Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-07 Thread Jay dedman
 I guess that depends on what your goal is with your video blog.
 - Do you just want people to see you videos?
 - Or are you trying to make a living off your videos?
 If you just want people to watch you videos, then a good strategy for
 that may very well be to push them everywhere you can. (I.e., push
 them to YouTube, Blip.tv, Revver, Veoh, DaliyMotion, etc etc.)
 But if you are trying to make a living off of your videos, then I
 question whether pushing your videos everywhere will accomplish that.
 When you're on someone else site, they have all the control. And you
 can only do what they allow you to do. (And they can change their
 mind at any time.)
 In my judgment... having you own site on a domain that you actually
 own is the best way to go if you want to make a living off video
 blogging (in most cases). And do what you can to get people to come
 to your site.
 It might take a little longer to build an audience but once you
 do, they'll really be your audience (and not the audience of a video
 sharing site).

well said charles.
Epic-Fu has done an incredibly good job of getting their videos posted
to Youtube and Myspace etc.
getting promoted by these sites will get you huge views.
Zadi and Steve are so smart to also have their own website and
community site to get people to stay after someone comes from
elsewhere.

I think the kind of content you make must be considered.
Ryan and I make very niche videos at http://ryanishungry.com
(urban gardens, food hacking, raising chickens, etc)
I dont expect millions of people to watch or care.

We have the long view, and are starting to get a reputation in the
permaculture and gardening movement.
Not as many viewers, but deeper connections.
Andrew Baron taught me well: document a particular community well on a
consistent basis, and your audience will build.

Traffic Geyser (or my new service Video Plague) will only help you so much.

Jay

-- 
http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790
Professional: http://ryanishungry.com
Personal: http://momentshowing.net
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
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[videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-06 Thread adam mercado
Yeah, i'm not sure that SEO is the best way to get your videos seen  
either. When people want something, say a tent, they go to search  
engine of choice and search for 'tent'. I am not convinced that is  
the way people find their media. Typically (in my limited experience)  
they browse media site much like they channel surf on TV. I've  
certainly never gone to Google looking for experimental web video  
using found footage and electronic music Know what I mean...

So it would be my assumption that getting your media spread wide  
across the web with hooks and lines back to your site and the  
original media would be the best policy of getting 'seen'. I'm  
considering dumping everything I have created up on YouTube for this  
very reason, it just has a wealth of viewership. Eyeballs is eyeballs  
I guess


Adam Mercado
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://djelectricdaddy.blogspot.com
http://influxxmedia.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx
http://www.twitter.com/influxx





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Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-06 Thread Adriana Kaegi
i agree, youtube has become the worlds largest video
library so automatically viewers go there to find
video first, i think it is a must to have videos
posted there as well as other places. 
the best way to promote your videos is by sending it
to people you know, who know you, special interest
groups, friends at social networks. it may be time
consuming, but more personal and direct and free.
what do you think?
a

--- adam mercado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, i'm not sure that SEO is the best way to get
 your videos seen  
 either. When people want something, say a tent, they
 go to search  
 engine of choice and search for 'tent'. I am not
 convinced that is  
 the way people find their media. Typically (in my
 limited experience)  
 they browse media site much like they channel surf
 on TV. I've  
 certainly never gone to Google looking for
 experimental web video  
 using found footage and electronic music Know what
 I mean...
 
 So it would be my assumption that getting your media
 spread wide  
 across the web with hooks and lines back to your
 site and the  
 original media would be the best policy of getting
 'seen'. I'm  
 considering dumping everything I have created up on
 YouTube for this  
 very reason, it just has a wealth of viewership.
 Eyeballs is eyeballs  
 I guess
 
 
 Adam Mercado
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 http://djelectricdaddy.blogspot.com
 http://influxxmedia.blogspot.com
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx
 http://www.twitter.com/influxx
 
 
 
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been
 removed]
 
 



  

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RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-06 Thread Jake Ludington
 the best way to promote your videos is by sending it
 to people you know, who know you, special interest
 groups, friends at social networks. it may be time
 consuming, but more personal and direct and free.
 what do you think?

That's true up to a point. I'm acquainted with several thousand people both
in person and via email, but I'd like to think that there are many people
I've never met who might be interested in the stuff I post online. Those are
the people I really want to reach, because it's comparatively easy to get
people who are aware of me to watch something.

Jake Ludington

http://www.jakeludington.com




Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-06 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
I guess that depends on what your goal is with your video blog.

- Do you just want people to see you videos?
- Or are you trying to make a living off your videos?

If you just want people to watch you videos, then a good strategy for
that may very well be to push them everywhere you can.  (I.e., push
them to YouTube, Blip.tv, Revver, Veoh, DaliyMotion, etc etc.)

But if you are trying to make a living off of your videos, then I
question whether pushing your videos everywhere will accomplish that.

When you're on someone else site, they have all the control.  And you
can only do what they allow you to do.  (And they can change their
mind at any time.)

In my judgment... having you own site on a domain that you actually
own is the best way to go if you want to make a living off video
blogging (in most cases).  And do what you can to get people to come
to your site.

It might take a little longer to build an audience but once you
do, they'll really be your audience (and not the audience of a video
sharing site).


See ya

-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

Motorsport Videos
http://TireBiterZ.com/

Vlog Razor... Vlogging News...  http://vlograzor.com/


On Feb 6, 2008 8:05 AM, Adriana Kaegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i agree, youtube has become the worlds largest video
 library so automatically viewers go there to find
 video first, i think it is a must to have videos
 posted there as well as other places.
 the best way to promote your videos is by sending it
 to people you know, who know you, special interest
 groups, friends at social networks. it may be time
 consuming, but more personal and direct and free.
 what do you think?
 a




 --- adam mercado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yeah, i'm not sure that SEO is the best way to get
  your videos seen
  either. When people want something, say a tent, they
  go to search
  engine of choice and search for 'tent'. I am not
  convinced that is
  the way people find their media. Typically (in my
  limited experience)
  they browse media site much like they channel surf
  on TV. I've
  certainly never gone to Google looking for
  experimental web video
  using found footage and electronic music Know what
  I mean...
 
  So it would be my assumption that getting your media
  spread wide
  across the web with hooks and lines back to your
  site and the
  original media would be the best policy of getting
  'seen'. I'm
  considering dumping everything I have created up on
  YouTube for this
  very reason, it just has a wealth of viewership.
  Eyeballs is eyeballs
  I guess
 
 
  Adam Mercado
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  http://djelectricdaddy.blogspot.com
  http://influxxmedia.blogspot.com
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx
  http://www.twitter.com/influxx
 
 
 
 
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been
  removed]
 
 


[videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-05 Thread marotblat
The SEO value of TubeMogul or TrafficGeyser is that you can
IMMEDIATELY get your video ranked highly in a search, even on highly
competitive search terms.  And with many sites, you can link your
profile page and/or keywords back to your site, so you also boost your
own page.  Let's assume everyone on this list is focused on creating
great videos - more than just traffic, they want repeat viewers. 
Getting your videos to multiple sharing sites will get more first time
viewers... assuming they like what they see, you will have more repeat
viewers.  Distribution is promotion and drives more views.

Jake had a great list of tips for improving the SEO of your site. 
When you're distributing your video widely, it follows that you should
max out the keyword and description boxes for each site, have a catchy
and relevant title, and choose the appropriate category.  Most
producers will want to drive people back to their site by putting it
in the profile or description, watermarking their videos, or some
mention of their own domain in the video.

What's interesting is that when you distribute your video to multiple
sites, when you do a search that contains your title, description, or
keywords, for one video your highest result might be Dailymotion,
another video might be Metacafe, another might be YouTube... even when
your search is through Google, you can find your highest results
through other sites.

In short, using a service to distribute your videos can be a great
tool for all types of video creators.  TrafficGeyser is one, and
TubeMogul is another - the difference being that TubeMogul provides a
picture of where your views and comments are coming from after you've
published your vids to the different sites.  I'm actually interested
in hearing anyone's experience with TrafficGeyser, too.

Best,
Mark Rotblat
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.tubemogul.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Amirault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jake Ludington
 (snip)
  The big secret for video bloggers who want to rank well in Google
is you
  need to be willing to write text - Google is still a text based search
  engine. If you can't be bothered to write something descriptive,
you will
  languish in search engine obscurity.
 
 My experience with Google is that it does not matter what text you
have on 
 your site .. if no one is linked to your site Google will not list
your site 
 in ANY position.  The more folks who link to your site the higher
you will 
 rank.
 
 Richard Amirault
 Boston, MA, USA
 http://n1jdu.org
 http://bostonfandom.org
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ





RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Jim Kukral
Make good videos. people will watch. 

 

Use service to get people to watch your videos is the absolute wrong way
to go about it.

 

Jim Kukral

 

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:05 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

 

From what I've heard of TubeMogul, it seem like a useful
service But does TubeMogul provide SEO services?... which is
what I think John was after (when asking about trafficgeyser.com).

(My guess is he wants to get people to his site to watch his videos...
rather than pushing his videos to other sites and have people watch
them there.)

See ya

-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

Motorsport Videos
http://TireBiterZ.com/

Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/

On Feb 4, 2008 10:58 AM, marotblat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:marotblat%40yahoo.com  wrote:

 I don't have first hand experience with traffic geyser's subscription
 service, but I do know about TubeMogul's free service (I'm part of the
 founding team). We now also have a subscription service for corporate
 users.

 TubeMogul allows you to distribute to the top sites, which also gives
 you the ability to see your viewership stats across sites in one
 location. There are a bunch of new features, too, such as promotion
 of your video to social bookmarking sites and seeing all your comments
 in one place.

 Ask me if you have questions!
 Mark Rotblat
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mark%40tubemogul.com 
 http://www.tubemogul.com


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
  Have you had any experience with
 
  trafficgeyser.com
 
  It is a service with a monthly fee to get your videos at the top of
  Google results.
 
  John Leeke
  www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
 

 



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RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
Sure...because nobody ever made good videos but suffered from a lack of
promotion.

Making good videos and assuming the world will beat a path to your door is
like opening a restaurant without advertising it.  Good food or not,
nobody knows you're there.

--
Rhett.
http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime
http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime

 Make good videos. people will watch.



 Use service to get people to watch your videos is the absolute wrong
 way
 to go about it.



 Jim Kukral



 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Charles Iliya Krempeaux
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:05 PM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?



 From what I've heard of TubeMogul, it seem like a useful
 service But does TubeMogul provide SEO services?... which is
 what I think John was after (when asking about trafficgeyser.com).

 (My guess is he wants to get people to his site to watch his videos...
 rather than pushing his videos to other sites and have people watch
 them there.)

 See ya

 --
 Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
 http://ChangeLog.ca/

 Motorsport Videos
 http://TireBiterZ.com/

 Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/

 On Feb 4, 2008 10:58 AM, marotblat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:marotblat%40yahoo.com  wrote:

 I don't have first hand experience with traffic geyser's subscription
 service, but I do know about TubeMogul's free service (I'm part of the
 founding team). We now also have a subscription service for corporate
 users.

 TubeMogul allows you to distribute to the top sites, which also gives
 you the ability to see your viewership stats across sites in one
 location. There are a bunch of new features, too, such as promotion
 of your video to social bookmarking sites and seeing all your comments
 in one place.

 Ask me if you have questions!
 Mark Rotblat
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mark%40tubemogul.com
 http://www.tubemogul.com


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Have you had any experience with
 
  trafficgeyser.com
 
  It is a service with a monthly fee to get your videos at the top of
  Google results.
 
  John Leeke
  www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
 





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 Yahoo! Groups Links








RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Jim Kukral
The point I was trying to make was.

 

If you make good videos, people will watch. But yeah, you do need promotion.
However, finding a tool that will help people find your videos sounds
bit spammy and wrong.

 

Tubemogul just helps you get them up, and now gives you some extra non
spammy ways to promote them. That's good. But there are other tools and
services out that (of which I'm talking about) that assist you in getting
video views and things like that. To me that's the wrong approach. I'm sure
we all agree.

 

Jim

 

 

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of J. Rhett Aultman
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:34 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

 

Sure...because nobody ever made good videos but suffered from a lack of
promotion.

Making good videos and assuming the world will beat a path to your door is
like opening a restaurant without advertising it. Good food or not,
nobody knows you're there.

--
Rhett.
http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime
http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime

 Make good videos. people will watch.



 Use service to get people to watch your videos is the absolute wrong
 way
 to go about it.



 Jim Kukral



 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com ]
 On Behalf Of Charles Iliya Krempeaux
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:05 PM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com

 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?



 From what I've heard of TubeMogul, it seem like a useful
 service But does TubeMogul provide SEO services?... which is
 what I think John was after (when asking about trafficgeyser.com).

 (My guess is he wants to get people to his site to watch his videos...
 rather than pushing his videos to other sites and have people watch
 them there.)

 See ya

 --
 Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
 http://ChangeLog.ca/

 Motorsport Videos
 http://TireBiterZ.com/

 Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/

 On Feb 4, 2008 10:58 AM, marotblat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:marotblat%40yahoo.com 
 mailto:marotblat%40yahoo.com  wrote:

 I don't have first hand experience with traffic geyser's subscription
 service, but I do know about TubeMogul's free service (I'm part of the
 founding team). We now also have a subscription service for corporate
 users.

 TubeMogul allows you to distribute to the top sites, which also gives
 you the ability to see your viewership stats across sites in one
 location. There are a bunch of new features, too, such as promotion
 of your video to social bookmarking sites and seeing all your comments
 in one place.

 Ask me if you have questions!
 Mark Rotblat
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mark%40tubemogul.com
mailto:mark%40tubemogul.com
 http://www.tubemogul.com


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Have you had any experience with
 
  trafficgeyser.com
 
  It is a service with a monthly fee to get your videos at the top of
  Google results.
 
  John Leeke
  www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
 





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 Yahoo! Groups Links





 



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
I don't know.. I think making good videos is definitely
necessary... but you still need to get people to come to your site
somehow.

SEO can help get them there.  (Of course once they're there, your
_good_ videos will hopefully keep them coming back.)

Not that SEO is the only strategy for introducing your work to your
target audience but it is one of them for some people.

-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

Motorsport Videos
http://TireBiterZ.com/

Vlog Razor... Vlogging News...  http://vlograzor.com/



On Feb 4, 2008 11:10 AM, Jim Kukral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Make good videos. people will watch.

  Use service to get people to watch your videos is the absolute wrong
 way
  to go about it.

  Jim Kukral

  From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Charles Iliya Krempeaux
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:05 PM
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?


  From what I've heard of TubeMogul, it seem like a useful
  service But does TubeMogul provide SEO services?... which is
  what I think John was after (when asking about trafficgeyser.com).

  (My guess is he wants to get people to his site to watch his videos...
  rather than pushing his videos to other sites and have people watch
  them there.)

  See ya

  --
  Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
  http://ChangeLog.ca/

  Motorsport Videos
  http://TireBiterZ.com/

  Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/

  On Feb 4, 2008 10:58 AM, marotblat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:marotblat%40yahoo.com  wrote:
  
   I don't have first hand experience with traffic geyser's subscription
   service, but I do know about TubeMogul's free service (I'm part of the
   founding team). We now also have a subscription service for corporate
   users.
  
   TubeMogul allows you to distribute to the top sites, which also gives
   you the ability to see your viewership stats across sites in one
   location. There are a bunch of new features, too, such as promotion
   of your video to social bookmarking sites and seeing all your comments
   in one place.
  
   Ask me if you have questions!
   Mark Rotblat
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mark%40tubemogul.com

   http://www.tubemogul.com
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  wrote:
   
Have you had any experience with
   
trafficgeyser.com
   
It is a service with a monthly fee to get your videos at the top of
Google results.
   
John Leeke
www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
   

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
From what I've heard of TubeMogul, it seem like a useful
service But does TubeMogul provide SEO services?... which is
what I think John was after (when asking about trafficgeyser.com).

(My guess is he wants to get people to his site to watch his videos...
rather than pushing his videos to other sites and have people watch
them there.)

See ya

-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

Motorsport Videos
http://TireBiterZ.com/

Vlog Razor... Vlogging News...  http://vlograzor.com/

On Feb 4, 2008 10:58 AM, marotblat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't have first hand experience with traffic geyser's subscription
 service, but I do know about TubeMogul's free service (I'm part of the
 founding team). We now also have a subscription service for corporate
 users.

 TubeMogul allows you to distribute to the top sites, which also gives
 you the ability to see your viewership stats across sites in one
 location. There are a bunch of new features, too, such as promotion
 of your video to social bookmarking sites and seeing all your comments
 in one place.

 Ask me if you have questions!
 Mark Rotblat
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.tubemogul.com


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Have you had any experience with
 
  trafficgeyser.com
 
  It is a service with a monthly fee to get your videos at the top of
  Google results.
 
  John Leeke
  www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
 


[videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread marotblat
I don't have first hand experience with traffic geyser's subscription
service, but I do know about TubeMogul's free service (I'm part of the
founding team).  We now also have a subscription service for corporate
users.

TubeMogul allows you to distribute to the top sites, which also gives
you the ability to see your viewership stats across sites in one
location.  There are a bunch of new features, too, such as promotion
of your video to social bookmarking sites and seeing all your comments
in one place.

Ask me if you have questions!
Mark Rotblat
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.tubemogul.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you had any experience with 
 
 trafficgeyser.com
 
 It is a service with a monthly fee to get your videos at the top of
 Google results.
 
 John Leeke
 www.HistoricHomeWorks.com





RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Jake Ludington
 I don't think SEO will get you video views. but it can get people
 to your site.  (Whether they stay there or and whether they watch you
 videos is another question.)

10 ways to get more people to your show without paying anyone for SEO:

1) Be Interesting. If you're boring, no one will link to you and links still
matter.

2) The title tags on your pages should be topic relevant as should your post
title. If your post title is My Cool Show Episode #363-A, Google won't find
you.

3) Write a descriptive 200-250 words about each video you post. If there are
supporting details that should be summarized in text, summarize them.

4) Have an email list for people to subscribe to in addition to your RSS
feed. Most people still don't get RSS.

5) Embed your video on your page - don't count on people to download it -
their time is valuable and by the time the video finishes downloading, they
might have forgotten all about it.

6) Digg, Stumble, and bookmark your own stuff when appropriate. If you
wouldn't vote for your own content, why should anybody else?

7) Use descriptive tags to help search engines know what your content is
about. Your posts are only as good as their supporting metadata.

8) Post articles and/or guest blog on related topics - be an expert in your
topic area and get seen beyond your own little corner of the universe.

9) Subscribe to your video blog in every service you can find - there are
many sites that won't start tracking you unless you have subscribers.

10) Send out press releases when you do something big - especially if you
can make it an interesting story that news outlets might pick up. 

11) Get a playboy model to talk about you:
http://www.jakeludington.com/life/



Yes, this all takes work, but so does anything worth doing.

Jake Ludington

http://www.jakeludington.com




Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Richard Amirault
- Original Message - 
From: Jake Ludington
(snip)
 The big secret for video bloggers who want to rank well in Google is you
 need to be willing to write text - Google is still a text based search
 engine. If you can't be bothered to write something descriptive, you will
 languish in search engine obscurity.

My experience with Google is that it does not matter what text you have on 
your site .. if no one is linked to your site Google will not list your site 
in ANY position.  The more folks who link to your site the higher you will 
rank.

Richard Amirault
Boston, MA, USA
http://n1jdu.org
http://bostonfandom.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ 


RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Jake Ludington
 I've investigated that .. and it's beyond me .. but, currently, that
 page
 shows up on the first page of a Google search .. good enough for now.

I apologize for my post - I had the mistaken impression that you were
attempting to get more traffic.

As for not liking QuickTime - I don't really like QuickTime, but 100 million
iPod owners is a hard market to ignore.

Jake Ludington

http://www.jakeludington.com

 



Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
I don't think SEO will get you video views. but it can get people
to your site.  (Whether they stay there or and whether they watch you
videos is another question.)

-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

Motorsport Videos
http://TireBiterZ.com/

Vlog Razor... Vlogging News...  http://vlograzor.com/


On Feb 4, 2008 11:41 AM, Jim Kukral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The point I was trying to make was.

  If you make good videos, people will watch. But yeah, you do need
 promotion.
  However, finding a tool that will help people find your videos sounds
  bit spammy and wrong.

  Tubemogul just helps you get them up, and now gives you some extra non
  spammy ways to promote them. That's good. But there are other tools and
  services out that (of which I'm talking about) that assist you in getting
  video views and things like that. To me that's the wrong approach. I'm sure
  we all agree.

  Jim


  From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of J. Rhett Aultman
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:34 PM
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?


  Sure...because nobody ever made good videos but suffered from a lack of
  promotion.

  Making good videos and assuming the world will beat a path to your door is
  like opening a restaurant without advertising it. Good food or not,
  nobody knows you're there.

  --
  Rhett.
  http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime
  http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime

   Make good videos. people will watch.
  
  
  
   Use service to get people to watch your videos is the absolute wrong
   way
   to go about it.
  
  
  
   Jim Kukral
  
  
  
   From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com ]

   On Behalf Of Charles Iliya Krempeaux
   Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:05 PM
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com



   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?
  
  
  
   From what I've heard of TubeMogul, it seem like a useful
   service But does TubeMogul provide SEO services?... which is
   what I think John was after (when asking about trafficgeyser.com).
  
   (My guess is he wants to get people to his site to watch his videos...
   rather than pushing his videos to other sites and have people watch
   them there.)
  
   See ya
  
   --
   Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
   http://ChangeLog.ca/
  
   Motorsport Videos
   http://TireBiterZ.com/
  
   Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/
  
   On Feb 4, 2008 10:58 AM, marotblat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:marotblat%40yahoo.com
   mailto:marotblat%40yahoo.com  wrote:
  
   I don't have first hand experience with traffic geyser's subscription
   service, but I do know about TubeMogul's free service (I'm part of the
   founding team). We now also have a subscription service for corporate
   users.
  
   TubeMogul allows you to distribute to the top sites, which also gives
   you the ability to see your viewership stats across sites in one
   location. There are a bunch of new features, too, such as promotion
   of your video to social bookmarking sites and seeing all your comments
   in one place.
  
   Ask me if you have questions!
   Mark Rotblat
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mark%40tubemogul.com
  mailto:mark%40tubemogul.com
   http://www.tubemogul.com
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
   mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
Have you had any experience with
   
trafficgeyser.com
   
It is a service with a monthly fee to get your videos at the top of
Google results.
   
John Leeke
www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
   


Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Richard Amirault
- Original Message - 
From: Jake Ludington

 Not to pick on you, but both of those sites are horrible from an SEO
 perspective. :)

You lost me with SEO

 Each of those video posts you have should live on an individual page, with
 an appropriate title. For instance, create a separate page title Why
 Serenity was more fun than Star Wars and provide more background details
 than the one sentence description. And for the love of god offer some 
 format
 other than Real - many people still hate RealPlayer and you can't put 
 those
 videos on an iPod :)

I made the page and chose the format long before I made this available as an 
RSS feed. I chose Real Player because I host these videos on my own site and 
while I was told by my host I should be able to get 3 formats to stream .. I 
could only get two, Quicktime and Real .. for the same bandwidth Real gave a 
better picture .. so I chose Real.

Better descriptions?  Outside of quoting some of the comments / questions 
made during the video I really don't see how I could embellish the 
descriptions of these videos very much.

Yes, I know some folks have issues with Real .. by the same token some folks 
(me included) have issues with Quicktime. You can't please everyone.

 Embed the video (use Blip if you want more control) and offer a download 
 as
 a second alternative. RSS feed? Where is it? :)

Embed the video?? why?  So there is pretty picture to view before you 
start streaming? These Real Player videos are between 45 and 60 minutes long 
.. they *all* stream when clicked.

 .. more control  .. than what? I have total control as it is (as much as 
I can have without having my own personal server at my house)

RSS feed?  Its in the IE toolbar, and on the page, on the right-hand side, 
at the bottom of the main text (before the individual episodes) .. yes, it 
can done better .. but I write this page with Front Page Express myself, and 
I'm not wiz kid at html.

 You could double your traffic without even breaking a sweat.

 Oh yeah, and on my top 10 list I should have mentioned, have a sitemap and
 list it with Google Webmaster tools.


I've investigated that .. and it's beyond me .. but, currently, that page 
shows up on the first page of a Google search .. good enough for now.

Richard Amirault
Boston, MA, USA
http://n1jdu.org
http://bostonfandom.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ 


RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Jake Ludington
 My experience with Google is that it does not matter what text you have
 on
 your site .. if no one is linked to your site Google will not list your
 site
 in ANY position.  The more folks who link to your site the higher you
 will
 rank.
 
 http://n1jdu.org
 http://bostonfandom.org

Not to pick on you, but both of those sites are horrible from an SEO
perspective. :)

Each of those video posts you have should live on an individual page, with
an appropriate title. For instance, create a separate page title Why
Serenity was more fun than Star Wars and provide more background details
than the one sentence description. And for the love of god offer some format
other than Real - many people still hate RealPlayer and you can't put those
videos on an iPod :) 

Embed the video (use Blip if you want more control) and offer a download as
a second alternative. RSS feed? Where is it? :)

You could double your traffic without even breaking a sweat. 

Oh yeah, and on my top 10 list I should have mentioned, have a sitemap and
list it with Google Webmaster tools.

Jake Ludington

http://www.jakeludington.com

 



Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Richard Amirault
- Original Message - 
From: Jake Ludington
 I apologize for my post - I had the mistaken impression that you were
 attempting to get more traffic.

The original poster may have .. I was making a comment on my experience with 
Google.

To further explain:

I have a friend who I wrote a webpage for: http://halkoltinshow.com  and 
then I submitted this page to Google and various other search engines .. and 
I waited .. and waited .. for months .. with zip for results.

If I did a search for Hal Koltin Show or Hal Koltin I would get, maybe, 
3 pages of hits off Google .. and my page was not to be found anywhere.  So 
I waited and waited .. no change.

FINALLY I had someone post a link to this page on their website .. and 
within 10 days (maybe less) it showed up on a Google search .. this after it 
had been up for about six months!

Richard Amirault
Boston, MA, USA
http://n1jdu.org
http://bostonfandom.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ


Re: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
There's also the Google Sandbox...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_Effect

You're put under a waiting period before being listed.  Although
having people link to you can help you get out of the sandbox.


See ya

-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

Motorsport Videos
http://TireBiterZ.com/

Vlog Razor... Vlogging News...  http://vlograzor.com/



On Feb 4, 2008 1:29 PM, Richard Amirault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
  From: Jake Ludington
   I apologize for my post - I had the mistaken impression that you were
   attempting to get more traffic.
  
  The original poster may have .. I was making a comment on my experience
 with
  Google.

  To further explain:

  I have a friend who I wrote a webpage for: http://halkoltinshow.com and
  then I submitted this page to Google and various other search engines ..
 and
  I waited .. and waited .. for months .. with zip for results.

  If I did a search for Hal Koltin Show or Hal Koltin I would get, maybe,
  3 pages of hits off Google .. and my page was not to be found anywhere. So
  I waited and waited .. no change.

  FINALLY I had someone post a link to this page on their website .. and
  within 10 days (maybe less) it showed up on a Google search .. this after
 it
  had been up for about six months!


  Richard Amirault
  Boston, MA, USA
  http://n1jdu.org
  http://bostonfandom.org
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ
  


RE: [videoblogging] Re: TrafficGeyser.com ?

2008-02-04 Thread Jake Ludington
 To further explain:
 
 I have a friend who I wrote a webpage for: http://halkoltinshow.com
 and
 then I submitted this page to Google and various other search engines
 .. and
 I waited .. and waited .. for months .. with zip for results.

For better results in the future - the domain is actually a subdomain of
your site and reasonably unrelated - parking the domain differently might
have resulted in a different outcome. The site has 2 pages, which might
imply some passing fancy, not something authoritative that Google should
care about (and again there's almost no text on the pages for Google to
crawl). You don't have a sitemap (submitting might help but is largely
useless as stuff tends to get sandboxed). 

 FINALLY I had someone post a link to this page on their website .. and
 within 10 days (maybe less) it showed up on a Google search .. this
 after it
 had been up for about six months!

Which likely didn't hurt. Had you posted a link to it from one of your
pages, so that Google could find it, that might have helped too. ;)

Again, I offer this with every attempt to be helpful, not critical. Getting
found online isn't easy, but there are many ways to make it easier.

Jake Ludington

http://www.jakeludington.com