Re: [videoblogging] MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Lan Bui
That is crazy what happened.

I think it is great what you and Rick did, but we should not be held  
accountable for someone else's children. One option would be to offer  
the panic button and just bill the parents for any costs that arise  
from someone using it. That would probably never happen, but it would  
make parents pay more attention to their kids and how they act online.

A friend of mine routinely checks myspace for his kids profiles, once  
found he gets them removed. He is extreme about it because he is  
paranoid, but he could easily just monitor the content with the same  
fashion.

In the end, I think that if you go above and beyond to possibly help  
someone, that is great. But you can't save everyone, and if you  
happen not to help someone, don't lose any sleep over it; it would be  
the parents fault.


-Lan
www.LanBui.com





On Dec 18, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Zadi wrote:

Hi All,

Today I came across a teen who had written a suicide note on MySpace:

http://flickr.com/photos/karmagrrrl/326204445/? 
#comment72157594427411558

At first, I thought it was a joke - just a teen looking for attention.
But when I clicked on his profile and read some of his blog posts, I
began to realize that it may be real after all.

It turned out it was real. And he was overdosing on pills. Rick Rey, a
fellow videoblogger, called the school and the authorities handled it
from there. Just a few moments ago I received an email from one of his
friends saying the kid was alive and holding on in the hospital.

My question is... What should the protocol be in instances like these?
You see a suicide note on a social network site and you feel
completely helpless. Luckily, Rick scanned the page enough to notice
the school info, but what if there had been none?

I feel like there should be a little box on all these social networks
that say in case of fire, break glass. A red button of sorts. But is
that getting into a whole gray area?

How does one ensure that young people are physically safe? Can the
buddy system/top eight be more useful when things like this happen? Is
there an alarm?

Just thinking out loud. Thoughts?

Zadi
http://jetsetshow.com
http://zadidiaz.com






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Re: [videoblogging] MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Deirdre Straughan
On 12/19/06, Lan Bui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   That is crazy what happened.

 I think it is great what you and Rick did, but we should not be held
 accountable for someone else's children. One option would be to offer
 the panic button and just bill the parents for any costs that arise
 from someone using it. That would probably never happen, but it would
 make parents pay more attention to their kids and how they act online.










That would be great, but obviously many don't. Having a panic button
available doesn't make anyone responsible  - it just makes it possible for
someone to take useful, immediate action should the occasion arise.


A friend of mine routinely checks myspace for his kids profiles, once
 found he gets them removed. He is extreme about it because he is
 paranoid, but he could easily just monitor the content with the same
 fashion.







In fact. This is about the least useful approach he could take. Eventually
his kids will get smart enough to hide what they're doing from him, but they
won't be any smarter about how to handle any problems that might arise.
Being safe online is a skill everyone needs to develop in this day and age.
You don't suddenly become wise when you become a certain age - you gain
wisdom through experience, if someone is smart enough to let you have that
experience in a protected way. I have written about this:
http://www.beginningwithi.com/tech/kidsonline.html

In the end, I think that if you go above and beyond to possibly help
 someone, that is great. But you can't save everyone, and if you
 happen not to help someone, don't lose any sleep over it; it would be
 the parents fault.







Up to a point. I would like to believe I know everything that's going on in
my kid's life, but maybe it's best not to delude myself...

-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)


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[videoblogging] MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-18 Thread Zadi
Hi All,

Today I came across a teen who had written a suicide note on MySpace:

http://flickr.com/photos/karmagrrrl/326204445/?#comment72157594427411558


At first, I thought it was a joke - just a teen looking for attention.
But when I clicked on his profile and read some of his blog posts, I
began to realize that it may be real after all.

It turned out it was real. And he was overdosing on pills. Rick Rey, a
fellow videoblogger, called the school and the authorities handled it
from there. Just a few moments ago I received an email from one of his
friends saying the kid was alive and holding on in the hospital.

My question is... What should the protocol be in instances like these?
You see a suicide note on a social network site and you feel
completely helpless. Luckily, Rick scanned the page enough to notice
the school info, but what if there had been none? 

I feel like there should be a little box on all these social networks
that say in case of fire, break glass. A red button of sorts. But is
that getting into a whole gray area?

How does one ensure that young people are physically safe? Can the
buddy system/top eight be more useful when things like this happen? Is
there an alarm?

Just thinking out loud. Thoughts?

Zadi
http://jetsetshow.com
http://zadidiaz.com



Re: [videoblogging] MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-18 Thread CarLBanks
Wow, that is amazing.

MySpace actually saved his life in this case. I think there should be a
button on sites that you can press and have someone at the social site look
into it ASAP.

On 12/18/06, Zadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi All,

 Today I came across a teen who had written a suicide note on MySpace:

 http://flickr.com/photos/karmagrrrl/326204445/?#comment72157594427411558

 At first, I thought it was a joke - just a teen looking for attention.
 But when I clicked on his profile and read some of his blog posts, I
 began to realize that it may be real after all.

 It turned out it was real. And he was overdosing on pills. Rick Rey, a
 fellow videoblogger, called the school and the authorities handled it
 from there. Just a few moments ago I received an email from one of his
 friends saying the kid was alive and holding on in the hospital.

 My question is... What should the protocol be in instances like these?
 You see a suicide note on a social network site and you feel
 completely helpless. Luckily, Rick scanned the page enough to notice
 the school info, but what if there had been none?

 I feel like there should be a little box on all these social networks
 that say in case of fire, break glass. A red button of sorts. But is
 that getting into a whole gray area?

 How does one ensure that young people are physically safe? Can the
 buddy system/top eight be more useful when things like this happen? Is
 there an alarm?

 Just thinking out loud. Thoughts?

 Zadi
 http://jetsetshow.com
 http://zadidiaz.com

  




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http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com


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RE: [videoblogging] MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-18 Thread Robyn Tippins
Zadi, I'm so glad to hear this one ended happily.  You and Rick certainly
stepped in at the right time.  Thanks for sharing this.  

 I feel like there should be a little box on all these social networks
that say in case of fire, break glass. A red button of sorts. But is
that getting into a whole gray area?

That is a great idea.  I wonder what the negatives for that are?

Robyn

 

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Zadi
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:23 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] MySpace Suicide Note

 

Hi All,

Today I came across a teen who had written a suicide note on MySpace:

http://flickr.com/photos/karmagrrrl/326204445/?#comment72157594427411558

At first, I thought it was a joke - just a teen looking for attention.
But when I clicked on his profile and read some of his blog posts, I
began to realize that it may be real after all.

It turned out it was real. And he was overdosing on pills. Rick Rey, a
fellow videoblogger, called the school and the authorities handled it
from there. Just a few moments ago I received an email from one of his
friends saying the kid was alive and holding on in the hospital.

My question is... What should the protocol be in instances like these?
You see a suicide note on a social network site and you feel
completely helpless. Luckily, Rick scanned the page enough to notice
the school info, but what if there had been none? 

I feel like there should be a little box on all these social networks
that say in case of fire, break glass. A red button of sorts. But is
that getting into a whole gray area?

How does one ensure that young people are physically safe? Can the
buddy system/top eight be more useful when things like this happen? Is
there an alarm?

Just thinking out loud. Thoughts?

Zadi
http://jetsetshow.com
http://zadidiaz.com

 



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Re: [videoblogging] MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-18 Thread Digital Buddha
Clear and quick thinking you guys! Rick and Zadi, you ROCK.

On 12/18/06, Zadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi All,

 Today I came across a teen who had written a suicide note on MySpace:

 http://flickr.com/photos/karmagrrrl/326204445/?#comment72157594427411558

 At first, I thought it was a joke - just a teen looking for attention.
 But when I clicked on his profile and read some of his blog posts, I
 began to realize that it may be real after all.

 It turned out it was real. And he was overdosing on pills. Rick Rey, a
 fellow videoblogger, called the school and the authorities handled it
 from there. Just a few moments ago I received an email from one of his
 friends saying the kid was alive and holding on in the hospital.

 My question is... What should the protocol be in instances like these?
 You see a suicide note on a social network site and you feel
 completely helpless. Luckily, Rick scanned the page enough to notice
 the school info, but what if there had been none?

 I feel like there should be a little box on all these social networks
 that say in case of fire, break glass. A red button of sorts. But is
 that getting into a whole gray area?

 How does one ensure that young people are physically safe? Can the
 buddy system/top eight be more useful when things like this happen? Is
 there an alarm?

 Just thinking out loud. Thoughts?

 Zadi
 http://jetsetshow.com
 http://zadidiaz.com

  




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Business Development

Millions of Us
80 Liberty Ship Way, Suite #5
Sausalito, CA 94965
www.millionsofus.com

mobile: 510-684-9773
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Re: [videoblogging] MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-18 Thread Deirdre Straughan
Well done.

Re. the panic button, isn't there some sort of hotline for reporting
syspected sexual predators etc. ? That might be the fastest way to get
MySpace's attention.


On 12/19/06, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Clear and quick thinking you guys! Rick and Zadi, you ROCK.

 On 12/18/06, Zadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] karmagrrrl%40gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi All,
 
  Today I came across a teen who had written a suicide note on MySpace:
 
  
 http://flickr.com/photos/karmagrrrl/326204445/?#comment72157594427411558
 
  At first, I thought it was a joke - just a teen looking for attention.
  But when I clicked on his profile and read some of his blog posts, I
  began to realize that it may be real after all.
 
  It turned out it was real. And he was overdosing on pills. Rick Rey, a
  fellow videoblogger, called the school and the authorities handled it
  from there. Just a few moments ago I received an email from one of his
  friends saying the kid was alive and holding on in the hospital.
 
  My question is... What should the protocol be in instances like these?
  You see a suicide note on a social network site and you feel
  completely helpless. Luckily, Rick scanned the page enough to notice
  the school info, but what if there had been none?
 
  I feel like there should be a little box on all these social networks
  that say in case of fire, break glass. A red button of sorts. But is
  that getting into a whole gray area?
 
  How does one ensure that young people are physically safe? Can the
  buddy system/top eight be more useful when things like this happen? Is
  there an alarm?
 
  Just thinking out loud. Thoughts?
 
  Zadi
  http://jetsetshow.com
  http://zadidiaz.com
 
 
 

 --
 Ted Tagami
 Business Development

 Millions of Us
 80 Liberty Ship Way, Suite #5
 Sausalito, CA 94965
 www.millionsofus.com

 mobile: 510-684-9773
 fax: 415-324-5902
 skype: ted_tagami

 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  




-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)


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