[videoblogging] Re: Quick question regarding blip pro..
Hiya, Thank you so much for your response, but wasnt quite the answer I was looking for since I plan on using that or FTP anyway =) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rambos Locker rambos_loc...@... wrote: I get faster uploads and no time outs using the Blip Upper desktop application, you can DL it from here http://blip.tv/tools/ Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Jenkins Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 1:31 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Quick question regarding blip pro.. Hi Everyone! If I upload videos on my free account and they time out on conversion, will I be able to go pro and reconvert and also convert for apple quicktime? Reason I ask is I have a number of large videos, but a slooow connection, I am wanting to pre-upload before going pro so I can get the best value out of blip without the slowness of my connection 'degrading' my subscription to blip. Thanks in advance! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
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OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC-LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
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Out of interest and in case there may be a different solution, how are you creating your mov's at the moment? using mov export from some video editing software, or using a different converter app? If so, which one version? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
I'm using the light version of Sony Vegas, it has a standard .mov export, but I have been messing with it, trying to make it Ipod compatible, guess it is not working.. ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of interest and in case there may be a different solution, how are you creating your mov's at the moment? using mov export from some video editing software, or using a different converter app? If so, which one version? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quick question
.mov export in Vegas sucks. It's not worth using at all. Pay for quicktime pro. It isn't all that expensive and it is worth it for the conversion tools. On 6/4/07, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the light version of Sony Vegas, it has a standard .mov export, but I have been messing with it, trying to make it Ipod compatible, guess it is not working.. ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of interest and in case there may be a different solution, how are you creating your mov's at the moment? using mov export from some video editing software, or using a different converter app? If so, which one version? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com -- Daniel J. Geduld Audio: http://www.everyonesvoice.com Video: http://www.flyingsquidstudios.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quick question
From what I recall ... it's not vegas' fault but Quicktime's. There is something about the Windows Quicktime API that is not exposed to windows applications (not even if you have QT Pro installed). I'm pretty sure its the AAC audio codec. Basically windows applications cant request the AAC codec be used via the QT API. You can use all sorts of other QT stuff ... but cant do ipod formatted video without QT Pro ... because on a windows box only QT pro is going to be able to access the parts of QT for Windows that allows for AAC audio compression. ... poorly described ... but the bottom line is that in windows you need QT Pro, and you have to actually use it (not some other app) to do the final compression. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
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Of course that would be the answer, Jobs and Gates never heard the song Ebony and Ivory I am guessing ;-) you know the whole part about living together in perfect harmonyok, maybe I am the only one who thought that was funny Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I recall ... it's not vegas' fault but Quicktime's. There is something about the Windows Quicktime API that is not exposed to windows applications (not even if you have QT Pro installed). I'm pretty sure its the AAC audio codec. Basically windows applications cant request the AAC codec be used via the QT API. You can use all sorts of other QT stuff ... but cant do ipod formatted video without QT Pro ... because on a windows box only QT pro is going to be able to access the parts of QT for Windows that allows for AAC audio compression. ... poorly described ... but the bottom line is that in windows you need QT Pro, and you have to actually use it (not some other app) to do the final compression. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
[videoblogging] Re: quick question
This situation means that even if buying quicktime pro, the process will be more of a pain than your current export from video editing app. Because now you will have to save your video timeline to an intermediate format, which will then be loaded into quicktime pro (or alternative) to be encoded. To get decent quality, your intermediate format needs to be high quality and bitrate, perhaps native DV format if thats what your source camera is, and so long as your video editing app doesnt take too long to export it. Its a time/filespace/quality balance as to what you use, something people dont need to worry about if the right export options are available straight from their video editing app. Also bear in mind quicktime is not the only h264 encoder available for Windows or mac, here is my assessment of pro's and cons of Quicktime versus other options: pro's: Its farily cheap Lots of people know how to use it advise if you have problems As Apple make quicktime and the ipod apple tv, we should be confident that its output will be compatible Its pretty easy to use con's: Its not free (some alternatives are free but can be harder to use) Its not the fastest If you want to make 640x480 files and your video to be encoded is interlaced, quicktime doesnt do deinterlacing and so makes a pigs ear of the results Lack of manual control over bitrate ( thus filesize) if using apple ipod tv presets I still havent found the perfect alternative h264 encoder that is free or dirt cheap for Windows, is easy to use, and accepts most formats of video, and handles de-interlacing, although Im sure such an app exists or could be made out of existing free hard to use stuff. The only alternative commercial Windows h264 encoder I hav experience with is Nero Recode 2. It may represent good value if all the other apps it comes packaged with (cd writing etc), are of use. It is faster than qucktime encoding for sure. I am not sure how up-to-date its device profiles (ipod etc) are, but it does offer a lot of encoding options, which is a good and bad thing. I cant remember wheher its intelligent when it comes to deinterlacing or not, I will use it again soon to refresh my knowledge. http://www.nero.com/nero7/enu/Nero_Recode_2.html Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course that would be the answer, Jobs and Gates never heard the song Ebony and Ivory I am guessing ;-) you know the whole part about living together in perfect harmonyok, maybe I am the only one who thought that was funny Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@ wrote: From what I recall ... it's not vegas' fault but Quicktime's. There is something about the Windows Quicktime API that is not exposed to windows applications (not even if you have QT Pro installed). I'm pretty sure its the AAC audio codec. Basically windows applications cant request the AAC codec be used via the QT API. You can use all sorts of other QT stuff ... but cant do ipod formatted video without QT Pro ... because on a windows box only QT pro is going to be able to access the parts of QT for Windows that allows for AAC audio compression. ... poorly described ... but the bottom line is that in windows you need QT Pro, and you have to actually use it (not some other app) to do the final compression. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quick question
On 6/4/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This situation means that even if buying quicktime pro, the process will be more of a pain than your current export from video editing app. That's been my experience yeah. I edit in Premier Elements and export the final product as an uncompressed AVI (usually not too painful my vlogs are all only 4-7minutes and I have a firewire drive set aside for video production). Then I load up the AVI in QT Pro and compress it down to a 3vix encoded MOV. (Then - cause I'm a geek - I add on some QT interactive stuff, but thats purely optional :P ) Then I upload it to blip! As Steve points out there are other apps out there that have some 'compress for ipod' features (and some may be free) ... but I've not tried them. Videora comes to mind. ?? I just up and got Quicktime Pro to do this last leg compression step, and so far I haven't regretted it. - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
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Aha you are using 3ivx, which is the older type mpeg4, rather than h264, but is superior in speed and quality to apples mpeg4. Certainly when it comes to mpeg4 rather than h264, theres a lot more choice of encoders editing apps that may have built in export. 3ivx on Windows may not even need quicktime pro to work, I cant remember. Its a real shame that something went odd at 3ivx and they havent released any updates or new versions for what seems to be years now. So for those still wishing to use their stuff, and create ipod apple-tv compatible mpeg4 instead of h264, its harder to recommend 3ivx than it used to be. They have also annoyed some of their users/customers by repeatedly stating release dates for the next version of 3ivx, and then failing to release at all for ages afterwards. This year, they announced 3ivx 5 in January, but it didnt materialise. Then it was about to be released in February, with the assurance that just some minor thing was preventing release. Now it June and it might come out on Tuesday apparently, but based on past history it will be a minor miracle if this happens. At this rate mpeg4 will be obsolete, totally replaced by h264, by the time they update! Bugs that have existed in Mac version since Tiger came out, are in danger of being joined by new problems when Leopard arrives! Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I load up the AVI in QT Pro and compress it down to a 3vix encoded MOV. I just up and got Quicktime Pro to do this last leg compression step, and so far I haven't regretted it. - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
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Heath, try this: http://www.ipod-video-converter.org/ Free iPod Video Converter. It exports WMV, MPEG and AVI files into iPod-compatible format, at least in theory. I installed it on my Windows machine and used it to convert a WMV, but I did not try putting the resulting file on my iPod. But I posted the file here if someone wants to try it out and let us know whether it played on an iPod: http://vlogademianervosa.blogspot.com/2007/05/free-video-converter.html I guess I don't need to know badly enough - I posted it for my students to experiment with. If anyone tests the file, please let us know. Cheryl --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, that's what I figuredguess I will have to buy Quicktime pro.more money, my wife will be thrilled ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC- LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com
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On 6/4/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So for those still wishing to use their stuff, and create ipod apple-tv compatible mpeg4 instead of h264, its harder to recommend 3ivx than it used to be. Well the issue isn't the video codec its the audio. I could select h264 if I wanted to but I still wouldnt be able to select AAC audio from the QT export options in any windows app other than QT Pro. As I understand it, the issue isn't windows or windows apps, or 3vix ... its that apple for some reason doesnt expose all the export options in the windows api (thus QT Pro is the only windows app that can use QT Export with AAC Audio). -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
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If you use quicktime and select : export for ipod, it is so simple ! then you just have to use itunes to get it on your ipod (i got tens this way) Le 4 juin 07 à 20:02, Steve Watkins a écrit : OK Itunes tells me that both the sound and video format are not AAC-LC for audio or mpeg 4 or h264 for video, but rather sorenson 3 and QDesign music 2, which the ipod doesnt support. You need to encode your vids with totally different settings to achieve ipod compatibility. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesnt seem to, it plays in itunes but itunes wont copy it to the ipod. Gotta go out now, I'll study why it doesnt work, and double-check that it doesnt, later. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Hey - I was wondering if my video's can be viewed on the Ipod. I have been ecoding them for a while as Quictime but I was not sure if it actually played on the Ipods. If someone could let me know I would apprecitate it. Thanks Heath http://batmangeek.com Gabriel Soucheyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Département Métiers du livre et éditions numériques Université Blaise Pascal 34, av Carnot BP 185 63006 Clermont-Ferrand cedex -- VIDEOFORMES vidéo et nouveaux médias dans l'art contemporain www.videoformes.com BP 50 -64, rue Lamartine 63002 CLERMONT-FERRAND Cedex 1 / France T + 33 (0) 473 17 02 17 Direction : Gabriel SOUCHEYRE + 33 (0) 612 59 27 53 Skype : callto:gabrielsoucheyre SVP / P lease : n'imprimer que si nécessaire / print only if necessary [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
