[videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
Hi guys,
I've created a very simple ad for pay to play video on my site and  
I'd like to get some feedback from you all.

http://k9athlete.com/images/stories/onlinejam.jpg

Just your kneejerk reaction. Go with your gut.

What does it make you feel/think?

Could it be effective?

peace,

Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com





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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Brook Hinton
Honestly, I am totally baffled. I'm not sure what its saying. It looks two
completely random images and a topic heading.

What are you trying to say with it?


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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
I was afraid of that...

I'm trying to avoid putting a monetary value on the ad.

Online instruction is $5 per topic.

Try this...

http://k9athlete.com/images/stories/onlinejam2.jpg





Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 11, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

 Honestly, I am totally baffled. I'm not sure what its saying. It  
 looks two
 completely random images and a topic heading.

 What are you trying to say with it?

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 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I understand what you are trying to say, but not through the ad... I'd get
rid of the coke bottles; I think its what is confusing me.

Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com wrote:

   I was afraid of that...

 I'm trying to avoid putting a monetary value on the ad.

 Online instruction is $5 per topic.

 Try this...

 http://k9athlete.com/images/stories/onlinejam2.jpg


 Ron Watson
 http://k9disc.blip.tv
 http://k9disc.com
 http://discdogradio.com
 http://pawsitivevybe.com

 On Jan 11, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

  Honestly, I am totally baffled. I'm not sure what its saying. It
  looks two
  completely random images and a topic heading.
 
  What are you trying to say with it?
 
  ___
  Brook Hinton
  film/video/audio art
  www.brookhinton.com
  studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Brook Hinton
Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.

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studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of  
coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think  
twice about it.

But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques  
mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?

Doesn't make sense to me.

I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and simply -  
visually.

So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?

peace,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

 Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.

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 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Kath O'Donnell
what about something really obvious for people - text like 'your spare
change Vs my training video'

I didn't know what the coke bottles or other image were for. maybe u
need to check with the dog list who are your audience? do some market
research with them as they might make the links better?


2009/1/12 Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com:
 People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of
 coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think
 twice about it.

 But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques
 mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?

 Doesn't make sense to me.

 I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and simply -
 visually.

 So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?

 peace,

 Ron Watson
 http://k9disc.blip.tv
 http://k9disc.com
 http://discdogradio.com
 http://pawsitivevybe.com

 On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

 Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.

 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Jay dedman
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com wrote:
 People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of
 coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think
 twice about it.
 But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques
 mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?
 Doesn't make sense to me.
 I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and simply -
 visually.
 So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?

I apologize if you;ve already read the links I posted today on
Micropayments, but I think they get to the meat of the problem:
Clay Shirky in 2000:
http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2000/12/19/micropayments.html
Clay Shirky in 2003: http://www.shirky.com/writings/fame_vs_fortune.html
Scout McCloud rebuttal:
http://www.scottmccloud.com/home/essays/2003-09-micros/micros.html

Yes, people spend $10 when walking out of the house.
But there just isnt the culture of paying for each little click online.
Doesnt mean it's not possible.
You are just simply fighting the uphill battle of creating new habits.

Before the Obama campaign, giving money online was a rare habit.
He made it a normal part of the online experience.

I dont think any of us really need convincing.
Try your arguments out on your friends who arent media makers.
Take a poll on who would pay to watch your videos.
what hoops would they jump through to get to it...when there are a
billion other websites to entertain for free.

Jay

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http://ryanishungry.com
http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790


Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
 what about something really obvious for people - text like 'your spare
 change Vs my training video'

 I didn't know what the coke bottles or other image were for. maybe u
 need to check with the dog list who are your audience? do some market
 research with them as they might make the links better?

Thanks Kath, appreciate it. Better idea. Perhaps Abe Lincoln, or a  
five spot...

I know you guys don't care about dog sports, that's cool and I  
understand that, but this is not only about dog sports though.

This is about monetizing instructional video - any instructional video.

Anyway, thanks for shooting it down so quickly and deftly and for the  
positive commentary about improving it.

peace,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote:



 2009/1/12 Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com:
  People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of
  coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think
  twice about it.
 
  But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques
  mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?
 
  Doesn't make sense to me.
 
  I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and  
 simply -
  visually.
 
  So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?
 
  peace,
 
  Ron Watson
  http://k9disc.blip.tv
  http://k9disc.com
  http://discdogradio.com
  http://pawsitivevybe.com
 
  On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:
 
  Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.
 
  ___
  Brook Hinton
  film/video/audio art
  www.brookhinton.com
  studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Like I said, I understand your message (and dont think its a bad one at
all), just the coke bottles didnt work for me.
There is definitely money in online education/instruction. For video, it
will be even more so. It's a good niche to get into.

I'm just a cat person is all!

Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com wrote:

what about something really obvious for people - text like 'your spare
  change Vs my training video'
 
  I didn't know what the coke bottles or other image were for. maybe u
  need to check with the dog list who are your audience? do some market
  research with them as they might make the links better?

 Thanks Kath, appreciate it. Better idea. Perhaps Abe Lincoln, or a
 five spot...

 I know you guys don't care about dog sports, that's cool and I
 understand that, but this is not only about dog sports though.

 This is about monetizing instructional video - any instructional video.

 Anyway, thanks for shooting it down so quickly and deftly and for the
 positive commentary about improving it.

 peace,
 Ron Watson
 http://k9disc.blip.tv
 http://k9disc.com
 http://discdogradio.com
 http://pawsitivevybe.com

 On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote:

 
 
  2009/1/12 Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com k9disc%40mac.com:
   People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of
   coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think
   twice about it.
  
   But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques
   mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?
  
   Doesn't make sense to me.
  
   I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and
  simply -
   visually.
  
   So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?
  
   peace,
  
   Ron Watson
   http://k9disc.blip.tv
   http://k9disc.com
   http://discdogradio.com
   http://pawsitivevybe.com
  
   On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:
  
   Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.
  
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   Brook Hinton
   film/video/audio art
   www.brookhinton.com
   studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
  
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