[videoblogging] Re: Wanna Buy Revver? AND Whose got File Backups??
This is one of the reasons that I ended up posting my videos in my four blip shows. With all these startups, many of them are bound to fold. This is especially true for the 'gimmicky' sites that draw users for some particular feature as opposed to a solid business plan and hard-working, diligent people that are determined to make their company a success. Just last night, I was hanging out with Rudy Grace MissBHavens Bre etc etc etc and Jared Klett (http://blip.tv) was there as well. Sometime around or after midnight, Jared produces an actual hard drive from his coat pocket and announces his departure to return TO WORK! :O Last year, I was hanging out late night with Mike Hudack when he fielded a call about something that needed to be changed at blip, and right there on the spot, he started making moves to handle the business. Jonny Goldstein was doing his show on Operator11, when they suddenly went down for like two weeks straight! :O That meant he had to do his live show on blogtv, so now he has archives of his show on two different live services. :/ The key, like Rox said, is to have your own copies of your shows... in all of your formats, unfortunately. If some site you post to goes down, re-upload to your new home. Unfortunately, that destroys all your links to the videos in your blog, and you have to hire someone to go back through and re-link everything to the new videos. Bill Cammack http://BillCammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So time to think about backup plans. I for one am ready to pay extra for file back up services. I am not on Revver, but I am on blip, and will follow up with Mike if he doesn't chime in on this thread. We backup all our original digital media, and have backup in place on the servers we manage for the first 350+ episodes. Since then, we have hosted at blip, and I am not aware of backup service there. Aloha, Rox On Feb 6, 2008 12:47 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems pertinent to the conversation we were having in the TrafficGeyser.com ? thread... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/68599 -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ Motorsport Videos http://TireBiterZ.com/ Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/ On Feb 6, 2008 1:55 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: You know... there might be someone who for say tax purposes needs to spend $500K to get $1 Million in debt. I'm just hoping they show up soon. ;) Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV Subscribe for FREE @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes MyBlog http://1timstreet.com On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:51 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote: Curious what people on the list think about this: http://mashable.com/2008/02/06/revver-for-sale/ I'm especially talking to people like Tim Street, who has always done well with Revver's service-- how do you supplement the income that may disappear? I know you keep abreast of all the analogous services; but what happens to your audience when these folks leave? Who else around here is a Revver PowerUser? -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Wanna Buy Revver? AND Whose got File Backups??
This is exactly why we offer cross-upload to archive.org. Anyone concerned about our liquidity should make use of it. Of course, we never raised $12mm and won't be going anywhere. Justin --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am certainly not talking about backups to any sort of DVD-type external media performed by the hosting company. And yes, we have the ability to subscribe and/or download. What I am bringing up for discussion is in the genre of contingency planning. And because we as a business have managed servers for over a decade, it is something I am familiar with. 1) Some hosting companies (lower end pricing) do not provide back up services. So, if one of their servers goes bad or someone's site programming goes bad, they do not have a backup to pull from. You are basically starting over from scratch. I think someone on this list had that problem a while back?? If backup services *are* included in the hosting plan, then there is a separate and duplicate set of data that can be used to restore the said site files in question. If people are not keeping copies of the stuff they upload, and a something goes wrong and there is no backup in place, then there obviously is a problem. 2) If services like Revver that are the main repository for someone's media files go away without warning, how will people be affected? In our case, we have not been keeping local versions of all the various file formats we upload for each daily episode. So if blip were to have a major failure, we would be screwed for all episodes around #375 and forward. I'm feeling irresponsible about this! Our challenge is a bulk factor: having over 580 episodes, with an average of 2-4 file formats per episode. So Charles, for you, my question was more to discuss this in the thinking out loud mode. I would hope that your servers are running frequent backups. I would hope that if blip appeared to be heading south, we would be contacted in advance to collect (aka download) our assets. Right now we only have an FTP drop box, not 2-way FTP access, so this would be a cumbersome manual task of downloading that could take days conceivably. I don't know if there are other ideas??? I am not a server admin, just a yellow belt who gets nervous about back ups now and then. And someone who is happy to pay for value-added services. :-) I choose not to think about the URL paths that would require updating. Long live Blip! Rox On Feb 6, 2008 2:35 PM, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not just download all your videos that are on blip and toss them on a HDD and/or DVDs? if you are in the habit of downloading your own feed, you should be good to go. i dont think it would be a viable business for blip to send you drives and discs. sull On Feb 6, 2008 6:11 PM, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED]okekai%40gmail.com wrote: So time to think about backup plans. I for one am ready to pay extra for file back up services. I am not on Revver, but I am on blip, and will follow up with Mike if he doesn't chime in on this thread. We backup all our original digital media, and have backup in place on the servers we manage for the first 350+ episodes. Since then, we have hosted at blip, and I am not aware of backup service there. Aloha, Rox -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
