[videoblogging] Re: Editing videos with more than one program

2009-08-15 Thread RatbagMedia
(1) Yes, Windows Movie Maker  Portable  is I think limited to XP and before as 
it is a revamp of an old release before Microsoft rolled back some of the 
features.

(2) I'm still experimenting by saving my videos and opening up various renders 
in different programs to see m what my options are. That I can go back and 
forth between Movie Maker and VirtualDub is important to me.As I learn my way 
through the complexities of video formats, bit rates, and the like I need to 
cover my bases via such a means.

(3)My main interest was to extend my titling options. MM Portable offers an 
extensive range of video effects but relies on the previous Titling options -- 
which are nonetheless quite useful without being snazzy. And titling, 
nonetheless, with MM is so darn easy.

(4)However, there's an interesting hack that I'm going to pursue for Movie 
Maker 
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/13/IrfanView_With_Movie_Maker.aspx
which uses a great little program -- IrfanView -- to create titles on 
successive frames.

(5)But then, one of my preferred editing programs, Ulead VideoStudio Pro , is 
being offered by Corel  for $US50 all this month which is  a bargain in any 
one's currency. `When I was using Sony Vegas I found minute clip work 
cumbersome with the program. But then for gross editing VirtualDub is so much 
faster. So I may end up teaming VirtualDub with Ulead VideoStudio Pro. I'm 
currently using their 30 day free trail. So I wonder: is there enough extra 
oomph in Ulead to warrant the money (not much) or the habituation? Unlike Sony 
Vegas, Ulead is kind to my system's resources.

(6) I also explored Cyberlink Power Director but thought that it's one 
advantage was its rendering speed -- despite its good reviews.

dave riley

 
 You can also get VirtualDub Portable 
 http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/virtualdub_portable 
 
 and Movie Maker Portable 
 http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/23092-update-portable-original-movie-maker-for-7/
  
 with 147 Transitions and 76 effects ...capturing some older features not in 
 later releases. 
 
 Handy apps for touring between PCs... 
 
 dave riley





[videoblogging] Re: Editing videos with more than one program

2009-08-13 Thread RatbagMedia
FYI

You can also get VirtualDub Portable
http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/virtualdub_portable

and Movie Maker Portable
http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/23092-update-portable-original-movie-maker-for-7/
with   147 Transitions and 76 effects ...capturing some older features not in 
later releases.

Handy apps for touring between PCs...

dave riley




Re: [videoblogging] Re: Editing videos with more than one program

2009-08-13 Thread Pat Cook
One small problem though.  It won't install on a Windows Vista machine (At 
least on mine anyways.  It's a laptop).

JFYI

Pat

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Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Editing videos with more than one program






FYI 

You can also get VirtualDub Portable 
http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/virtualdub_portable 

and Movie Maker Portable 
http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/23092-update-portable-original-movie-maker-for-7/
 
with 147 Transitions and 76 effects ...capturing some older features not in 
later releases. 

Handy apps for touring between PCs... 

dave riley 





  



[videoblogging] Re: Editing videos with more than one program

2009-08-12 Thread RatbagMedia
I should point out that I'm still experimenting.

(1)Especially if I have a lot of clips to edit down I import them into 
VirtualDub (either direct Capture using VD or by using the capture option of 
another program) and edit away by paring down the content into a single file.VD 
imports successive files by name so that it pulls in sequences like 001, 002, 
003, 004, etc and will do the same with image files.It is so fast and easy and 
you can get a precision cut so that other programs I've used seem cumbersome in 
comparison.

(2)After the edit I 'SAVE AS AVI'. 

(3) Then I open up the same file in Movie Maker or Sony Vegas and proceed to 
add titles, trim, make a few cuts and add transitions.

(3) I then RENDER to as much quality as I can muster then compress it for the 
web  in QuickTime Pro.

I  edit my audio in Audacity. However, Virtual Dub offers audio grab just like 
SonyVegas but I need to review the literature on the DIY.

MovieMaker has very limited audio editing functionality.

While VirtualDub offers sub titling, it doesn't offer other text options nor 
the ability of importing single text images but I'm still researching that 
option and trying to find a work around.

It seems to me that after the VirtualDub edit -- I can render much faster than 
I can with SonyVegas and, because I've  concentrated all the original clips in 
the one file,I can import the video into Vegas or MovieMaker very quickly for 
another edit to add transitions, titles, etc.

I have a bookmark archive on delicious for anyone who wants to follow up on 
VirtualDub (which is a free open sourced program for Windows):
http://delicious.com/ratbagradio/virtualdub

You can also obtain a copy of the VD Manual here:
http://rapidlibrary.com/index.php?q=virtualdub+manual

What I'm interested in, and someone may have suggestions, is to be able to 
create titles on video clips separate from this protocol and import those into 
the edit. That way I only need to  use VirtualDub. The issue is saving to the 
same format and while VD can handle many formats it can only handle  one format 
at a time I find.

 Text on stills is easy -- but for various video text options and effects I 
have to depend on Vegas on MovieMaker(and MM is my favorite tool box in that 
regard -- although I loved the offerings from Pinnacle when I was using it). 
Technically you can do this with Virtual Dub too but you have to lay down the 
text frame by frame -- and that's a bit time consuming.

Of course if you are animating...

dave riley