Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
Thanks, Jim. I totally appreciate what you're saying, and thank you for taking what I had to say in the spirit it was given. There is a market for a well-done web video event that listens and serves the many openly-stated needs out there, but I think any association with Vloggercon wouldn't serve any party involved. Starting fresh and creating your own context is what I see as the most prudent course of action here. I think there's more infrastructure to build on from your end than Vloggercon's, as the web video space has become an entirely different animal with many new players since the last Vloggercon event. If there's anything you would like to talk to the organizers about, shoot me a mail directly and I will be happy to connect you. J 2009/5/14 Jim Turner > These are some great points Jeffrey and I am going to make sure that I > voice > them to the the leadership at Blog World and New Media Expo. To the extent > that we are replacing Vloggercon or any other I'm not sure that is our > intent. The idea behind putting a "vloggercon" type event together at Blog > World is to leverage the already existing infrastructure and such. I am > not > purporting to belong to the group of vloggers, as I indicated I am just now > getting into it. I felt I needed to get an idea of what it was before I > could approach people and sound even remotely educated in their world. > > As an executive Board Member of the International Blogging and New Media > Association I am also very interested in the education and cause side of > vlogging and other ideas so feel free to give me some guidance in that > regard. I think this scope of ideas are good to know in that respect as > well. > > ...and yes, I agree Steve is a RAWK star! > > Jim > > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jeffrey Taylor < > thejeffreytay...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > The first thing to say is how wonderful I think Steve Garfield and his > > commitment to community is. He is such an asset to anyone who knows him > and > > any community that he is a part of. I don't know him too well, but he is > > clearly one of the most valuable connectors around, and is a model for > > anyone interested in creating community on the web. > > > > Funny this should all come up...we've just finalized this year's Vlog > > Europe > > being in Paris and Clermont-Ferrand, France this year yesterday. We'll > have > > dates and other things later, and you'll find more communications coming > > from Raymond and Loiez than me, as I'm stepping back a bit and letting > the > > Europeans run their own European event now that I'm in San Francisco. > > > > With Vlog Europe, we have/had the added benefit of very easy > accessibility > > to different cultures and different cities every year. And we've also > been > > SUPER lucky to have faithful sponsors that get that we're not trying to > be > > a > > major for-profit event like Le Web, New Media Expo or Jeff Pulver's > events. > > In the end, though, I think the event has survived because there's a core > > committed group that really wants this to happen every year and this > really > > frames the event and that the event has never completely lost momentum. > > Vlog Europe (and in my opinion, Vloggercon too) has avoided the > temptations > > of being part of the larger tech conference/event circuit and being a > > for-profit conference. Once someone starts making money out of the deal, > > everything changes and, rightly or wrongly, there's some discomfort with > > that and things tend to fall apart. > > > > While the ethos of that era is highly influential to me and to many of > you, > > I think any attempt to force the same outcomes we had back then would > > result > > in disappointment and possibly disaster. We've all narrowed our foci and > > changed, and I think this comes out of a realization that we are just one > > community in a larger, non-linear web video community that has developed. > > Because of this, people who would have organized Vloggercon years ago are > > knee-deep in other projects, and organizing a conference of the size and > > scope that Vloggercon covered would be a massive project. Presented with > > the > > choice of Vloggercon or teaching people to videoblog, starting advocacy > > projects like the Open Video Alliance and the artist/documentarian org I > am > > working to create and others, many of us are choosing the latter. In > short, > > I think many in the community that made up the two Vloggercons are more > > interested in using their influence and tenure in this community to drive > > change instead of organizing a conference with more of a general purpose > > than a conference with a specific purpose. > > > > To be perfectly honest, I personally have discomfort with any for-profit > > entity taking over the Vloggercon name and what those two events > represent. > > This is not up to me. But knowing the people that organized Vloggercon, I > > am > > willing to bet the farm th
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
On May 14, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: > > Between Bill and I (I grew up in St. Louis), I wager we can make > that $500 > worth every penny. St. Louis can be an insanely great town, but you > have to > know where to go. Don't take that bet! :) We stopped by St. Louis on our cross country trip in February. Bill was a most gracious host and really showed us the town. Literally. I highly recommend the lofistl, downtown, midnight tour with Bill as guide. http://www.flickr.com/photos/apperceive/3321216587 Markus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
You're welcome! I only just escaped a financial scalping myself. I was scolding myself for not having got my act together to buy tickets earlier, then it turned out for the best. Same with another trip last year. Could have lost about $1500 altogether. On 14-May-09, at 10:04 AM, John Coffey wrote: > > > Hey Rupert, thanks for reminding me I still have 2 plane plane tix > to St Louis for the event Bill Streeter was going to do last summer. > Nothing like pissing away $500. > > JC > > --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Rupert wrote: > > From: Rupert > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media > Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ] > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:49 AM > > I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think > it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across > the country/world to attend a vlogging event. > > You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative > about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's > priorities and interests. > > Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and > there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but > in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the > registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets. > > Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about > screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the > people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two > years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the > economy. > > The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement > of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend. > > There's a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new > media expo, etc. The people who make their living from social media > that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social > media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog > and make money from blogging. But this doesn't include the majority > of vloggers, I don't think. > > And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into > attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much > more intimate. > > What does anybody else think? Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his > experience of organising VlogEurope? > > Rupert > http://twittervlog. tv > > On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of > > vloggercon and if there was going to be another one. > > > > People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it. > > > > I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are > > interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They > > would handle all the registration. > > > > Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo. > > > > Are people interested in this? > > > > Oct 15-17 Las Vegas. > > > > http://www.blogworl dexpo.com/ > > > > Air and hotels are cheap. > > > > Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to > > them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track > > within thier conference. > > > > Thanks, > > --Steve > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
Between Bill and I (I grew up in St. Louis), I wager we can make that $500 worth every penny. St. Louis can be an insanely great town, but you have to know where to go. 2009/5/14 John Coffey > > > Hey Rupert, thanks for reminding me I still have 2 plane plane tix to St > Louis for the event Bill Streeter was going to do last summer. Nothing like > pissing away $500. > > JC > > --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Rupert > > > wrote: > > From: Rupert > > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ > Vloggercon 2009? ] > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:49 AM > > > I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think > it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across > the country/world to attend a vlogging event. > > You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative > about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's > priorities and interests. > > Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and > there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but > in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the > registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets. > > Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about > screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the > people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two > years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the > economy. > > The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement > of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend. > > There's a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new > media expo, etc. The people who make their living from social media > that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social > media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog > and make money from blogging. But this doesn't include the majority > of vloggers, I don't think. > > And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into > attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much > more intimate. > > What does anybody else think? Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his > experience of organising VlogEurope? > > Rupert > http://twittervlog. tv > > On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of > > vloggercon and if there was going to be another one. > > > > People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it. > > > > I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are > > interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They > > would handle all the registration. > > > > Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo. > > > > Are people interested in this? > > > > Oct 15-17 Las Vegas. > > > > http://www.blogworl dexpo.com/ > > > > Air and hotels are cheap. > > > > Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to > > them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track > > within thier conference. > > > > Thanks, > > --Steve > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
Hey Rupert, thanks for reminding me I still have 2 plane plane tix to St Louis for the event Bill Streeter was going to do last summer. Nothing like pissing away $500. JC --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Rupert wrote: From: Rupert Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:49 AM I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across the country/world to attend a vlogging event. You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's priorities and interests. Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets. Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the economy. The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend. There's a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new media expo, etc. The people who make their living from social media that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog and make money from blogging. But this doesn't include the majority of vloggers, I don't think. And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much more intimate. What does anybody else think? Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his experience of organising VlogEurope? Rupert http://twittervlog. tv On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: > > > Hi, > > When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of > vloggercon and if there was going to be another one. > > People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it. > > I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are > interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They > would handle all the registration. > > Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo. > > Are people interested in this? > > Oct 15-17 Las Vegas. > > http://www.blogworl dexpo.com/ > > Air and hotels are cheap. > > Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to > them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track > within thier conference. > > Thanks, > --Steve > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
These are some great points Jeffrey and I am going to make sure that I voice them to the the leadership at Blog World and New Media Expo. To the extent that we are replacing Vloggercon or any other I'm not sure that is our intent. The idea behind putting a "vloggercon" type event together at Blog World is to leverage the already existing infrastructure and such. I am not purporting to belong to the group of vloggers, as I indicated I am just now getting into it. I felt I needed to get an idea of what it was before I could approach people and sound even remotely educated in their world. As an executive Board Member of the International Blogging and New Media Association I am also very interested in the education and cause side of vlogging and other ideas so feel free to give me some guidance in that regard. I think this scope of ideas are good to know in that respect as well. ...and yes, I agree Steve is a RAWK star! Jim On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: > Hi. > > The first thing to say is how wonderful I think Steve Garfield and his > commitment to community is. He is such an asset to anyone who knows him and > any community that he is a part of. I don't know him too well, but he is > clearly one of the most valuable connectors around, and is a model for > anyone interested in creating community on the web. > > Funny this should all come up...we've just finalized this year's Vlog > Europe > being in Paris and Clermont-Ferrand, France this year yesterday. We'll have > dates and other things later, and you'll find more communications coming > from Raymond and Loiez than me, as I'm stepping back a bit and letting the > Europeans run their own European event now that I'm in San Francisco. > > With Vlog Europe, we have/had the added benefit of very easy accessibility > to different cultures and different cities every year. And we've also been > SUPER lucky to have faithful sponsors that get that we're not trying to be > a > major for-profit event like Le Web, New Media Expo or Jeff Pulver's events. > In the end, though, I think the event has survived because there's a core > committed group that really wants this to happen every year and this really > frames the event and that the event has never completely lost momentum. > Vlog Europe (and in my opinion, Vloggercon too) has avoided the temptations > of being part of the larger tech conference/event circuit and being a > for-profit conference. Once someone starts making money out of the deal, > everything changes and, rightly or wrongly, there's some discomfort with > that and things tend to fall apart. > > While the ethos of that era is highly influential to me and to many of you, > I think any attempt to force the same outcomes we had back then would > result > in disappointment and possibly disaster. We've all narrowed our foci and > changed, and I think this comes out of a realization that we are just one > community in a larger, non-linear web video community that has developed. > Because of this, people who would have organized Vloggercon years ago are > knee-deep in other projects, and organizing a conference of the size and > scope that Vloggercon covered would be a massive project. Presented with > the > choice of Vloggercon or teaching people to videoblog, starting advocacy > projects like the Open Video Alliance and the artist/documentarian org I am > working to create and others, many of us are choosing the latter. In short, > I think many in the community that made up the two Vloggercons are more > interested in using their influence and tenure in this community to drive > change instead of organizing a conference with more of a general purpose > than a conference with a specific purpose. > > To be perfectly honest, I personally have discomfort with any for-profit > entity taking over the Vloggercon name and what those two events represent. > This is not up to me. But knowing the people that organized Vloggercon, I > am > willing to bet the farm that they agree and that it is unlikely that those > who own the rights to the name will allow anyone to take it over. The > videoblogging culture that existed 2004-2006 has evolved and subgroups and > completely disassociated communites of vloggers have formed, and there's no > going back. The idea of bringing back how things felt back then is > tantalizing, but I am afraid that that's impossible at this point. I used > to > feel like many of you disappointed that Vloggercon hasn't happened again. > But seeing how things developed, I consider the Vloggercon experience to be > whole, complete and appropriate for its time. > > That's not to say that another larger videoblogging event shouldn't happen > and that I wouldn't attend, as there's so many people who weren't around > when Vloggercon was happening and there's many perfectly great folks with > commercial interests that could benefit from having facetime with other > vloggers. I personally just don't think that even
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
Hi. The first thing to say is how wonderful I think Steve Garfield and his commitment to community is. He is such an asset to anyone who knows him and any community that he is a part of. I don't know him too well, but he is clearly one of the most valuable connectors around, and is a model for anyone interested in creating community on the web. Funny this should all come up...we've just finalized this year's Vlog Europe being in Paris and Clermont-Ferrand, France this year yesterday. We'll have dates and other things later, and you'll find more communications coming from Raymond and Loiez than me, as I'm stepping back a bit and letting the Europeans run their own European event now that I'm in San Francisco. With Vlog Europe, we have/had the added benefit of very easy accessibility to different cultures and different cities every year. And we've also been SUPER lucky to have faithful sponsors that get that we're not trying to be a major for-profit event like Le Web, New Media Expo or Jeff Pulver's events. In the end, though, I think the event has survived because there's a core committed group that really wants this to happen every year and this really frames the event and that the event has never completely lost momentum. Vlog Europe (and in my opinion, Vloggercon too) has avoided the temptations of being part of the larger tech conference/event circuit and being a for-profit conference. Once someone starts making money out of the deal, everything changes and, rightly or wrongly, there's some discomfort with that and things tend to fall apart. While the ethos of that era is highly influential to me and to many of you, I think any attempt to force the same outcomes we had back then would result in disappointment and possibly disaster. We've all narrowed our foci and changed, and I think this comes out of a realization that we are just one community in a larger, non-linear web video community that has developed. Because of this, people who would have organized Vloggercon years ago are knee-deep in other projects, and organizing a conference of the size and scope that Vloggercon covered would be a massive project. Presented with the choice of Vloggercon or teaching people to videoblog, starting advocacy projects like the Open Video Alliance and the artist/documentarian org I am working to create and others, many of us are choosing the latter. In short, I think many in the community that made up the two Vloggercons are more interested in using their influence and tenure in this community to drive change instead of organizing a conference with more of a general purpose than a conference with a specific purpose. To be perfectly honest, I personally have discomfort with any for-profit entity taking over the Vloggercon name and what those two events represent. This is not up to me. But knowing the people that organized Vloggercon, I am willing to bet the farm that they agree and that it is unlikely that those who own the rights to the name will allow anyone to take it over. The videoblogging culture that existed 2004-2006 has evolved and subgroups and completely disassociated communites of vloggers have formed, and there's no going back. The idea of bringing back how things felt back then is tantalizing, but I am afraid that that's impossible at this point. I used to feel like many of you disappointed that Vloggercon hasn't happened again. But seeing how things developed, I consider the Vloggercon experience to be whole, complete and appropriate for its time. That's not to say that another larger videoblogging event shouldn't happen and that I wouldn't attend, as there's so many people who weren't around when Vloggercon was happening and there's many perfectly great folks with commercial interests that could benefit from having facetime with other vloggers. I personally just don't think that event should be called Vloggercon. Just my two cents. Jeffrey 2009/5/14 Rupert > > > I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think > it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across > the country/world to attend a vlogging event. > > You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative > about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's > priorities and interests. > > Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and > there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but > in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the > registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets. > > Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about > screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the > people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two > years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the > economy. > > The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement > of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend. > > There's a s
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across the country/world to attend a vlogging event. You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's priorities and interests. Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets. Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the economy. The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend. There's a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new media expo, etc. The people who make their living from social media that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog and make money from blogging. But this doesn't include the majority of vloggers, I don't think. And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much more intimate. What does anybody else think? Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his experience of organising VlogEurope? Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: > > > Hi, > > When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of > vloggercon and if there was going to be another one. > > People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it. > > I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are > interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They > would handle all the registration. > > Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo. > > Are people interested in this? > > Oct 15-17 Las Vegas. > > http://www.blogworldexpo.com/ > > Air and hotels are cheap. > > Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to > them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track > within thier conference. > > Thanks, > --Steve > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
I'll confirm what Steve has said. I just joined the group not long ago as I have started www.socialmediasphere.tv and wanted a place to learn more about this crazy video world which I am falling in love with. I am the conference director and the social media director for Blog World and New Media Expo and as stated we are now merged with the New Media Expo as of December and would love to have a Vloggercon in Vegas. Vegas is really looking to make things awesome for visitors as the economy is really cutting into their business so it is really affordable. You can contact me Steve at Jim at Blogworldexpo.com and my cell is (303)594-6276 Right now we have opened the speakers proposals and we are taking them through May 31. Feel free to submit anything in that regard. I look forward to your comments and will pass those along to our CEO who is in Germany at the moment, but I will be in Hawaii with him and a couple of weeks. Yeah dirty job but someone has to do it... I am actiually trying to figure out a way to live stream my trip to Hawaii and have had my Twitter followers pick my itinerary so I can video what they choose and allow them to come along for the ride. Please let me know if you guys have any questions. Jim Turner Social Media Director Blog World and New Media Expo (303)594-6276 @Genuine On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: > > > Hi, > > When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of > vloggercon and if there was going to be another one. > > People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it. > > I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are interested in > adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They would handle all the > registration. > > Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo. > > Are people interested in this? > > Oct 15-17 Las Vegas. > > http://www.blogworldexpo.com/ > > Air and hotels are cheap. > > Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to them > about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track within thier > conference. > > Thanks, > --Steve > > > -- Jim Turner One By One Media, LLC www.onebyonemedia.com www.bloggersforhire.com @Genuine this email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
Hi, When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of vloggercon and if there was going to be another one. People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it. I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They would handle all the registration. Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo. Are people interested in this? Oct 15-17 Las Vegas. http://www.blogworldexpo.com/ Air and hotels are cheap. Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track within thier conference. Thanks, --Steve
