, I would have gone for it even at that price. I'm thinking of moving to a PC and using XP Pro and possibly Vegas or even Premiere for all my web editing and production. (Pretty much straight cutting, no FX.) How bad can a PC be? There are a lot of people using them. And there is a broader source of support. But I live in the country, about a 2 hour drive or train from NYC, so it is a pain for me to browse around different computer stores to get a hands on feel for screen quality and software options. I'm wondering if I can get any experience of this group... I've never used Vegas or Avid Express and I'm wondering about the difference between that option and Final Cut Express -- I do not need or intend to shell out for Final Cut Pro. Just exploring the options. I'm finding Apple and its store staff arrogant and obnoxious. Is it something I just have to live with? Or do some of the other companies that actually have to compete with each other provide better products and service? Frustrated in the stix... Stan Hirson http://hestakaup.com
Re: [videoblogging] From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
- Original Message - From: Stan Hirson, I'm a long-time Apple user. I started with them on a II+ with incursions into DOS and Windows, (snip) I bought my Apple II (NOT a II+) new in 1979 .. kept it for 10 years before I upgraded to an Amigia 500. Never had a Mac. Run PC's now with Sony Vegas (Movie Studio Platinum) Richard Amirault Boston, MA, USA http://n1jdu.org http://bostonfandom.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ
Re: [videoblogging] Re: From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
Two months ago I made the jump and switched FROM PC TO Mac... and I will never look back. My biggest cause for stress was that I have some custom built software that will only run on Windows XP, but using VMware Fusion I can toggle back and forth between Mac OS X and XP. No having to close down OS X and reboot in Windows. My productivity has been boosted as a result because using Windows became a major headache, due to the whole OS just slowing down to a snail crawl when rendering videos. And I had uber-memory installed. Not so with my Mac Pro! Regarding using the XP os, it doesn't even come close to Mac OS X, and software is generally much cheaper for Mac than Windows. Just my 2 pennies worth. Robin
[videoblogging] Re: From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
Software is cheaper on the Mac?!can't say I have looked at every piece of software, but show me a sub 100 video editing program just for the Mac. I know imovie, but I am talking about the next step up. There isn't any...at least not yet. Now there are options like running bootcamp, etc...but as far as straight Mac software apps for video, nada... Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robin Harford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two months ago I made the jump and switched FROM PC TO Mac... and I will never look back. My biggest cause for stress was that I have some custom built software that will only run on Windows XP, but using VMware Fusion I can toggle back and forth between Mac OS X and XP. No having to close down OS X and reboot in Windows. My productivity has been boosted as a result because using Windows became a major headache, due to the whole OS just slowing down to a snail crawl when rendering videos. And I had uber-memory installed. Not so with my Mac Pro! Regarding using the XP os, it doesn't even come close to Mac OS X, and software is generally much cheaper for Mac than Windows. Just my 2 pennies worth. Robin
Re: [videoblogging] Re: From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
Software is cheaper on the Mac?!can't say I have looked at every piece of software, but show me a sub 100 video editing program just for the Mac. I know imovie, but I am talking about the next step up. There isn't any...at least not yet. Now there are options like running bootcamp, etc...but as far as straight Mac software apps for video, nada... Actually I was referring to making screencasts and rendering them out to different formats. Cheap as chips compared to Windows versions. Using VMware Fusion means you have the best of both worlds. But for pure power I'm glad I jumped ship to a Mac. Robin
Re: [videoblogging] Re: From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
When I first read the subject, I thought this was a prank. Seriously. I would never go back to a PC. The operating system is a dinosaur, they get worse with each upgrade not better. We have both in our office and the PC has well-earned the reverse nick-name Piece of Crap. Your G4 does not begin to show you what is possible now on a Mac. To go to the full size 17-inch and get the newest versions of software will IMO rock your world. I would do some serious thinking on this before buying a PC. Good luck with it. I seriously do admire people who can really open up their minds to evaluate something against the trend or their own experience! Aloha, Rox On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Robin Harford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Software is cheaper on the Mac?!can't say I have looked at every piece of software, but show me a sub 100 video editing program just for the Mac. I know imovie, but I am talking about the next step up. There isn't any...at least not yet. Now there are options like running bootcamp, etc...but as far as straight Mac software apps for video, nada... Actually I was referring to making screencasts and rendering them out to different formats. Cheap as chips compared to Windows versions. Using VMware Fusion means you have the best of both worlds. But for pure power I'm glad I jumped ship to a Mac. Robin -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
Nothing like a platform question to shake things up eh? ;) I'm a multi-platformer - and until recently, have always had the PC as my primary editing monster using Vegas. I don't think you will have any problem at all converting from the FCP family to Vegas - it just takes a little adjustment. I'm going through the same just trying to find out where stuff is on FCPe. Major advantage of Windows PC = hardware cheap and easy to upgrade and replace (me = hardware nerd) Major advantage of Mac based = stuff just plain works without downloading x, patching y, and rebooting three times. Wouldn't go Vista though... eventually 'made' me move the Franken-puter aside for an iMac on my main desk. my $.02 Jarod --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first read the subject, I thought this was a prank. Seriously. I would never go back to a PC. The operating system is a dinosaur, they get worse with each upgrade not better. We have both in our office and the PC has well-earned the reverse nick-name Piece of Crap. Your G4 does not begin to show you what is possible now on a Mac. To go to the full size 17-inch and get the newest versions of software will IMO rock your world. I would do some serious thinking on this before buying a PC. Good luck with it. I seriously do admire people who can really open up their minds to evaluate something against the trend or their own experience! Aloha, Rox On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Robin Harford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Software is cheaper on the Mac?!can't say I have looked at every piece of software, but show me a sub 100 video editing program just for the Mac. I know imovie, but I am talking about the next step up. There isn't any...at least not yet. Now there are options like running bootcamp, etc...but as far as straight Mac software apps for video, nada... Actually I was referring to making screencasts and rendering them out to different formats. Cheap as chips compared to Windows versions. Using VMware Fusion means you have the best of both worlds. But for pure power I'm glad I jumped ship to a Mac. Robin -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
How about sub $200? You can get Final Cut Express for $155 right now, and it's pretty similar to Final Cut Pro, and can use almost all of the plugins/filters that FCP can. I spent last week evaluating about 30 free filters, so I've got a editing suite way more powerful than iMovie and way cheaper than Final Cut Pro... all for less than $200. Pete Heath wrote: Software is cheaper on the Mac?!can't say I have looked at every piece of software, but show me a sub 100 video editing program just for the Mac. I know imovie, but I am talking about the next step up. There isn't any...at least not yet. Now there are options like running bootcamp, etc...but as far as straight Mac software apps for video, nada... Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robin Harford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two months ago I made the jump and switched FROM PC TO Mac... and I will never look back. My biggest cause for stress was that I have some custom built software that will only run on Windows XP, but using VMware Fusion I can toggle back and forth between Mac OS X and XP. No having to close down OS X and reboot in Windows. My productivity has been boosted as a result because using Windows became a major headache, due to the whole OS just slowing down to a snail crawl when rendering videos. And I had uber-memory installed. Not so with my Mac Pro! Regarding using the XP os, it doesn't even come close to Mac OS X, and software is generally much cheaper for Mac than Windows. Just my 2 pennies worth. Robin Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Grad Student Research - Profile of a Video Blogger
joshua.kuss wrote: Questions: 1. How did you get into vlogging? I was involved in the beginning of podcasting, and knew at the time that video would be the next big thing. I started experimenting with video online, and eventually found the vloggers, probably via way of (audio) podcasting. 2. How long have you been blogging? August of 1997. After Dave Winer, I probably have one of the longest running, continually updated blogs. (Not 'journal' or 'diary' but actual blog, before that word really existed.) 3. What provides inspiration for your vlog posts? I like to experiment with video. 4. How often do you post? Not very often nowadays, though in 2005/2006 I tried to post every week or so. 5. Is your video blog a business or a hobby? I will go with hobby on that one. 6. What motivates you to continue updating your video blog? I like to experiment with video. 7. How long does it take you to post (from the idea-filming-posting)? Too long... I used to do it all super-fast, but now I want a more polished finished product. Yesterday it took me about 3 hours in total. 8. If you have a site you would like to share (personal or just one you like) please list here: blog: http://rasterweb.net/raster/ vlog: http://tinkernet.org/ Thanks in advance! If you want to shoot me an email instead of posting a response, that's cool, too. Thanks for asking! :) Pete Cheers, Josh
[videoblogging] Pimp my FCE
In a previous thread, Pete Prodoehl mentioned some free filters for Final Cut Express. I'm curious how everyone pimps out their FCE (or FCPro). I've been using the plain vanilla FCE install, but I'd love to start experimenting. What filters/plugins do you use? Brendon Connelly http://brendonconnelly.com http://yamhill.tv http://bikehacks.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re:From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
As someone who has analyzed the AppleCare policy, it isn't worth it. Most failures occur within the first year and Apple covers out to one year automatically. Secondly don't let Apple install options like bigger HD's and RAM, you can do all that yourself less expensively. And were you to do that anyhow you'd void your AppleCare contract. I currently have an laptop with XP Pro and am seriously considering a MacBook.
Re: [videoblogging] Re:From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
I have to totally disagree with Tony about applecare, especially if you have a laptop. I have had the logic board replaced, the screen replaced, the casing replaced and two batteries replaced (pretty evenly spread between my two years of ownership) and have paid 0 dollars. I have a first generation macbook pro 17 - so its been a little over buggy, but even so, applecare has been more than worth it to me with every laptop I've owned. On Jun 9, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Tony Pelliccio wrote: As someone who has analyzed the AppleCare policy, it isn't worth it. Most failures occur within the first year and Apple covers out to one year automatically. Secondly don't let Apple install options like bigger HD's and RAM, you can do all that yourself less expensively. And were you to do that anyhow you'd void your AppleCare contract. I currently have an laptop with XP Pro and am seriously considering a MacBook. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
Well since Macs switched to Intel processors its much easier to make a like-for-like comparison of prices. Most Apple hardware has quite a price premium every time Ive done the maths. Granted I havent looked at US $ prices but you should be able to get a 17 PC laptop with same CPU, RAM probably a larger harddrive for noticably less money. The non-pro macbooks and the high end 8-core mac pro are better hardware value compared to equivalent PCs, than the Macbook Pro's are, but maybe my analysis of this is wrong. I switched to Mac 3 years ago. I have enjoyed the switch, and the flexibility of being able to run Windows XP and Vista on the machine as well as OS X. Hardware wise, I liek Apples style, the fact there are no fans/vents on the bottom of the laptop, and how quiet it is under low CPU load. I am a bit skeptical about the longeivity of their hardware though, never had a problem myself but anecdotal net reports suggest a lot of people have problems after too few years have passed since purchase. Windows is probably more likely to fail need reinstalling than OS X is. PC video editing apps used to be riddled with issues but as they have matured over the years this is probably not much of an issue anymore. Apple have certainly made more cockups with software updates, and more stupid bugs in video software components (eg quicktime), than I was expecting based on what Id heard before I became a mac user. But Ive personally been lucky and never had many problems. If people already know like a certain application on Windows or Mac, I usually recommend they stick with their current platform, as time is money. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love PCs and I would never give up my Windows Media Center for a Mac but in your case I would still maybe recommend Mac. When comparing hardware, Macs actually do come out cheaper. If price is a big issue, you can find a much cheaper PC notebook and you will probably be quite satisfied with it. XP is a great OS. (and Vista isn't bad, it's just not what it should have been. don't buy into apple's FUD) Just know that you'll be dealing with a slower system if you go the PC route. In the case of Macs, you do get what you pay for. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a long-time Apple user. I started with them on a II+ with incursions into DOS and Windows, but for almost 10 years now I have been using Apple and editing on FCP. I have been a satisfied Mac user until a couple of years ago when I had various issues with upgrade policies and software glitches caused by upgrades of various Apple programs. I won't go into my list of issues, but in sum I have been less than satisfied with Apple in both depth and candor. I need a new laptop. My 17 PB G4 needs to be upgraded and replaced. I just priced a new MacBook Pro 17 and it really comes out to about $4,000 with AppleCare, some software I'll need, etc,. I took a look at one yesterday and was impressed. With everything but the price. Up until I no longer trusted Apple, I would have gone for it even at that price. I'm thinking of moving to a PC and using XP Pro and possibly Vegas or even Premiere for all my web editing and production. (Pretty much straight cutting, no FX.) How bad can a PC be? There are a lot of people using them. And there is a broader source of support. But I live in the country, about a 2 hour drive or train from NYC, so it is a pain for me to browse around different computer stores to get a hands on feel for screen quality and software options. I'm wondering if I can get any experience of this group... I've never used Vegas or Avid Express and I'm wondering about the difference between that option and Final Cut Express -- I do not need or intend to shell out for Final Cut Pro. Just exploring the options. I'm finding Apple and its store staff arrogant and obnoxious. Is it something I just have to live with? Or do some of the other companies that actually have to compete with each other provide better products and service? Frustrated in the stix... Stan Hirson http://hestakaup.com
[videoblogging] Re: From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
Argh sorry about the linebreaks. I havent posted here for a while and forgot to use different browser. I would count this as an example of a stupid Apple bug in Safari, except it could be Yahoo's fault. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well since Macs switched to Intel processors its much easier to make a like-for-like comparison of prices. Most Apple hardware has quite a price premium every time Ive done the maths. Granted I havent looked at US $ prices but you should be able to get a 17 PC laptop with same CPU, RAM probably a larger harddrive for noticably less money. The non-pro macbooks and the high end 8-core mac pro are better hardware value compared to equivalent PCs, than the Macbook Pro's are, but maybe my analysis of this is wrong. I switched to Mac 3 years ago. I have enjoyed the switch, and the flexibility of being able to run Windows XP and Vista on the machine as well as OS X. Hardware wise, I liek Apples style, the fact there are no fans/vents on the bottom of the laptop, and how quiet it is under low CPU load. I am a bit skeptical about the longeivity of their hardware though, never had a problem myself but anecdotal net reports suggest a lot of people have problems after too few years have passed since purchase. Windows is probably more likely to fail need reinstalling than OS X is. PC video editing apps used to be riddled with issues but as they have matured over the years this is probably not much of an issue anymore. Apple have certainly made more cockups with software updates, and more stupid bugs in video software components (eg quicktime), than I was expecting based on what Id heard before I became a mac user. But Ive personally been lucky and never had many problems. If people already know like a certain application on Windows or Mac, I usually recommend they stick with their current platform, as time is money. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp pdelongchamp@ wrote: I love PCs and I would never give up my Windows Media Center for a Mac but in your case I would still maybe recommend Mac. When comparing hardware, Macs actually do come out cheaper. If price is a big issue, you can find a much cheaper PC notebook and you will probably be quite satisfied with it. XP is a great OS. (and Vista isn't bad, it's just not what it should have been. don't buy into apple's FUD) Just know that you'll be dealing with a slower system if you go the PC route. In the case of Macs, you do get what you pay for. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones shirson@ wrote: I'm a long-time Apple user. I started with them on a II+ with incursions into DOS and Windows, but for almost 10 years now I have been using Apple and editing on FCP. I have been a satisfied Mac user until a couple of years ago when I had various issues with upgrade policies and software glitches caused by upgrades of various Apple programs. I won't go into my list of issues, but in sum I have been less than satisfied with Apple in both depth and candor. I need a new laptop. My 17 PB G4 needs to be upgraded and replaced. I just priced a new MacBook Pro 17 and it really comes out to about $4,000 with AppleCare, some software I'll need, etc,. I took a look at one yesterday and was impressed. With everything but the price. Up until I no longer trusted Apple, I would have gone for it even at that price. I'm thinking of moving to a PC and using XP Pro and possibly Vegas or even Premiere for all my web editing and production. (Pretty much straight cutting, no FX.) How bad can a PC be? There are a lot of people using them. And there is a broader source of support. But I live in the country, about a 2 hour drive or train from NYC, so it is a pain for me to browse around different computer stores to get a hands on feel for screen quality and software options. I'm wondering if I can get any experience of this group... I've never used Vegas or Avid Express and I'm wondering about the difference between that option and Final Cut Express -- I do not need or intend to shell out for Final Cut Pro. Just exploring the options. I'm finding Apple and its store staff arrogant and obnoxious. Is it something I just have to live with? Or do some of the other companies that actually have to compete with each other provide better products and service? Frustrated in the stix... Stan Hirson http://hestakaup.com
[videoblogging] Re: List of social media sites
Hi Leesa and thank you. I did send an email to the paypal account associated with the material. Someone here asked if they had updated the material or added Alexa rankings and I went back and see that they did not update the sites that I can tell, but they did add the Alexa ratings. I'm sure that took time to do. I got some of the sites from Joe Whyte at Hybrid SEM, and I credited him and sent him the new list so that he could benefit as well. I'm all for sharing. I just don't think I should have been charged $10 for the list. lol Joe said he would categorize the list. I sent him an email asking where he is with that. Hopefully he'll have it done relatively soon. Sheila --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, leesarbarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Sheila, I'm not shocked that this has happened. I had someone 3 years ago grab content from my blog and post it to her own as if she was the original author, however, I'm shocked that you wouldn't demand that the person selling it at least give you credit. Or, maybe you have and you just didn't share that here. But to not care that someone is making money off your hard work is surprising to me. I'm even angry for you. Oh, and thanks for sharing your resource. I would suggest that you also group the social media resource under broad categories as well. For example, youtube, revver, blip, etc. should be under a category called Video Sharing or something like that. Then, monetize your list ;) Thanks, Leesa Barnes Author, Podcasting for Profit http://www.leesabarnes.com
[videoblogging] Re: Is Veoh going belly up or just going through a growth spurt?
I've left messages at the Veoh Networks corporate site, I've sent various email. I've still heard nothing. I just called them today though, so hopefully I will hear back this week. I'm a little concerned that copyright infringement lawsuits are going to harm Veoh. It's not like they're the only ones getting sued, but it seems like a significant suit. I'm not someone who is great with legal-eze but maybe someone here can take a look at this and know what's going on- http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/california/casdce/3:2007cv01568/253104/ It says that the docket report was last checked in Feb. 2008. Personally, if it were my business, the minute things started to appear bad, such as law suits and losing a lot of employees, I would beef up my customer service and make sure my core content providers, advertisers and partners were well taken care of. But, that's just me. Sheila They just raised another $30m - now valued at $125m - see http://news.google.com/news?q=veoh On the other hand investor Michael Eisner thinks the model sucks.. http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/eisner_to_veoh_but_when_do_i_get_paid_ He told Shapiro that the video aggregators, so adept at raising and spending money, are not handing enough back to the people who actually make the videos themselves. They're shooting themselves in the foot, he said. They are trying to elicit a fee to integrate on sites like Veoh but with a revenue split that makes it impossible for a content producer to get enough money to cover production. If I were running one of the distribution companies I would not look to make $2.50 but encourage the content creators to make it, he said. I'm not sure the distributors are thinking through where the content players have to come out -- instead of how to make a little money. --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com ---
[videoblogging] Re: Is Veoh going belly up or just going through a growth spurt?
Well that court case looks old, and it was dismissed last November. Although it may have been on a technicality and there is a new case elsewhere. But as they just announced $30 million in funding we can be pretty sure they arent going belly-up anytime soon, and that people have been prepared to risk that much money on Veoh despite whatever legal risks there are going forwards. So who knows, it could be an unpleasant mess behind the scenes, your experience may be typical or it may not, either way they have let you down and that sucks :( Medium-term I still would not be surprised if most of these comapnies are stuffed, and it is interesting to see whether customer support holds up now that the honeymoon hype period for online video has passed. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sheila English [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've left messages at the Veoh Networks corporate site, I've sent various email. I've still heard nothing. I just called them today though, so hopefully I will hear back this week. I'm a little concerned that copyright infringement lawsuits are going to harm Veoh. It's not like they're the only ones getting sued, but it seems like a significant suit. I'm not someone who is great with legal-eze but maybe someone here can take a look at this and know what's going on- http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/california/casdce/3:2007cv01568/253104/ It says that the docket report was last checked in Feb. 2008. Personally, if it were my business, the minute things started to appear bad, such as law suits and losing a lot of employees, I would beef up my customer service and make sure my core content providers, advertisers and partners were well taken care of. But, that's just me. Sheila They just raised another $30m - now valued at $125m - see http://news.google.com/news?q=veoh On the other hand investor Michael Eisner thinks the model sucks.. http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/eisner_to_veoh_but_when_do_i_get_paid_ He told Shapiro that the video aggregators, so adept at raising and spending money, are not handing enough back to the people who actually make the videos themselves. They're shooting themselves in the foot, he said. They are trying to elicit a fee to integrate on sites like Veoh but with a revenue split that makes it impossible for a content producer to get enough money to cover production. If I were running one of the distribution companies I would not look to make $2.50 but encourage the content creators to make it, he said. I'm not sure the distributors are thinking through where the content players have to come out -- instead of how to make a little money. --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com ---
[videoblogging] Sharing some good news
It's been a great week for my company and I wanted to share the good news! We were in The Wall Street Journal on Saturday and that has resulted in some great contacts! We also just found out that one of our original shows is under consideration for Transit TV (11 million views a week)while a different one is being considered by Lifetime TV online. Of course being under consideration doesn't always pan out, but it was really nice to hear people be enthusiastic about our shows! I'm finding more and more people interested in original shows, but I wonder if the actor's strike will create changes that harm online episodic content distribution? I don't expect to have to hire SAG actors to be in my shows, but adding new rules often results in mass confusion during the learning curve and that always gives me a headache. Thanks for letting me share! Have a great week! Sheila
Re: [videoblogging] Re:From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
Mac Mac-nerds have told me they follow this policy: Laptop work or home - Get AppleCare Desktop Mac at work - Get AppleCare Desktop Mac at home - Skip AppleCare if you want... But I did get AppleCare with the last iMac I got at home, mainly cuz I feel Apple's quality has sunk in the last few years, and my previous Mac had the log board die. (Granted, it was about 6 years old.) Pete Kathryn Jones wrote: I have to totally disagree with Tony about applecare, especially if you have a laptop. I have had the logic board replaced, the screen replaced, the casing replaced and two batteries replaced (pretty evenly spread between my two years of ownership) and have paid 0 dollars. I have a first generation macbook pro 17 - so its been a little over buggy, but even so, applecare has been more than worth it to me with every laptop I've owned. On Jun 9, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Tony Pelliccio wrote: As someone who has analyzed the AppleCare policy, it isn't worth it. Most failures occur within the first year and Apple covers out to one year automatically. Secondly don't let Apple install options like bigger HD's and RAM, you can do all that yourself less expensively. And were you to do that anyhow you'd void your AppleCare contract. I currently have an laptop with XP Pro and am seriously considering a MacBook. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Radio control delay timer Cams
If anyone's interested in Radio Control and Delay Timer camera customizations, I have posted pictures and specs of the different models I have constructed here http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com/2008/06/gopro-camera-customizations.ht ml or here if the link scrambles http://tinyurl.com/5lsveh Cheers Rambo Check out my Outrigging Blog ... Updated Daily http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1490 - Release Date: 8/06/2008 5:32 PM
[videoblogging] Canon HV-20 24p-60i issue
hey everyone, i recently bought a Canon HV-20 to complement my larger camera, the Canon XHA1. i usually shoot in 24P mode with the XHA1. i was under the impression that the HV-20 could shoot in 24P, but i now learn that it shoots in a 'sort-of 24P' mode that is then 'wrapped' in a 60i format. when you import the footage into FInal Cut, it is a 60i file. i shoot in progressive ( P format ) specifically for the web, and now it looks like i will have to de-interlace this HV-20 footage before uploading to Blip, etc. Does anyone have any experience with this or suggestions? i just learned that Canon's new camera , the HV-30 shoots in true 30P, so i may be selling this one and getting the new model , as i really want the progressive format. thx, eric. www.gree-house.tv Gardenfork and Real World Green
[videoblogging] Re: Is Veoh going belly up or just going through a growth spurt?
Great point about the investing. I'm sure people wouldn't invest that kind of money without a very thorough look at Veoh and everything going on with the company. It does feel to me that Veoh is struggling, but from growth or trouble I couldn't say. I hope some of that $30 million goes toward customer service! ...it is interesting to see whether customer support holds up now that the honeymoon hype period for online video has passed. Brilliantly said! The race to win the best content and biggest advertisers seems to be leveling off a bit and people are looking more at pointed issues such as monetization and target marketing. That's my own take though. Priorities seem to be shifting with video content sites. I hope there's thoughtfulness invested in those priorities outside of where to get the biggest bang for the buck. I know that's important, but there are other things equally as important. Cheers! Sheila --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well that court case looks old, and it was dismissed last November. Although it may have been on a technicality and there is a new case elsewhere. But as they just announced $30 million in funding we can be pretty sure they arent going belly-up anytime soon, and that people have been prepared to risk that much money on Veoh despite whatever legal risks there are going forwards. So who knows, it could be an unpleasant mess behind the scenes, your experience may be typical or it may not, either way they have let you down and that sucks :( Medium-term I still would not be surprised if most of these comapnies are stuffed, and it is interesting to see whether customer support holds up now that the honeymoon hype period for online video has passed. Cheers Steve Elbows
[videoblogging] Re: Is Veoh going belly up or just going through a growth spurt?
I suppose customer service may also take a nosedive even if the company isnt dying, but just decides to refocus, and clients that they previously coveted are no longer of interest. Again I am not suggesting this is the case with Veoh. But I was disgusted to hear they are blocking access to their videos in many countries now: http://newteevee.com/2008/06/01/veoh-blocks-some-international-access/ So they are willing to throw away up to 10% of their audience. Shame shame, booo! Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well that court case looks old, and it was dismissed last November. Although it may have been on a technicality and there is a new case elsewhere. But as they just announced $30 million in funding we can be pretty sure they arent going belly-up anytime soon, and that people have been prepared to risk that much money on Veoh despite whatever legal risks there are going forwards. So who knows, it could be an unpleasant mess behind the scenes, your experience may be typical or it may not, either way they have let you down and that sucks :( Medium-term I still would not be surprised if most of these comapnies are stuffed, and it is interesting to see whether customer support holds up now that the honeymoon hype period for online video has passed. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sheila English sheila_clover@ wrote: I've left messages at the Veoh Networks corporate site, I've sent various email. I've still heard nothing. I just called them today though, so hopefully I will hear back this week. I'm a little concerned that copyright infringement lawsuits are going to harm Veoh. It's not like they're the only ones getting sued, but it seems like a significant suit. I'm not someone who is great with legal-eze but maybe someone here can take a look at this and know what's going on- http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/california/casdce/3:2007cv01568/253104/ It says that the docket report was last checked in Feb. 2008. Personally, if it were my business, the minute things started to appear bad, such as law suits and losing a lot of employees, I would beef up my customer service and make sure my core content providers, advertisers and partners were well taken care of. But, that's just me. Sheila They just raised another $30m - now valued at $125m - see http://news.google.com/news?q=veoh On the other hand investor Michael Eisner thinks the model sucks.. http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/eisner_to_veoh_but_when_do_i_get_paid_ He told Shapiro that the video aggregators, so adept at raising and spending money, are not handing enough back to the people who actually make the videos themselves. They're shooting themselves in the foot, he said. They are trying to elicit a fee to integrate on sites like Veoh but with a revenue split that makes it impossible for a content producer to get enough money to cover production. If I were running one of the distribution companies I would not look to make $2.50 but encourage the content creators to make it, he said. I'm not sure the distributors are thinking through where the content players have to come out -- instead of how to make a little money. --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com ---
[videoblogging] Re: IndieLab.org Looking for BETA testers
I've seen that a few of you have signed up on our Beta site, thank you! Please feel free to provide any feedback, both on the general look of the site and also on the functionality. Sincerely, --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, IndieLab has opened for BETA testing. You can jump right to it, http://indielab.org , or read below for a further explanation of what it is and what we hope to accomplish. IndieLab.org is designed to provide FREE blogs for media creators of all kinds, including video creators. While reading this list for the past four years it became clear to me that there are some potential video bloggers who are either scared, don't have the technical skills, or who just don't have the time to spend on buying a domain, installing WP and plugins, and generally hacking their installs to achieve what they want...but they still have the desire to create a blog, create video, and post it. Our goal was to make this process as simple as possible, hence, http://indielab.org was born. Please know that there are MANY things still on the to-do list for this site. The most important now being the creation of tutorial videos on everything from basic posting to how to use the specific tools we've installed. Not everything is clear for new users now, but our plan is to provide an overkill of support related materials. Your feedback is most welcome, either here, or through the contact page on the site. Adam W. Warner http://indielab.org http://wordpressmodder.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Pimp my FCE
Pimp Final Cut Express (or Pro) with these plugins... I will warn you I have not had extensive time to play with all of these, but chances are you'll find a few that are useful. And yes, there are all free... CGM Aged Film LE http://www.cgm-online.com/eiperle/cgm_aged_film_le_e.html Towers of Film 3D http://www.chv-plugins.com/cms/FxPlug/TowersOfFilm3D/TowersOfFilm3D.php DH_Grid http://www.digital-heaven.co.uk/fcplugins/dh_grid.php DH_Guides http://www.digital-heaven.co.uk/fcplugins/dh_guides.php ShadowHighlight http://www.lyric.com/fcp-plugins/index.htm#shadow Nattress (a bunch of them) http://www.nattress.com/Free/freeFCP.htm Chromatic Glow http://www.riverrockstudios.com/riverrock/pages/chromatGlow.html Day For Night http://www.riverrockstudios.com/riverrock/pages/dayfornight.html Jitterbug http://www.riverrockstudios.com/riverrock/pages/jitterbug.html Too Much Too Soon (big collection of them) http://www.mattias.nu/plugins/ FxFactory http://www.noiseindustries.com/products/fxfactory/free/ (FX Factory is actually an architecture that allows you to install other plugings on top of it. When you install it, you can choose *not* to install any of the trial plugins, and then just add in the free ones later, there are a bunch listed on the FxFactory page.) Pete Bren wrote: In a previous thread, Pete Prodoehl mentioned some free filters for Final Cut Express. I'm curious how everyone pimps out their FCE (or FCPro). I've been using the plain vanilla FCE install, but I'd love to start experimenting. What filters/plugins do you use? Brendon Connelly http://brendonconnelly.com http://yamhill.tv http://bikehacks.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re:From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?
On Jun 9, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote: Mac Mac-nerds have told me they follow this policy: Laptop work or home - Get AppleCare I have the Powerbook G4 1.5Ghz, I got Good Guys extended warranty (2 yr). Good thing I did, the HD died at the end of 2 yrs. This laptop had the infamous missing memory slot that affected tens of thousands of users..there's a class-action lawsuit. Basically, the cool thin ness violates the Law of Physics (Thermodynamics): the heat kills the logicboard..which creates the missing memory slot bug. Apple refuses to acknowledge this problem. I ended up send it to a 3rd party to fix it (some place in S. Carolina). The corrupt GE care (which took over when Good Guys disappeared) wouldn't pick up the tab!!?? The thin Powerbooks look cool, but have major cooling issues. (it gets INCREDIBLY hot on your lab, it's a widely known issue). It's what leads to the failure rates. Heat is the Enemy. I goto the desert offroad races (hot!), this Powerbook has died TWICE because of heat: hard drive goes kaput. My PC laptop works fine, because it's FAT has a F***G fan!! Law of Thermodynamics..must dissipate the heat! Desktop Mac at work - Get AppleCare Desktop Mac at home - Skip AppleCare if you want... I have a quad G5 that's sitting 4 ft away (I'm using a G4/667 desktop that's circa 2001..7yrs old!!). On a hot day in 2006, it went kaput..heat issues. It took 3 visits to Applecare to fix it (fancy watercooled system). I was 4 days late in buying Applecare, so I don't have coverage. Frankly, I'm scared the quad G5 will blowup I will have an expensive paper weight. I use it ocassionally (to render videos), but it's definitely not my main machine. A bunch of other people have had problems with the quad G5, it's a known fact to stay away from this machine. But I did get AppleCare with the last iMac I got at home, mainly cuz I feel Apple's quality has sunk in the last few years, and my previous Mac had the log board die. (Granted, it was about 6 years old.) I agree. I have had issues with Apple hardware going back to '95. There was this Applevision 1710AV monitor, which was a total POS. It was widely known to be a defective product. When I called in, the Apple guy refused to acknowledge the problem (lie) wouldn't do anything about it. I have never bought an Apple monitor since. Apple has always had an elitist attitute (with price to match) The Apple AV cable for the iPod, a pricey $20..the connector cracked broke. (Apple found a cheap supplier, uses its brand name to jack up the price). I got a 3rd party one for $20 (at the local supermarket), works fine. Apple has a lot of hype/marketing behind it. I asked an Apple sales guy about the iPod, why it's so successful. His response was Marketing. People don't buy Good Products, they buy GOOD MARKETING -- business saying Apple vs PC, it's a matter of lesser of 2 evils. I have a Hewlett Packard PC laptop running Windows XP, NEVER had a problem with it. However, it's incredibly clunky vs Mac OS in terms of intuitive useability. Existing PC users use it because they are used to it. Pete Kathryn Jones wrote: I have to totally disagree with Tony about applecare, especially if you have a laptop. I have had the logic board replaced, the screen replaced, the casing replaced and two batteries replaced (pretty evenly spread between my two years of ownership) and have paid 0 dollars. I have a first generation macbook pro 17 - so its been a little over buggy, but even so, applecare has been more than worth it to me with every laptop I've owned. On Jun 9, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Tony Pelliccio wrote: As someone who has analyzed the AppleCare policy, it isn't worth it. Most failures occur within the first year and Apple covers out to one year automatically. Secondly don't let Apple install options like bigger HD's and RAM, you can do all that yourself less expensively. And were you to do that anyhow you'd void your AppleCare contract. I currently have an laptop with XP Pro and am seriously considering a MacBook. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Sharing some good news
Congratulations Sheila! You are as deserving of this as anyone I can think of. When you get a minute. send us your links. Aloha, Rox On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Sheila English [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a great week for my company and I wanted to share the good news! We were in The Wall Street Journal on Saturday and that has resulted in some great contacts! We also just found out that one of our original shows is under consideration for Transit TV (11 million views a week)while a different one is being considered by Lifetime TV online. Of course being under consideration doesn't always pan out, but it was really nice to hear people be enthusiastic about our shows! I'm finding more and more people interested in original shows, but I wonder if the actor's strike will create changes that harm online episodic content distribution? I don't expect to have to hire SAG actors to be in my shows, but adding new rules often results in mass confusion during the learning curve and that always gives me a headache. Thanks for letting me share! Have a great week! Sheila -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Is Veoh going belly up or just going through a growth spurt?
Sheila, I assume you received this email... but just in case you didnt... best.. and CONGRATS! Kathryn http://www.synchronis.tv Hi all: As you know, Emilia Mello is no longer with Veoh. We are excited to have you as publishers and are happy that you have chosen to publish you content on Veoh. I wanted to reach out to you all to say hi and also to set up some measures to make sure that you each of a means to communicate with Veoh in her absence. This is especially important since I will be out of the office all next week (so no emails please, Ill be busy vacationing J). For the immediate future we have set up to email addresses that are reserved specifically for our publishing partners to contact someone at Veoh. · For technical support related issues please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please include as much detail as possible about your issue. If you are having a problem with a specific video that you have published you must send us the url for the video so the tech support team can find it. · For requests concerning promotion please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] . In your email please include the url for the individual video you want promoted, a 1 sentence description of the video and any specific date information that is relevant regarding promotion (e.g. if you want to have it promoted on a specific date). A few notes. As I said, this email was set up only for trusted partners. Please do not share it with anyone. There are lots of you and we want to share the love fairly, so please be reasonable in the number of times you request promotion from us. Finally, we will read all of your promotional requests, but will likely not be able to respond to each person directly. Lastly, please be patient with us as we work through this transition period. Thanks, Evan On Jun 9, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: Well that court case looks old, and it was dismissed last November. Although it may have been on a technicality and there is a new case elsewhere. But as they just announced $30 million in funding we can be pretty sure they arent going belly-up anytime soon, and that people have been prepared to risk that much money on Veoh despite whatever legal risks there are going forwards. So who knows, it could be an unpleasant mess behind the scenes, your experience may be typical or it may not, either way they have let you down and that sucks :( Medium-term I still would not be surprised if most of these comapnies are stuffed, and it is interesting to see whether customer support holds up now that the honeymoon hype period for online video has passed. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sheila English [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've left messages at the Veoh Networks corporate site, I've sent various email. I've still heard nothing. I just called them today though, so hopefully I will hear back this week. I'm a little concerned that copyright infringement lawsuits are going to harm Veoh. It's not like they're the only ones getting sued, but it seems like a significant suit. I'm not someone who is great with legal-eze but maybe someone here can take a look at this and know what's going on- http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/california/casdce/ 3:2007cv01568/253104/ It says that the docket report was last checked in Feb. 2008. Personally, if it were my business, the minute things started to appear bad, such as law suits and losing a lot of employees, I would beef up my customer service and make sure my core content providers, advertisers and partners were well taken care of. But, that's just me. Sheila They just raised another $30m - now valued at $125m - see http://news.google.com/news?q=veoh On the other hand investor Michael Eisner thinks the model sucks.. http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/ eisner_to_veoh_but_when_do_i_get_paid_ He told Shapiro that the video aggregators, so adept at raising and spending money, are not handing enough back to the people who actually make the videos themselves. They're shooting themselves in the foot, he said. They are trying to elicit a fee to integrate on sites like Veoh but with a revenue split that makes it impossible for a content producer to get enough money to cover production. If I were running one of the distribution companies I would not look to make $2.50 but encourage the content creators to make it, he said. I'm not sure the distributors are thinking through where the content players have to come out -- instead of how to make a little money. -- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com -- [Non-text portions
Re: [videoblogging] Canon HV-20 24p-60i issue
Apple has some info on the HV-20/Final Cut workflow to get 1080p24 footage into the editor. Short version is you have to import it as 60i and then reverse telecine each clip with either Cinema Tools or Compressor. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306389 Good luck, -- Kary Rogers http://karyhead.com http://goodcommitment.tv On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:53 PM, eric gunnar rochow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey everyone, i recently bought a Canon HV-20 to complement my larger camera, the Canon XHA1. i usually shoot in 24P mode with the XHA1. i was under the impression that the HV-20 could shoot in 24P, but i now learn that it shoots in a 'sort-of 24P' mode that is then 'wrapped' in a 60i format. when you import the footage into FInal Cut, it is a 60i file. i shoot in progressive ( P format ) specifically for the web, and now it looks like i will have to de-interlace this HV-20 footage before uploading to Blip, etc. Does anyone have any experience with this or suggestions? i just learned that Canon's new camera , the HV-30 shoots in true 30P, so i may be selling this one and getting the new model , as i really want the progressive format. thx, eric. www.gree-house.tv Gardenfork and Real World Green [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Canon HV-20 24p-60i issue
Kary has the basics down. I use a Canon HV20 and shoot in 24P. It's not actually 24 progressive frames per second. It records 24 progressive frames across 60 interlaced frames. What this means is you have to do a double process. The first one is to import the video as HDV into Final Cut. Once you do that, you use reveal in finder to find the clips in your capture scratch bin, then you import those files into Compressor. There are some settings you have to make... something like setting deinterlacing to reverse telecine and setting the fps to 23.978 and probably some other stuff, but that's outlined in the Apple docs. You only have to do it once, and then you use that preset for every clip you import. As you can tell, time-wise, that's a drag. Another thing you can do, assuming you're not delivering in 1080 is set up your Compressor preset to translate the footage to 1280x720. Oh, that's another thing. Translate the HDV footage into Apple ProRes. Anyway, once all that's done, the video's great. :) Once you set it up in Compressor, the process takes a long time, but your final result's fantastic for $700. Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kary Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple has some info on the HV-20/Final Cut workflow to get 1080p24 footage into the editor. Short version is you have to import it as 60i and then reverse telecine each clip with either Cinema Tools or Compressor. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306389 Good luck, -- Kary Rogers http://karyhead.com http://goodcommitment.tv On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:53 PM, eric gunnar rochow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey everyone, i recently bought a Canon HV-20 to complement my larger camera, the Canon XHA1. i usually shoot in 24P mode with the XHA1. i was under the impression that the HV-20 could shoot in 24P, but i now learn that it shoots in a 'sort-of 24P' mode that is then 'wrapped' in a 60i format. when you import the footage into FInal Cut, it is a 60i file. i shoot in progressive ( P format ) specifically for the web, and now it looks like i will have to de-interlace this HV-20 footage before uploading to Blip, etc. Does anyone have any experience with this or suggestions? i just learned that Canon's new camera , the HV-30 shoots in true 30P, so i may be selling this one and getting the new model , as i really want the progressive format. thx, eric. www.gree-house.tv Gardenfork and Real World Green [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Canon HV-20 24p-60i issue
It is 24p. Real 24p. It is just 24p with 3:2 pulldown added. It is no different in that sense from film footage you've had telecine'd or 24p (as opposed to PA) DVX100 footage. And unlike the XH-A1 and its ilk, it is true 24P rather than the pixel shift res-compromised fakery (effective as it is) of 24F. It is not a big deal once you are used to it, and forces your hand to move your footage out of the gawdawful HDV format in the process. Apple has a doc on their site that deals specifically with the camera and their process, which is basically just removing the pulldown in compressor while converting to prores (or another non-temporally-compressed codec of your choice). You can also use the free downloadable JES deinterlacer program to do it. Or for that matter After Effects. Occasionally - and i mean it is REALLY rare - JES or compressor will misinterpret the cadence. SO you redo a couple of clips. Oh well. Remember waiting for film to be ready at the lab? This is really no big deal, just not as seamless as it is with a DVX or HVX or, I assume, the XH-A1. To get this (and the rest of what it does) out of a $700 camera is a miracle. Here is my process, which I use constantly: 1. Capture using capture now at 29.97. 20 minutes or a whole tape. Why capture now (which I normally tell students to NEVER use)? Because FCP automatically separates each clip on capture due to the HV20's manner of dealing with timecode in 24p mode. 2. Load'em up in compressor or JES, or highlight them in the browser and do it from FCP. 3. Export to prores, aic, photojpeg @ 75% quality or higher, or DVCproHD in compressor. Set frame controls in the preset to do a reverse telecine before you do it. If you're going to do this a lot, make a preset, or better yet a droplet. I use prores HQ at 1440x1080. (there is no quality advantage at this stage to using 1920 - some would argue there is no quality advantage to HQ coming from HDV, but if really stretch things around in post processing like I do you definitely will see a difference in the end). I capture, reverse telecine, and edit 24p footage from the HV20 almost every day. Now if they can just move the manual focus controls and add one more control so I can control aperture and shutter simultaneously without tricking the camera interface I'll start to feel actually warm and fuzzy about the thing. Still, it's a miracle for the money. Brook On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kary has the basics down. I use a Canon HV20 and shoot in 24P. It's not actually 24 progressive frames per second. It records 24 progressive frames across 60 interlaced frames. What this means is you have to do a double process. The first one is to import the video as HDV into Final Cut. Once you do that, you use reveal in finder to find the clips in your capture scratch bin, then you import those files into Compressor. There are some settings you have to make... something like setting deinterlacing to reverse telecine and setting the fps to 23.978 and probably some other stuff, but that's outlined in the Apple docs. You only have to do it once, and then you use that preset for every clip you import. As you can tell, time-wise, that's a drag. Another thing you can do, assuming you're not delivering in 1080 is set up your Compressor preset to translate the footage to 1280x720. Oh, that's another thing. Translate the HDV footage into Apple ProRes. Anyway, once all that's done, the video's great. :) Once you set it up in Compressor, the process takes a long time, but your final result's fantastic for $700. Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Kary Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple has some info on the HV-20/Final Cut workflow to get 1080p24 footage into the editor. Short version is you have to import it as 60i and then reverse telecine each clip with either Cinema Tools or Compressor. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306389 Good luck, -- Kary Rogers http://karyhead.com http://goodcommitment.tv On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:53 PM, eric gunnar rochow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey everyone, i recently bought a Canon HV-20 to complement my larger camera, the Canon XHA1. i usually shoot in 24P mode with the XHA1. i was under the impression that the HV-20 could shoot in 24P, but i now learn that it shoots in a 'sort-of 24P' mode that is then 'wrapped' in a 60i format. when you import the footage into FInal Cut, it is a 60i file. i shoot in progressive ( P format ) specifically for the web, and now it looks like i will have to de-interlace this HV-20 footage before uploading to Blip, etc. Does anyone have any experience with this or suggestions? i just learned that Canon's new camera , the HV-30 shoots in true 30P, so i may be selling this one and getting the new model , as
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Canon HV-20 24p-60i issue
You know, I thought I was responding to a different mailing list on which the tone of that would have been more appropriate and taken with a grain of salt, so please excuse the haughty tone and some irrelevant material within. Sorry!!! (slinking off to a corner) On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is 24p. Real 24p. It is just 24p with 3:2 pulldown added. It is no different in that sense from film footage you've had telecine'd or 24p (as opposed to PA) DVX100 footage. And unlike the XH-A1 and its ilk, it is true 24P rather than the pixel shift res-compromised fakery (effective as it is) of 24F. It is not a big deal once you are used to it, and forces your hand to move your footage out of the gawdawful HDV format in the process. Apple has a doc on their site that deals specifically with the camera and their process, which is basically just removing the pulldown in compressor while converting to prores (or another non-temporally-compressed codec of your choice). You can also use the free downloadable JES deinterlacer program to do it. Or for that matter After Effects. Occasionally - and i mean it is REALLY rare - JES or compressor will misinterpret the cadence. SO you redo a couple of clips. Oh well. Remember waiting for film to be ready at the lab? This is really no big deal, just not as seamless as it is with a DVX or HVX or, I assume, the XH-A1. To get this (and the rest of what it does) out of a $700 camera is a miracle. Here is my process, which I use constantly: 1. Capture using capture now at 29.97. 20 minutes or a whole tape. Why capture now (which I normally tell students to NEVER use)? Because FCP automatically separates each clip on capture due to the HV20's manner of dealing with timecode in 24p mode. 2. Load'em up in compressor or JES, or highlight them in the browser and do it from FCP. 3. Export to prores, aic, photojpeg @ 75% quality or higher, or DVCproHD in compressor. Set frame controls in the preset to do a reverse telecine before you do it. If you're going to do this a lot, make a preset, or better yet a droplet. I use prores HQ at 1440x1080. (there is no quality advantage at this stage to using 1920 - some would argue there is no quality advantage to HQ coming from HDV, but if really stretch things around in post processing like I do you definitely will see a difference in the end). I capture, reverse telecine, and edit 24p footage from the HV20 almost every day. Now if they can just move the manual focus controls and add one more control so I can control aperture and shutter simultaneously without tricking the camera interface I'll start to feel actually warm and fuzzy about the thing. Still, it's a miracle for the money. Brook On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kary has the basics down. I use a Canon HV20 and shoot in 24P. It's not actually 24 progressive frames per second. It records 24 progressive frames across 60 interlaced frames. What this means is you have to do a double process. The first one is to import the video as HDV into Final Cut. Once you do that, you use reveal in finder to find the clips in your capture scratch bin, then you import those files into Compressor. There are some settings you have to make... something like setting deinterlacing to reverse telecine and setting the fps to 23.978 and probably some other stuff, but that's outlined in the Apple docs. You only have to do it once, and then you use that preset for every clip you import. As you can tell, time-wise, that's a drag. Another thing you can do, assuming you're not delivering in 1080 is set up your Compressor preset to translate the footage to 1280x720. Oh, that's another thing. Translate the HDV footage into Apple ProRes. Anyway, once all that's done, the video's great. :) Once you set it up in Compressor, the process takes a long time, but your final result's fantastic for $700. Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Kary Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple has some info on the HV-20/Final Cut workflow to get 1080p24 footage into the editor. Short version is you have to import it as 60i and then reverse telecine each clip with either Cinema Tools or Compressor. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306389 Good luck, -- Kary Rogers http://karyhead.com http://goodcommitment.tv On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:53 PM, eric gunnar rochow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey everyone, i recently bought a Canon HV-20 to complement my larger camera, the Canon XHA1. i usually shoot in 24P mode with the XHA1. i was under the impression that the HV-20 could shoot in 24P, but i now learn that it shoots in a 'sort-of 24P' mode that is then 'wrapped' in a 60i format. when you import the footage into FInal Cut, it is a 60i file.
[videoblogging] Re: Canon HV-20 24p-60i issue
hey thanks for all the info. i think i will end up getting the HV 30, as i want the Progressive format to have it look good on the web, and i'd like to avoid having to do the reverse telecine. eric.
[videoblogging] Re: Is Veoh going belly up or just going through a growth spurt?
I had not seen that article! Thank you for sharing it. That just confirms my own suspicions that Veoh is having some real problems. They appear to be having a true disconnect from their content providers and users. I can't help but wonder if they're self-sabotaging in their, seemingly, desperate bid to find a solid revenue stream? You can't court investors while pissing off content providers and site users...or can you? I guess only time will tell. Sheila --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose customer service may also take a nosedive even if the company isnt dying, but just decides to refocus, and clients that they previously coveted are no longer of interest. Again I am not suggesting this is the case with Veoh. But I was disgusted to hear they are blocking access to their videos in many countries now: http://newteevee.com/2008/06/01/veoh-blocks-some-international-access/ So they are willing to throw away up to 10% of their audience. Shame shame, booo! Cheers Steve Elbows
[videoblogging] Re: Sharing some good news
Thank you Rox! I went out and bought the newspaper right away! LOL As soon as I hear anything solid on the other opportunities I will certainly send links! As a side note there's a lot shaking up over at Lonely Planet. I think your videos would be great there! I have a contact if you're interested. They are serving their digital travel books up in single chapters so you don't have to buy the entire book. Several of those books have your neck of the woods in them. Might be a nice synergy for them to play your videos around those books. Let me know if you're interested! Cheers! Sheila --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations Sheila! You are as deserving of this as anyone I can think of. When you get a minute. send us your links. Aloha, Rox On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Sheila English [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a great week for my company and I wanted to share the good news! We were in The Wall Street Journal on Saturday and that has resulted in some great contacts! We also just found out that one of our original shows is under consideration for Transit TV (11 million views a week)while a different one is being considered by Lifetime TV online. Of course being under consideration doesn't always pan out, but it was really nice to hear people be enthusiastic about our shows! I'm finding more and more people interested in original shows, but I wonder if the actor's strike will create changes that harm online episodic content distribution? I don't expect to have to hire SAG actors to be in my shows, but adding new rules often results in mass confusion during the learning curve and that always gives me a headache. Thanks for letting me share! Have a great week! Sheila -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Is Veoh going belly up or just going through a growth spurt?
Thank you Kathryn! For the congrats and for sharing the email. I have always gotten email from Veoh, but I didn't see this come through. This is very helpful! You rock!!! Sheila --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kathryn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheila, I assume you received this email... but just in case you didnt... best.. and CONGRATS! Kathryn http://www.synchronis.tv Hi all: As you know, Emilia Mello is no longer with Veoh. We are excited to have you as publishers and are happy that you have chosen to publish you content on Veoh. I wanted to reach out to you all to say hi and also to set up some measures to make sure that you each of a means to communicate with Veoh in her absence. This is especially important since I will be out of the office all next week (so no emails please, I�ll be busy vacationing J). For the immediate future we have set up to email addresses that are reserved specifically for our publishing partners to contact someone at Veoh. � For technical support related issues please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please include as much detail as possible about your issue. If you are having a problem with a specific video that you have published you must send us the url for the video so the tech support team can find it. � For requests concerning promotion please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] . In your email please include the url for the individual video you want promoted, a 1 sentence description of the video and any specific date information that is relevant regarding promotion (e.g. if you want to have it promoted on a specific date). A few notes. As I said, this email was set up only for trusted partners. Please do not share it with anyone. There are lots of you and we want to share the love fairly, so please be reasonable in the number of times you request promotion from us. Finally, we will read all of your promotional requests, but will likely not be able to respond to each person directly. Lastly, please be patient with us as we work through this transition period. Thanks,
