Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

[Deirdre Straughan]

The right person to interview them is Halcyon. I'll see if I can get in
touch with them, but not right away - I've been out sick for a week and
need to get back to that stuff they pay me to do.On 11/21/05, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:I want to see a videoblog interviewReporting live from Viale Abruzzi 83 20131 Milano (MI) ...
On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:> LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go> beat them up for you?>>> domain:  
videospider.it> org: BERBERA & HYDE ENTERTAINMENT Snc--Steve--Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog  - 
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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

[Randolfe Wicker]

Have they "copied" your material or have they just 
cleverly copied the link to your free video?
 
I'm glad you're raising this issue.
 
I think they might argue that they aren't charging 
people for "viewing" your vlogs.  They might argue that "The Grand Canyon 
might be free but tour guides get paid for taking people into parts of 
it".
 
I'm hoping to start  Vlog Digest as a free 
service by creating links to exceedingly fine vlogs.  If I did that and 
then later sold "paid ads" or on site advertising would you consider that 
"commercial" use of your vlogs?
 
 
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InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Steve 
  Garfield 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:26 
  AM
  Subject: [videoblogging] 
Videospider
  Have you seen videospider?<http://www.videospider.it/>I 
  wrote up a blog post about them."Sunday, November 20, 2005I've 
  requested that videospider remove my contentI just found Videospider 
  yesterday. They are charing people to view my  Creative Commons 
  licensed videos that say NO COMMERCIAL USE.I'd say that charging for 
  viewing is commerical use."<http://tinyurl.com/7nnzu><http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2005/11/ive-requested-that- 
  videospider-remove.html>My post details my research into them 
  including this from their site:"Q:Why are you charging people for 
  videos I've posted to USENET for free  
  distribution?A:We're not charging people for your videos. 
  Videospider customers are  paying for our service that formats and 
  indexes USENET binary posts to  make them easier to browse and 
  view."My emails to them were rejected.--Steve-- Home 
  Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo 
  Blog  - http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText 
  Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike 
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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

[Steve Garfield]

I want to see a videoblog interview

Reporting live from Viale Abruzzi 83 20131 Milano (MI) ...

On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:

LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go beat them up for you?


domain:  videospider.it
org: BERBERA & HYDE ENTERTAINMENT Snc

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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

[Deirdre Straughan]

Try writing to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

They seem to own the videospider.it domain, though there are no credits
on that site (as no doubt you found). If they are actually running the
site, it seems to be a departure for them - so far their other sites
all look like erotica of various sorts. They also write books. And they
most assuredly speak English, so should be able to respond to your
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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

[Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:51:06 +0100, Deirdre Straughan  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go
> beat them up for you?

Only if you videoblog it!

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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

[Deirdre Straughan]

LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go beat them up for you?domain:  videospider.itorg: BERBERA & HYDE ENTERTAINMENT Snc
descr:   Viale Abruzzi 83descr:   20131 Milano (MI)admin-c: MS6743-ITNICtech-c:  MS6743-ITNICpostmaster:  MS6743-ITNICzone-c:  MS6743-ITNICnserver: 
81.29.198.39 NS.STREAMER.NETnserver: 213.215.179.252 
NS2.STREAMER.NETmnt-by:  STREAMER-MNTcreated: 20040917expire:  20060913source:  IT-NICperson:  Massimiliano Sossellaaddress: Massimiliano Sossellaaddress: Viale Abruzzi 83
address: 20131 Milano (MI)address: ITnic-hdl: MS6743-ITNIC
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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

[Steve Garfield]

Some of the videos have a watch now button that allows you to watch the video in a flash player online. Other videos allow you to download them. They also have a page saying that you have to pay for downloads. Maybe it's all free in the Beta period. Still waiting to hear back from them.

On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:00 AM, duncan speakman wrote:

i just had a look at that site steve, they also have some of my videos up there, but i can;t see where they are charging people to watch them? I was able to download them for free?  am i missing something?

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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

[duncan speakman]

i just had a look at that site steve, they also have some of my videos
up there, but i can;t see where they are charging people to watch them?
I was able to download them for free?  am i missing something?

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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

[Michael Sullivan]

your video was made available to me without paying, and they provided more info about your vlog here:http://www.videospider.it/video/info/16157
On 11/21/05, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Have you seen videospider?I wrote up a blog post about them."Sunday, November 20, 2005I've requested that videospider remove my content
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[videoblogging] Videospider

[Steve Garfield]

Have you seen videospider?



I wrote up a blog post about them.

"Sunday, November 20, 2005
I've requested that videospider remove my content
I just found Videospider yesterday. They are charing people to view my  
Creative Commons licensed videos that say NO COMMERCIAL USE.

I'd say that charging for viewing is commerical use."




My post details my research into them including this from their site:

"Q:
Why are you charging people for videos I've posted to USENET for free  
distribution?

A:
We're not charging people for your videos. Videospider customers are  
paying for our service that formats and indexes USENET binary posts to  
make them easier to browse and view."

My emails to them were rejected.

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