Re: [videoblogging] Re: Verdi vs MPAA
Copyrights aside... I think it's more important to set up some onlinefree system to contact either an individual or a company in order to facilitate the process of asking to use/sample content. Musicians,film-makers and artists should all have freely avaliable contactdetails (to themselves or an agent). If no contact details areavailable on this copyright contact network, we should not be held liable to be sued. [I _know_ this is a bold statement... but thissubject has driven me to bold beliefs].I've proposed this in the past. Would be nice, but it doesnt scale well and of course, their is zero interest/benefit from the corporate perspective. It could work in the independent creators space. i'd like to think more about it too its interesting.On 3/16/06, Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Good God, I sure hope so.It's about time we stand up for what we believe in and tell corporate c*nts who don't even care about thecontent they're protecting to shove it up their a$$.Copyrights aside... I think it's more important to set up some onlinefree system to contact either an individual or a company in order to facilitate the process of asking to use/sample content.Musicians,film-makers and artists should all have freely avaliable contactdetails (to themselves or an agent).If no contact details areavailable on this copyright contact network, we should not be held liable to be sued.[I _know_ this is a bold statement... but thissubject has driven me to bold beliefs].I love your Star Trek video, Verdi... I wish I played that when I wasa kid, unfortunately my brother and sister were much older than me and never wanted to play!Kitkahttp://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like 2006 is the year Videobloggers start to become aggressive and begin kicking some traditional media ass.;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen reallystinkyguy@ wrote:http://mnstories.com/video/rb/rb_sxsw_darknets.mov --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michael@wrote: Hey, I'm back from SXSW. The Darknets panel was a good and touched on some of the copyright issues. Personally, I think a system where something like The Grey Album is illegal, doesn't work. Now the MPAA (they had a representative on the panel) and the RIAA still look at this as theft. As long as that's the case, things are not going to change. And they certainly won't listen to me as an individual on the issue. But if people in aggregate willfully disregard these laws where they're just plain stupid, I think, they'll be forced to come up with some sort of solution. Just as background - I come at this as an artist who very much respects people's right to get paid for their work and on the other hand I also believe that by contributing to and participating in culture (popular and otherwise) you give up total control over your work. A few years ago I made a short film about my brother and I playing Star Trek as kids (here's the link all you fellow Star Trek nerds: http://www.michaelverdi.com/video/mjplaystartrek.mov). I wrote to Paramount asking for the right to use the tricorder and transporter sounds. What I got back from them was a letter explaining how I could not use (with no option to license for a fee) those sounds along with the words Spock, Enterprise or Phaser. I just think that's complete bullshit. We didn't play Star Voyages as kids or run around with Quadcorders or something. It was Star Trek. Those are my memories and this film is my way of remembering. I don't really give a shit if you've trademarked that stuff - it's part of the culture and they've benefited from that by both ripping lots of others off in the ideas behind it and in the billions of dollars they've made because of it. -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Verdi vs MPAA
It looks like 2006 is the year Videobloggers start to become aggressive and begin kicking some traditional media ass. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mnstories.com/video/rb/rb_sxsw_darknets.mov --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michael@ wrote: Hey, I'm back from SXSW. The Darknets panel was a good and touched on some of the copyright issues. Personally, I think a system where something like The Grey Album is illegal, doesn't work. Now the MPAA (they had a representative on the panel) and the RIAA still look at this as theft. As long as that's the case, things are not going to change. And they certainly won't listen to me as an individual on the issue. But if people in aggregate willfully disregard these laws where they're just plain stupid, I think, they'll be forced to come up with some sort of solution. Just as background - I come at this as an artist who very much respects people's right to get paid for their work and on the other hand I also believe that by contributing to and participating in culture (popular and otherwise) you give up total control over your work. A few years ago I made a short film about my brother and I playing Star Trek as kids (here's the link all you fellow Star Trek nerds: http://www.michaelverdi.com/video/mjplaystartrek.mov). I wrote to Paramount asking for the right to use the tricorder and transporter sounds. What I got back from them was a letter explaining how I could not use (with no option to license for a fee) those sounds along with the words Spock, Enterprise or Phaser. I just think that's complete bullshit. We didn't play Star Voyages as kids or run around with Quadcorders or something. It was Star Trek. Those are my memories and this film is my way of remembering. I don't really give a shit if you've trademarked that stuff - it's part of the culture and they've benefited from that by both ripping lots of others off in the ideas behind it and in the billions of dollars they've made because of it. -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Verdi vs MPAA
Good God, I sure hope so. It's about time we stand up for what we believe in and tell corporate c*nts who don't even care about the content they're protecting to shove it up their a$$. Copyrights aside... I think it's more important to set up some online free system to contact either an individual or a company in order to facilitate the process of asking to use/sample content. Musicians, film-makers and artists should all have freely avaliable contact details (to themselves or an agent). If no contact details are available on this copyright contact network, we should not be held liable to be sued. [I _know_ this is a bold statement... but this subject has driven me to bold beliefs]. I love your Star Trek video, Verdi... I wish I played that when I was a kid, unfortunately my brother and sister were much older than me and never wanted to play! Kitka http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like 2006 is the year Videobloggers start to become aggressive and begin kicking some traditional media ass. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen reallystinkyguy@ wrote: http://mnstories.com/video/rb/rb_sxsw_darknets.mov --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michael@ wrote: Hey, I'm back from SXSW. The Darknets panel was a good and touched on some of the copyright issues. Personally, I think a system where something like The Grey Album is illegal, doesn't work. Now the MPAA (they had a representative on the panel) and the RIAA still look at this as theft. As long as that's the case, things are not going to change. And they certainly won't listen to me as an individual on the issue. But if people in aggregate willfully disregard these laws where they're just plain stupid, I think, they'll be forced to come up with some sort of solution. Just as background - I come at this as an artist who very much respects people's right to get paid for their work and on the other hand I also believe that by contributing to and participating in culture (popular and otherwise) you give up total control over your work. A few years ago I made a short film about my brother and I playing Star Trek as kids (here's the link all you fellow Star Trek nerds: http://www.michaelverdi.com/video/mjplaystartrek.mov). I wrote to Paramount asking for the right to use the tricorder and transporter sounds. What I got back from them was a letter explaining how I could not use (with no option to license for a fee) those sounds along with the words Spock, Enterprise or Phaser. I just think that's complete bullshit. We didn't play Star Voyages as kids or run around with Quadcorders or something. It was Star Trek. Those are my memories and this film is my way of remembering. I don't really give a shit if you've trademarked that stuff - it's part of the culture and they've benefited from that by both ripping lots of others off in the ideas behind it and in the billions of dollars they've made because of it. -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Verdi vs MPAA
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:01:49 +0100, Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If no contact details are available on this copyright contact network, we should not be held liable to be sued. [I _know_ this is a bold statement... but this subject has driven me to bold beliefs]. And you will of course volunteer your time to answer requests for all the artists? -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Verdi vs MPAA
Kitka wrote: Copyrights aside... I think it's more important to set up some online free system to contact either an individual or a company in order to facilitate the process of asking to use/sample content. Musicians, film-makers and artists should all have freely avaliable contact details (to themselves or an agent). If no contact details are available on this copyright contact network, we should not be held liable to be sued. [I _know_ this is a bold statement... but this subject has driven me to bold beliefs]. At the risk of being pummelled... we have such a system: web + email + Creative Commons + other stuff We just need to get that 'other stuff' thing figured out. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Verdi vs MPAA
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kitka wrote: Copyrights aside... I think it's more important to set up some online free system to contact either an individual or a company in order to facilitate the process of asking to use/sample content. Musicians, film-makers and artists should all have freely avaliable contact details (to themselves or an agent). If no contact details are available on this copyright contact network, we should not be held liable to be sued. [I _know_ this is a bold statement... but this subject has driven me to bold beliefs]. At the risk of being pummelled... we have such a system: web + email + Creative Commons + other stuff We just need to get that 'other stuff' thing figured out. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... I do see using creative commons as an essential ingrediant with competing and succeeding to RIAA, MPAA, DRM and other restrictive methods. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
