[videoblogging] Re: elitists
The Digital Divide has long been a concern. Back when we were starting out with online video, broadband was still a rarity in the UK - most people had dial-up. But then they opened up the market to competition and now in the UK (and where I now live in rural Canada), you get the impression that almost all people who use the internet have broadband. But the OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation Development) published statistics recently for broadband in developed nations. http://tinyurl.com/oecdbroadband This puts broadband penetration at around 30% of the population of most countries. But I think that this is based on broadband subscribers per 100 inhabitants, and obviously there are more users than subscribers. The US figure is 75 million subscribers. That said, I have a friend in South Africa who says that although they supposedly have broadband, the monopoly telecom company doesn't provide speeds fast enough to watch even YouTube without waiting a long time for it to buffer. It's a good thing for us to remember. And it's not just speed that makes us elitist. Lots of people know about YouTube, but anything more complicated like having to download a new version of Flash Player or subscribing by RSS (or even by email!) is way over the head of most people I know. They just click off. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, liza jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ever consider how elite this group is? given the chosen growth pattern of broadband suppliers to feed only the rich neighborhoods and 'redline' the rest, and the tiny percentage of the world's population with access to high speed video on the net, i am not at all suprpised to learn early web based old school 'tv shows' are not pulling in the results required to support them. sent to you from my 150 year old farmhouse courtesy of my sprint aircard. but i have to go into town and steal wi-fi to view online videos.
[videoblogging] Re: elitists
elitism,on the part of this group, has nothing to do with it. i did not mean to imply a choice to be elite here. i was thinking of why advertisers are not getting their money's worth by investing in internet video. and saying it is simply because of broadband being offered only to the elite. i would like to participate in the vlogging month by any name, but it will take all my available signal to upload a daily clip. so i have to choose to produce or consume - can't do both. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:43 AM, liza jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ever consider how elite this group is? given the chosen growth pattern of broadband suppliers to feed only the rich neighborhoods and 'redline' the rest, and the tiny percentage of the world's population with access to high speed video on the net, i am not at all suprpised to learn early web based old school 'tv shows' are not pulling in the results required to support them. sent to you from my 150 year old farmhouse courtesy of my sprint aircard. but i have to go into town and steal wi-fi to view online videos. I dont see how elitism has anything to do with it. we've always talked about the edges on this list. But I agree that US broadband providers are creating non-broadband ghettos. I live in an area where Comcast and the phone company wont connect us because there arent enough of us. So we're on satellite internet which is fast, but limits our home to 300mb traffic per day. We dont watch 50mb videos at home. we take part in our local county meetings though. there's a movement to get broadband connection because even grandmas are realizing that they are missing things when on dialup. people got to push. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
[videoblogging] Re: elitists
here in flat michigan, with a nuclear power plant to the north wreaking havoc on signals with all the high voltage transmission lines, and the highest point in the county being my next door neighbor to the south blocking the signals from outer space, i am just happy that the leaves are falling off the trees and my signal strength occasionally hits 60%. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lil Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:43 AM, liza jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sent to you from my 150 year old farmhouse courtesy of my sprint aircard. but i have to go into town and steal wi-fi to view online videos. LOL. I installed a Hughes.net dish at the barn for hi speed wireless there. They serve rural areas.
[videoblogging] Re: elitists
Ouch, I'm getting whacked in the head because I have leftist leanings. Bam, I'm getting whacked again because I work for a living and have DSL. Oy, I believe there is room in the spectrum for the profane and the profound. Gadzooks, I'm African-American which invalidates everything else and what am I doing on a computer anyway? G. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, liza jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ever consider how elite this group is? given the chosen growth pattern of broadband suppliers to feed only the rich neighborhoods and 'redline' the rest, and the tiny percentage of the world's population with access to high speed video on the net, i am not at all suprpised to learn early web based old school 'tv shows' are not pulling in the results required to support them. sent to you from my 150 year old farmhouse courtesy of my sprint aircard. but i have to go into town and steal wi-fi to view online videos.
[videoblogging] Re: elitists
oops - i used a loaded word. Gena, no offense intended. please consider forgiving me. my post was my response to what struck me as bewilderment by some posters in the Rev3 string that a webcast tv show dependent on advertising dollars would fail to turn a profit for its investors who hope for broadcast tv style bang for their buck. i had the same misunderstanding with my local library which insisted on designing moving graphics into their new website which prevents my good friends next door with a dial up connection from accessing the site. works fine here at the library they said. who cares if you can't get it out in the country, even if half our tax paying supporters live there . . . --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ouch, I'm getting whacked in the head because I have leftist leanings. Bam, I'm getting whacked again because I work for a living and have DSL. Oy, I believe there is room in the spectrum for the profane and the profound. Gadzooks, I'm African-American which invalidates everything else and what am I doing on a computer anyway? G. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, liza jean daredoll@ wrote: ever consider how elite this group is? given the chosen growth pattern of broadband suppliers to feed only the rich neighborhoods and 'redline' the rest, and the tiny percentage of the world's population with access to high speed video on the net, i am not at all suprpised to learn early web based old school 'tv shows' are not pulling in the results required to support them. sent to you from my 150 year old farmhouse courtesy of my sprint aircard. but i have to go into town and steal wi-fi to view online videos.
[videoblogging] Re: elitists, houndawgs and the next wave
No worries. I've been dealing with political posts and I'm a little touchy. I do understand about bureaucratic stupidity. I can't tell you the number of web sites I visit to investigate or write about them that are inaccessible, even with DSL. There is a spectrum of users here. From tore down broke who do vlog on 56k to those that have new shiny toys. We got MoonBats and WingNuts and there are a few I'm not sure take corporeal form. I will say the the lemming come lately television networks and advertisers have currently co-opted the term web video. Part of what we started to do years ago was to educate folks on what was possible. That education is continuing in different forms but it is continuing. It will take the lemmings more time to understand the nature of this new medium. They still think all they have to do it stick up a tv show and you are good to go. Same with the advertisers. The evolution will be streamed. Case in point, November 4th when there will be more user created content than has ever been created in one day. It already has change by the people and for the people. We just got to build more infrastructure to handle the crowd. Peace and no hard feelings, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, liza jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oops - i used a loaded word. Gena, no offense intended. please consider forgiving me. my post was my response to what struck me as bewilderment by some posters in the Rev3 string that a webcast tv show dependent on advertising dollars would fail to turn a profit for its investors who hope for broadcast tv style bang for their buck. i had the same misunderstanding with my local library which insisted on designing moving graphics into their new website which prevents my good friends next door with a dial up connection from accessing the site. works fine here at the library they said. who cares if you can't get it out in the country, even if half our tax paying supporters live there . . . --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena compumavengal@ wrote: Ouch, I'm getting whacked in the head because I have leftist leanings. Bam, I'm getting whacked again because I work for a living and have DSL. Oy, I believe there is room in the spectrum for the profane and the profound. Gadzooks, I'm African-American which invalidates everything else and what am I doing on a computer anyway? G. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, liza jean daredoll@ wrote: ever consider how elite this group is? given the chosen growth pattern of broadband suppliers to feed only the rich neighborhoods and 'redline' the rest, and the tiny percentage of the world's population with access to high speed video on the net, i am not at all suprpised to learn early web based old school 'tv shows' are not pulling in the results required to support them. sent to you from my 150 year old farmhouse courtesy of my sprint aircard. but i have to go into town and steal wi-fi to view online videos.
DVD's? (was Re: [videoblogging] Re: elitists)
i would like to participate in the vlogging month by any name, but it will take all my available signal to upload a daily clip. so i have to choose to produce or consume - can't do both. i also cannot watch every video created next month for Navlopomo because of rural bandwidth issues. Some of us have spoken about making a DVD. its a different form i know, but maybe we're good these days with playing on hard media. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
DVD's? (was Re: [videoblogging] Re: elitists)
I'm going to try to archive as much as I can by putting the Mefeedia feed into iTunes, so all Quicktime videos will be downloaded to my HDD. I'm going to put them onto DVDs - my guess is I'll get 3-4 days worth on a DVD. Canada Post is murderously slow - so it's not a next-day solution, but if anybody can't watch because they have similar download limits to Jay Ryanne and wants copies of the DVDs, email me. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would like to participate in the vlogging month by any name, but it will take all my available signal to upload a daily clip. so i have to choose to produce or consume - can't do both. i also cannot watch every video created next month for Navlopomo because of rural bandwidth issues. Some of us have spoken about making a DVD. its a different form i know, but maybe we're good these days with playing on hard media. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
