Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
Title: Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use? I'm not trying to be harsh. I've looked at the freevlog stuff, in fact that's where I started. And this group is where I'd be looking for the answers, but no one seems to be able to solve this problem, neither the blip.tv people, the freevlog people, etc. I just want to know what format people are using that works for as many people as possible. thanks -d On 3/14/06 3:26 PM, cooper3acd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, you're taking a bit of a harsh line with this unsophisticated group that actually happens to have most of the pre-eminent experts (who have always proven happy to help) in the field as members. I understand your frustration, but there are no easy answers here. Flash is the closest thing to a universal format, but many higher end producers have issues with its quality, etc (I am definitely not one of these higher end producers). Next best thing is probably to produce alternate versions for mac (mov) and pc (wmv) if streaming is what you're after. There are some standard settings for both that are very stable on each respective platform. For info on the standard settings, try searching the archives in this group, visiting freevlog, or checking out http://tinyurl.com/2c9np Cheers, Rob SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
Title: Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use? So once you use Comressor to export the iPod 320x240, the you re-save it to .mov? Because the iPod settings don't allow options -d On 3/14/06 3:28 PM, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the best way I have found that makes the picture really clear is in fcp, it's called ipod(320x240), it looks great and is low in megabites. The only trouble then is you need to save it as a .mov file using quicktime pro for everyone to be able to watch it. Paul Knight On 14 Mar 2006, at 22:09, Dog-matic wrote: aren't there any more sophisticated people out there who know Final Cut and what all the technical options are in saving video files that aren't just from someone's camcorder? -d SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
Title: Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use? who's you? do you have a video server site? how do I use your player? -d On 3/14/06 4:27 PM, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We aren't even close to all, but here is what our web player works on - On Windows, all of the following browsers are supported: * Internet Explorer (5.0 and above) * Firefox (1.0 and above) * Mozilla (1.7 and above) * Netscape (8.0 and above) * Opera (8.0 and above) An on the Mac: * Safari (2.0 and above) * Firefox (1.0 and above) * Mozilla (1.7 and above) * Netscape (7.2 and above) * Opera (8.51 and above) * Camino (1.0 and above) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: missbhavens1969 wrote: If you find a way to compress to a format viewable by all people on all computers with all platforms from all browsers, please let me know about it! I was under the impression that that absolutely does not exist. ASCII text Hmmm, actually, that might not even work. :/ Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
Title: Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use? is there a tutorial on how to use flash with movies? or do you save to a flash format? do you need anything on the server side to run it? -d On 3/14/06 4:30 PM, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you find a way to compress to a format viewable by all people on all computers with all platforms from all browsers, please let me know about it! I was under the impression that that absolutely does not exist. snip Flash comes close. ducks SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
Use the open with then Quicktime Player, the use quicktime to savePaulOn 15 Mar 2006, at 08:21, Dog-matic wrote: So once you use Comressor to export the iPod 320x240, the you re-save it to .mov? Because the iPod settings don't allow options -d On 3/14/06 3:28 PM, "Paul Knight" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the best way I have found that makes the picture really clear is in fcp, it's called ipod(320x240), it looks great and is low in megabites. The only trouble then is you need to save it as a .mov file using quicktime pro for everyone to be able to watch it. Paul Knight On 14 Mar 2006, at 22:09, Dog-matic wrote: aren't there any more sophisticated people out there who know Final Cut and what all the technical options are in saving video files that aren't just from someone's camcorder? -d SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
My own answer to this question can be found at http://www.beginningwithi.com/vlog/howtovideoblog.htmlOn 3/15/06, Dog-matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not trying to be harsh. I've looked at the freevlog stuff, in fact that's where I started. And this group is where I'd be looking for the answers, but no one seems to be able to solve this problem, neither the blip.tv people, the freevlog people, etc. I just want to know what format people are using that works for as many people as possible. thanks-- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
The problem is that there is no one format that can be viewed by EVERYONE on all systems. There are a few that are more universal than others. But in choosing one, you have to decide how you expect your audience to view your material. Do you expect your viewers to only watch your videos on your blog or Web site? Do you want your viewers to be able to download the videos for later viewing? Do you want to distribute your videos via an RSS feed? Do you think a lot of your viewers will be watching on some portable device like a PSP or an iPod? Some formats can meet all these criteria for some people, others only work well in some scenarios. If you want your videos available to be viewed on an iPod choose correctly encoded MOV, or MP4 formats. If you only expect the videos to be viewed in the context of a web page Flash Video is probably the most universal format. You can distribute most formats via RSS but the most popular video RSS client is iTunes and it only plays variants of MP4 and MOVs. Fireant will play almost anything. PSPs require a different encoding of the MP4 format than iPods do. Compression is as much an art as a science. There is virtually no difference between encoding video from a consumer camera for the web as there is for a professional post production suite. When it comes to compression everyone is using the same tools for the most part-- or at least the same codecs. There are other things to keep in mind as well. If you are posting quicktime or MP4 files you need to know that IE breaks the fast start in these formats. So that Explorer viewers will likely have to wait for the entire video to download before they can watch your movie. Sometimes this wait results in viewers clicking off the page assuming that they can't view the movie for some reason. The work around is to embed the movies--and that can cause problems too if you don't do it just right. So the answer is there is no simple answer. I recommend starting with the Free Vlog compression tutorial and then use trial and error to perfect your own scheme. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dog-matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a tutorial on how to use flash with movies? or do you save to a flash format? do you need anything on the server side to run it? -d On 3/14/06 4:30 PM, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 missbhavens1969@ wrote: If you find a way to compress to a format viewable by all people on all computers with all platforms from all browsers, please let me know about it! I was under the impression that that absolutely does not exist. snip Flash comes close. ducks Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
I suggest following the video compression tutorials on http://freevlog.org in order to make a .mov file. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dog-matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really just need to compress to a format that everyone on every platform in every browser can see. Can I please get some recommendations, with as much detail as possible? All of my shows are done on Sony 150 and 250s, edited in Final Cut, NTSC, 29.97 frames per second at 48k. I just want them viewable online without having to do so much tech support for the viewers. If you guys can't help me, who can? -d On 3/13/06 4:51 PM, Dog-matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on my video blog, portlandjazzjams.blip.tv, a friend wrote this: *** Of the 6 people I've sent links to for the Fireside episode, all 6 report they can't see it, even on Macs and even after upgrading to the latest version of QT. Of my own 4 PCs, I can only see it on one. All others are audio-only, again after the lengthy process of downloading the newest QuickTime. Might I suggest using a less touchy, more standard file format, like mpg or even mov? I thought the Quicktime 7 upgrade would fix everyone, but evidently not. I'm willing to burn a special iPod Movie version for those that wind up as iTunes podcasts, and a separate version for the video blog, if that's what it takes. What are people's experiences and recommendations with this? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
Title: Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use? aren't there any more sophisticated people out there who know Final Cut and what all the technical options are in saving video files that aren't just from someone's camcorder? -d On 3/14/06 12:47 PM, Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest following the video compression tutorials on http://freevlog.org in order to make a .mov file. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dog-matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really just need to compress to a format that everyone on every platform in every browser can see. Can I please get some recommendations, with as much detail as possible? All of my shows are done on Sony 150 and 250s, edited in Final Cut, NTSC, 29.97 frames per second at 48k. I just want them viewable online without having to do so much tech support for the viewers. If you guys can't help me, who can? -d SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
Dude, you're taking a bit of a harsh line with this unsophisticated group that actually happens to have most of the pre-eminent experts (who have always proven happy to help) in the field as members. I understand your frustration, but there are no easy answers here. Flash is the closest thing to a universal format, but many higher end producers have issues with its quality, etc (I am definitely not one of these higher end producers). Next best thing is probably to produce alternate versions for mac (mov) and pc (wmv) if streaming is what you're after. There are some standard settings for both that are very stable on each respective platform. For info on the standard settings, try searching the archives in this group, visiting freevlog, or checking out http://tinyurl.com/2c9np Cheers, Rob --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dog-matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aren't there any more sophisticated people out there who know Final Cut and what all the technical options are in saving video files that aren't just from someone's camcorder? -d On 3/14/06 12:47 PM, Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest following the video compression tutorials on http://freevlog.org in order to make a .mov file. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dog-matic Dog-matic@ wrote: I really just need to compress to a format that everyone on every platform in every browser can see. Can I please get some recommendations, with as much detail as possible? All of my shows are done on Sony 150 and 250s, edited in Final Cut, NTSC, 29.97 frames per second at 48k. I just want them viewable online without having to do so much tech support for the viewers. If you guys can't help me, who can? -d Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
the best way I have found that makes the picture really clear is in fcp, it's called ipod(320x240), it looks great and is low in megabites. The only trouble then is you need to save it as a .mov file using quicktime pro for everyone to be able to watch it. Paul KnightOn 14 Mar 2006, at 22:09, Dog-matic wrote: aren't there any more sophisticated people out there who know Final Cut and what all the technical options are in saving video files that aren't just from someone's camcorder? -d On 3/14/06 12:47 PM, "Kitka" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest following the video compression tutorials on http://freevlog.org in order to make a .mov file. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dog-matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really just need to compress to a format that everyone on every platform in every browser can see. Can I please get some recommendations, with as much detail as possible? All of my shows are done on Sony 150 and 250s, edited in Final Cut, NTSC, 29.97 frames per second at 48k. I just want them viewable online without having to do so much tech support for the viewers.If you guys can't help me, who can?-d SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
If you find a way to compress to a format viewable by all people on all computers with all platforms from all browsers, please let me know about it! I was under the impression that that absolutely does not exist. However, I can tell you that I had no trouble watching your show on blip with the link you provided. This may sound stupid, but is it possible that viewers were under the impression that they were recieving audio only because the opening screen shot+voice over is lengthy? I wasn't sure there was video until I waited it out. But I could see it perfectly--no problem. Looks good. Bekah, http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dog-matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really just need to compress to a format that everyone on every platform in every browser can see. Can I please get some recommendations, with as much detail as possible? All of my shows are done on Sony 150 and 250s, edited in Final Cut, NTSC, 29.97 frames per second at 48k. I just want them viewable online without having to do so much tech support for the viewers. If you guys can't help me, who can? -d On 3/13/06 4:51 PM, Dog-matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on my video blog, portlandjazzjams.blip.tv, a friend wrote this: *** Of the 6 people I've sent links to for the Fireside episode, all 6 report they can't see it, even on Macs and even after upgrading to the latest version of QT. Of my own 4 PCs, I can only see it on one. All others are audio-only, again after the lengthy process of downloading the newest QuickTime. Might I suggest using a less touchy, more standard file format, like mpg or even mov? I thought the Quicktime 7 upgrade would fix everyone, but evidently not. I'm willing to burn a special iPod Movie version for those that wind up as iTunes podcasts, and a separate version for the video blog, if that's what it takes. What are people's experiences and recommendations with this? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
missbhavens1969 wrote: If you find a way to compress to a format viewable by all people on all computers with all platforms from all browsers, please let me know about it! I was under the impression that that absolutely does not exist. ASCII text Hmmm, actually, that might not even work. :/ Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
We aren't even close to all, but here is what our web player works on - On Windows, all of the following browsers are supported: * Internet Explorer (5.0 and above) * Firefox (1.0 and above) * Mozilla (1.7 and above) * Netscape (8.0 and above) * Opera (8.0 and above) An on the Mac: * Safari (2.0 and above) * Firefox (1.0 and above) * Mozilla (1.7 and above) * Netscape (7.2 and above) * Opera (8.51 and above) * Camino (1.0 and above) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: missbhavens1969 wrote: If you find a way to compress to a format viewable by all people on all computers with all platforms from all browsers, please let me know about it! I was under the impression that that absolutely does not exist. ASCII text Hmmm, actually, that might not even work. :/ Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you find a way to compress to a format viewable by all people on all computers with all platforms from all browsers, please let me know about it! I was under the impression that that absolutely does not exist. snip Flash comes close. ducks Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: can someone PLEASE tell me the right format to use?
Dude, this is like searching for the Holy Grail. I know others have given answers to you (and have done a good job) but let me put my pagan, base level, un-coothed two cents into the mix. If you are still reading this then there is hope so let's rock: 1. There is no standard video delivery format for all computer systems. At least not this week. Things change quickly here so I gotta watch my words carefully. The one that would come close for XP, Mac, Linux and Solaris would be .avi but the huge file size would put off 95.9% of your viewers. Next would be Flash. As mentioned before there are issues with video quality and you don't necessarily escape the file size issue. 2. At best, we consider our potential viewers and the means they connect to the Internet, their connection speed and the preferred method of delivery, i.e. on-line, download for later viewing on a computer/home dvd player or media player users. 3. We also consider the quality level of what we want to produced. Some folks just want to get it out and up, some want a smooth polish and sparkle. To each his/her/its own. But it is part of the consideration when you are producing web video. 4. Doesn't matter if you are using Windows Movie Maker 2 or FCP HD. It is the end result, does the video convey what you wanted. Yes, we want to make it easier for anybody to view stuff. Yes, we want one way for all people (speakiing only of video and not sex). Until the re-incarnated version of Edison gets to work on a universal format these are the tools we have to work with. 5. The right format is the one YOU decide based on the above factors and what you want to accomplish. I leave you to your magic, I go now to cram the National Library of Medicine classification list in my head. I have 20 minutes. Piece of cake. Gena Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
