[videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real professionals. I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about their rendering time problems, etc. They announced they would have AVID for Macs available by the end of 2005. LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid training class around 1991. Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid recently. The film editor Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now, The Godfather II, The Conversation, The Engligh Patient, etc.) has been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on Cold Mountain. -- Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media They have a free version for Mac and PC: http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about. Avid knows what blogging is about. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
Speaking of Walter Murch, if you have not yet read his book *In the Blink Of An Eye*... On Dec 7, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Enric wrote: 1991. Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid recently. The film editor Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now, The Godfather II, The Conversation, The Engligh Patient, etc.) has been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on Cold Mountain. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
I see, interesting. That may give some insight into the competition between Avid and Final Cut Pro. ;), Enric = http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC because money had poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft) to have them produce programs for three years before updating their Mac programs. He said that he had been forced out of using Mac because of this. He says that because of this money-lobbying, AVID for Macs will always be three years behind, that Mac users will always be playing catch-up. At the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those present and about 40% were still using Macs. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Enric To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real professionals. I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about their rendering time problems, etc. They announced they would have AVID for Macs available by the end of 2005. LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid training class around 1991. Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid recently. The film editor Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now, The Godfather II, The Conversation, The Engligh Patient, etc.) has been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on Cold Mountain. -- Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media They have a free version for Mac and PC: http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about. Avid knows what blogging is about. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
I'm not sure what that means..the only AVID tools I have experinece with are the Xpress line which, while more expensive than FInal Cut Pro or Premiere, are not the systems you were looking at. But on the low end you can get an AVID setup that competes with Final Cut Pro and is the same version as the PC based edition. I'm not personally familiar with the Symophony/Media Composer/Unity level of products, but as has been pointed out here they were originally developed exclusively for Mac and only much later came to Windows. While I suspect that FCP has stolen some of their thunder at the low end on Macs, as far as I know you can still buy all of their products for either platform. Of course- another point to make is that AVID has various products and product lines for various markets. While some film stuff has been moving to FCP, I'm not at all sure that FCP is popular in the realtime/news arena. As far as I know, Apple has no products that compete with the AVID workflow and clip archiving products for news production. -mOn 12/7/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC because money had poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft)to have them produce programs for three years before updating their Mac programs. He said that he had been forced out of using Mac because of this. He says that because of this money-lobbying, AVID for Macs will always be three years behind, that Mac users will always be playing catch-up. At the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those present and about 40% were still using Macs. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Enric To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real professionals. I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about their rendering time problems, etc. They announced they would have AVIDfor Macs available by the end of 2005.LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid training class around1991.Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avidrecently. The film editor Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now, TheGodfather II, The Conversation, The Engligh Patient, etc.) hasbeen using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 onCold Mountain. -- Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media They have a free version for Mac and PC: http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about. Avid knows what blogging is about. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- -mhttp://www.secretelite.com/michael YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
Yes, I think Final Cut Pro has emphasized the cinema film editing process. Although version 5 does have multi-camera support. ;), Enric == http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Ridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what that means..the only AVID tools I have experinece with are the Xpress line which, while more expensive than FInal Cut Pro or Premiere, are not the systems you were looking at. But on the low end you can get an AVID setup that competes with Final Cut Pro and is the same version as the PC based edition. I'm not personally familiar with the Symophony/Media Composer/Unity level of products, but as has been pointed out here they were originally developed exclusively for Mac and only much later came to Windows. While I suspect that FCP has stolen some of their thunder at the low end on Macs, as far as I know you can still buy all of their products for either platform. Of course- another point to make is that AVID has various products and product lines for various markets. While some film stuff has been moving to FCP, I'm not at all sure that FCP is popular in the realtime/news arena. As far as I know, Apple has no products that compete with the AVID workflow and clip archiving products for news production. -m On 12/7/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC because money had poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft) to have them produce programs for three years before updating their Mac programs. He said that he had been forced out of using Mac because of this. He says that because of this money-lobbying, AVID for Macs will always be three years behind, that Mac users will always be playing catch-up. At the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those present and about 40% were still using Macs. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - *From:* Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12 PM *Subject:* [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real professionals. I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about their rendering time problems, etc. They announced they would have AVID for Macs available by the end of 2005. LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid training class around 1991. Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid recently. The film editor Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now, The Godfather II, The Conversation, The Engligh Patient, etc.) has been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on Cold Mountain. -- Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media They have a free version for Mac and PC: http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about. Avid knows what blogging is about. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- -m http://www.secretelite.com/michael Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging
