[videoblogging] German-speaking videoblog scene + ReRe: Hello definition of videoblog
Hi Kirstin, Ehrensenf is great, I really like it and actually I am going to analyse it within my thesis. - Another videoprogram is Buschka entdeckt Deutschland (round about 30 minutes one guy walks through German cities without any script): http://www.buschka-entdeckt.de/ - There is www.rebell.tv but it's from Suisse. - Kavka vs. The Web: http://www.myspace.com/kavkavstheweb (Kavka is a German journalist) - http://www.robvegas.de/ - http://www.elektrischer-reporter.de/ (cooperation with a tv network, ZDF) - http://www.balconytv.com/hamburg/heutige-show.aspx (music-show on a small balcony in Hamburg) ...there are a lot. But I can't give you hardly any real videoblog apart from prominent people. Tell me about your impressions sometime. Jenna --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kirstin kirstinbut...@... wrote: Hi Jenn, Nice to meet you! As a big fan of Ehrensenf, I'm curious: what other videoprogram-type vlogs are popular in Germany? Best, Kirstin http://www.digest.tv http://www.digest.tv http://www.twitter.com/kirstinbutler http://www.twitter.com/kirstinbutler --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elaluca11 mail@ wrote: Thanks a lot, Jay and Irina! I had checked the first 20 messages from the beginning of this group before I signed in. Really interesting, not only because it's already 5 years old. I agree, from 2005 on the Web-TV-community changes a lot because of YouTube. I divide the Web-TV-development in three parts: from 1993 until 2000 with pseudo.com, DEN and webisodes, 2000 until 2005 and the YouTube-era until today. Actually, there are not so many German-speaking vlogs. Most formats tend to a genre I call videoprogram (those I am concentrating on), they are more a semi-professional produced show or magazine (like Rocketboom). One quite famous videoblog of the scene just gave up: She (Schnutingers Netrzkabarett) was bashed because of acting in a commercial . However, in Germany there are rather videoblogs of prominent people than those of average citizens: like Angela Merkel's videoblog http://www.bundeskanzlerin.de/Webs/BK/De/Mediathek/Videos/videos.html (it's stiff and a kind of deadpan but unintentionally funny), the former videoblog of a famous show master (the German David Letterman: Harald Schmidt) or one blog of a German journalist: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-36686.html. Bye Jenn P.S. Irina, I'll check Geek Entertainment TV out! Thanks for it. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina irinaski@ wrote: hi jennifer i am happy to help u as well i am not like steve or jay from 2004 but i am from 2005 lol (november, honestly) we are still producing it if u can imagine still wordpress plus blip.tv i have done many shows since then and just started a new one for an online newspaper in sf. irina slutsky On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I am excited about the discussions in this community and the potential of so many people sharing thoughts about this topic! My first questions to you are: - Does someone know videoblogs founded from 2000 on (apart from Steve Garfield and Adam Kontras), English- or German-speaking ones? You should look in the archives of this group, started in 2004. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/messages/1?l=1 Here you will see how we were talking about videoblogs back then. Plenty of debates over the concept, term, and technical implementation. This is one of the frist messages of this group: (Peter and I) have had long talks about videoblogging and wanted to bring other people into the conversation. The ability to put video on blogs seems amazing to us, but there seem to be some obstacles. 1. Technically, the process takes too long.(capture, import, optimize, write some HTML, post). 2. existing servers don't allow much bandwidth and storage space. You'll either get screwed becasue too mnay people watch your posts, or you have to earse your archive video because youre out of space. 3. what is the language of videoblogging? is it little movies? or moments from your life? We believe that if we get interested people together, we'll answer all these questions. So this is the beginning. When this group started, there were only a few people who I found that were consciously posting video to blogs. Like Steve Garfield or Adrian Miles in Melbourne (http://vogmae.net.au/). Most people before 2004 seem to have posted video as an experiment as a one-off, were doing live video streaming, posted video to html pages (not blogs) so weren't easily searchable, or erased their archives. Here are some of the early folks in this group as seen from Videoblogging Week 2004.
[videoblogging] German-speaking videoblog scene + ReRe: Hello definition of videoblog
Hi Jenn, Nice to meet you! As a big fan of Ehrensenf, I'm curious: what other videoprogram-type vlogs are popular in Germany? Best, Kirstin http://www.digest.tv http://www.digest.tv http://www.twitter.com/kirstinbutler http://www.twitter.com/kirstinbutler --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elaluca11 m...@... wrote: Thanks a lot, Jay and Irina! I had checked the first 20 messages from the beginning of this group before I signed in. Really interesting, not only because it's already 5 years old. I agree, from 2005 on the Web-TV-community changes a lot because of YouTube. I divide the Web-TV-development in three parts: from 1993 until 2000 with pseudo.com, DEN and webisodes, 2000 until 2005 and the YouTube-era until today. Actually, there are not so many German-speaking vlogs. Most formats tend to a genre I call videoprogram (those I am concentrating on), they are more a semi-professional produced show or magazine (like Rocketboom). One quite famous videoblog of the scene just gave up: She (Schnutingers Netrzkabarett) was bashed because of acting in a commercial . However, in Germany there are rather videoblogs of prominent people than those of average citizens: like Angela Merkel's videoblog http://www.bundeskanzlerin.de/Webs/BK/De/Mediathek/Videos/videos.html (it's stiff and a kind of deadpan but unintentionally funny), the former videoblog of a famous show master (the German David Letterman: Harald Schmidt) or one blog of a German journalist: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-36686.html. Bye Jenn P.S. Irina, I'll check Geek Entertainment TV out! Thanks for it. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina irinaski@ wrote: hi jennifer i am happy to help u as well i am not like steve or jay from 2004 but i am from 2005 lol (november, honestly) we are still producing it if u can imagine still wordpress plus blip.tv i have done many shows since then and just started a new one for an online newspaper in sf. irina slutsky On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I am excited about the discussions in this community and the potential of so many people sharing thoughts about this topic! My first questions to you are: - Does someone know videoblogs founded from 2000 on (apart from Steve Garfield and Adam Kontras), English- or German-speaking ones? You should look in the archives of this group, started in 2004. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/messages/1?l=1 Here you will see how we were talking about videoblogs back then. Plenty of debates over the concept, term, and technical implementation. This is one of the frist messages of this group: (Peter and I) have had long talks about videoblogging and wanted to bring other people into the conversation. The ability to put video on blogs seems amazing to us, but there seem to be some obstacles. 1. Technically, the process takes too long.(capture, import, optimize, write some HTML, post). 2. existing servers don't allow much bandwidth and storage space. You'll either get screwed becasue too mnay people watch your posts, or you have to earse your archive video because youre out of space. 3. what is the language of videoblogging? is it little movies? or moments from your life? We believe that if we get interested people together, we'll answer all these questions. So this is the beginning. When this group started, there were only a few people who I found that were consciously posting video to blogs. Like Steve Garfield or Adrian Miles in Melbourne (http://vogmae.net.au/). Most people before 2004 seem to have posted video as an experiment as a one-off, were doing live video streaming, posted video to html pages (not blogs) so weren't easily searchable, or erased their archives. Here are some of the early folks in this group as seen from Videoblogging Week 2004. http://www.solitude.dk/archives/vog-week/ In mid 2005, Youtube beganso by 2006 there were tens of thousands of examples of videoblogs. - How do you define videoblog currently? (Mostly, I have the feeling the definition is blurred and quite a lot of different Web-TV-genres or types are subsumed under the concept of videoblog.) Ill let others jump in here. This is a well-traveled debate in this group that comes up every 6-8 months or so. By the way, I dont know many German videobloggers (maybe just Joel? http://joelart.blogspot.com/). In this group we have plenty of folks from Europe (see http://www.vlogeurope.com/) but no Germans. What's the state of videoblogging in Germany in your opinion? Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --
[videoblogging] German-speaking videoblog scene + ReRe: Hello definition of videoblog
Thanks a lot, Jay and Irina! I had checked the first 20 messages from the beginning of this group before I signed in. Really interesting, not only because it's already 5 years old. I agree, from 2005 on the Web-TV-community changes a lot because of YouTube. I divide the Web-TV-development in three parts: from 1993 until 2000 with pseudo.com, DEN and webisodes, 2000 until 2005 and the YouTube-era until today. Actually, there are not so many German-speaking vlogs. Most formats tend to a genre I call videoprogram (those I am concentrating on), they are more a semi-professional produced show or magazine (like Rocketboom). One quite famous videoblog of the scene just gave up: She (Schnutingers Netrzkabarett) was bashed because of acting in a commercial . However, in Germany there are rather videoblogs of prominent people than those of average citizens: like Angela Merkel's videoblog http://www.bundeskanzlerin.de/Webs/BK/De/Mediathek/Videos/videos.html (it's stiff and a kind of deadpan but unintentionally funny), the former videoblog of a famous show master (the German David Letterman: Harald Schmidt) or one blog of a German journalist: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-36686.html. Bye Jenn P.S. Irina, I'll check Geek Entertainment TV out! Thanks for it. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina irina...@... wrote: hi jennifer i am happy to help u as well i am not like steve or jay from 2004 but i am from 2005 lol (november, honestly) we are still producing it if u can imagine still wordpress plus blip.tv i have done many shows since then and just started a new one for an online newspaper in sf. irina slutsky On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: I am excited about the discussions in this community and the potential of so many people sharing thoughts about this topic! My first questions to you are: - Does someone know videoblogs founded from 2000 on (apart from Steve Garfield and Adam Kontras), English- or German-speaking ones? You should look in the archives of this group, started in 2004. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/messages/1?l=1 Here you will see how we were talking about videoblogs back then. Plenty of debates over the concept, term, and technical implementation. This is one of the frist messages of this group: (Peter and I) have had long talks about videoblogging and wanted to bring other people into the conversation. The ability to put video on blogs seems amazing to us, but there seem to be some obstacles. 1. Technically, the process takes too long.(capture, import, optimize, write some HTML, post). 2. existing servers don't allow much bandwidth and storage space. You'll either get screwed becasue too mnay people watch your posts, or you have to earse your archive video because youre out of space. 3. what is the language of videoblogging? is it little movies? or moments from your life? We believe that if we get interested people together, we'll answer all these questions. So this is the beginning. When this group started, there were only a few people who I found that were consciously posting video to blogs. Like Steve Garfield or Adrian Miles in Melbourne (http://vogmae.net.au/). Most people before 2004 seem to have posted video as an experiment as a one-off, were doing live video streaming, posted video to html pages (not blogs) so weren't easily searchable, or erased their archives. Here are some of the early folks in this group as seen from Videoblogging Week 2004. http://www.solitude.dk/archives/vog-week/ In mid 2005, Youtube beganso by 2006 there were tens of thousands of examples of videoblogs. - How do you define videoblog currently? (Mostly, I have the feeling the definition is blurred and quite a lot of different Web-TV-genres or types are subsumed under the concept of videoblog.) Ill let others jump in here. This is a well-traveled debate in this group that comes up every 6-8 months or so. By the way, I dont know many German videobloggers (maybe just Joel? http://joelart.blogspot.com/). In this group we have plenty of folks from Europe (see http://www.vlogeurope.com/) but no Germans. What's the state of videoblogging in Germany in your opinion? Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] German-speaking videoblog scene + ReRe: Hello definition of videoblog
I agree, from 2005 on the Web-TV-community changes a lot because of YouTube. I divide the Web-TV-development in three parts: from 1993 until 2000 with pseudo.com, DEN and webisodes, 2000 until 2005 and the YouTube-era until today. That's a good way to break it up. Pseudo and Broadcast.com were doing all kinds of online video experiments. I assume youve seen http://www.weliveinpublicthemovie.com/. It's a fun documentary about Josh Harris who really spearheaded a lot of the online video scene during the first tech boom. When I started videoblogging in 2004, I couldnt find really anyone except a couple folks who were using blogs to post video. That was my big excitement: posting video to a blog so it was easy to publish regularly...so it could take advantages of the social aspect of vlogs...and could be archived. Much of the work from 1993-2003 was often erased...or unsearchable since they were videos w/out text on html pages. Or someone would post a video, then never post again. Good news is that much of that stuff is now being re-uploaded to Youtube. I'm cc'ing Joly on this email. He may be able to share some of his experiences in NYC in the early days. Actually, there are not so many German-speaking vlogs. Most formats tend to a genre I call videoprogram (those I am concentrating on), they are more a semi-professional produced show or magazine (like Rocketboom). One quite famous videoblog of the scene just gave up: She (Schnutingers Netrzkabarett) was bashed because of acting in a commercial . However, in Germany there are rather videoblogs of prominent people than those of average citizens: like Angela Merkel's videoblog http://www.bundeskanzlerin.de/Webs/BK/De/Mediathek/Videos/videos.html (it's stiff and a kind of deadpan but unintentionally funny), the former videoblog of a famous show master (the German David Letterman: Harald Schmidt) or one blog of a German journalist: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-36686.html. Im often curious why videoblogging is more popular is some societies and not others. In Germany, is it a cultural thing not wanting to make a video about personal life? Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
