[videoblogging] Re: Yet another NYT article on vlogging
I think you nailed it. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am happy that My vlog was mentioned in the video Podcast article...I am happy that my picture wound up on there too...However I am not happy that my Vlog (which has around 70 videos) has been brought to the world with this phrase like a college kid in Michigan playing drunken miniature golfhttp://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/10/mini- golf_113003256933347945.html, Really? is that all my Vlog is? I would love it If when I got a mention in a international news paper that it said something like: Josh Leo's Vlog is really well done and entertaining Josh Leo is a very good story teller Josh Leo's Vlog is consistent and always fun Instead, I get lumped with all the college kids who make videos of their friends puking, crashing their bikes, shooting fireworks out of their mouths and getting drunk in front of the camera. I would like to think that what II am doing is more than just some college kid getting drunk in front of a camera. I would like to get proper representation. I know that Really I am asking for too much. I should be saying it is so sweet that they even chose to mention me an dI do feel that way, but it is my natural insecure-self that wants more...I don't expect to be lifted above everyone else and praised for some amazing feat, I just want to be mentioned without cringing...I want to be recognized as what I am...whatever that is! ok, begin the Josh you are a self-centered ass who is never satisfied with anything who should be grateful for all you have gotten so far emails flow... On 12/10/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I thought that overall that was a very good article. It has lots of good thing to say about the videoblogs (like mine :) ) it references and generally makes videoblogging sound like this new and exciting thing that's happening - which I certainly think is true. There is one subtle point that they hit on a number of times in the article that I think is off base. And the NY Times isn't the only one to this, it happens in almost every article written in the mainstream press. Some quotes from the article: What makes Rocketboom so different from most of the other video blogs, or vlogs, that have popped up in the last year or so is that the daily episodes are consistently entertaining. Many of the world's other vlogs are closer in form to diaries or home movies - with all the tedium that can imply. Most of the vlogs are quite boring So here's where I think they miss the point: The value judgement of consistently entertaining or boring is holdover from commercial TV or film where everyone's goal is to be entertaining to as many people as possible so that they can sell advertising or movie tickets to recoup the enormous costs of production and distribution. While this might still hold somehwhat true in the context of talking about Rocketboom, it's not relevant to the vast majority of videoblogs. It's personal media. For the most part videoblogs are narrowly targeted to a small audience who I'm sure finds them consistently entertaining. They are not necessarily meant to be or try to be entertaining to a general audience. And because, unlike Rocketboom, an episode really only costs $20 or more likely $2, they can afford to be specific in what audience they aim for. To be clear here, I'm not saying that I personally think that every videoblog out there is fantastic (my tastes aren't THAT eclectic). It just doesn't matter whether I think of them at all. What matters is that they can videoblog for what ever reason they choose to - to keep in touch with friends, document their lives, whatever. That in and of itself is a powerful thing. They don't have to be everything to everyone. The beauty is they can just be what they are and you can freely pick and choose the ones that seem to be made just for you. There are already enough people doing it that I have about 80 videoblogs that I personally subscribe to that create more commercial free content than I have time to watch and that I find more entertaining and informative than most TV or movies. I believe that when people learn that an alternative exists where they can create and share their own media, tell their own stories, and write the history of their own communities, the face of media will change forever. I think that blogging, podcasting and videoblogging could make that a reality in 2006. That's why I personally think, like the article says at the end, the revolution may just be vloggerized. Verdi -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://graymattergravy.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Re: Yet another NYT article on vlogging
You're correct Josh. Being a college student is not a correct representation of what your videos are. It's a generalization for the purposes of the article. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am happy that My vlog was mentioned in the video Podcast article...I am happy that my picture wound up on there too...However I am not happy that my Vlog (which has around 70 videos) has been brought to the world with this phrase like a college kid in Michigan playing drunken miniature golfhttp://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/10/mini-golf_113003256933347945.html, Really? is that all my Vlog is? I would love it If when I got a mention in a international news paper that it said something like: Josh Leo's Vlog is really well done and entertaining Josh Leo is a very good story teller Josh Leo's Vlog is consistent and always fun Instead, I get lumped with all the college kids who make videos of their friends puking, crashing their bikes, shooting fireworks out of their mouths and getting drunk in front of the camera. I would like to think that what II am doing is more than just some college kid getting drunk in front of a camera. I would like to get proper representation. I know that Really I am asking for too much. I should be saying it is so sweet that they even chose to mention me an dI do feel that way, but it is my natural insecure-self that wants more...I don't expect to be lifted above everyone else and praised for some amazing feat, I just want to be mentioned without cringing...I want to be recognized as what I am...whatever that is! ok, begin the Josh you are a self-centered ass who is never satisfied with anything who should be grateful for all you have gotten so far emails flow... On 12/10/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I thought that overall that was a very good article. It has lots of good thing to say about the videoblogs (like mine :) ) it references and generally makes videoblogging sound like this new and exciting thing that's happening - which I certainly think is true. There is one subtle point that they hit on a number of times in the article that I think is off base. And the NY Times isn't the only one to this, it happens in almost every article written in the mainstream press. Some quotes from the article: What makes Rocketboom so different from most of the other video blogs, or vlogs, that have popped up in the last year or so is that the daily episodes are consistently entertaining. Many of the world's other vlogs are closer in form to diaries or home movies - with all the tedium that can imply. Most of the vlogs are quite boring So here's where I think they miss the point: The value judgement of consistently entertaining or boring is holdover from commercial TV or film where everyone's goal is to be entertaining to as many people as possible so that they can sell advertising or movie tickets to recoup the enormous costs of production and distribution. While this might still hold somehwhat true in the context of talking about Rocketboom, it's not relevant to the vast majority of videoblogs. It's personal media. For the most part videoblogs are narrowly targeted to a small audience who I'm sure finds them consistently entertaining. They are not necessarily meant to be or try to be entertaining to a general audience. And because, unlike Rocketboom, an episode really only costs $20 or more likely $2, they can afford to be specific in what audience they aim for. To be clear here, I'm not saying that I personally think that every videoblog out there is fantastic (my tastes aren't THAT eclectic). It just doesn't matter whether I think of them at all. What matters is that they can videoblog for what ever reason they choose to - to keep in touch with friends, document their lives, whatever. That in and of itself is a powerful thing. They don't have to be everything to everyone. The beauty is they can just be what they are and you can freely pick and choose the ones that seem to be made just for you. There are already enough people doing it that I have about 80 videoblogs that I personally subscribe to that create more commercial free content than I have time to watch and that I find more entertaining and informative than most TV or movies. I believe that when people learn that an alternative exists where they can create and share their own media, tell their own stories, and write the history of their own communities, the face of media will change forever. I think that blogging, podcasting and videoblogging could make that a reality in 2006. That's why I personally think, like the article says at the end, the revolution may just be vloggerized. Verdi -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://graymattergravy.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person:
[videoblogging] Re: Yet another NYT article on vlogging
Oh, hey, don't sweat it. They have to generalise to keep things brief, and sure, they could have written about your Germany trip or mango-slicing, but they have to go for something a great number of people can relate to, and really, Putt-Putt golf and boozing are pretty much a major USA activity--particularly when they're done at the same time. New people can check out your work based on having read the article and see it's true value for themselves. People who WANT to see ...a college kid playing drunken miniature golf will see that you have more to offer and people who don't will STILL see that you have more to offer. I wouldn't really want to be known as ...the woman who films her boyfriend in a Darth Vader mask in his underwear..., but whatever! I think kudos are in order for the college kid in Michigan whether he golfs drunk or not, Bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am happy that My vlog was mentioned in the video Podcast article...I am happy that my picture wound up on there too...However I am not happy that my Vlog (which has around 70 videos) has been brought to the world with this phrase like a college kid in Michigan playing drunken miniature golfhttp://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/10/mini-golf_113003256933347945.html, Really? is that all my Vlog is? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Yet another NYT article on vlogging
Eh, when I was in the NYT, they were more exicted about some video on YouTube that consisted of still images of a one-eyed dog on a sailboat... And the video they liked of mine is where I eat Mountain Oysters for the first time. Then quoted me out of context saying, show me the money or something... In the end, it didn't really get me more eyes watching my videos... I fact, the only thing that came out of the article was the happiness in my moms eyes. I was a hit at her ceramics class. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://evilvlog.com http://bayarea.node101.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you nailed it. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am happy that My vlog was mentioned in the video Podcast article...I am happy that my picture wound up on there too...However I am not happy that my Vlog (which has around 70 videos) has been brought to the world with this phrase like a college kid in Michigan playing drunken miniature golfhttp://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/10/mini- golf_113003256933347945.html, Really? is that all my Vlog is? I would love it If when I got a mention in a international news paper that it said something like: Josh Leo's Vlog is really well done and entertaining Josh Leo is a very good story teller Josh Leo's Vlog is consistent and always fun Instead, I get lumped with all the college kids who make videos of their friends puking, crashing their bikes, shooting fireworks out of their mouths and getting drunk in front of the camera. I would like to think that what II am doing is more than just some college kid getting drunk in front of a camera. I would like to get proper representation. I know that Really I am asking for too much. I should be saying it is so sweet that they even chose to mention me an dI do feel that way, but it is my natural insecure-self that wants more...I don't expect to be lifted above everyone else and praised for some amazing feat, I just want to be mentioned without cringing...I want to be recognized as what I am...whatever that is! ok, begin the Josh you are a self-centered ass who is never satisfied with anything who should be grateful for all you have gotten so far emails flow... On 12/10/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I thought that overall that was a very good article. It has lots of good thing to say about the videoblogs (like mine :) ) it references and generally makes videoblogging sound like this new and exciting thing that's happening - which I certainly think is true. There is one subtle point that they hit on a number of times in the article that I think is off base. And the NY Times isn't the only one to this, it happens in almost every article written in the mainstream press. Some quotes from the article: What makes Rocketboom so different from most of the other video blogs, or vlogs, that have popped up in the last year or so is that the daily episodes are consistently entertaining. Many of the world's other vlogs are closer in form to diaries or home movies - with all the tedium that can imply. Most of the vlogs are quite boring So here's where I think they miss the point: The value judgement of consistently entertaining or boring is holdover from commercial TV or film where everyone's goal is to be entertaining to as many people as possible so that they can sell advertising or movie tickets to recoup the enormous costs of production and distribution. While this might still hold somehwhat true in the context of talking about Rocketboom, it's not relevant to the vast majority of videoblogs. It's personal media. For the most part videoblogs are narrowly targeted to a small audience who I'm sure finds them consistently entertaining. They are not necessarily meant to be or try to be entertaining to a general audience. And because, unlike Rocketboom, an episode really only costs $20 or more likely $2, they can afford to be specific in what audience they aim for. To be clear here, I'm not saying that I personally think that every videoblog out there is fantastic (my tastes aren't THAT eclectic). It just doesn't matter whether I think of them at all. What matters is that they can videoblog for what ever reason they choose to - to keep in touch with friends, document their lives, whatever. That in and of itself is a powerful thing. They don't have to be everything to everyone. The beauty is they can just be what they are and you can freely pick and choose the ones that seem to be made just for you. There are already enough people doing it that I have about 80 videoblogs that I personally subscribe to that create more
