[videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Holy shit. You've actually convinced me. Thanks. Smart reply. And I love your stuff. I don't watch it enough. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ractalfece [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote: I saw you got featured. Brilliant. Congrats. But I also saw that hundreds of Youtube types didn't get your schtick at all and wrote the usual stream of hate that they write to pretty much any creator with a brain who gets featured. Your average rating was 2 stars. I found that very depressing. Didn't you? Thanks Rupert. Naw, 2 stars doesn't depress me. I used to do poetry slams. You know, where the members of the audience have score boards and you get up there and read your precious poetry. And then you get the brutal truth. People hate it or love it. It's natural. That's what this niche stuff is about. Getting the YouTube feature is like performing at a stadium filled with idiots. It's a painful experience. But out of all those idiots there's a tiny percentage of weirdos who might be into your stuff. Continuing this analogy further, I have no desire to perform at staduims. But now that I've done it once, when I show up at the coffee shops, they'll be packed. My latest video has over 4,000 hits, a 4.5 star rating and extremely supportive comments. I'm proud of this one, take a look, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B1J7oq99uQ http://www.detrimentalinformation.com/2007/11/shit_the_shoe.html Actually, I find Youtube user behaviour regularly depresses me about the future of online video. But then I'm a person who'd rather not see people antagonising each other on this list, and lots of other people think there's something revealing and interesting about that. So maybe I'm missing the whole point. Perhaps hateful Youtube users are really very fascinating and fun? It doesn't depress me. I try to imagine this anonymous crowd of hateful YouTube users. All I see is a bunch of teenagers. The future of online video? Those teenagers aren't going to be teenagers forever. It's going to mature. Might take a few more years though.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Thank you and you are correct. The bullies on youtube can destroy you. They tear apart my new channel- and I have agreed the content was to mature for youtube. We will be jumping over to blip.tv with some new material. But the flagging on that website is ridiculous. On 11/15/07, ractalfece [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone: On Nov 14, 2007 10:55 PM, Jill H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Patrick, Not to be rude, Not being rude at all BUT but you can find a TON of PARTNERS on youtube who show nudity. Ripetv, Ford Models, NoGoodTV, just to name a few. My channel was not showing any nudity, just discussing funny stories regarding nudity. Completely different. Well in this sick perverted world where people are willing to be DUMB enough to show up AT A STRANGE HOUSE (Some of 'em ALREADY NAKED BEFORE THEY EVEN REACH THE FRONT DOOR) to have sex with someone they've NEVER met except in a chat room on the Internet who claims to be an *ahem* adult - ONLY to be subjected to an interview by a journalist and humuliaton of being put on NATIONAL TV and later arrest by law enforcement, NOTHING would surprise me. I was just simply pointing out how sick perverted (And unfortunately in some cases, how hateful) some people can be towards even JUST THE TALK containing sexually-oriented content. That's all. Nothing more. Nothing less. :D So we shouldn't talk about something so fundamentally human because of a scary, tabloid television show? From what Jill is saying, sounds like YouTube's flagging system is like it's DMCA takedown system. Bullies can use it to get rid of things they don't like and the creator has no say. And that sucks. I've been on YouTube for a year now. And I've been trying to find the line. I talk graphically about sex in many of my videos. I use words like fuck and dick and pussy. A lot of my stuff is pure trash. But none of it has been taken down. In fact, I just got featured! But I've been living with the constant fear that my channel will be deleted. Well, it's not really a fear. I expect it to happen. So I've been uploading my videos to blip.tv as well. They treat you like an adult. They let you flag your own stuff.
[videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw you got featured. Brilliant. Congrats. But I also saw that hundreds of Youtube types didn't get your schtick at all and wrote the usual stream of hate that they write to pretty much any creator with a brain who gets featured. Your average rating was 2 stars. I found that very depressing. Didn't you? Thanks Rupert. Naw, 2 stars doesn't depress me. I used to do poetry slams. You know, where the members of the audience have score boards and you get up there and read your precious poetry. And then you get the brutal truth. People hate it or love it. It's natural. That's what this niche stuff is about. Getting the YouTube feature is like performing at a stadium filled with idiots. It's a painful experience. But out of all those idiots there's a tiny percentage of weirdos who might be into your stuff. Continuing this analogy further, I have no desire to perform at staduims. But now that I've done it once, when I show up at the coffee shops, they'll be packed. My latest video has over 4,000 hits, a 4.5 star rating and extremely supportive comments. I'm proud of this one, take a look, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B1J7oq99uQ http://www.detrimentalinformation.com/2007/11/shit_the_shoe.html Actually, I find Youtube user behaviour regularly depresses me about the future of online video. But then I'm a person who'd rather not see people antagonising each other on this list, and lots of other people think there's something revealing and interesting about that. So maybe I'm missing the whole point. Perhaps hateful Youtube users are really very fascinating and fun? It doesn't depress me. I try to imagine this anonymous crowd of hateful YouTube users. All I see is a bunch of teenagers. The future of online video? Those teenagers aren't going to be teenagers forever. It's going to mature. Might take a few more years though.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Oh Ractalece.. congrats on the feature.. brad is a good guy :) yeah people are ruthless when you get a feature.. just do what makes you happy :) Jill On 11/15/07, ractalfece [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw you got featured. Brilliant. Congrats. But I also saw that hundreds of Youtube types didn't get your schtick at all and wrote the usual stream of hate that they write to pretty much any creator with a brain who gets featured. Your average rating was 2 stars. I found that very depressing. Didn't you? Thanks Rupert. Naw, 2 stars doesn't depress me. I used to do poetry slams. You know, where the members of the audience have score boards and you get up there and read your precious poetry. And then you get the brutal truth. People hate it or love it. It's natural. That's what this niche stuff is about. Getting the YouTube feature is like performing at a stadium filled with idiots. It's a painful experience. But out of all those idiots there's a tiny percentage of weirdos who might be into your stuff. Continuing this analogy further, I have no desire to perform at staduims. But now that I've done it once, when I show up at the coffee shops, they'll be packed. My latest video has over 4,000 hits, a 4.5 star rating and extremely supportive comments. I'm proud of this one, take a look, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B1J7oq99uQ http://www.detrimentalinformation.com/2007/11/shit_the_shoe.html Actually, I find Youtube user behaviour regularly depresses me about the future of online video. But then I'm a person who'd rather not see people antagonising each other on this list, and lots of other people think there's something revealing and interesting about that. So maybe I'm missing the whole point. Perhaps hateful Youtube users are really very fascinating and fun? It doesn't depress me. I try to imagine this anonymous crowd of hateful YouTube users. All I see is a bunch of teenagers. The future of online video? Those teenagers aren't going to be teenagers forever. It's going to mature. Might take a few more years though.
[videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Hey Jill, YouTube comments suck at the best of times - I can't imagine what it's like to be persistently harrassed by the same people there. The bad comments I've had there, I've blocked the users - but I imagine these guys just sign up for new accounts to persist? I wish someone would take this up with Steve Chen at the NewTeeVee Live event in the next couple of days. The hater situation needs serious addressing there, and they don't seem to care. It's the single worst thing about YouTube. Have you been in touch with YouTube support, to block your stalkers/haters and to check with them that your site won't be taken down because it doesn't violate their TC? As far as I know, especially if they're aware that there's a problem, they'll check before taking down videos that are flagged as inappropriate. And have you thought of disabling comments on YouTube and embedding your YT videos on a blog, where you can control comments and also design a great site around them? If you set up a blog on Wordpress, you can block certain IP addresses from sending comments. IP address blocks are a lot harder for people to get around than just blocking their account on YouTube - the average person can't just create another IP address the way they can create a new YouTube account. That means you can also still continue to host your videos on YouTube and keep all your subscribers - just disable all comments there and directing people in your videos to comment at your blog instead of at Youtube. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jt_hanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, My name is Jill. I am on youtube, my link is http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity. I started a new channel on youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have haters and stalkers. These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople channel and have been trying to get it shut down for inappropriate content. I am not showing nudity, but it is more of a silly talk show about stories regarding nudity- nude beach experiences, new parties... etc. If you have 5 free mins, please jump over to the channel and take a look. ( i hope none of my stalkers on this email list- if anyone wants to trade scary stalker stories i am all ears) Anyhow- are there any other video posting sites that would except this talk show? I tried contacting blip, but have not heard back from them. I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not have my channel banned, or flagged, or taken down. Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate. Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and obsessed people, but it hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be done. Thank you for listening, Jill
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Hi Rupert, I do not want to sound lame, but I am easily confused once someone mentions blocking IP addresses and RSS information. I made a video on youtube about they do not care about the community, as they never respond to my emails- which was about flagging. two hours later, they emailed me a generic response. There is nothing you can do about harassment. People are able to create an account in 5 mins. I have already sent out complaints on two separate users who would like to see me fail in life and make my video blogging experience miserable. There is one girl who's only purpose on youtube is to make hate videos about me. Someone I do not think that is fair or right? Plus she spams and harasses my friends and family members on there. I have more positive then negative influences on their, but it's the negative ones that really get to you. I would love to talk to Steve Chen, I do not think the people at youtube really understand harassment and stalkers. I had one fan fly from england to meet me. I didn't want to meet him and he got so angry that now he trolls me on youtube and any other site and makes my life miserable. That is not normal. Sorry for this long rant. I do not want to disable comments because there are a lot of great friends I have. But I am looking into posting my work vlogs on Blip.tv. If you could further explain blocking IP's that would be great... if you want to take if off this list, so no one gets annoyed, my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Jill On 11/14/07, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jill, YouTube comments suck at the best of times - I can't imagine what it's like to be persistently harrassed by the same people there. The bad comments I've had there, I've blocked the users - but I imagine these guys just sign up for new accounts to persist? I wish someone would take this up with Steve Chen at the NewTeeVee Live event in the next couple of days. The hater situation needs serious addressing there, and they don't seem to care. It's the single worst thing about YouTube. Have you been in touch with YouTube support, to block your stalkers/haters and to check with them that your site won't be taken down because it doesn't violate their TC? As far as I know, especially if they're aware that there's a problem, they'll check before taking down videos that are flagged as inappropriate. And have you thought of disabling comments on YouTube and embedding your YT videos on a blog, where you can control comments and also design a great site around them? If you set up a blog on Wordpress, you can block certain IP addresses from sending comments. IP address blocks are a lot harder for people to get around than just blocking their account on YouTube - the average person can't just create another IP address the way they can create a new YouTube account. That means you can also still continue to host your videos on YouTube and keep all your subscribers - just disable all comments there and directing people in your videos to comment at your blog instead of at Youtube. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jt_hanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, My name is Jill. I am on youtube, my link is http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity. I started a new channel on youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have haters and stalkers. These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople channel and have been trying to get it shut down for inappropriate content. I am not showing nudity, but it is more of a silly talk show about stories regarding nudity- nude beach experiences, new parties... etc. If you have 5 free mins, please jump over to the channel and take a look. ( i hope none of my stalkers on this email list- if anyone wants to trade scary stalker stories i am all ears) Anyhow- are there any other video posting sites that would except this talk show? I tried contacting blip, but have not heard back from them. I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not have my channel banned, or flagged, or taken down. Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate. Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and obsessed people, but it hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be done. Thank you for listening, Jill
[videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Hi Jill, First off, here's the link to NewTeeVee's page asking for questions for Steve Chen. http://newteevee.com/2007/11/11/questions-for-youtubes-steve-chen/ or, if that doesn't work when clicked, try this: http://tinyurl.com/2f5ry7 I was going to post it here anyway, since I'm sure other people have questions they'd like to put to him. Anyway, you don't sound lame :) I learnt it all from scratch right here, too. Having your own videoblog away from Youtube is a very simple and rewarding thing to do, particularly if you create regular content. You can copy paste your YouTube videos into your blog posts. That way you don't have to lose subscribers by leaving Youtube. And you can control comments a lot better - just disabling them on Youtube totally. Making it harder for people to harrass you. If they do follow you to your blog to harrass you, each comment they send you will come with their IP address - which is a number unique (in most cases) to their internet connection. With your own Wordpress blog, you can blacklist those specific IP addresses in your blog's simple control panel. Get a comment from a stalker, copy the IP address from their comment into your blog's IP-blocking box, and bam, their internet connection is blocked. For this reason, the best blog to use is a Wordpress blog, running the new Show In A Box theme that people on this list have created. You can download everything you need to at http://showinabox.tv/ You can find other help and advice about videoblogs at http://freevlog.org/ If this is all too complicated for you, you could try Revver as well as Blip - Revver's aim is to share advertising revenues with you. In fact, you could upload to multiple video services to see which suits you best. Others include Vimeo, Brightcove, Veoh, all of whom would be happy to have your content on there, I think. A service that a lot of people here have been talking about, that handles uploading to multiple services for you is http://tubemogul.com/ Hope this wasn't too rambly or confusing. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jill H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rupert, I do not want to sound lame, but I am easily confused once someone mentions blocking IP addresses and RSS information. I made a video on youtube about they do not care about the community, as they never respond to my emails- which was about flagging. two hours later, they emailed me a generic response. There is nothing you can do about harassment. People are able to create an account in 5 mins. I have already sent out complaints on two separate users who would like to see me fail in life and make my video blogging experience miserable. There is one girl who's only purpose on youtube is to make hate videos about me. Someone I do not think that is fair or right? Plus she spams and harasses my friends and family members on there. I have more positive then negative influences on their, but it's the negative ones that really get to you. I would love to talk to Steve Chen, I do not think the people at youtube really understand harassment and stalkers. I had one fan fly from england to meet me. I didn't want to meet him and he got so angry that now he trolls me on youtube and any other site and makes my life miserable. That is not normal. Sorry for this long rant. I do not want to disable comments because there are a lot of great friends I have. But I am looking into posting my work vlogs on Blip.tv. If you could further explain blocking IP's that would be great... if you want to take if off this list, so no one gets annoyed, my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Jill On 11/14/07, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jill, YouTube comments suck at the best of times - I can't imagine what it's like to be persistently harrassed by the same people there. The bad comments I've had there, I've blocked the users - but I imagine these guys just sign up for new accounts to persist? I wish someone would take this up with Steve Chen at the NewTeeVee Live event in the next couple of days. The hater situation needs serious addressing there, and they don't seem to care. It's the single worst thing about YouTube. Have you been in touch with YouTube support, to block your stalkers/haters and to check with them that your site won't be taken down because it doesn't violate their TC? As far as I know, especially if they're aware that there's a problem, they'll check before taking down videos that are flagged as inappropriate. And have you thought of disabling comments on YouTube and embedding your YT videos on a blog, where you can control comments and also design a great site around them? If you set up a blog on Wordpress, you can block certain IP addresses from sending comments. IP address blocks are a lot harder for people to get around than just blocking their
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
If they do follow you to your blog to harrass you, each comment they send you will come with their IP address - which is a number unique (in most cases) to their internet connection. With your own Wordpress blog, you can blacklist those specific IP addresses in your blog's simple control panel. Get a comment from a stalker, copy the IP address from their comment into your blog's IP-blocking box, and bam, their internet connection is blocked. This is an excellent idea. In addition, having the stalker's IP address is one step closer to that person's identity especially if the stalking is taken to the real world. To get those IP addresses from YouTube (if they respond to you) requires a subpoena. . . . Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.allmond.us http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog VM/F 202-478-0490 To thine own self be true. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Hi Jill, If you're interested in earning money for your videos you should try out Revver. We pair ads to your videos and split the ad revenue with you, the creator. It's a simple model, there are no strings attached, and we pay out to hundreds of creators a month - something that many sites have promised to do but quite simply haven't yet. I wasn't able to see your show because YouTube has banned your channel, but I'm sure it would be fine for Revver since it's a commentary on nudity rather than nudity for nudity's sake alone. Let me know if you have any questions about Revver, and good luck! Alex Black Community Manager, Revver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jt_hanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, My name is Jill. I am on youtube, my link is http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity. I started a new channel on youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have haters and stalkers. These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople channel and have been trying to get it shut down for inappropriate content. I am not showing nudity, but it is more of a silly talk show about stories regarding nudity- nude beach experiences, new parties... etc. If you have 5 free mins, please jump over to the channel and take a look. ( i hope none of my stalkers on this email list- if anyone wants to trade scary stalker stories i am all ears) Anyhow- are there any other video posting sites that would except this talk show? I tried contacting blip, but have not heard back from them. I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not have my channel banned, or flagged, or taken down. Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate. Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and obsessed people, but it hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be done. Thank you for listening, Jill
[videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jt_hanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, My name is Jill. I am on youtube, my link is http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity. I started a new channel on youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have haters and stalkers. These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople channel and have been trying to get it shut down for inappropriate content. I am not showing nudity, but it is more of a silly talk show about stories regarding nudity- nude beach experiences, new parties... etc. If you have 5 free mins, please jump over to the channel and take a look. ( i hope none of my stalkers on this email list- if anyone wants to trade scary stalker stories i am all ears) Anyhow- are there any other video posting sites that would except this talk show? I tried contacting blip, but have not heard back from them. Try their yahoo group = http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/blip-users/ I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not have my channel banned, or flagged, or taken down. Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate. Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and obsessed people, but it hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be done. Thank you for listening, Jill
