[videoblogging] Re: is Revver no more?
Still down. Even if they are not dead, outages of this length are very bad for their business in future. There also seems to be some people complaining on revver wikipedia page that they didnt get paid for 2nd half of 2008. Doesnt bode well. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kim Waldauer k...@... wrote: sorry if this is a duplicate reply, thought I hit that little post button first time round...anyway -- whew nice to know revver is alive even 'improving, (maybe their communication will be part of their overall improvement, too) though I'll probably still go to a blip embed (thanks Rupert for the link!) thanks for everyone's responses! Kim http://www.cubenews1.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: Revver is not down its just being upgraded: http://tinyurl.com/budsku On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Jay dedman wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Kim Waldauer kimw@ wrote: Does anyone know if Revver is completely out of business? I haven't been able to get onto their site for 2 days and no one over there is responding to emails. Haven't seen any official news. This is a good reminder to everyone to have your videos backed up in multiple places. Free hosting will come and go over the years. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: is Revver no more?
Looks like the parent company has been wobbly for months: http://www.flickfilosopher.com/blog/2008/10/peerflixlive_universe_is_a_dea.html http://www.moviemarketingmadness.com/blog/2009/01/05/just-leave-the-money-on- the-dresser-still-nothing-from-live-universe/ http://valleywag.gawker.com/5057940/liveuniverse-struggling-to-pay-employees- clients http://valleywag.gawker.com/5071463/myspace-foe-cant-keep-it-up Run away! Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins st...@... wrote: Still down. Even if they are not dead, outages of this length are very bad for their business in future. There also seems to be some people complaining on revver wikipedia page that they didnt get paid for 2nd half of 2008. Doesnt bode well. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kim Waldauer kimw@ wrote: sorry if this is a duplicate reply, thought I hit that little post button first time round...anyway -- whew nice to know revver is alive even 'improving, (maybe their communication will be part of their overall improvement, too) though I'll probably still go to a blip embed (thanks Rupert for the link!) thanks for everyone's responses! Kim http://www.cubenews1.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: Revver is not down its just being upgraded: http://tinyurl.com/budsku On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Jay dedman wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Kim Waldauer kimw@ wrote: Does anyone know if Revver is completely out of business? I haven't been able to get onto their site for 2 days and no one over there is responding to emails. Haven't seen any official news. This is a good reminder to everyone to have your videos backed up in multiple places. Free hosting will come and go over the years. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: is Revver no more?
If you remember Kent Nichols of Ask A Ninja pulled his content from Revver a long time ago. kentnichols.com/2008/02/14/congrats-goodbye-to-revver/ Tim Street 1timstr...@gmail.com http://1timstreet.com/blog http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: Looks like the parent company has been wobbly for months: http://www.flickfilosopher.com/blog/2008/10/peerflixlive_universe_is_a_dea.html http://www.moviemarketingmadness.com/blog/2009/01/05/just-leave-the-money-on- the-dresser-still-nothing-from-live-universe/ http://valleywag.gawker.com/5057940/liveuniverse-struggling-to-pay-employees- clients http://valleywag.gawker.com/5071463/myspace-foe-cant-keep-it-up Run away! Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins st...@... wrote: Still down. Even if they are not dead, outages of this length are very bad for their business in future. There also seems to be some people complaining on revver wikipedia page that they didnt get paid for 2nd half of 2008. Doesnt bode well. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kim Waldauer kimw@ wrote: sorry if this is a duplicate reply, thought I hit that little post button first time round...anyway -- whew nice to know revver is alive even 'improving, (maybe their communication will be part of their overall improvement, too) though I'll probably still go to a blip embed (thanks Rupert for the link!) thanks for everyone's responses! Kim http://www.cubenews1.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: Revver is not down its just being upgraded: http://tinyurl.com/budsku On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Jay dedman wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Kim Waldauer kimw@ wrote: Does anyone know if Revver is completely out of business? I haven't been able to get onto their site for 2 days and no one over there is responding to emails. Haven't seen any official news. This is a good reminder to everyone to have your videos backed up in multiple places. Free hosting will come and go over the years. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: is Revver no more?
How hard is it to understand the concept of communicating with customers and clients? Part of the reason businesses are tanking is that whether brick and mortar or online merchants fail to inform about planned outages or changes in services. This is astounding that so many companies just don't get this simple fact. Businesses have relationships with people they call customers and clients. Communication is part of that relationship. Exchanging pay for services is another part. If you stop communicating with me and make it harder for me to know what is going on I will walk away. If you don't deliver the service you said you would I will take my money and find another place that will or do without. If I walk away with bad feelings I'm gonna tell someone and they tell two friends and so on... I shouldn't need access to the big boss to find out this kind of stuff. Headbanging stupid. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kim Waldauer k...@... wrote: Does anyone know if Revver is completely out of business? I haven't been able to get onto their site for 2 days and no one over there is responding to emails. Kinda regretting I use them for my rss feed streaming videos on website. I mean used. I know there have been rumors floating around about thembut was wondering if anyone on this forum knew anything. -Kim http://www.cubenews1.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: is Revver no more?
Be astounded no more, Gena. My experiene tells me that businesses having to do with effective external communications are oftentimes the absolute worst at logistics and...you guessed it...communications. 2009/1/31 Gena compumaven...@earthlink.net How hard is it to understand the concept of communicating with customers and clients? Part of the reason businesses are tanking is that whether brick and mortar or online merchants fail to inform about planned outages or changes in services. This is astounding that so many companies just don't get this simple fact. Businesses have relationships with people they call customers and clients. Communication is part of that relationship. Exchanging pay for services is another part. If you stop communicating with me and make it harder for me to know what is going on I will walk away. If you don't deliver the service you said you would I will take my money and find another place that will or do without. If I walk away with bad feelings I'm gonna tell someone and they tell two friends and so on... I shouldn't need access to the big boss to find out this kind of stuff. Headbanging stupid. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Kim Waldauer k...@... wrote: Does anyone know if Revver is completely out of business? I haven't been able to get onto their site for 2 days and no one over there is responding to emails. Kinda regretting I use them for my rss feed streaming videos on website. I mean used. I know there have been rumors floating around about thembut was wondering if anyone on this forum knew anything. -Kim http://www.cubenews1.com -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: is Revver no more?
How bloody difficult is it to put up a Revver is undergoing maintenance page. You do it if you're offline for an HOUR, let alone a week. They must be unable to pay their bills and have been cut off. The story they told Andrew Baron doesn't ring true at all. But you'd think to back it up they'd at least redirect their domain to a single holding page somewhere, on someone else's server. Not to do so smells of self-pity and despair. Like they're just walking away. Who'd use them after this? With this kind of behaviour, they're begging to go bust. On 31-Jan-09, at 11:26 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: Be astounded no more, Gena. My experiene tells me that businesses having to do with effective external communications are oftentimes the absolute worst at logistics and...you guessed it...communications. 2009/1/31 Gena compumaven...@earthlink.net How hard is it to understand the concept of communicating with customers and clients? Part of the reason businesses are tanking is that whether brick and mortar or online merchants fail to inform about planned outages or changes in services. This is astounding that so many companies just don't get this simple fact. Businesses have relationships with people they call customers and clients. Communication is part of that relationship. Exchanging pay for services is another part. If you stop communicating with me and make it harder for me to know what is going on I will walk away. If you don't deliver the service you said you would I will take my money and find another place that will or do without. If I walk away with bad feelings I'm gonna tell someone and they tell two friends and so on... I shouldn't need access to the big boss to find out this kind of stuff. Headbanging stupid. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Kim Waldauer k...@... wrote: Does anyone know if Revver is completely out of business? I haven't been able to get onto their site for 2 days and no one over there is responding to emails. Kinda regretting I use them for my rss feed streaming videos on website. I mean used. I know there have been rumors floating around about thembut was wondering if anyone on this forum knew anything. -Kim http://www.cubenews1.com -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ Creative Mobile Filmmaking Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: is Revver no more?
You make a good point Rupert! Redirecting the URL somewhere should have been the thing to do whatever the circumstances, I mean it wouldn't be that expensive and they can't be THAT broke! I bet I could make a very fancy page like that in well under 1k, so even bandwidth can't be an issue! I'm wondering if they aren't looking for a buyer desperately at the last minute, or maybe they really are just relocating the servers etc and making a right hash of it! I like Revver tho and don't want to talk them down. It was my favourite online video service and I never understood why they couldn't get the support they needed. This has made me think tho, that there must be a lot of very vulnerable web companies out there and what is going to happen to them in the current economic situation? In fact other than youtube and myspace which video companies are backed by large entities? love Freya --- On Sat, 1/31/09, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote: From: Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: is Revver no more? To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 7:36 PM How bloody difficult is it to put up a Revver is undergoing maintenance page. You do it if you're offline for an HOUR, let alone a week. They must be unable to pay their bills and have been cut off. The story they told Andrew Baron doesn't ring true at all. But you'd think to back it up they'd at least redirect their domain to a single holding page somewhere, on someone else's server. Not to do so smells of self-pity and despair. Like they're just walking away. Who'd use them after this? With this kind of behaviour, they're begging to go bust. On 31-Jan-09, at 11:26 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: Be astounded no more, Gena. My experiene tells me that businesses having to do with effective external communications are oftentimes the absolute worst at logistics and...you guessed it...communications . 2009/1/31 Gena compumavengal@ earthlink. net How hard is it to understand the concept of communicating with customers and clients? Part of the reason businesses are tanking is that whether brick and mortar or online merchants fail to inform about planned outages or changes in services. This is astounding that so many companies just don't get this simple fact. Businesses have relationships with people they call customers and clients. Communication is part of that relationship. Exchanging pay for services is another part. If you stop communicating with me and make it harder for me to know what is going on I will walk away. If you don't deliver the service you said you would I will take my money and find another place that will or do without. If I walk away with bad feelings I'm gonna tell someone and they tell two friends and so on... I shouldn't need access to the big boss to find out this kind of stuff. Headbanging stupid. Gena --- In videoblogging@ yahoogroups. com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups. com, Kim Waldauer k...@... wrote: Does anyone know if Revver is completely out of business? I haven't been able to get onto their site for 2 days and no one over there is responding to emails. Kinda regretting I use them for my rss feed streaming videos on website. I mean used. I know there have been rumors floating around about thembut was wondering if anyone on this forum knew anything. -Kim http://www.cubenews 1.com -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter. com/jeffreytaylo r http://organicconve rsations. com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Rupert http://twittervlog. tv/ Creative Mobile Filmmaking Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Backing up your media
After the recent discussion about Revver, and the need to backup your videos elsewhere, I thought I'd mention Mozy (which now has a Mac client). I recently had a nasty drive failure (my Drobo and its backup both failed on the same day...with Seagate drives no less). For $4.95/month I now backup to Mozy, with unlimited storage capacity. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Backing up your media
Thank you. This is just what I was about to ask. Apart from YouTube, I don't think we can take any of them for granted this year. None of their revenue models are obvious as far as I can see, and their data costs must be big. Back up! On 31-Jan-09, at 2:53 PM, Josh Paul wrote: After the recent discussion about Revver, and the need to backup your videos elsewhere, I thought I'd mention Mozy (which now has a Mac client). I recently had a nasty drive failure (my Drobo and its backup both failed on the same day...with Seagate drives no less). For $4.95/month I now backup to Mozy, with unlimited storage capacity. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ Creative Mobile Filmmaking Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Backing up your media
what about uploading to archive.org as a backup? don't they have good financial backing to keep it going in the future from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_Kahle Kahle and his wife Mary Austin created the Kahle/Austin Foundationhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kahle/Austin_Foundationaction=editredlink=1, a US$45 million trust which in 2003 gave US$1,787,175 to Internet Archivehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive . 2009/2/1 Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org Thank you. This is just what I was about to ask. Apart from YouTube, I don't think we can take any of them for granted this year. None of their revenue models are obvious as far as I can see, and their data costs must be big. Back up! On 31-Jan-09, at 2:53 PM, Josh Paul wrote: After the recent discussion about Revver, and the need to backup your videos elsewhere, I thought I'd mention Mozy (which now has a Mac client). I recently had a nasty drive failure (my Drobo and its backup both failed on the same day...with Seagate drives no less). For $4.95/month I now backup to Mozy, with unlimited storage capacity. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ Creative Mobile Filmmaking Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Backing up your media
On Jan 31, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: what about uploading to archive.org as a backup? don't they have good financial backing to keep it going in the future Great point! i recently asked andrew davis (papyromancer) to put together a new promo video for the archive he just posted it last week. i love the idea he came up with. Check out his vlog: http://papyromancer.net/posts/7 also at http://www.archive.org/details/InternetArchiveCreativeCommonsPromo Also, please check out his project to translate the video to all languages that have a CC license version. Markus http://ourmedia.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] should youtube just start a new brand for Pro Content?
i think it can be wedged while also being separated. an example would be a google search where you are presented with top youtube video results first. On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM, @sull sullele...@gmail.comsulleleven%40gmail.com wrote: Does anyone think that at this point YouTube/Google should just start a new site (company) specifically for Pro Content (professionally produced entertainment) and just promote the hell out of it on Youtube.com and various other Google owned sites/pages? Let YouTube continue to be the Broadcast Yourself service and filter out their partner content? Why mix it all together? Curious of your thoughts. I think Youtube knows they benefit from mixing it all together. Videobloggers/regular people are thousands of clips every hour helping grow their library and search ability. Commercial content then wedges itself in between all this. You even see advertising/promotion/pro-content feeling more amateur so it has a whiff of authenticity. By making a Pro/Commercial siteit lets me know here is where they will try to sell me on stuff. it wont feel like a cool playground anymore where anything can happen. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Made the press with my blog post today
come check it out.. I made most of the major networks here locally in ny http://www.quintanomedia.com/index.php/2009/01/31/breaking-news-caught-us-airways-flight-1549-being-towed-to-teteboro-airport-on-rte-46/ http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2015298l=4558did=837243661 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2015333l=9a74cid=837243661
Re: [videoblogging] Made the press with my blog post today
Way to go! How did it happen they found your footage? Jan On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:05 AM, quintanomedia aquint...@gmail.com wrote: come check it out.. I made most of the major networks here locally in ny http://www.quintanomedia.com/index.php/2009/01/31/breaking-news-caught-us-airways-flight-1549-being-towed-to-teteboro-airport-on-rte-46/ http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2015298l=4558did=837243661 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2015333l=9a74cid=837243661 Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin
Re: [videoblogging] Made the press with my blog post today
I would like to know too. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Jan McLaughlin jannie@gmail.com wrote: Way to go! How did it happen they found your footage? Jan On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:05 AM, quintanomedia aquint...@gmail.comaquintano%40gmail.com wrote: come check it out.. I made most of the major networks here locally in ny http://www.quintanomedia.com/index.php/2009/01/31/breaking-news-caught-us-airways-flight-1549-being-towed-to-teteboro-airport-on-rte-46/ http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2015298l=4558did=837243661 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2015333l=9a74cid=837243661 Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
